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start at boot, run as non-root

2012-03-14 Thread n dhert
I have FreeBSD8.2.
Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collection
but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org.
I installed that.
To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna :
---
#!/bin/sh
#
# PROVIDE: sedna
# REQUIRE: DAEMON
# KEYWORD: shutdown
#
. /etc/rc.subr

name=sedna
rcvar=${name}_enable
command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov

load_rc_config $name

: ${sedna_enable=NO}

run_rc_command $1

and added sedna_enable=YES at the end of my /etc/rc.conf

This way it starts at boot:
$ ps -jaxww | grep se_
root7064 1  7064  70640 Is??0:00.00
/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localhost
-port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0
-stack-depth 4000
The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user
'sedna''

How can I do that?

The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start the
program run as a different user ..
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Re: start at boot, run as non-root

2012-03-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote:
 I have FreeBSD8.2.
 Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collection
 but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org.
 I installed that.
 To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna :
 ---
 #!/bin/sh
 #
 # PROVIDE: sedna
 # REQUIRE: DAEMON
 # KEYWORD: shutdown
 #
 . /etc/rc.subr
 
 name=sedna
 rcvar=${name}_enable
 command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov
 
 load_rc_config $name
 
 : ${sedna_enable=NO}
 
 run_rc_command $1
 
 and added sedna_enable=YES at the end of my /etc/rc.conf
 
 This way it starts at boot:
 $ ps -jaxww | grep se_
 root7064 1  7064  70640 Is??0:00.00
 /home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localhost
 -port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0
 -stack-depth 4000
 The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user
 'sedna''
 
 How can I do that?
 
 The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start the
 program run as a different user ..

Add a variable:

${name}_user=sedna

to the init script.  The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the
sedna process using your selected username.  There's also ${name}_group
but that works a bit differently.

I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD
upstream, but not appear in ports.  Are there some onerous license terms
or other obstacles[*]?  If not, would you consider submitting your work
as a port?

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/,
which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing
would be an obstacle.

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nVidia card manufacturer recommendations

2012-03-14 Thread Arthur Chance
Somewhere, possibly here, a while back I saw a remark that certain 
manufacturer's nVidia cards worked reliably with the nVidia supplied 
drivers and others usually have problems because they tweak nVidia's 
reference spec. Of course, I didn't bookmark it and neither Google nor 
searching the last years' worth of the freebsd-questions@ archives has 
turned it up.


Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or which I 
should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Arthur Chance

On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
Adam Vande More articulated:


Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA
server?  Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.


A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are
configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have no
idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything,
other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume
that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your
suggestion.


I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and is 
very picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user but I 
have the impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7 have 
DLNA support built in.


Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting Sony 
TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts:


http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/
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Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink.

2012-03-14 Thread Carmel
FreeBSD-8.2 STABLE

In the /var/log/messages log file, I have noticed the follow error
message:

Mar 13 07:25:01 savage pulseaudio[11763]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink 
input: too many inputs per sink.

Similar messages are dispersed throughout the log. I never noticed
these before and I do check out the messages file on a semi-regular
basis.

Is there something wrong here or can I safely disregard the message?


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Re: start at boot, run as non-root

2012-03-14 Thread Da Rock

On 03/14/12 18:12, Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote:

I have FreeBSD8.2.
Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collection
but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org.
I installed that.
To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna :
---
#!/bin/sh
#
# PROVIDE: sedna
# REQUIRE: DAEMON
# KEYWORD: shutdown
#
. /etc/rc.subr

name=sedna
rcvar=${name}_enable
command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov

load_rc_config $name

: ${sedna_enable=NO}

run_rc_command $1

and added sedna_enable=YES at the end of my /etc/rc.conf

This way it starts at boot:
$ ps -jaxww | grep se_
root7064 1  7064  70640 Is??0:00.00
/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localhost
-port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0
-stack-depth 4000
The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user
'sedna''

How can I do that?

The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start the
program run as a different user ..

Add a variable:

${name}_user=sedna

to the init script.  The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the
sedna process using your selected username.  There's also ${name}_group
but that works a bit differently.

I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD
upstream, but not appear in ports.  Are there some onerous license terms
or other obstacles[*]?  If not, would you consider submitting your work
as a port?

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/,
which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing
would be an obstacle.
That would not be the problem, as the ports system can handle more 
licenses than simply bsd compatible; Its merely recommended. To 
illustrate, there are eval and commercial products in the ports tree. 
You have to register and pay the organisation when you install and start 
using (like komodo, others). The port is to ease installation on FreeBSD 
an app that would be widely used.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Carmel
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 +
Arthur Chance articulated:

 On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
  Adam Vande More articulated:
 
  Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA
  server?  Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.
 
  A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are
  configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I
  have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure
  anything, other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so
  am I to assume that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I
  will try your suggestion.
 
 I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and
 is very picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user
 but I have the impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7
 have DLNA support built in.
 
 Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting
 Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts:
 
 http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/

I did some checking. Win7, all versions, have support built into it.
Apparently Vista and WinXP were updated with support via the Microsoft
Update system. I have to admit, that does make for a very user
friendly environment. Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite
successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs with
their home PC quite successfully and painlessly.

I am still studying how to make FreeBSD similarly user friendly.
Thanks for the link.

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Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp

2012-03-14 Thread Rick Miller
I thought I would follow up on this as a couple individuals expressed
an interest in it...

We have isolated the configuration in which this occurs under.  It
occurs during the execution of pxeboot.bs on brocade switches with
vlan tagging enabled.

We have begun to review the pxeboot.bs source code in order to get
more debug information out of it and have opened a support case with
Brocade.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Are there significant differences in the implementation between the
 tftp client in FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE and the client implementation in
 pxeboot.bs?

 I ask because I have encountered a scenario where pxeboot.bs is
 tftp'ing boot files from a PXE server and fails in random spots while
 attempting to download boot files to start a 8.2-RELEASE install.
 When we run the same sequence of tftp gets in a running 8.2-RELEASE
 instance continuously, we never received a single failure in a solid
 hour of attempts.

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Re: start at boot, run as non-root

2012-03-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/03/2012 10:29, Da Rock wrote:
 On 03/14/12 18:12, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote:
 I have FreeBSD8.2.
 Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports
 collection
 but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org.
 I installed that.
 To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna :
 ---
 #!/bin/sh
 #
 # PROVIDE: sedna
 # REQUIRE: DAEMON
 # KEYWORD: shutdown
 #
 . /etc/rc.subr

 name=sedna
 rcvar=${name}_enable
 command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov

 load_rc_config $name

 : ${sedna_enable=NO}

 run_rc_command $1
 
 and added sedna_enable=YES at the end of my /etc/rc.conf

 This way it starts at boot:
 $ ps -jaxww | grep se_
 root7064 1  7064  70640 Is??0:00.00
 /home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address
 localhost
 -port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0
 -stack-depth 4000
 The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user
 'sedna''

 How can I do that?

 The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start
 the
 program run as a different user ..
 Add a variable:

 ${name}_user=sedna

 to the init script.  The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the
 sedna process using your selected username.  There's also ${name}_group
 but that works a bit differently.

 I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD
 upstream, but not appear in ports.  Are there some onerous license terms
 or other obstacles[*]?  If not, would you consider submitting your work
 as a port?

 Cheers,

 Matthew

 [*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/,
 which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing
 would be an obstacle.

 That would not be the problem, as the ports system can handle more
 licenses than simply bsd compatible; Its merely recommended. To
 illustrate, there are eval and commercial products in the ports tree.
 You have to register and pay the organisation when you install and start
 using (like komodo, others). The port is to ease installation on FreeBSD
 an app that would be widely used.

Well, quite.  Let me rephrase the question before everyone gets
sidetracked into an interminable discussion of the horrible license
terms they've been forced to endure.

Is there any reason why sedna should not be added to the ports collection?

I'm pretty certain the answer is no but having confirmation from
someone who actually uses this software and knows a bit about it would
be good.

Having poked a bit at the sources, this looks like a pretty
straightforward application to port -- it uses cmake(1) and there's
plenty of both support for that and prior art to copy in the ports
already.  Would be a nice projectette for someone that wanted to get
into porting.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Carmel
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:45:36 +0100
Polytropon articulated:

 //* OFFLIST
 
 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400, Carmel wrote:
  Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite
  successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs
  with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly.
 
 This has changed with the upcoming version of their Windows.
 Check out this video and have a good laugh.
 
 http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8-fails-on-the-desktop-20120312/
 
 ;-)

Ah yes, your basic FUD rubbish. Win8 has not even been released. Many
of the features are still in a state of flux. Complaining about
something in an unreleased version of Windows is like complaining that
FreeBSD-10 is a failure because (you fill in the blank). When it is
released, then proper comparisons can be made.

BTW, I read on another blog by a typical MS Hater that he hated the
new interface because the mouse was no longer usable in the system. It
turns out the genius was not aware of how to enable or disable the
mouse. And yes, the idiot is a charter member of slashdot. Go
figure ...

In addition, I really do not appreciate your trolling.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:32:44 -0400, Carmel wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:45:36 +0100
 Polytropon articulated:
 
  //* OFFLIST

As you carried this on-list again, allow me to reply
in public. I do not appreciate your lack of humour
(see explaination at the end).



  On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400, Carmel wrote:
   Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite
   successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs
   with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly.
  
  This has changed with the upcoming version of their Windows.
  Check out this video and have a good laugh.
  
  http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8-fails-on-the-desktop-20120312/
  
  ;-)
 
 Ah yes, your basic FUD rubbish. Win8 has not even been released. Many
 of the features are still in a state of flux.

Your basic FUD rubbish. Specific features have been
confirmed to be in the final release. The absence
of the well-known interaction starting point is
one of them.

While I like some of Windows 8's concepts especially
for the mobile market, transitioning them 1:1 to the
desktop _and its users_ will cause trouble, as you
can see in the video.



 Complaining about
 something in an unreleased version of Windows is like complaining that
 FreeBSD-10 is a failure because (you fill in the blank). When it is
 released, then proper comparisons can be made.

We will see.

The main effect of failure will be when problems
start hitting the support queues. Re-learning things
has never been a great strength in Windows land,
but maybe a radical change in usage paradigm isn't
that bad. Also architectural changes (e. g. abandoning
decades of legacy) are welcome by supporters and also
by programmers.

As I said, we will see.



 BTW, I read on another blog by a typical MS Hater that he hated the
 new interface because the mouse was no longer usable in the system. It
 turns out the genius was not aware of how to enable or disable the
 mouse.

That's really stupid.

Do not confuse me with a MICROS~1 hater. You would be
surprised by the truth.



 And yes, the idiot is a charter member of slashdot. Go
 figure ...

I don't consume that kind of web content, sorry.



 In addition, I really do not appreciate your trolling.

You missed reading and interpreting the ;-) appended.
Better luck next time.



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Re: nVidia card manufacturer recommendations

2012-03-14 Thread Rod Person
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:57:29 +
Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or
 which I should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520.
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I have used cards from XFX and PNY without problem with the nvidia
driver in the past. 

I'm currently using a FX1700 Quadro that came from an HP machine, it
works without issue also, but I have not used any of the HP bios
updates for it.

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Re: nVidia card manufacturer recommendations

2012-03-14 Thread Arthur Chance

On 03/14/12 08:57, Arthur Chance wrote:

Somewhere, possibly here, a while back I saw a remark that certain
manufacturer's nVidia cards worked reliably with the nVidia supplied
drivers and others usually have problems because they tweak nVidia's
reference spec. Of course, I didn't bookmark it and neither Google nor
searching the last years' worth of the freebsd-questions@ archives has
turned it up.

Can anyone recommend which manufacturers I should look at and/or which I
should avoid? I'm specifically looking at the low end GT520.


I've just realised that I probably should have added for an amd64 system.
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Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots

2012-03-14 Thread jb
Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kworr at gmail.com writes:

 
 Adam Vande More wrote:
  I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After
  upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory
  was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot.
 
 
  So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test.  It doesn't mean it's not
  the culprit.  Way too many false negatives from those things.
 
 True. First server was stacked with Kingston memory, and now I moved to 
 Hynix. And is still gives me sometimes ECC errors.
 

You mentioned that it survives an hour in memtest.

Update BIOS - the BIOS in some computers allow counting of detected and
corrected memory errors, in part to help identify failing memory modules before
the problem becomes catastrophic.

Some BIOS have internal memory check tool. Try it.

Some refs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory

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Re: Running OS tftp vs. pxeboot tftp

2012-03-14 Thread Erik Nørgaard

Hi

On 14/03/2012 11:44, Rick Miller wrote:

I thought I would follow up on this as a couple individuals expressed
an interest in it...

We have isolated the configuration in which this occurs under.  It
occurs during the execution of pxeboot.bs on brocade switches with
vlan tagging enabled.


You might save yourself time and money buying a cheap switch and doing 
your jumpstart install on a separate closed network completely isolated 
from the rest of your networks, without VLAN tagging required.


If you have lots of nodes to install it makes sense to maintain your own 
repository of freebsd and packages, and it's good practice to keep your 
preproduction systems separate from production, so there is no need for 
network access.


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RE: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Chance
Sent: 14 March 2012 10:27
To: FreeBSD
Cc: Carmel
Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
 Adam Vande More articulated:

 Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA server?  
 Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.

 A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are 
 configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have 
 no idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything, 
 other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume 
 that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your 
 suggestion.

I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and is very 
picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user but I have the 
impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7 have DLNA support built 
in.

Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting Sony TVs 
working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts:

http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/
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I would have to disagree with some of the stuff in that blog, all be it I have 
a Bravia 5810 rather than a 5800 where he states that you cannot stream HD 
formats in PAL I would disagree, I am using different software as well but it 
does happily steam HD 720 and 1080 in PAL. IIRC Sony UK now officially 
recommend Serviio as a steaming solution for their products. I used to use 
ushare which worked great with the xbox 360 but the TV would not go near it and 
I wanted a solution that did not require extra machines to be on to use, hence 
not going down the Windows media player router, that and it was never happy if 
the media was remote.  I really did spend close to a year looking for a 
solution, and I even asked on the list if anyone knew of anything, the key is 
not so much in the DLNA support but in the media transcoding, for Sony you need 
something that will take your xvid / divx / mkv file and convert that in real 
time to a MPEG2 stream which the TV will then display.

Regards

Graeme
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flowcleaner running away with CPU

2012-03-14 Thread Dean E. Weimer
I have a FreeBSD 8.2-REALEASE-p5 system that is running as a Squid 
proxy server, after some complaints for internet performance I logged 
into the system to take a look, and discovered the flowcleaner process 
is consuming 100% on one CPU.  I did some searching, and have discovered 
that there have been some bugs in the past with this, and found the 
flowing command listed as a work around.


sysctl net.inet.flowtable.enable=0

I tried this, but there was no change, is this something that has to be 
done in the sysctl.conf configuration file that doesn't take effect 
until a reboot?  Or is there a process I can restart that will at least 
temporarily resolve this issue without completely interrupting internet 
traffic for a few hundred users?





last pid: 51636;  load averages:  1.03,  1.10,  1.09
 up 50+02:41:37  10:35:09

89 processes:  4 running, 71 sleeping, 14 waiting
CPU:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice, 49.7% system,  0.6% interrupt, 49.3% idle
Mem: 722M Active, 765M Inact, 415M Wired, 24M Cache, 213M Buf, 47M Free
Swap: 4061M Total, 212K Used, 4061M Free

  PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE   C   TIME   WCPU 
COMMAND
   11 root2 171 ki31 0K32K RUN 0 2019.8 100.00% 
idle
   19 root1  76- 0K16K CPU00 349.3H 100.00% 
flowcleaner
58759 squid   1  450   626M   594M select  0 683:15  2.98% 
squid
0 root7   80 0K96K -   1 1510.7  0.00% 
kernel

   12 root   14 -60- 0K   224K WAIT1 362:54  0.00% intr
   17 root1  44- 0K16K syncer  1  61:43  0.00% 
syncer
 1095 root1  440 96672K 75432K select  1  36:11  0.00% 
vmtoolsd
   13 root1 -16- 0K16K -   1  16:10  0.00% 
yarrow



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satisfying package dependencies from installation DVD when building a port -- HOW?

2012-03-14 Thread IMAP List Administration
Hello,

I've just installed 9.0-RELEASE (amd64) in a KVM/Qemo VM on debian linux, which
is extremely painful because of the abysmal I/O performance, and would like to
build the virtio-kmod. After unpacking src.txz (xz -c
/cd/usr/freebsd-dist/src.txz | tar xf -) I did the following:

# cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtio-kmo
# make clean install

at this point I saw port names such as perl, tcl, neon, sqlite, etc fly past. 
Apparently the ports system satisfies dependencies from the ports tree by 
default.

Since I have not updated anything, it seems reasonable, and much less painful to
satisfy the dependencies using the packages on the installation DVD, which is
mounted on /cd.

I tried setting PKG_PATH to /cd/packages and to /cd/packages/All, but when I
simply try to test using, for example, pkg_add perl pkg_add simply says can't
stat package file.

I'm guessing it would be pointless to try to use a (remote) URL in PACKAGEROOT,
as the -r flag *must* be give in order for pkg_add to honor the setting, and
god knows how the ports system calls pkg_add, if at all.

I had a long look in the docs, but this stuff doesn't *seem* to be documented :(

Is it possible to get the ports system to satisfy dependencies using the
packages from the installation DVD?  If so, how?

cheers,

Robert Urban
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Re: satisfying package dependencies from installation DVD when building a port -- HOW?

2012-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:11:55 +0100, IMAP List Administration wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've just installed 9.0-RELEASE (amd64) in a KVM/Qemo VM on debian linux, 
 which
 is extremely painful because of the abysmal I/O performance, and would like to
 build the virtio-kmod. After unpacking src.txz (xz -c
 /cd/usr/freebsd-dist/src.txz | tar xf -) I did the following:
 
 # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtio-kmo
 # make clean install
 
 at this point I saw port names such as perl, tcl, neon, sqlite, etc fly past. 

You can use the command

# make missing

to get a list of which dependencies need to be installed.
See man 7 ports for other targets that might be useful.



 Apparently the ports system satisfies dependencies from the ports tree by 
 default.

Correct. Dependencies are resolved and installed (usually
by compiling them from source, installing and registering
them), then the initial build is returned to.



 Since I have not updated anything, it seems reasonable, and much less painful 
 to
 satisfy the dependencies using the packages on the installation DVD, which is
 mounted on /cd.

If the default options of the dependency ports are fine for
you, this should be no problem.



 I tried setting PKG_PATH to /cd/packages and to /cd/packages/All, but 
 when I
 simply try to test using, for example, pkg_add perl pkg_add simply says 
 can't
 stat package file.

Change CWD to the location of the packages (on CD) and
try again. According to man pkg_add:

If the packages are not found in the current
working directory, pkg_add will search them in
each directory named by PKG_PATH.

If there's still an error, can you provide the command
you entered plus the output? Maybe adding -v helps to
give some more information.



 I'm guessing it would be pointless to try to use a (remote) URL in 
 PACKAGEROOT,
 as the -r flag *must* be give in order for pkg_add to honor the setting, and
 god knows how the ports system calls pkg_add, if at all.

The ports do not use pkg_add.

However, using a tool like portmaster or portinstall can
help you using binary packages (options -P and -PP).

If you use pkg_add -r, some more magic will be applied
to form the proper URI for fetching the packages (e. g.
architecture and OS version may be considered).



 I had a long look in the docs, but this stuff doesn't *seem* to be documented 
 :(

I don't remember any particular documentation regarding
this procedure. The pkg_add command should automatically
install dependencies (option -i to prevent).



 Is it possible to get the ports system to satisfy dependencies using the
 packages from the installation DVD?  If so, how?

I think that's possible; I hope you got some inspiration.



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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Peter Harrison

   So= rry for top posting - my 'phone makes it difficult.
   I use Mediatomb = very successfully to serve video from my FreeBSD
   server to my DLNA digibox.= Moderately easy to setup and a breeze once
   up and running.
   = span id=signature

   --
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   = From: Carmel
   Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10= :39
   To: FreeBSD
   Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folde= rs on FreeBSD visible on HD
   TV
   On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 += 
   Arthur Chance articulated:
   
On 03/13/12 19:54, = Carmel wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
   =  Adam Vande More articulated:

 Are = you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a
   DLNA
g= t; server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other
   port.
   = 
 A couple of people have replied to this thread. The S= amba shares
   are
 configured correctly and are visible on my = Windows based PCs.
   I
 have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA= . I never had to
   configure
 anything, other than sharing t= he folders, on my Microsoft PCs,
   so
 am I to assume that DLN= A is always available on that OS? Anyway,
   I
 will try your s= uggestion.

I have a Sony networked TV, and it defini= tely needs a DLNA server
   and
is very picky about what formats ar= e served. I'm not a Windows
   user
but I have the impression Home = or Home Premium versions of
   Vista/Win7
have DLNA support built i= n.

Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog = posts on
   getting
Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this= and the related
   posts:

http://www.leidinger.net/blo   g/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/
   
   I did some checking.= Win7, all versions, have support built into
   it.
   Apparently Vista and= WinXP were updated with support via the
   Microsoft
   Update system. I h= ave to admit, that does make for a very user
   friendly environment. = Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs
   quite
   successfully. I have= several friends who have integrated their TVs
   with
   their home PC qui= te successfully and painlessly.
   
   I am still studying how to mak= e FreeBSD similarly user
   friendly.
   Thanks for the link.
   
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USA Anonymous CVS

2012-03-14 Thread Dan Lists
From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html

USA: anon...@anoncvs1.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs (For ssh, use ssh version
2 and no password is required.)

SSH2 HostKey: 2048 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub

Example A-2. Using SSH to Check Out the src/ Tree:

% cvs -d anon...@anoncvs1.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs co src
The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (216.87.78.137)' can't
be established.
DSA key fingerprint is 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of
known hosts.

However, when I acutally issue the command, I get a different DSA key,
different IP, and it will not accept any password:

# cvs -d anon...@anoncvs1.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs co src
The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (96.47.72.116)' can't
be established.
DSA key fingerprint is 4e:bc:48:a0:e1:27:0a:62:c8:da:45:31:d4:ad:b2:00.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of
known hosts.
Password:
Password:
Password:
Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

Is the USA anonymous CVS server no longer operational?

Thanks,

Dan
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Inquiry from University student

2012-03-14 Thread Kuan Ming Tan
Hi,
Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you
provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD?

Hope to receive your reply soon!

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Re: Inquiry from University student

2012-03-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kuan Ming Tan c3138...@uon.edu.au wrote:

 Hi,
 Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you
 provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD?

 Hope to receive your reply soon!

 --
 Regards,
 Tan Kuan Ming



http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nutshell.html#INTRODUCTION-NUTSHELL-USERS



Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: Inquiry from University student

2012-03-14 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed Mar 14 12:47:15 2012
 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:36:28 +0800
 From: Kuan Ming Tan c3138...@uon.edu.au.r-bonomi.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: 
 Subject: Inquiry from University student

 Hi,
 Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you
 provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD?

 Hope to receive your reply soon!

Apple.

Sony.

Juniper Systems.

just to name a few.
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Re: Inquiry from University student

2012-03-14 Thread Matthew Story
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote:

  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed Mar 14 12:47:15 2012
  Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:36:28 +0800
  From: Kuan Ming Tan c3138...@uon.edu.au.r-bonomi.com
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc:
  Subject: Inquiry from University student
 
  Hi,
  Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can
 you
  provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD?
 
  Hope to receive your reply soon!

 Apple.

 Sony.

 Juniper Systems.

 just to name a few.


eadler sent this link out on the nyc*bug talk list earlier in the week, an
incomplete list, but a good one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_products_based_on_FreeBSD


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Re: Inquiry from University student

2012-03-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kuan Ming Tan c3138...@uon.edu.au wrote:

 Hi,
 Im a bachelor student currently runs a project related to FreeBSD, can you
 provide some example of organizations which using FreeBSD?

 Hope to receive your reply soon!

 --
 Regards,
 Tan Kuan Ming




http://www.ixsystems.com/ix/support/software/freebsd-support?gclid=CIXb__mD564CFcJN3wodBk3TjA

http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/software_bycat.html
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consult_bycat.html
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/misc.html

http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/


Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000
 From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
 Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
 should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
 everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
 linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
 bandwidth.
 Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
 name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
 It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
 A problem may be that it is a PCI card.
 
 The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
 tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
 and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
 card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed
 from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also
 need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
 sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
 combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
 any format and container you want.
 
 This is the card:
 
 bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
  chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
  device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
  class  = multimedia
  subclass   = video
 
 The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
 audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)
 
 You need the kernel modules loaded per
 
  bktr_load=YES
 
 in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
 No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)
 
 The player command is something like
 
  % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0
 
 and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
 adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.
 
 I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
 been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
 documentation that may help:
 
  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html
 
 It also contains an example to record to file, which will
 implement the software video tape recoder functionality.
 Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to
 DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or
 need for them.
 
 The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way),
 including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port
 to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the
 card is USB based and use webcamd.
 
 Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.


GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill
just skip it for now.  i have my feed from my local telco,
not an antenna

thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well
live without the card.

gary



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Moved drives ...

2012-03-14 Thread David Walker
Hey.

I had installed 9.0 to a SATA drive (ada1 I think) and went to install
Windows on a higher numbered drive but Windows doesn't like that or so
I gathered.
Anyway, I moved drives around and installed Windows - FreeBSD is now
ada2 I think.
I'm used to OpenBSD where fixing this is a vi fstab ...
What's the procedure on FreeBSD?

Best wishes.
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-14 Thread Da Rock

On 03/15/12 05:30, Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000
From: Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
bandwidth.

Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
A problem may be that it is a PCI card.

The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed

from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also

need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
any format and container you want.

This is the card:

bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
 device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = video

The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)

You need the kernel modules loaded per

bktr_load=YES

in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)

The player command is something like

% mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0

and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.

I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
documentation that may help:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html

It also contains an example to record to file, which will
implement the software video tape recoder functionality.

Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to
DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or
need for them.

The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way),
including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port
to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the
card is USB based and use webcamd.

Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.


GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill
just skip it for now.  i have my feed from my local telco,
not an antenna

thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well
live without the card.

gary

Sorry Gary; It wasn't entirely for your sake that this came up.

For your instance I'd suggest becoming very familiar with 
mplayer/mencoder and friends. You can then pick up the stream and 
re-encode to your liking. There are some addons in web browser that can 
help grab the video as well.

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Re: Moved drives ...

2012-03-14 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 14 March 2012 17:39, David Walker davidianwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey.

 I had installed 9.0 to a SATA drive (ada1 I think) and went to install
 Windows on a higher numbered drive but Windows doesn't like that or so
 I gathered.
 Anyway, I moved drives around and installed Windows - FreeBSD is now
 ada2 I think.
 I'm used to OpenBSD where fixing this is a vi fstab ...
 What's the procedure on FreeBSD?


Yes, you can change the fstab (if you can get in via mountroot:
at the boot prompt, I believe) from single user mode.  If you'd've
used labels (either glabel or tunefs -L) you'd not have to change
your /etc/fstab at all.

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Racoon failed to get subjectAltName

2012-03-14 Thread Da Rock
I could be wrong in my assumption, but I cannot seem to get this to work 
for me and this error will not disappear while my problem continues.


I'm trying to get a RoadWarrior setup for an Android L2TP/IPSec vpn. I 
had it working at one time on my LAN but failed getting through the pf 
firewall, so I stowed it while I was required to work on something else; 
unfortunately I lost the working config somehow (I think? This could be 
just the bug) and I had to start again- no biggie as I pulled the info 
off the net before so I could do it again.


I recreated some new certificates (the old ones I used to test had 
expired- I only gave them a very short life for security reasons), and 
recreated what I thought I had before using xca (same as previously). 
These include the mandatory SAN: I use email:copy to set this.


No amount of googling has helped my investigations, everything is still 
basically the same age as when I first set this up. But racoon insists 
the SAN is unavailable now. I've also tried turning off verify identity, 
but in spite it says the certificates don't match because of empty 
certificate requests; it would seem that it is still looking for the SAN 
even though it no longer says so. Googling also verifies that racoon 
_requires_ SAN to be set to work.


I've tried other SAN types, but they don't seem to work either. A check 
on the certificate shows that it _is_ actually there on all the 
certificates, but racoon must be blind or something :)


Can anyone shed some light on this? Has racoon developed a bug on this 
at some time?


FWIW racoon wont even pass phase1 so I'd assume it is not working 
because of this problem.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:30:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000
  From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
  Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  
  On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
bandwidth.
  Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
  name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
  It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
  A problem may be that it is a PCI card.
  
  The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
  tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
  and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
  card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed
  from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also
  need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
  sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
  combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
  any format and container you want.
  
  This is the card:
  
  bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
   chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
   device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
   class  = multimedia
   subclass   = video
  
  The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
  audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)
  
  You need the kernel modules loaded per
  
 bktr_load=YES
  
  in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
  No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)
  
  The player command is something like
  
 % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0
  
  and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
  adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.
  
  I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
  been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
  documentation that may help:
  
 http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html
  
  It also contains an example to record to file, which will
  implement the software video tape recoder functionality.
  Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to
  DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or
  need for them.
  
  The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way),
  including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port
  to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the
  card is USB based and use webcamd.
  
  Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.
 
 
   GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill
   just skip it for now.  i have my feed from my local telco,
   not an antenna

The BrookTree TV tuner component doesn't make a big difference
here. Both the antenna and the cable will deliver a frequency
conglomerate of the available TV programs which the tuner chip
can select from.

If you require a specific cable receiver with video-out, you can
send its signal to the card's video-on (and the audio-out of the
receiver to your computer's sound card's line-in), skipping the
part where the TV card has to select a TV program. Both methods
work fine.



   thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well
   live without the card.

In that case, try to find a web presence that allows you to down-
load or to stream (and in conclusion, to download) the TV programs.
This makes you independent of airing time (which probably is a
good thing).

Maybe there's also a service like OnlineTVRecorder.com (Your
personal multichannel tv recorder) available for you, providing
downloads for the programs you want in AVI or OTRKEY format.



-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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