Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar

it without any problem. It _may_ be possible that some
systems like Windows have trouble with this approach,


what trouble? Windows doesn't probably see anything.

anyway i would not risk running windows with FreeBSD containing disk 
connected at the same time anyway. it's always risky.



To OP:

If you omit the slice and just create two partitions (one for
FS and one for swap), FreeBSD will use this fine. Just make

bsdlabel -B device is just enough after that
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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Ah the FAQ
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#DANGEROUSLY-DEDICATED

I don't think it's dangerous either.
Thanks for your explanations.


While it's far simpler. Anyway i wasn't aware it's called that way as i 
don't use installer

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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar

disks. Maybe you get a
few kb of extra space. Don't do it.

because?


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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Is there any performance advantage to using a dedicated disk layout


no. it is simplicity adventage, as well as (for SSD and 4K sector disks) 
far easier to put partitions aligned.

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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 11:16:33 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  Ah the FAQ
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#DANGEROUSLY-DEDICATED
 
  I don't think it's dangerous either.
  Thanks for your explanations.
 
 While it's far simpler. Anyway i wasn't aware it's called that way as i 
 don't use installer

As far as I know, the installer dropped dedicated mode some time
ago. So if you intendedly want to use it, you need to bypass the
installer and do the few simple steps using the CLI.



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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 11:15:44 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  it without any problem. It _may_ be possible that some
  systems like Windows have trouble with this approach,
 
 what trouble? Windows doesn't probably see anything.

I have _no_ idea. Systems behaving in a manner you cannot
expect or predict are hard to tell in what they could do
wrong on a non-standard setting (from their point of
view of course).



 anyway i would not risk running windows with FreeBSD containing disk 
 connected at the same time anyway. it's always risky.

It maybe suggests to repair it... :-)



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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar


While it's far simpler. Anyway i wasn't aware it's called that way as i
don't use installer


As far as I know, the installer dropped dedicated mode some time
ago. So if you intendedly want to use it, you need to bypass the
installer and do the few simple steps using the CLI.

i already do this, by not starting it at all.

bootable pendrive with complete system is all i need. nothing more than 
bsdlabel newfs and COPY is needed

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router

2012-07-07 Thread ajtiM
Hi!

I have a printer connected through router which works. But the last two days I 
found three printed papers:
two are empty and on the one is:
GET http://www.rackspace.com/ HTTP/1.1
Host: www.rackspace.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible, MSIE 6.0: Windows NT 5.1)
Axxept: */*
Accept-Language: zh-cn
Connection: Keep-Alive

and on the other one was:
GET http://proxyjudge1.proxyfire.net/fastenv HTTP/1.1
Host: proxyjudge1.proxyfire.net
and the other four lines are the same.

And the other problem is that I have in the router logs IP 184.58.138.79.

Thank you very much.



Mitja

http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa
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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar


http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/09.03.shtml


That is EXTREMELY old advice.

completely irrevelant now.

Why so many people blindly repeat some rules without understanding it. 
Even years after that rule no longer matters.


The other example is creating lots of partitions.
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Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar

environment.


gpart(8) can create MBR slice/partition layouts (and GPT and other partition 
schemes).  See the man page.  There is little reason to use fdisk and 
bsdlabel any more.


i use only disklabel, no fdisk at all. i put partition start sector where 
i want - no align problems.


I did not use gpart for now in production as i have no 2TB disk where i 
want to do partition at all.


Actually i've got quite a few 3TB disks recently but there are no both 
gpart, fdisk or disklabels on them, just single full disk(*) filesystem 
for user data.


* - actually gmirror of 3 disks.
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GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Carmel
I have heard, although I never personally saw it, a GUI for gpart I
heard that there exists one for Linux. Is there any comparable one for
FreeBSD and comparable with KDE?

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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:58:06 -0400, Carmel wrote:
 I have heard, although I never personally saw it, a GUI for gpart I
 heard that there exists one for Linux. Is there any comparable one for
 FreeBSD and comparable with KDE?

I'd suggest to look into the PC-BSD installer and the
utilities that come with that system.


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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I have heard, although I never personally saw it, a GUI for gpart I
heard that there exists one for Linux. Is there any comparable one for
FreeBSD and comparable with KDE?
no idea. If you want it with already installed system, try to compile 
linux software.


Anyway i see no reason for such a software, click-click solutions are 
always inefficient relative to normal text based ones, and partitioning is 
not a job that end user (who want click-click interfaces at all cost) is 
supposed to do

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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Beni Brinckman
2012/7/7 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
 I have heard, although I never personally saw it, a GUI for gpart I
 heard that there exists one for Linux. Is there any comparable one for
 FreeBSD and comparable with KDE?

 no idea. If you want it with already installed system, try to compile linux
 software.

 Anyway i see no reason for such a software, click-click solutions are always
 inefficient relative to normal text based ones, and partitioning is not a
 job that end user (who want click-click interfaces at all cost) is supposed
 to do

What happened to the idea of having a choice ? If you want to keep
living in the 80's with a text based menu, go ahead, I prefer a click
solution. And I see no reason why a click solution is always
inefficient. That depends on the programmer making the interface.
I'm a desktop user. So I should mind my own business and shut up
because some old (or senior if you prefer) server guy has a problem
using a mouse ? No thanks ! I prefer to live in 2012 and use the
technical means of nowadays.
No flames intended, just my opinion (which has nothing to do with the
original question, I know).
Beni.
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boot0 boot manager

2012-07-07 Thread iPwn
i have a disk with apple operating system installed, Mac OSX 10.5.8, if 
i resize the disk and create another partition for FreeBSD and then 
install FreeBSD on that partition i will obtain the boot0 boot manager 
when i startup computer? also, it will show the option to load the Mac 
OSX or i have to configure the boot0 boot manager to be able to boot the 
Mac OSX?

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Format a USB flash drive using gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Carmel
This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.

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Re: Format a USB flash drive using gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:15:10 -0400, Carmel wrote:
 This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
 flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
 erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.

In that case, screw slices and partitions 'n stuff. :-)

# newfs /dev/da0

This is all you need (see man newfs and man tunefs for
options you might need to optimize utilization, and check
best fitting options for /etc/fstab, e. g. noatime if you
are not going to need it).


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RE: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
Sent: 07 July 2012 14:50
To: FreeBSD
Subject: Re: GUI for gpart

 I have heard, although I never personally saw it, a GUI for gpart I 
 heard that there exists one for Linux. Is there any comparable one for 
 FreeBSD and comparable with KDE?
no idea. If you want it with already installed system, try to compile linux 
software.

Anyway i see no reason for such a software, click-click solutions are always 
inefficient relative to normal text based ones, and partitioning is not a job 
that end user (who want click-click interfaces at all cost) is supposed to do 
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Perhaps your English phrasing loses something in translation, but your 
opinions are always presented in a way that you are correct and the rest of 
the world is just wrong. 

As for the original question have a look at the gparted live cd, full GUI 
support on that so you might be able to get that running, off the top of my 
head I am not sure about UFS support.
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qbittorrent freezes, ioctl sign-extension ioctl ffffffff8004667e

2012-07-07 Thread Jens Schweikhardt
hello, world\n

is anybody else seeing this? On a fresh 9-STABLE/amd64 as of July 7,
with all ports compiled from scratch. Qbittorrent (2.9.11) freezes after
about 10 to 20 seconds, reacts to mouse clicks only after a minute or
so; the window isn't redrawn when it was obscured by other windows and
/var/log/messages has this to say:

Jul  7 11:09:56 hal9000 kernel: WARNING pid 89448 (qbittorrent): ioctl 
sign-extension ioctl 8004667e
Jul  7 11:10:50 hal9000 kernel: WARNING pid 89448 (qbittorrent): ioctl 
sign-extension ioctl 8004667e
Jul  7 11:11:21 hal9000 last message repeated 38 times

There's no way out other than sending two SIGINT (CTRL-C) to kill qbittorrent.

It looks like this is similar or even the same problem as in
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-June/057360.html
If it was ever fixed, then it looks like it reappeared.

Regards,

Jens
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Re: Format a USB flash drive using gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Thomas Mueller
 On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:15:10 -0400, Carmel wrote:
  This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
  flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
  erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.

 In that case, screw slices and partitions 'n stuff. :-)

 # newfs /dev/da0

 This is all you need (see man newfs and man tunefs for
 options you might need to optimize utilization, and check
 best fitting options for /etc/fstab, e. g. noatime if you
 are not going to need it).


 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany

I have used gpart to partition a USB flash drive into FreeBSD boot partition, 
root partition and swap partition.

I ran newfs on the second (root) partition, even installed FreeBSD built from 
source, and made the flash drive bootable, both for amd64 and i386.

Does a USB flash drive also work as a giant floppy, no partitions?  Can you 
make a flash drive bootable when nonpartitioned and formatted that way?

Tom
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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar


What happened to the idea of having a choice ? If you want to keep
living in the 80's with a text based menu, go ahead, I prefer a click
not only me but anyone that wants productivity do live in 80's text based 
interfaces or even 60-70's command line interfaces.


These are facts.

And partition editor are not supposed to be used by end users.
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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 08:58:06 -0400, Carmel wrote:
 I have heard, although I never personally saw it, a GUI for gpart I
 heard that there exists one for Linux. Is there any comparable one for
 FreeBSD and comparable with KDE?

I think gpart is the newer disk partitioning program for FreeBSD, replacing the 
older gpt still used in NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD.

gpart in FreeBSD supports partition types suitable mainly for FreeBSD as 
opposed to more general, including Linux and other BSD.

So I wouldn't expect to find gpart in Linux, though there is a more general 
gdisk, by Rod Smith:

http://rodsbooks.com/gdisk/

But I don't think there is any GUI for gdisk.

I believe the latest release is 0.8.5; gdisk is also in FreeBSD ports, latest 
version there being 0.8.2 as far as I know.


Tom
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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Bruce Cran

On 07/07/2012 23:04, Thomas Mueller wrote:

I think gpart is the newer disk partitioning program for FreeBSD, replacing the 
older gpt still used in NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD.


No. gpart is the tool - it supports both mbr and gpt partitioning schemes.

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RE: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Perhaps your English phrasing loses something in translation, but your 
opinions are always presented in a way that you are correct and the rest of 
the world is just wrong.


what you expect - to assume i am wrong and everyone else is right. if i 
assume so i don't present such opinion naturally.



As for the original question have a look at the gparted live cd, full GUI

no idea how it is freebsd related.
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Re: GUI for gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Bruce Cran

On 07/07/2012 23:08, Bruce Cran wrote:

On 07/07/2012 23:04, Thomas Mueller wrote:
I think gpart is the newer disk partitioning program for FreeBSD, 
replacing the older gpt still used in NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD.


No. gpart is the tool - it supports both mbr and gpt partitioning 
schemes.




Sorry you're right - I've seen lots of people thinking gpart only 
supports GPT and didn't read it properly before replying.


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Re: Format a USB flash drive using gpart

2012-07-07 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Carmel wrote:


This is probably a dumb question, but does gpart even work on a USB
flash drive? I have not been able to figure out how to do it. I want to
erase the entire drive and format it for a FreeBSD UFS2 file system.


Yes, gpart will work with pretty much any storage device.

If you want the drive to be bootable, it needs boot blocks.  This is 
easier with GPT than MBR.  For an 8G drive:


# gpart create -s gpt da0
# gpart add -t freebsd-boot -s 512k da0
# gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 da0
# gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -b 1M -s 7G da0
# gpart add -t freebsd-swap da0
# newfs -U /dev/da0p2
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anoncvs password

2012-07-07 Thread perryh
What is one supposed to enter when anoncvs prompts for a password?

I have tried:

* my email address, as I would use for anon FTP
* ftp, as was once conventionally used for anon FTP
* cvs (same idea, but mentioning the transport in use)
* nothing -- just hit return

None of these works.  I get

Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/anoncvs.html seems to say
that anoncvs either should not require a password (Example A-2),
or it should accept any password at all (the other examples).
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