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Re: mount -u effects

[Polytropon]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:55:10 +0330, takCoder wrote:
> via googling, i found out that i can use "mount -u" on the mentioned
> device, and then after doing whatsoever needed, when i restart my server
> the ro permission will be back via applying old fstab..

You could have found it out by refering to "man mount". :-)



> but i have no idea what kind of effects it may have on my server.. i
> couldn't find anything but suggestions about not to use this so often.. and
> i really need to know why?? cause my bsd server is not allowed to be missed
> almost at all..
> 
> i think that because this -u option is just increasing my permissions in
> this case, there won't be a danger for my server. is that true?!

There are _few_ side effects that _may_ apply when using the -u
option. From the manual:

The -u flag indicates that the status of an already mounted file
system should be changed.  Any of the options discussed above
(the -o option) may be changed; also a file system can be changed
from read-only to read-write or vice versa.  An attempt to change
from read-write to read-only will fail if any files on the file
system are currently open for writing unless the -f flag is also
specified.  The set of options is determined by applying the
options specified in the argument to -o and finally applying the
-r or -w option.

So I'd say you should always take care that write operations
are finished properly (and so brought to an end).


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Question on "zero signal"

[Michał Stępień]

Hello,

I try to use freebsd 9.1RC3 for my mpd music station (running nfsroot by
the way). Generally everything is ok, but there is one functionality I
miss from linux. My DAC behaves quite weird when no signal is sent to it
(with spdif, in my configuration it is pcm1).
Namely my dac produces noise in such situation. In linux there was
workaround. Under linux card sends some king of zero signal. DAC is
satisfied and produces noise not any more. In loudspeakes is silence if
mpd is stoped. Audio device is not kept by application -- signal is sent
by driver itself.

[prezi@zjawa ~]$ cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64)
Installed devices:
pcm0:  on hdaa0 kld snd_hda
(1p:1v/2r:1v)
snddev flags=0x2e2
[pcm0:play:dsp0.p0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x00200010, flags 0x2100,
0x0004
interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 
[b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2]
channel flags=0x2100
{userland} -> feeder_mixer(0x00200010) -> {hardware}
pcm0:play:dsp0.p0[pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0]: spd 8000, fmt 0x0018,
flags 0x1000, 0x
interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0]
channel flags=0x1000
{userland} -> feeder_root(0x) -> {hardware}
[pcm0:record:dsp0.r0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x00200010, flags 0x2100,
0x0005
interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 4096, sfree 4096
[b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2]
channel flags=0x2100
{hardware} -> feeder_root(0x00200010) -> feeder_mixer(0x00200010) ->
{userland}
[pcm0:record:dsp0.r1]: spd 8000, fmt 0x0018, flags 0x,
0x
interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 65536, sfree 0
[b:65536/32768/2|bs:0/0/0]
channel flags=0x0
{hardware} -> feeder_root(0x) -> {userland}
pcm0:record:dsp0.r0[pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vr0]: spd 8000, fmt 0x0018,
flags 0x1000, 0x
interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 0, sfree 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0]
channel flags=0x1000
{hardware} -> feeder_root(0x) -> {userland}
pcm1:  on hdaa0 kld snd_hda (1p:1v/0r:0v)
default
snddev 
flags=0x2e7
[pcm1:play:dsp1.p0]: spd 44100, fmt 0x00200010, flags 0xa100,
0x0004
interrupts 55798, underruns 0, feed 55798, ready 0
[b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2]
channel flags=0xa100
{userland} -> feeder_mixer(0x00200010) -> {hardware}
pcm1:play:dsp1.p0[pcm1:virtual:dsp1.vp0]: spd 44100, fmt 0x00200010,
flags 0x1000, 0x0021
interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:65536/2048/32]
channel flags=0x1000
{userland} -> feeder_root(0x00200010) -> feeder_volume(0x00200010) ->
{hardware}
pcm2:  on hdaa1 kld snd_hda (1p:1v/0r:0v)
snddev 
flags=0x2e7
[pcm2:play:dsp2.p0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x00200010, flags 0x6100,
0x0004
interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 
[b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2]
channel flags=0x6100
{userland} -> feeder_mixer(0x00200010) -> {hardware}
pcm2:play:dsp2.p0[pcm2:virtual:dsp2.vp0]: spd 8000, fmt 0x0018,
flags 0x1000, 0x
interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0]
channel flags=0x1000
{userland} -> feeder_root(0x) -> {hardware}


dmesg:
hdacc0:  at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0:  at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0:  at nid 20,27 and 24,25,26 on
hdaa0
pcm1:  at nid 30 on hdaa0
hdacc1:  at cad 3 on hdac0
hdaa1:  at nid 1 on hdacc1
pcm2:  at nid 5 on hdaa1

sysctl:
dev.hdac.0.%desc: NVIDIA MCP79 HDA Controller
dev.hdac.0.%driver: hdac
dev.hdac.0.%location: slot=8 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.HDAC
dev.hdac.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0ac0 subvendor=0x174b
subdevice=0x437b class=0x040300
dev.hdac.0.%parent: pci0
dev.hdac.0.wake: 0
dev.hdac.0.pindump: 0
dev.hdac.0.polling: 0
dev.hdacc.0.%desc: Realtek ALC662 HDA CODEC
dev.hdacc.0.%driver: hdacc
dev.hdacc.0.%location: cad=0
dev.hdacc.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10ec device=0x0662 revision=0x01
stepping=0x01
dev.hdacc.0.%parent: hdac0
dev.hdacc.1.%desc: NVIDIA MCP7A HDA CODEC
dev.hdacc.1.%driver: hdacc
dev.hdacc.1.%location: cad=3
dev.hdacc.1.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0007 revision=0x01
stepping=0x00
dev.hdacc.1.%parent: hdac0
dev.hdaa.0.%desc: Realtek ALC662 Audio Function Group
dev.hdaa.0.%driver: hdaa
dev.hdaa.0.%location: nid=1
dev.hdaa.0.%pnpinfo: type=0x01 subsystem=0x19daa108
dev.hdaa.0.%parent: hdacc0
dev.hdaa.0.nid20_config: 0x01014010 as=1 seq=0 device=Line-out conn=Jack
ctype=1/8 loc=Rear color=Green misc=0
dev.hdaa.0.nid20_original: 0x01014010 as=1 seq=0 device=Line-out
conn=Jack ctype=1/8 loc=Rear color=Green misc=0
dev.hdaa.0.nid21_config: 0x41f0 as=15 seq=0 device=Speaker conn=None
ctype=1/8 loc=Rear color=Black misc=1
dev.hdaa.0.nid21_original: 0x41f0 as=15 seq=0 device=Speaker
conn=None ctype=1/8 loc=Rear color=Black misc=1
dev.hdaa.0.nid22_config: 0x41f0 as=15 seq=0 device=Speak

Re: getting packets on a specific port by pf

[takCoder]

hi,

suddenly this occured to my mind that, as you know, each firewall has a
virtual interface on system which they listen to..

so, isn't it possible to just forward required packets from ipfw to pf's
virtual if?

i have to mention that this is just an all-of-a-sudden idea and i'm not
sure about it's being right at all..

may be someone else can give both of us a tip on its being right or wrong??
:)

regards,
takCoder

Best Regards,
t.a.k



On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM, s m  wrote:

> dear takcoder
>
> maybe you are right but now it is not important for me. i want to get
> packets by pf in order to set packet's TOS bit (packets which comes from
> IPFW).
>
> have you any suggestion?
>
> thanks for your attention
> sam
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, takCoder  wrote:
>
>> hey sam,
>>
>> i don't know the exact answer for your question.. but a question occurred
>> in my mind..
>> what's your final purpose of doing so? what do you exactly mean by the
>> phrase "to change them"??
>>
>> and don't you think that this sequence of firewalls has a deep effect on
>> your system performance? in my idea this seems just like a throughput
>> bottleneck.. isn't it so? or it's not important here?
>>
>> any how.. if you tell us more details about what you're looking for, may
>> be it become more clear for guys such as me! ;)
>>
>> yours,
>> takcoder
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:53 PM, s m  wrote:
>>
>>>  hello guys
>>>
>>> i have a problem with getting packets which are diverted to a specific
>>> port
>>> by PF. i mean i diverted my packets to a specific port by IPFW and want
>>> to
>>> get these packets by PF to change them.
>>> i used "ipfw add 1000 divert 8000 all form any to any" command to divert
>>> my
>>> packets. how can i get these packets by pf on port number 8000?
>>>
>>> pf has "divert-reply" option. should i use it to get packets? how? any
>>> comments or hints are really appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> sam
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Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs

[Bas Smeelen]

On 12/11/2012 08:17 AM, Stephen Cook wrote:

On 12/11/2012 1:52 AM, Anonymous wrote:

We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project
to meet its future release dates.


Similarly, I'm a bit concerned that 9.0 loses support at the end of 
January, but there is no release date for 9.1 (at 
http://www5.us.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html, the last actual 
date shown is November 3, 2012, for RC3). I'm confused as to the best 
course of action: continue to use an unsupported version and hope the new 
one comes out sooner than later, or downgrade to a supported version (8.3).


I know FreeBSD is free and community-supported, but this still seems a 
bit... improper? Right now I'm only dealing with personal machines (and 
nothing truly vital at that), but I am formulating plans to use FreeBSD 
commercially and this makes me uneasy.


Well for production servers I have the habit of staying on 8.3-RELEASE, in 
this case, which is supported until April 30 2014 and then move them to 
9.1-RELEASE

I have been doing so for previous releases also, no need to get worried.

For personal and testing systems, like being not for clients production 
systems, I use whatever is desired, RELEASE, BETA, or RC (freebsd-update) 
and STABLE, or CURRENT (source svn)




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Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs

[Stephen Cook]

On 12/11/2012 1:52 AM, Anonymous wrote:

We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project
to meet its future release dates.


Similarly, I'm a bit concerned that 9.0 loses support at the end of 
January, but there is no release date for 9.1 (at 
http://www5.us.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html, the last actual 
date shown is November 3, 2012, for RC3). I'm confused as to the best 
course of action: continue to use an unsupported version and hope the 
new one comes out sooner than later, or downgrade to a supported version 
(8.3).


I know FreeBSD is free and community-supported, but this still seems a 
bit... improper? Right now I'm only dealing with personal machines (and 
nothing truly vital at that), but I am formulating plans to use FreeBSD 
commercially and this makes me uneasy.


-- Stephen

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Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs

[ill...@gmail.com]

On 11 December 2012 01:52, Anonymous  wrote:
> We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project
> to meet its future release dates.
>

No we don't. Go back to posting your pictures of kiddie porn, anonymous.

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FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs

[Anonymous]

We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project
to meet its future release dates.

Why: Because the FreeBSD project has not met a significant number
of its release dates. It's an apalling state of affairs and makes
you, the project, look silly. Business and personal users plan
elements of their schedules, budgets and capabilities around OS
updates. And the continual failure of FreeBSD to deliver causes us
to have no alternative but to look at our bosses and just shrug.
We've taken to padding it out a week, two weeks, a month, two
months... just to cover the random slippage. Since there seems to
be no public statements about this ongoing situation, we might as
well pad it to a quarter or a half... FreeBSD's already a half
behind on status reports.

No one is asking for a commercial dictatorship here. But please
FreeBSD, coordinate better amongst yourselves!!! Be honest about
what is and isn't going to make it. Grow the wiki as your central
coordination center [ie 1] and start moving dynamic docs from www
to there (the community). Replace GNATS (omg, ugh), SVN, and even
MoinMoin so the world can interface with some things that it has
some (good / market leading) experience with [2].

Other than that, FreeBSD is great :)

[1]
http://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD10

[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue_tracking_systems
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_help_desk_issue_tracking_software
 http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP)
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software
 http://www.simplemachines.org/
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Re: Brian

[Polytropon]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:49:59 -0500, Brian Blencoe wrote:
> What security features, set freebsd above other operating systems?

First I'd suggest to read on generic UNIX system design
which can already be considered a security feature. FreeBSD
implements many other additional features.

Maybe you'll find those entries useful for investigation:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/security.html



> What are some high lights that you have for IPv4 and IPv6 routing?

Again, the documentation should help you to find out what
you need to know:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routing.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html



> Why does freebsd handle the networking protocols differently than others,
> that makes it better?

I'm not sure what you mean by "better". FreeBSD's implementation
_differs_ from those of other systems. As FreeBSD is open source,
you can inspect all the inner workings to form your own opinion.
That should at least give you some inspiration on the "why".
FreeBSD's networking stack has proven to be reliable and efficient
over many years, and being "ready for the show" (especially in
regards of IPv6 features) prior to many other systems.


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Can't set xfce4 logout dialog buttons

[David Demelier]

Hi,

I added a file for handling shutdown / reboot for Xfce4, the content is 
located in 
/usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/51-sys-mgmt.pkla.


[Restart]
Identity=unix-group:operator
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes

[Shutdown]
Identity=unix-group:operator
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes

But clicking on the on the logout button, will open the xfce4 dialog and 
only shows "Logout" all others buttons are grey'ed. I have exactly the 
same setup on my laptop but with a [Suspend] added, and on my laptop the 
dialog show Logout and all buttons authorized.


On my both machine my user is in the operator group, so I don't know 
where I missed something for this machine..


Do you have a better idea?

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Re: Xorg got stuck sometimes

[David Demelier]

On 20/11/2012 19:18, Hooman Oroojeni wrote:

Try to rebuild Xorg with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU. That maybe helpfull.

Cheers

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, David Demelier 
mailto:demelier.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi there,

Sometimes, Xorg got stuck but I can't reproduce it always. When it
appears, Xorg just stop being usable and mouse / keyboard can't be
used also, switching to tty does not work at all and the screen is
frozen.

But I still can use ssh to connect the broken host and shutdown it
normally, Xorg will use 100% of CPU when it breaks like this.

I noticed this message when it appears :

EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.

I'm using the nvidia nvidia-driver-304.64 on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3

Cheers,
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Finally, it seems to be flash player the problem, just removed from 
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Re: question about my new Dell 3010

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:26:43AM -0600, Zane C. B-H. wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:47:06 -0800
> Gary Kline  wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rats:: xvidtune gave me 
> > 
> > "Video modes are not settable on this chip."
> > 
> > how cheap can you get? no, the question is: what chip/video
> > card do I need that will get me [at least]  1920x1280?
> 
> Unless you wish to get the the KMS stuff working like Warren Block
> suggested, I strongly advise getting a Nvidia card as of
> currently that is the easiest and most reliable way to get good 3D
> under FreeBSD.
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thanks; I will check into this!  ... .

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Re: question about my new Dell 3010

[Gary Kline]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 07:05:50AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 10/12/2012 00:31, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 08:38:06AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> >> > On 09/12/2012 00:23, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> >>> > >   one of the remaining problems --hopefuully the Last-- with my 
> >>> > >   Dell 3010 quad i5 is that the resolution stops at 5:4.  it's
> >>> > >   something like 1280x1014 whereas my widescreen Dell needs
> >>> > >   1920x1280 or close to that.  do I need to go out and find a
> >>> > >   videocard?  or is there a way of taking my 6GB of RAM and 
> >>> > > giving 
> >>> > >   it to the video?
> 
> >> > Do you have a DVI connector on your current graphics card, or just the
> >> > old style VGA connector?  Pretty much all modern widescreen monitors
> >> > will have a DVI connector as well as the legacy VGA.
> 
> > actually, I have both.  the KVM dates from 2010 and came with
> > four cables and eight plugs.  
> 
> Ahah!  You're using a KVM switch.  That can block the monitor from
> sending its configuration information to the X server.  It's easy to
> tell: just try connecting directly to the monitor temporarily.
> 
> If that works, you can use xrandr to extract the monitor details, write
> a mode line for your xorg.conf and put the KVM back in the loop, while
> keeping the optimum configuration.
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Matthew


the thing is that I had this working before--twice--one running
Gnnome, once KDE and both thru theKVM switch.  the last time I
re-reinstalled from a DVD [gnome], the kde from a CD: nojoy.

gary
 
 PS I managed to get both ssh's [bi-directionally] within a few
 hours.  ive run every diagnostic I can think of.

> 
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> 
> 



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Re: Xorg got stuck sometimes

[David Demelier]

On 20/11/2012 20:11, David Demelier wrote:

On 20/11/2012 19:18, Hooman Oroojeni wrote:

Try to rebuild Xorg with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU. That maybe helpfull.

Cheers

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, David Demelier
mailto:demelier.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi there,

Sometimes, Xorg got stuck but I can't reproduce it always. When it
appears, Xorg just stop being usable and mouse / keyboard can't be
used also, switching to tty does not work at all and the screen is
frozen.

But I still can use ssh to connect the broken host and shutdown it
normally, Xorg will use 100% of CPU when it breaks like this.

I noticed this message when it appears :

EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.

I'm using the nvidia nvidia-driver-304.64 on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3

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WITHOUT_NOUVEAU is already in my make.conf..

Cheers,



Let see if the 310.19 version will clear the problem, by the way why 
this version is not in the ports yet, because of the ports freeze?


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Re: Xorg got stuck sometimes

[David Demelier]

On 20/11/2012 19:18, Hooman Oroojeni wrote:

Try to rebuild Xorg with WITHOUT_NOUVEAU. That maybe helpfull.

Cheers

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, David Demelier 
mailto:demelier.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi there,

Sometimes, Xorg got stuck but I can't reproduce it always. When it
appears, Xorg just stop being usable and mouse / keyboard can't be
used also, switching to tty does not work at all and the screen is
frozen.

But I still can use ssh to connect the broken host and shutdown it
normally, Xorg will use 100% of CPU when it breaks like this.

I noticed this message when it appears :

EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.

I'm using the nvidia nvidia-driver-304.64 on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3

Cheers,
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David Demelier

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It appeared again, without doing much stuff but I can get these message 
from kernel when it appeared :


NVRM: GPU at :01:00: GPU-a259b0bd-20f2-e5b9-681f-848cadfd1d79
NVRM: Xid (:01:00): 8, Channel 0001

I need to find a solution, if not I will need to remove FreeBSD and 
switch back to Linux, thing I don't want to.


Cheers
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Brian

[Brian Blencoe]

What security features, set freebsd above other operating systems?

What are some high lights that you have for IPv4 and IPv6 routing?

Why does freebsd handle the networking protocols differently than others,
that makes it better?
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Re: Stickers

[Chris Whitehouse]

On 10/12/2012 00:17, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

"CONNOR KELLY (RIT Student)" wrote:

I am a student at Rochester Institute of Technology.  I was wondering if
you could send any stickers or swag with the freebsd logo or something
similar to me.  I would probably keep some for myself and pass the rest out
to my friends at my university.  This is in no way an official
communication from my school.  If need be I'll be able to pay for postage.


You could try freebsdmall.com.

Chris
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FreeBSD Ports Batch Install

[Rick Miller]

For those interested...

hostileadmin.com has published a new blog entitled FreeBSD Ports Batch
Install at http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/12/10/freebsd-ports-batch-install/

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Take care
Rick Miller
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Re: question about my new Dell 3010

[Zane C. B-H.]

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:47:06 -0800
Gary Kline  wrote:

> > 
> 
> 
>   Rats:: xvidtune gave me 
> 
>   "Video modes are not settable on this chip."
> 
>   how cheap can you get? no, the question is: what chip/video
> card do I need that will get me [at least]  1920x1280?

Unless you wish to get the the KMS stuff working like Warren Block
suggested, I strongly advise getting a Nvidia card as of
currently that is the easiest and most reliable way to get good 3D
under FreeBSD.
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