Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:11+0200, Roland van Laar wrote: > Hello, > > I followed these[1] step up to the Finishing touches. > I'm using a 9.1 Release. > > After the install I go into the shell and /mnt is empty. > The mount command shows that the zfs partitions are mounted. > When I reboot the system it can't find the bootloader. > > What can I do to fix this? > > Thanks, > > Roland van Laar > > [1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE Looking through the wiki notes I would do a couple of things in a different way. Since you're running 9.1-RELEASE you should take into account the need for the /boot/zfs/zpool.cache file until 9.2-RELEASE exist or you switch to the latest 9-STABLE. Create your zpool using a command like this one: zpool create -o cachefile=/tmp/zpool.cache -m /tmp/zroot zroot /dev/gpt/disk0 Copy the /tmp/zpool.cache file to /tmp/zroot/boot/zfs/zpool.cache, or in your case to /mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache after extracting the base and kernel stuff. In the wiki section Finishing touches, perform step 4 before step 3. The final command missing in step 3 should be zfs unmount -a once more. Avoid step 5 at all cost! Maybe this recipe is easier to follow, it sure works for 9.0-RELEASE and 9.1-RELEASE, I only hope you're happy typing long commands, and yes, command line editing is available in the shell: https://ximalas.info/2011/10/17/zfs-root-fs-on-freebsd-9-0/ Due to advances in hard drive technology, for the worse I'm afraid, i.e. 4K disk blocks, I wouldn't bother enabling compression on any ZFS file systems. I might change my blog posts to reflect this stop gap. If you do happen to have 4K drives, you might want to check out this blog post: https://ximalas.info/2012/01/11/new-server-and-first-attempt-at-running-freebsdamd64-with-zfs-for-all-storage/ -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: compatibility SCO
On Thu, 9 May 2013, grillo wrote: I need use Microsoft Cobol Compiler and runtime developed for Xenix/Unix system V SCO using NETBSD or FreeBSD, it is possible? have binary compatibility ? environment compatibility ? thank you You're probably forced to stay with MS Cobol for reasons beyond your control -- try and have a look at devel/open-cobol, nonetheless. Worked quite painlessly for getting run-off-the-mill code away from RM/Cobol about a year or two ago. MfG CoCo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS partitioning
You may not want to mirror the boot block. That way you can update one boot block, test it before copying the other. If the new boot block fails to boot, the BIOS should go to the next hard drive and boot the mirror. I don't know if it's possible to detect which drive you're actually booting from to know for sure it worked though. A back up is better than a mirror. With a mirror, you're more likely to fail to boot. On 5/12/2013 12:26 PM, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two The zpool mirror does not mirror the bootblock. You need to manually add that to all the drives you may want to boot from. pool: tank state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h0m with 0 errors on Sat May 11 13:20:41 2013 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM tankONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 da34p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 da35p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
Hello, I followed these[1] step up to the Finishing touches. I'm using a 9.1 Release. After the install I go into the shell and /mnt is empty. The mount command shows that the zfs partitions are mounted. When I reboot the system it can't find the bootloader. What can I do to fix this? Thanks, Roland van Laar [1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OT, i think...
SIMIoff topic. (I think)
Sorry but I am envious that you have a chrome working. I am stuck with the
===> chromium-25.0.1364.172_1 has known vulnerabilities:
chromium-25.0.1364.172_1 is vulnerable:
chromium -- multiple vulnerabilities
WWW: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/bdd48858-9656-11e2-a9a8-00262d5ed8ee.html
=> Please update your ports tree and try again.
*** [check-vulnerable] Error code 1
Sorry but I'm not sure which is worse, having it or not having it.
Again i apologize.
ed
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
>
> guys,
>
> if goog had their browser from BSD it would help big-time; I use one of
> the
> zillions of linux distros for my desktop. I dont have a bleeding edge
> cell. just something to call the cops or "access" [ small bus with wchair
> lift.] only have one hand, so cant easily hold cell and "type" blah * 3.
>
> SO, the upshot is, since I use firefox mostly, and chrome, rarely, I got a
> bit befuddled tonight trying to read an old philosopher's translation on
> chrome. I got to fess-up. reading on the screen is vastly easier than
> getting out a REAL book and paperweights, and taking off my eyeglasses,
> &C! tonight, I figured out howto enlarge the font and bring up the book.
> --i read "the prince" by nick whatever. this on google's browser. it
> took awhile before I realized that I wasnt hearing the words! yes, the
> speaker in the circle [[upper right]] read aloud and I could glean
> that much more by reading with eyes and ears. ===but=== is there some
> magic I ca n use to do an "All", and then fire off the text-to-voice?
>
>
> [[[the following is interesting only if you're into art schopenhauer.
> his works were not correctly xlated until {i think} 1954. I bought the
> p'back of his *Parerga and Paralipomena: A Collection of Philosophical
> Essays*. I never read it. google has it, and I suppose I could cough pup
> $whatever. but only if they got their tts stuff working without me having
> to
> mouse 600+ pages or whatever it requires. ]]]
>
>
> anybody know howto make this All menu cmd work in chrome? in ffox, it's
> a simple edit->control-A
>
> thanks much,
>
> gary
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service
> Unix
> Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.
>
> ___
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
>
--
Bienes Raíces in Coatepec, Veracruz, Mexico
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Inmobiliaria-Bienes-Raices-httpEcoManiainfo/102249989850215?sk=photos_albums
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS partitioning
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Kraus wrote: > On May 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: > > > notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if > > disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two > > The zpool mirror does not mirror the bootblock. You need to > manually add that to all the drives you may want to boot from. > > yeah i know ive done both bootblocks, Thanks though > > pool: tank > > state: ONLINE > > scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h0m with 0 errors on Sat May 11 13:20:41 2013 > > config: > > > >NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM > >tankONLINE 0 0 0 > > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > >da34p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > >da35p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > > > errors: No known data errors > > -- > Paul Kraus > Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 > Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS partitioning
On May 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: > notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if > disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two The zpool mirror does not mirror the bootblock. You need to manually add that to all the drives you may want to boot from. > pool: tank > state: ONLINE > scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h0m with 0 errors on Sat May 11 13:20:41 2013 > config: > >NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM >tankONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da34p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da35p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > errors: No known data errors -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS partitioning
notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two pool: tank state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h0m with 0 errors on Sat May 11 13:20:41 2013 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM tankONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 da34p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 da35p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Terje Elde wrote: > On 12. mai 2013, at 15:21, Roland van Laar wrote: > > > I see that all the disks get the same partitions, including swap and > boot? > > Why is that? And do I need those 5 boot and swap partitions? > > You don't need them, but there's a good chance you'll want them. > > Long story, short version: with raidz and mirror, you survive the loss of > a disk. If you put boot on one, and that's the disk you loose, you're up > shit creek, having chosen not to bring a paddle. ;) > > It's also not a lot to loose by putting it on all of them. > > For swap, there's also performance-reasons. > > Terje > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS partitioning
On 12. mai 2013, at 15:21, Roland van Laar wrote: > I see that all the disks get the same partitions, including swap and boot? > Why is that? And do I need those 5 boot and swap partitions? You don't need them, but there's a good chance you'll want them. Long story, short version: with raidz and mirror, you survive the loss of a disk. If you put boot on one, and that's the disk you loose, you're up shit creek, having chosen not to bring a paddle. ;) It's also not a lot to loose by putting it on all of them. For swap, there's also performance-reasons. Terje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
ZFS partitioning
Hello, I'm following the raidz[1] and mirror[2] guides for a ZFS root. For a test installation on a 5 disk Virtualbox environment. I see that all the disks get the same partitions, including swap and boot? Why is that? And do I need those 5 boot and swap partitions? Thank you for your time, Rolad [1]https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/RAIDZ1 [2]https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Can I avoid the display of pkg-messages in portmaster?
On 05/12/2013 12:37 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > I do some work on remote machines and sometimes I have a need to execute > additional commands after for example a portmaster -a command. > > Normally I use the "&&" to separate commands but this does not work when > portmaster displays pkg-messages. > > I cannot see in the portmaster manpage that there's a possibility to > make the choice on displaying pkg-messages. > > Maybe a suggestion to further enhance portmaster in the future. > > To work around this I was thinking of maybe making a script that ran > > portmaster -a then a command to "press space" until one is sure that all > messages has been displayed. > > On this I could need some help. My scripting skills are not that good. To avoid interaction when scripting or logging portmaster, in addition to the --no-confirm option, I usually set the following environment variables prior to invocation: BATCH=yes PAGER=cat The former should avoid any build-time port interaction (and mark the port BROKEN if it must, so I can deal with it manually); the latter causes portmaster to use 'cat' instead of 'more' to display the pkg-messages afterwards. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS on MBR does not boot at all
Le dimanche 5 mai 2013 22:20:43 Giorgos Keramidas a écrit : > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:29:18 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > > 2013/4/18 David Demelier : > >> Hello, > >> I would like to use ZFS over MBR for multiboot purposes. I've followed > >> that guide https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition but it > >> does not boot at all. The loader does not show up after choosing > >> FreeBSD in the boot0 loader. > >> > >> The _ prompt appears but nothing starts. I've found many people over > >> the web having the same problem but unfortunately no one found a > >> solution. > >> > >> I think the offensive commands are ones with dd and zfsboot. > >> Regards, > > > > So someone told me on IRC that the main problem was that I've put my > > partition swap as first partition in the FreeBSD slice and zfsboot > > *requires* that the zfs partition is the first. > > > > Can someone with right access to the wiki page may add a notice about > > this issue on https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition > > please? > > Hi David, > > Thanks for following up with what the real problem was. I updated the > Wiki to include this: > > Note that partition order is important. It seems that zfsboot > requires the freebsd-zfs partition to be the first, so make sure you > add if first, before your swap partition. Thank you :) Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: List Spam Filtering
1. Restricting mailing lists to "subscribers only" has been a best practice since the last century. It's a very good anti-spam tactic. 2. However, doing so -- for a list run via Mailman, like this one -- does not pose a significant impediment for non-subscribers. By default, Mailman will hold traffic from non-subscribers for list-owner approval. Provided the list-owners check that queue periodically and have reasonable spam-spotting abilities, this works beautifully. 3. Note that Mailman, as part of that same mechanism, allows list-owners to add non-subscribers to a list of those permitted to send traffic to the list without approval. This feature is probably more often used to allow traffic from alternative addresses for subscribers, e.g., someone is subscribed as f...@example.com but sends occasionally from f...@example.net. But it can just as easily be used for non-subscribers if the list-owners so choose. 4. List-owners may also find it useful to keep track of which spammers repeatedly attempt to abuse the list and block them at the MTA -- which has the desirable side effect of blocking them from ALL lists. I do this on a user/host/domain/network basis, and it's proven itself to be worth the effort. So: setting the "subscribers-only" flag on Mailman has major advantages, at the cost of additional work on the part of list-owners -- which can be mitigated in part across all lists by making changes to the MTA. ---rsk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: with ACPI=on, 9.1-RELEASE shutdown automatically
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 01:03:45PM +0200, Eduardo Morras wrote: Hi Eduardo, > On Fri, 10 May 2013 12:34:14 +0200 > Xavier wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > > About this email subject, on acer Aspire 5634WLMi machine and > > 9.1-RELEASE OS, FreeBSD shutdown the machine automatically in few > > minuts. > > In freebsd-es a similar problem was reported some months ago. The cause is > fan switch off after startup menu and rising temperature. It looks like ec > controller problem (Acer doesn't provide documentation about Embedded > Controller, all is done by try and error and can damage the laptop) Yes, is the same situation. I don't solved the problem. For this reason I post here now. And, I wait a long time for try new situations and not crossposting the problem in other mailing list. > > > How can I debug the reason of the problem ? > > A not so good wokaround is down the temperature where cpu Hz is adjusted: > > #sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=1 > #sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV=65C > #sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=0 > First of all, I load the correct ACPI mapping driver for acer laptops ( this situation ): acpi_wmi(4) root@casa:/root # kldstat | grep acpi 41 0xc13dd000 462c acpi_wmi.ko root@casa:/root # Now I try yours values: First, de defaults values: root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.user_override hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV: 95,0C root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.user_override hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 root@casa:/root # I change to your suggerations: root@casa:/root # sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=1 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 -> 1 root@casa:/root # sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV=65C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: -1 -> 65,0C root@casa:/root # sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV=65C hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV: 95,0C -> 65,0C root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.user_override hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 1 root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 65,0C root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV hw.acpi.thermal.tz1._PSV: 65,0C root@casa:/root # I look for the temperature at the moment: root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep temperature acpi_tz1: temperature 67.0C: decreasing clock speed from 500 MHz to 250 MHz acpi_tz1: temperature 67.0C: decreasing clock speed from 250 MHz to 125 MHz hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 73,0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 72,0C dev.cpu.0.temperature: 75,0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 75,0C root@casa:/root # I try compile one port ... : ... while compile I look the temperature: root@casa:/root # sysctl -a | grep temperature acpi_tz1: temperature 67.0C: decreasing clock speed from 500 MHz to 250 MHz acpi_tz1: temperature 67.0C: decreasing clock speed from 250 MHz to 125 MHz hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 95,0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 94,0C dev.cpu.0.temperature: 92,0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 92,0C root@casa:/root # I break the compilation because if hw.acpi.thermal.tz%d.temperature ( of ACPI_THERMAL(4) ) = 100C the FreeBSD shutdown automacally. > Or downgrade to 8.x > On 8.x I get the same problem. Thanks, see you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: List Spam Filtering
On Sun, 12 May 2013 07:39:31 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith articulated: > On Sat, 11 May 2013 19:44:46 +0200 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > Hi, > > "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > > > On Thu, 09 May 2013 02:26:26 +0200 > > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > > > > > If list write access was changed to Subscribers Only: > > > > - List could silently discard such spam. > > > > - Postmaster@ (& webmaster@ weeding web archives) would have > > > > less work. > > > > - Less individual need to select spam phrases to copy to > > > > personal filters (& less time searching WTF dialect American > > > > above meant in English ;-). > > > > > > The downside is that it would require people to subscribe > > > in order to ask a question, > > > > True. I suggest the up side outweighs the down side though. > > From the point of view of subscribers perhaps, however from > the point of view of users who don't wish to subscribe in order to > ask a single question it is the other way round. I am not really a big fan of paying for a hunting license since I only hunt once a year; however, they still make me do it. As a POC earlier this year, I subscribed to this list under a different name & address, returned to my MUA and the responding message from this list was waiting. I replied to it and was there upon subscribed. Total time, less than 1-1/2 minutes. And that included me taking a sip of coffee. The time to remove myself from the list was similar. Hell, it takes me longer than that to gather all of the info I might need to either ask or respond to a question on this list. > > > this is also the reason for the convention of using > > > "Reply to all" in FreeBSD mailing lists. It's been a convention > > > for a *long* time, at least since FreeBSD 1.1 was shiny and new > > > in 1993. > > > > I'm not intending to question or suggest any change re CC behaviour. > > (Maybe you mis-read or mis-infered what I intended, > > Not at all, just pointing out that the two things have a > common reason in the FreeBSD lists. Personally I doubt that either > will change any time soon. > > >or maybe I mis-wrote, or mis-implied, whatever, please forget > > that bit, though as background I'd observe: > > Questions@ didn't exist for quite a while after FreeBSD > > started, Hackers@ & some others preceded it. > > A good many others indeed - but all the "user" lists have > always had the same conventions. > > > Various people prune CC when they get littered with too > > many CC. ) I never respond to CC'ers. If they cannot take the time to subscribe, I cannot afford the time to respond. > True enough - and occasionally this loses the unsubscribed OP. Perhaps our list should include a disclaimer (I hate them) that states: WARNING: CC ARE YOUR OWN RISK Actually, I think this is kind of funn: From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Technically, I am responding to a CC'er who happens to be the list operator/owner or whatever terminology turns you on. My sieve filters are designed to filter out an CC messages; however, they are also designed to accept any mail from FreeBSD*. Since I was not in the CC address (directly), I ended up getting a CC'd mesage. I really have to rework my filters. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: compatibility SCO (fwd)
Hi, cc questions@ was dropped so restoring Forwarded from: "Julian Stacey" http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/ --- Forwarded Message >From gri...@goldnet.it Sun May 12 09:15:13 2013 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 09:12:53 +0200 From: grillo To: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: compatibility SCO In-Reply-To: <201305112344.r4bnimxd072...@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201305112344.r4bnimxd072...@fire.js.berklix.net> On Sun, 12 May 2013 01:44:22 +0200, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > grillo wrote: >> I need use Microsoft Cobol Compiler and runtime developed for >> Xenix/Unix system V SCO using NETBSD or FreeBSD, it is possible? have >> binary compatibility ? environment compatibility ? >> thank you > > A long time since I looked at this, but as no one else answered yet, > hints to look for, & maybe somebody'll correct it & post more useful info ;-) > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html > > & kernel options > options "IBCS2" /* SCO a.out emulation */ > options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory /*for X11R6 */ > options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues > options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores > > I recall when I last did cross OS work way back I needed a > raft of include files & libs & custom or special version of ar etc. > Which brings up questions of Copyright, depending what you'r doing > (I'm not asking, your business & decision, I don't want to know about SCO !). > > The newer way might be to run SCO inside a virtual environment > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/virtualization-host.html > > BTW If you're doomed to run SCO, get hold of a SCO Skunkware CD, > issued by SCO, free) full of FSF & PD etc tools to make raw SCO > less annoying. > > You should search this archive: > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation > & probably susbscribe & ask there. > > IMO you'll probably have better luck with FreeBSD than NetBSD for this, > (not will certainly, just probably at my guess, for this topic ;-) > > Cheers, > Julian Thank-you I wish to use the compiler Microfocus cobol/2 writen for Unix compatible with Sco Xenix and Sco OpenServer, it generate a intermediate code that run win RUNTIME COBOL, the problem is where must be install the cobol library for compilation and runtime environment, and what terminfo to use; if I use a virtual environment I work like now with no possibility to extra periferal and external drive --- End of Forwarded Message ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
OT, i think...
guys,
if goog had their browser from BSD it would help big-time; I use one of the
zillions of linux distros for my desktop. I dont have a bleeding edge
cell. just something to call the cops or "access" [ small bus with wchair
lift.] only have one hand, so cant easily hold cell and "type" blah * 3.
SO, the upshot is, since I use firefox mostly, and chrome, rarely, I got a
bit befuddled tonight trying to read an old philosopher's translation on
chrome. I got to fess-up. reading on the screen is vastly easier than
getting out a REAL book and paperweights, and taking off my eyeglasses,
&C! tonight, I figured out howto enlarge the font and bring up the book.
--i read "the prince" by nick whatever. this on google's browser. it
took awhile before I realized that I wasnt hearing the words! yes, the
speaker in the circle [[upper right]] read aloud and I could glean
that much more by reading with eyes and ears. ===but=== is there some
magic I ca n use to do an "All", and then fire off the text-to-voice?
[[[the following is interesting only if you're into art schopenhauer.
his works were not correctly xlated until {i think} 1954. I bought the
p'back of his *Parerga and Paralipomena: A Collection of Philosophical
Essays*. I never read it. google has it, and I suppose I could cough pup
$whatever. but only if they got their tts stuff working without me having to
mouse 600+ pages or whatever it requires. ]]]
anybody know howto make this All menu cmd work in chrome? in ffox, it's
a simple edit->control-A
thanks much,
gary
--
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix
Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
