Re: to gmirror or to ZFS
But then zfs doesn't access every block on the disk does it, only the allocated ones On 20 July 2013 21:07, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:14:20 +0100 Frank Leonhardt fra...@fjl.co.uk wrote: It's worth noting, as a warning for anyone who hasn't been there, that the number of times a second drive in a RAID system fails during a rebuild is higher than would be expected. During a rebuild the remaining drives get thrashed, hot, and if they're on the edge, that's when they're going to go. And at the most inconvenient time. Okay - obvious when you think about it, but this tends to be too late. Having the cabinet stuffed full of nominally identical drives bought at the same time from the same supplier tends to add to the probability that more than one drive is on the edge when one goes. It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. Often this is presummed to be the reason for double failures close in time, also common mode failures such as environment, a defective power supply or excess voltage can be blamed. I have to think that the most common cause for a second failure soon after the first is that a failed drive often isn't detected until a particular sector is read or written. Since the resilvering reads and writes every sector on multiple disks, including unused sectors, it can detect latent problems that may have existed since the drive was new but which haven't been used for data yet, or have gone bad since the last write, but haven't been read since. The ZFS scrub processes only sectors with data, so it provides only partial protection against double failures. Daniel Feenberg NBER -- Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: to gmirror or to ZFS
On 21/07/2013 17:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:13:39 +0930 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: On 21/07/2013 04:42, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It's a pity there are now only two manufacturers of spinning rust. I thought there was three left - Seagate WD and Toshiba I assumed Toshiba were out of the game, I've never seen anything bigger than 500GB with a Toshiba label. I have a 2.5 1TB Toshiba USB drive here. I see Toshiba 2 and 3TB 3.5 listed online. As I recall the Hitachi selloff - WD got the 2.5 Toshiba got the 3.5 I think the split was the only way to get the takeover approved. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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I am having a problem updating some ports since installing the print/texlive-full port a few days ago. I have: TEX_DEFAULT=texlive sans quotes at the top of my /etc/make.conf file. For instance, the en-freebsd-doc-42326,1, and in fact all of the *-freebsd-doc ports are refusing to build. This is from the build log: env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=en-freebsd-doc-42095,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=42095,1 make clean === Cleaning for docproj-1.17_13 === Cleaning for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 === Cleaning for latex-cjk-4.8.2_6 === Cleaning for freetype-tools-1.3.1_9 === Cleaning for en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=en-freebsd-doc-42095,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=42095,1 make === Found saved configuration for en-freebsd-doc-40771_1,1 === Fetching all distfiles required by en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 for building === Extracting for en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 = SHA256 Checksum OK for freebsd-doc-42326.tar.gz. === Patching for en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 === en-freebsd-doc-42326,1 depends on package: docproj=1.17 - not found ===Verifying install for docproj=1.17 in /usr/ports/textproc/docproj === Found saved configuration for docproj-1.17_12 === Fetching all distfiles required by docproj-1.17_13 for building === Extracting for docproj-1.17_13 === Patching for docproj-1.17_13 === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: dvips - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: jadetex - found === Configuring for docproj-1.17_13 === Installing for docproj-1.17_13 === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: fixrtf - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: links - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: pngtopnm - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: scr2png - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: scr2txt - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: xsltproc - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: peps - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879 - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xml/dtd/xhtml/xhtml.soc - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xsl/docbook/html/docbook.xsl - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xsl/iso-schematron/xslt1/iso_schematron_skeleton_for_xslt1.xsl - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xml/docbook/4.5/docbookx.dtd - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xsl/docbook/html/docbook.xsl - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xsl/iso-schematron/xslt1/iso_schematron_skeleton_for_xslt1.xsl - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xml/docbook/4.5/docbookx.dtd - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on file: /usr/local/share/xml/xmlcharent/catalog - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on package: p5-XML-Parser=2.41 - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: zip - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: svn - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: igor - found === docproj-1.17_13 depends on executable: cjktexsty - not found ===Verifying install for cjktexsty in /usr/ports/chinese/docproj === Fetching all distfiles required by zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 for building === Extracting for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 === Fetching all distfiles required by zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 for building === Patching for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 === zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found === Configuring for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 === Building for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 === cjktexsty (all) Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/chinese/docproj/work/src/cjktexsty lex -t cjktexsty.l cjktexsty.c cc -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing -march=athlon64 -I/usr/local/include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -c cjktexsty.c cc -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing -march=athlon64 -I/usr/local/include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -o cjktexsty cjktexsty.o -L/usr/local/lib -liconv === Installing for zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 === zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_6 depends on executable: gbklatex - not found ===Verifying install for gbklatex in /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk === latex-cjk-4.8.2_6 conflicts with installed package(s): tex-kpathsea-6.1.0_2 tex-web2c-20120701_2 They install files into the same place. You may want to stop build with Ctrl + C. At that point the build continues until the following: gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall -pedantic -I./../../lib -I/usr/local/include -I. -DHAVE_LIBKPATHSEA=1 -DHAVE_LIBM=1 -DHAVE_LIBINTL=1 errormsg.c gcc -c -g -O2 -Wall -pedantic -I./../../lib -I/usr/local/include -I. -DHAVE_LIBKPATHSEA=1 -DHAVE_LIBM=1 -DHAVE_LIBINTL=1 filesrch.c filesrch.c:39: error: conflicting types for 'kpathsea_version_string'
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Re: vBSDcon Website Update
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Re: vBSDcon Website Update
I just checked it out. Seems to be up for me...
On Monday, July 22, 2013, Виталий Туровец wrote:
The site seems down from here (AS58054).
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updated to include a detailed schedule and speaker line-up including
descriptions of their presentations. Registrations will begin in the
coming month. Please feel free to check it out at
http://www.vbsdcon.com/.
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Re[2]: vBSDcon Website Update
It's down for me too.
Also down according to: http://isup.me/vbsdcon.com
...Fish
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I just checked it out. Seems to be up for me...
On Monday, July 22, 2013, Виталий Туровец wrote:
The site seems down from here (AS58054).
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coming month. Please feel free to check it out at
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Re[3]: vBSDcon Website Update
Weird, now it's up.
...Fish
Вторник, 23 июля 2013, 2:52 +04:00 от Fish Kungfu fish.kun...@mail.ru:
It's down for me too.
Also down according to: http://isup.me/vbsdcon.com
...Fish
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vmil...@hostileadmin.com :
I just checked it out. Seems to be up for me...
On Monday, July 22, 2013, Виталий Туровец wrote:
The site seems down from here (AS58054).
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Re: Re[3]: vBSDcon Website Update
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