Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?
A bit of reading shows that ZFS, if it's stable enough, has some really great features that would be nice on such a large pile o' drives. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my ignorance) is if you need to use hardware RAID at all? It seems both UFS2 and ZFS can do software RAID which seems to be quite reasonable with respect to performance and in many ways seems to be more robust since it is a bit more portable (no specialized hardware). I've thought about this one a lot. In my case, the hard drives are in a separate enclosure from the server and the two had to be connected via SAS cables. The 9690SA-8E card was the best choice I could find for accessing an external SAS enclosure with support for 8 drives. I could configure it in JBOD mode and then use software to create a RAID array. In fact, I will likely do this to compare performance of a hardware vs. software RAID5 solution. The ZFS RAID-Z option does not appeal to me, because the read performance does not benefit from additional drives, and I don't think RAID6 is available in software. For those reasons I'm leaning toward a hardware implementation. Hi Maxim, RAID-Z2 is the RAID6 double parity option in ZFS. gr Arno I'm planning on doing something like this once I get 2 more 1TB drives. I'm going to try out a zfs RAID-Z not RAID-Z2, but yeah. I've been around openSolaris' docs on zfs it seems to be really robust, you can export it on one OS and import it on another (incase your root dies, or you want to migrate your disks to another box), you can take snapshots which are stored on the drive, but I'm sure you could send those files somewhere to be backed up. And if you have really important files you can create multiple copies of them automatically with ZFS. If you set it up with multiple vdevs, you can get a lot more speed out of disk I/O as well, because if you have like 2 raidz vdevs, it stripes them, so you can pull data faster from both. I can't remember if it was on this or another list, but there was a great discussion about the performance abilities/issues of zfs they had some good points like not using more than 8 drives per vdev such. If you search this, the hardware list, or hackers list I'm sure it'll pop up. Try it out both ways and see which is best. there are pro's con's to both, but it all depends on what you need for your solution. Cheers, Bucky ...whoops sent this as a reply to the digest w/o changing the name. I hope it finds the right person now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 267, Issue 3
A bit of reading shows that ZFS, if it's stable enough, has some really great features that would be nice on such a large pile o' drives. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my ignorance) is if you need to use hardware RAID at all? It seems both UFS2 and ZFS can do software RAID which seems to be quite reasonable with respect to performance and in many ways seems to be more robust since it is a bit more portable (no specialized hardware). I've thought about this one a lot. In my case, the hard drives are in a separate enclosure from the server and the two had to be connected via SAS cables. The 9690SA-8E card was the best choice I could find for accessing an external SAS enclosure with support for 8 drives. I could configure it in JBOD mode and then use software to create a RAID array. In fact, I will likely do this to compare performance of a hardware vs. software RAID5 solution. The ZFS RAID-Z option does not appeal to me, because the read performance does not benefit from additional drives, and I don't think RAID6 is available in software. For those reasons I'm leaning toward a hardware implementation. Hi Maxim, RAID-Z2 is the RAID6 double parity option in ZFS. gr Arno I'm planning on doing something like this once I get 2 more 1TB drives. I'm going to try out a zfs RAID-Z not RAID-Z2, but yeah. I've been around openSolaris' docs on zfs it seems to be really robust, you can export it on one OS and import it on another (incase your root dies, or you want to migrate your disks to another box), you can take snapshots which are stored on the drive, but I'm sure you could send those files somewhere to be backed up. And if you have really important files you can create multiple copies of them automatically with ZFS. If you set it up with multiple vdevs, you can get a lot more speed out of disk I/O as well, because if you have like 2 raidz vdevs, it stripes them, so you can pull data faster from both. I can't remember if it was on this or another list, but there was a great discussion about the performance abilities/issues of zfs they had some good points like not using more than 8 drives per vdev such. Try it out both ways and see which is best. there are pro's con's to both, but it all depends on what you need for your solution. remember raid is not a form of back-up. so if this is for critical information, make sure you back-up as well. Cheers, Bucky ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
