where to get the release notes for 9.2
There is a specific feature I need to see if it is in 9.2 or just 10 where can I find the draft release notes for 9.2? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
java/icetea-web broken?
I install it (on a machine that it used to work on until I had to reinstall FB) and there is none of the normal command line tools and when I attempt to open a jnlp file in ff (21.0) java/icetea-web (1.4) it goes into an infinite loop of opening new blank tabs the site in question works perfectly on pre-21.0 and/or 1.4 and on all other OS's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
stupid portmaster question
How do I tell portmaster -ad to ignore certain ports because they are broken such as editors/libreoffice is currently marked as (I am sure this will change soon) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
an upto date list of new ports
is there a site or other location that lists *NEW* (not updated) ports since a given date? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
i386 vs. amd64
Ever since 8.X (my system is now 9.1-RC3 [done via csup]) been using i386 with the following main ports: x11-wm/xfce4 www/firefox www/linux-f10-flashplugin11 editors/libreoffice www/tomcat-7 www/apace22 devel/aegis (I am the maintainer) devel/fhist devel/cook java/openjdk6 emulation/virtualbox-ose (and additions) print/cups I have avoided amd64 in the past due to some or not all them working, but want to switch if possible because PAE seems to be broken now on i386. So I have the following questions: 1. Will all the above ports (and their dependencies) work on amd64? 2. Is there any way to do a in place switch to amd64 or do I need to rebuild the system from the ground up? 3. In general is amd64 now as capable of handling ports and such as well as i386 does? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
switching from i386 to amd64
I have been using i386 (-STABLE) for years now and was wondering if switching to amd64 finally makes sense (i.e. are enough ports working on it now [xfrce4, firefox, libreoffice, openjdk-6, tomcat, mysql, apache22, flash, cups, devel/aegis, devel/cook, devel/fhist, virtualbox-ose, nvidia-kmod are the minimal ones I need]) the main reason for asking is PAE seems to be broken now and virtualbox-ose refuses to let me install 64 bit OS's like Win 8. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: video acceleration on vbox
What port do I find them in? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > >> I have installed win 7 as a guest on emulator/virtualbox-ose on my 9.0-RC1 >> (i386) machine and no matter what I set the video acceleration to it gives >> me nothing but "standard VGA" in win 7 (even after downloading the driver >> from nvidia) I am using x11/nvidia-driver under xfce4 on the FB side > > > You have to install the guest additions for windows. It used to be better > to boot the guest into safe mode to install them. > > -- > Adam Vande More > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
video acceleration on vbox
I have installed win 7 as a guest on emulator/virtualbox-ose on my 9.0-RC1 (i386) machine and no matter what I set the video acceleration to it gives me nothing but "standard VGA" in win 7 (even after downloading the driver from nvidia) I am using x11/nvidia-driver under xfce4 on the FB side ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
a portmaster/ports question
Is there any way to get portmaster to reinstall every port in the *EXACT* same order they where installed in, preferably with out any knowledge of what ports where installed after the current one was the reason for asking is many times it seems that subtle incompatibilities solely due to either the order of upgrades in -ad and/or when a port gets updated autoconfig picks up stuff non-dependant ports that where installed later... a good example of the second is gettext compiles with java support if you reinstall after installing Java but does not do so if installing before you install it ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Spencer Thompson < spencer.s.thomp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear FreeBSD.org, > > I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the > best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the > manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. > Download the 8.2-RELEASE dvd > > What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? > Or > is there an alternate meaning? > It means many things including free of charge... it also means the freedom to modify, etc. > > I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why > is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something > stupid. > What OS is best for a particular person depends on the applications you need to run > Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? > That's all I need. > What specific applications do you have in mind? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to turn off screen blanking
Thanks!!! will tell you the results (yes it is a browser only thing... boot into ff to a specific URL and dial out via a 3g USB wireless modem [the second part took over 2 weeks of fiddling to get all three brands of modems that will be used in production to work]) On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 04:04:42PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > > I have a kiosk system I am almost done building and the last snag is > > attempting to make it so idle time (no keyboard or mouse attached) does > not > > blank the screen. I have already tried the following: > > > > vidcontrol -S off > > disabling acpi and apmd from the kernel config > > enabling dpms via the kernel config and then running xset -dpms > > > > Any other ideas? > > IIRC your kiosk machine is just a browser running on X. > > In that case, make sure dpms is enabled and try: > > $ xset dpms 0 0 0 > > That should disable any blanking. > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
How to turn off screen blanking
I have a kiosk system I am almost done building and the last snag is attempting to make it so idle time (no keyboard or mouse attached) does not blank the screen. I have already tried the following: vidcontrol -S off disabling acpi and apmd from the kernel config enabling dpms via the kernel config and then running xset -dpms Any other ideas? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
baffled on how to get packages onto the disc image of a custom release
I have been banging my head for almost a day now about how to get "make release" (or make iso.1 or package-split) to populate releaase/R/cdrom/* (actually I only care about dvd1 for now) and am totally lost on how to go from having a valid package list (and split) in /usr/ports/package to having it on the dvd... the only thing I know for sure there is some magic that happens before making release/R/stage abd release/R/cdrom/* in which a install script and tar are made (I think) and this means I need to put packages where?!?!?!? to get any of the make targets to make the script and tar? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
re: skype
Still no video here is the output of the command that the UPDATE
entery says to run (notice that I have a copy of 8.2 that is less then
a week old):
FreeBSD aryeh 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #7: Sun Jul 17 19:39:35
EDT 2011 root@aryeh:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
compat.linux.oss_version: 198144
compat.linux.osrelease: 2.6.16
# pcm-oss plugin configuration
pcm.oss {
type oss
device /dev/dsp
hint {
description "Open Sound System"
}
}
ctl.oss {
type oss
device /dev/mixer
hint {
description "Open Sound System"
}
}
-- Forwarded message --
From: Frank Shute
Date: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: skype
To: Aryeh Friedman
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 06:16:28AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>
> I have a number of clients that prefer Skype over IM last time I
> tried to build it from ports I was unable to get to anywhere past the
> account login page (no matter what I tried it said it could not log me
> in and when I registered for an account it never registered)
It works for me. See:
20110516
in /usr/ports/UPDATING
Regards,
--
Frank
Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
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Fwd: skype
-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:43 AM Subject: Re: skype To: claudiu vasadi not quiet webcamd sees my webcam but not skype On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:42 AM, claudiu vasadi wrote: > Try it now. It works > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
skype
I have a number of clients that prefer Skype over IM last time I tried to build it from ports I was unable to get to anywhere past the account login page (no matter what I tried it said it could not log me in and when I registered for an account it never registered) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Fwd: make release question
-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:35 PM Subject: Re: make release question To: Nathan Whitehorn On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > found them in CHROOT/R and found I needed to do mkisofs on them to get the > image oops forgot to ask should I use cdrom/dvd1 or ftp to make a bootable USB drive > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: >> On 07/21/11 10:42, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>> >>> Where does "make release" place the disk images (iso's) by default >>> ___ >>> freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> >> On -CURRENT, it places them in /usr/obj/usr/src/release. You can use make >> install DESTDIR=blah to put them somewhere else. On 8.x and earlier it >> places them in CHROOT/R. >> -Nathan >> > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
make release question
Where does "make release" place the disk images (iso's) by default ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
best way to replicate system
I have set up a machine that is 100% configred and now needs to be duplicated to an arbitrary number of other machines (23 currently)... none of the machines have optical drives (or floppies) so it has to be a USB install... what is the best way to do this all I can think of is "make release" or make a diskimage and dd it ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Fwd: best way to force a single packet to be sent via a specific interface
-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:00 AM Subject: best way to force a single packet to be sent via a specific interface To: FreeBSD Mailing List I have both ethernet (the default route and such) and ppp done via "ppp -ddial" the man page for ppp(8) says tun0 will not have an IP assigned until a single packet is sent on it... what is the best way to have one packet sent on it (ping only always ifaces on multicast, traceroute seems to have no way to say exit after the first hop and/or after one packet is sent, tcpdump refuses a "-c 0" arg saying it is illegal) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
best way to force a single packet to be sent via a specific interface
I have both ethernet (the default route and such) and ppp done via "ppp -ddial" the man page for ppp(8) says tun0 will not have an IP assigned until a single packet is sent on it... what is the best way to have one packet sent on it (ping only always ifaces on multicast, traceroute seems to have no way to say exit after the first hop and/or after one packet is sent, tcpdump refuses a "-c 0" arg saying it is illegal) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Just a side note I am the managing partner in a software development firm and they *ONLY* reason we have not released the majority of our internal lib is because we are essentially giving something of huge value (to us) up for nothing in return but if there was money involved to compensate for the time and effort we put into writing the lib we would gladly contribute it to any deserving project. But, sadly since we live and die as consultants by having a unique competitive advantage (in this case a lib that adds commercial value to our work by completing projects faster). On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 >> C. Bergström articulated: >> >>> I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as >>> they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) >> >> Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing fully >> functional wireless drivers as opposed to simply bumping the major >> version number every 18 months +/-. I have two new laptops ion front of >> me that I cannot use FBSD on simply because they don't support the >> wireless (N class obviously) installed in them. >> >> I simply refuse to purchase a machine to accommodate an OS; nor will I >> attempt to change the wireless network card/chip for the same reason. >> >> OK, now the usual group of "blame the manufacturers", blame Microsoft", >> blame everyone else for the problem are free to chime in. I was >> seriously considering hiring a professional programmer to write drivers >> for devices for me; however, it was then I remembers something I >> learned in business school, class 101. I weighted the cost of >> developing the drivers as opposed to simply purchasing an OS that all >> ready had those drivers readily available. Guess which was "many" times >> cheaper? Cost analyses proved that developing my own drivers was not >> cost effective. >> >> I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start >> a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that >> either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable >> of writing. Other OS's are currently working on that model. No one >> would be forced to contribute. This would prove beneficial to everyone >> and should satisfy both capitalist who don't mind paying for quality >> products and socialist like Poly who want everything for nothing. It >> would be a win-win situation. >> >> With the advent of the next version of FBSD soon to be upon us, >> this would be a propitious moment to start such a project. FBSD has >> never been considered a dreadnought in the driver development field and >> this might work to change that. At the very least, it would >> create a brouhaha among others although the pigeon-livered average >> FreeBSD user would probably abstain from support this project either >> from a lack of need or indifference to others or basic socialist/fascist >> concepts. > > The issue your talking about is actually caused by a fundamental flaw > in *ALL* pure open source projects namely in return for the freedom to > look at the code and stuff we give up market forces. If there where > real market forces then *SOMEONE* in the larger freebsd community > would find it profitable to write such drivers (and other needed > unglamorous but necessary tasks). A model I proposed (with about 3 > others from different FOSS backgrounds) a few years ago is still as > relivent now as it was then despite the lack of reconition that it > allows for all the freedoms of open source but without the neglecting > of user demands (i.e. market forces). The model is actually really > simple: the source code is freely available to *ANYONE* for > study/research/evaluation/educational *BUT* the minute you compile it > becomes economically valuable to the user (assuming that there is no > value to the above free uses [it is not a bad assumption if you look > at it]) and thus *MUST* be paid for. Now the one small twist this > has over any other model is that with basic (but careful) planning it > always for anyone who has contributed to get their fair share of any > revenue. Think of it as the idea that everyone must contribute to > the project either with money and/or work to improve it (let their own > enlightened self interest dictate what mix they choose). The only > legal hurdle to this is that the OSD definition of open source does > not allow for licenses to "descriminate" between classes of users > (people who only read the source code but do not use it and those that > do use it). > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 > C. Bergström articulated: > >> I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as >> they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) > > Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing fully > functional wireless drivers as opposed to simply bumping the major > version number every 18 months +/-. I have two new laptops ion front of > me that I cannot use FBSD on simply because they don't support the > wireless (N class obviously) installed in them. > > I simply refuse to purchase a machine to accommodate an OS; nor will I > attempt to change the wireless network card/chip for the same reason. > > OK, now the usual group of "blame the manufacturers", blame Microsoft", > blame everyone else for the problem are free to chime in. I was > seriously considering hiring a professional programmer to write drivers > for devices for me; however, it was then I remembers something I > learned in business school, class 101. I weighted the cost of > developing the drivers as opposed to simply purchasing an OS that all > ready had those drivers readily available. Guess which was "many" times > cheaper? Cost analyses proved that developing my own drivers was not > cost effective. > > I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start > a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that > either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable > of writing. Other OS's are currently working on that model. No one > would be forced to contribute. This would prove beneficial to everyone > and should satisfy both capitalist who don't mind paying for quality > products and socialist like Poly who want everything for nothing. It > would be a win-win situation. > > With the advent of the next version of FBSD soon to be upon us, > this would be a propitious moment to start such a project. FBSD has > never been considered a dreadnought in the driver development field and > this might work to change that. At the very least, it would > create a brouhaha among others although the pigeon-livered average > FreeBSD user would probably abstain from support this project either > from a lack of need or indifference to others or basic socialist/fascist > concepts. The issue your talking about is actually caused by a fundamental flaw in *ALL* pure open source projects namely in return for the freedom to look at the code and stuff we give up market forces.If there where real market forces then *SOMEONE* in the larger freebsd community would find it profitable to write such drivers (and other needed unglamorous but necessary tasks).A model I proposed (with about 3 others from different FOSS backgrounds) a few years ago is still as relivent now as it was then despite the lack of reconition that it allows for all the freedoms of open source but without the neglecting of user demands (i.e. market forces). The model is actually really simple: the source code is freely available to *ANYONE* for study/research/evaluation/educational *BUT* the minute you compile it becomes economically valuable to the user (assuming that there is no value to the above free uses [it is not a bad assumption if you look at it]) and thus *MUST* be paid for. Now the one small twist this has over any other model is that with basic (but careful) planning it always for anyone who has contributed to get their fair share of any revenue.Think of it as the idea that everyone must contribute to the project either with money and/or work to improve it (let their own enlightened self interest dictate what mix they choose). The only legal hurdle to this is that the OSD definition of open source does not allow for licenses to "descriminate" between classes of users (people who only read the source code but do not use it and those that do use it). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Fwd: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:16 AM Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore To: per...@pluto.rain.com That is the approach I am taking... RS's recommendation was we make a disk image to overwrite the existing linux image with (i.e. install linux and then overwrite it with the image) and from the console config GRUB to boot it On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:01 AM, wrote: > Outback Dingo wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo >> > wrote: >> >> ... Name one cloud provider providing FreeBSD 8x or 9X to run >> >> as instances. I know of one coming... question is are there >> >> others >> > >> > There are plenty already. Rootbsd for one, among others ... >> >> Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not "cloud" based >> per se, as there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted >> RootBSD is nice but on demand expansion of memory, cpu and disk >> under ones control is more what i would describe as FreeBSD in >> the cloud, > > Perhaps a Linux cloud instance can be depenguinated? > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
I am working on making a general purpose image for XEN (specifically for rack space but since it is a common framework attempting to make it vendor neutral) On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More > wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: >> >>> and cloud computing instances anyway, Name one cloud provider providing >>> FreeBSD 8x or 9X >>> to run as instances. I know of one coming... question is are there >>> others >>> >> >> There are plenty already. Rootbsd for one, among others. Also there >> wouldn't be any supporting FBSD 9 since it's not released yet. >> > > Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not "cloud" based per se, as > there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice > but on demand expansion of memory, cpu and disk under ones control is more > what i would describe as FreeBSD in the cloud, > > >> -- >> Adam Vande More >> > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
how to force a hard reboot remotely
Is there any way to force a complete power down and then reset of a i386 without physically being present? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: boting straight into firefox
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 01:30:32 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >> I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? Would a more minimal (but still GUI) >> >> browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? >> > >> > Maybe it's worth considering that in case the menu bar, >> > navigation bar and all the other (mostly nonsense) bars >> > of web browsers are not needed for the purpose described >> > above. >> >> It is a client requirement. The client is replacing a windows based >> solution with FreeBSD and for what ever reasons all the sites that >> need to be displayed are specific to ff (the use features only found >> in it or IE 9). > > Okay, understandable. In this case your choice is limited, > but that shouldn't be a big problem. Just see how firefox > can be brought into fullscreen mode, either by one of its > own options, or by using the generic -geometry option as > shown in the "dillo" example. > > firefox -width 1024 -height 768 > > But "firefox -help" doesn't show parameters for positioning, > and also by pressing PF11 for "interactively entered fullscreen > mode", the navigational elements keep being present. But > maybe there's something you can do by configuration file, > so getting rid of navigational bars should be possible too. There are several extensions that do it already and if for some reason non-work it looks trivial to make one ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: boting straight into firefox
>> I wonder, though . . . why Firefox? Would a more minimal (but still GUI) >> browser -- such as Surf, perhaps -- serve your needs better? > > Maybe it's worth considering that in case the menu bar, > navigation bar and all the other (mostly nonsense) bars > of web browsers are not needed for the purpose described > above. It is a client requirement.The client is replacing a windows based solution with FreeBSD and for what ever reasons all the sites that need to be displayed are specific to ff (the use features only found in it or IE 9). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
boting straight into firefox
I am setting a read only kiosk (it displays various web pages progmatically and has *NO OTHER* function) and security is not a concern because the hardware is locked away and need to find the most hands free way method of going from power on to full screen www/firefox is it sufficent to have a su to a non-root user and then run startx in /etc/rc(.local) [I have a custom /etc/rc so I do not need rc.local) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
OT: How to set a timeout for a process
I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the script (no harm done if it fails) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
I decided to build the sdk from sources and wondering why it reported "Donut" when I told repo -init to checkout Eclair? -- Forwarded message -- From: Ilias-Dimitrios Vrachnis Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM Subject: Re: problems mounting android htc To: Aryeh Friedman On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > A few things: > > 1. Yes it is required the reason I put it in the first place is ant > refused to build without it. (note 1) > > 2. How do I check the version on the phone? > > 3. What kind of modifications would be needed to make it work on eclair? > > Notes: > > 1. I eventually (once I get the standard ant style development > working) to customize our existing build system (based around aegis > [http//sf.aegis.net] and cook > [http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/software/cook/]) so the fact that ant > complains may not be an issue > one of my manifests is this: http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android"; package="org.me.androidapplication1"> and it ran without a hitch on my phone. You can check your android version on a phone by going to settings->about phone look for the "android version" for eclair to work... you'd either have to ask bsdroid's mentainer. or.. :/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
A few things: 1. Yes it is required the reason I put it in the first place is ant refused to build without it. (note 1) 2. How do I check the version on the phone? 3. What kind of modifications would be needed to make it work on eclair? Notes: 1. I eventually (once I get the standard ant style development working) to customize our existing build system (based around aegis [http//sf.aegis.net] and cook [http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/software/cook/]) so the fact that ant complains may not be an issue On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Ilias-Dimitrios Vrachnis wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Aryeh Friedman > wrote: >> % ant debug >> ... >> /shared/home/aryeh/HelloAndroid/build.xml:78: For 'AOSP' SDK Preview, >> attribute minSdkVersion in AndroidManifest.xml must be 'AOSP' > > Hmmm. Interesting. > I am looking at the applications I developed under FreeBSD, and I did > not set the minSdkVersion at all in the Manifest. > Try that. If it doesn't work, i'm afraid there are not much more that > can be done. The AOSP version is froyo (2.2). That means that if > omitting the version in the manifest fails, you need the eclair sdk. > I'm afraid that that is not available for freebsd though. > > You could target for 2.2 devices only, but if your phone does not run 2.2... > Well, you get the idea... > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Vrachnis Ilias Dimitrios wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >> I do all my coding from the command line and not an IDE and got BSDoid >> and the Android SDK both downloaded but I can not get BSDoid installed >> I did a quick hack of coping tools/libx86/swt.jar from bsdoid to the >> sdk dir but so far none of the other instructions work >> > > > first things first. > If you execute: > adb devices > What's the output? > > (adb should be in the sdk tarball you downloaded from the bsdroid wiki) ~/android-AOSP-2.2-i386-distro-20100709 aryeh@flosoft-stable% tools/adb devices * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * * daemon started successfully * ADB server didn't ACK * failed to start daemon * error: cannot connect to daemon > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
I do all my coding from the command line and not an IDE and got BSDoid and the Android SDK both downloaded but I can not get BSDoid installed I did a quick hack of coping tools/libx86/swt.jar from bsdoid to the sdk dir but so far none of the other instructions work On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Vrachnis Ilias Dimitrios wrote: > On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > >> Le Sun, 16 Jan 2011 09:41:06 -0500, >> Aryeh Friedman a écrit : >> >>> My situtation is a little different I am a developer hired to do some >>> work on the android but have never done *ANY* mobile programming so >>> starting from square on from essencially yesterday >> >> I think you have to use the android SDK to access the phone in >> "developer mode". >> >> There is a porting effort for the SDK on FreeBSD: >> http://bsdroid.org/tiki-index.php >> >> I have not try it. >> >> Regards. > > I did try the method described in the bsdroid wiki and i can say that it > works. The adb that is. > The adt plugin for eclipse requires some java libraries and i cannot find > them. > Nonetheless, there is an android plugin for the netbeans ide that i can > confirm that works under freebsd. > > As for mounting the phone's sd card, it is not required for developing. > If you still want to mount it, you have to enable it from the phone first: > > You pull down the notification bar on the top, and click on the notification > that says that USB is connected. > - If you are not running HTC Sense, there are two notifications related to > usb. The one you are looking for is not the notification that mentions the > usb debugging, but the mass storage one. > - If you are running HTC Sense, there is only one notification. When you > select it, there is a radio-button based menu where you have to select that > you want to enable mass storage. Don't forget to press the ok/close button > on the bottom of the screen for the changes to take effect. > > You can then mount the sd card using mount_msdosfs as Patrick mentioned in > his response earlier. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
My situtation is a little different I am a developer hired to do some work on the android but have never done *ANY* mobile programming so starting from square on from essencially yesterday On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Patrick Lamaiziere > wrote: >> >> Le Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:57:33 -0500, >> Aryeh Friedman a écrit : >> >> > No idea how but when I plug the USB in it says "USB Debugging >> > Connected" >> >> On my HTC dream when I connect it to USB, there is a notification on the >> phone and I have (on the phone) to "unmount" the sd card. >> >> Then I can mount the sd card from FreeBSD with >> mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt >> >> dmesg: >> ugen2.2: at usbus2 >> umass0: on usbus2 >> umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x >> umass0:3:0:-1: Attached to scbus3 >> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 >> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error >> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition >> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 (Power >> on, reset, or bus device reset occurred) (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): >> TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM >> status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check >> Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 >> (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device >> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >> da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present >> GEOM: da0: partition 1 does not start on a track boundary. >> GEOM: da0: partition 1 does not end on a track boundary. > > I had a similar problem a weeks ago (posted to this list) with my LG Vortex. > It refused to mount (da0 would get assigned and then immediately removed). > If I left it plugged in for some undetermined time it worked. I would be > able to mount it normally on fbsd7.3/fbsd8.1/fbsd8.2/fbsd9.0 without issue. > I suspect it might be something in the Linux Kernel running on the phone but > have not rooted it (and honestly don't intend to right now). > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
No idea how but when I plug the USB in it says "USB Debugging Connected" On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:48 PM, George Liaskos wrote: >>> Already tried based on several email threads found on the net but here >>> is one last try: >>> >>> flosoft-stable# dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/da0 count=0 >>> dd: /dev/da0: Device not configured >>> flosoft-stable# mount /dev/da0 /mnt >>> mount: /dev/da0 : Device not configured > > Have you switched the connection type from your phone to disk drive? > I suspect that it's on "charge only". > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problems mounting android htc
Forgot to include the list On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Already tried based on several email threads found on the net but here > is one last try: > > flosoft-stable# dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/da0 count=0 > dd: /dev/da0: Device not configured > flosoft-stable# mount /dev/da0 /mnt > mount: /dev/da0 : Device not configured > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:21 PM, George Liaskos wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Aryeh Friedman >> wrote: >>> I am attempting to make it so I can communicate with the linux on my >>> Android HTC 0100 and when I insert it I get the following on the >>> console: >>> >>> ugen5.2: at usbus5 >>> umass0: on usbus5 >>> umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x >>> umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 (Power >>> on, reset, or bus device reset occurred) >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition >>> (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not >>> present) >>> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 >>> da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device >>> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >>> da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present >>> >>> When I attempt to mount /dev/da0 I get device not configured: >>> >>> ~ aryeh@flosoft-stable% uname -a >>> FreeBSD flosoft-stable.no-ip.biz 8.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE >>> #1: Sat Jan 15 06:33:34 EST 2011 >>> r...@flosoft-stable.no-ip.biz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>> >>> I also tried on a -CURRENT partition that is uptodate through about >>> noon (EST) today. >> >> Try >> >> # dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/da0 count=0 >> >> and then mount da0s1 >> > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
problems mounting android htc
I am attempting to make it so I can communicate with the linux on my Android HTC 0100 and when I insert it I get the following on the console: ugen5.2: at usbus5 umass0: on usbus5 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 (Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred) (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present When I attempt to mount /dev/da0 I get device not configured: ~ aryeh@flosoft-stable% uname -a FreeBSD flosoft-stable.no-ip.biz 8.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Jan 15 06:33:34 EST 2011 r...@flosoft-stable.no-ip.biz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I also tried on a -CURRENT partition that is uptodate through about noon (EST) today. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could
oops should of said the main disadvantage is it is not FreeBSD On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > For us it is mostly cost but the other advantage (with RS at least) is > you can size the "hardware" to fit your needs and not get any more > then you need... for example when we first started our consulting firm > back in July we bought 256MB of RAM (RS sizes the Disk, CPU, > Bandwidth, etc. as a multiple of RAM) and then moved to 512MB in Sept. > and except for the 10 mins it took for RS to transfer our server image > from a 1U VM to a 2U VM (1U = 256MB/RAM) the move was completely > painless and no time and effort was needed to update the OS, 3rd party > apps, our custom made code, etc > > Like I said early the only downside of using RS as our primary server > provider (even though we use it for internal development only [but > since each of the 3 partners lives in a different part of the US it is > much cheaper and easier then having it in one of our houses because > none of our ISP's allow static IP's for non-business users which is > twice the cost almost]) > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Tom Worster > Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could > To: dalesc...@shaw.ca > Cc: FreeBSD > > > On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, "dalesc...@shaw.ca" wrote: > >>> but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does. >> >>What do feel are the advantages of the cloud? > > i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting > differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage > and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a > mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type). > > the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all > their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the > platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i > currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address > juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the > price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get > with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of > the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm. > > in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing > architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated > hosts. > > and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't > radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin > (there's a lot less to a cloud server "slice" than a whole computer), > monitoring, persistence. > > does this begin to answer your question? > > > this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here > said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers > it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like > a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd > are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions. > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Fwd: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could
For us it is mostly cost but the other advantage (with RS at least) is you can size the "hardware" to fit your needs and not get any more then you need... for example when we first started our consulting firm back in July we bought 256MB of RAM (RS sizes the Disk, CPU, Bandwidth, etc. as a multiple of RAM) and then moved to 512MB in Sept. and except for the 10 mins it took for RS to transfer our server image from a 1U VM to a 2U VM (1U = 256MB/RAM) the move was completely painless and no time and effort was needed to update the OS, 3rd party apps, our custom made code, etc Like I said early the only downside of using RS as our primary server provider (even though we use it for internal development only [but since each of the 3 partners lives in a different part of the US it is much cheaper and easier then having it in one of our houses because none of our ISP's allow static IP's for non-business users which is twice the cost almost]) -- Forwarded message -- From: Tom Worster Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could To: dalesc...@shaw.ca Cc: FreeBSD On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, "dalesc...@shaw.ca" wrote: >> but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does. > >What do feel are the advantages of the cloud? i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type). the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm. in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated hosts. and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin (there's a lot less to a cloud server "slice" than a whole computer), monitoring, persistence. does this begin to answer your question? this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could
Thats good news because currently we have a gentoo machine with them (the closest linux distro to FreeBSD in philosophy and implementation) and since i have been a big FB user for years I have already told them we would like to switch if they offered the option On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tom Worster wrote: > I got a somewhat encouraging response from Rackspace when I asked if they > were going to offer FreeBSD in addition to the 17 different Linuxes and 5 > different Windowses they offer. > > But ultimately their decision will depend on market interest. > > Here's the contact info if you want to voice your interest: > > http://www.rackspacecloud.com/aboutus/contact > > > A Xen expert says you could order a Windows VM and overwrite it with 64 > bit FreeBSD and that will work but it's not the ideal solution. > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could
Also you can make an official vote for freebsd at http://feedback.rackspacecloud.com/forums/71021-product-feedback and then search for freebsd On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Thats good news because currently we have a gentoo machine with them > (the closest linux distro to FreeBSD in philosophy and implementation) > and since i have been a big FB user for years I have already told them > we would like to switch if they offered the option > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tom Worster wrote: >> I got a somewhat encouraging response from Rackspace when I asked if they >> were going to offer FreeBSD in addition to the 17 different Linuxes and 5 >> different Windowses they offer. >> >> But ultimately their decision will depend on market interest. >> >> Here's the contact info if you want to voice your interest: >> >> http://www.rackspacecloud.com/aboutus/contact >> >> >> A Xen expert says you could order a Windows VM and overwrite it with 64 >> bit FreeBSD and that will work but it's not the ideal solution. >> >> >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir
After playing around here is what I came up with (cpio -l never did
the links right):
#!/bin/tcsh
foreach i ( `find ~aegis/fnre/baseline/src/ -type d | grep -v
src/build | cut -f6- -d'/'` )
mkdir $i
end
foreach i ( `find ~aegis/fnre/baseline/src/ -type f -name '*.java' |
grep -v src/build | cut -f6- -d'/'` )
ln -s ~aegis/fnre/baseline/$i $i
end
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Joshua Isom wrote:
> On 9/9/2010 12:24 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>>
>> I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and
>> only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if
>> the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and
>> replace it with a non-symlink:
>>
>> To show the problem I am attempting to solve:
>>
>> foo: (owned by fred)
>> arf:
>> ack
>>
>> in barney's account:
>>
>> ln -s ~foo/ foo
>> rm foo/arf/ack # Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlink
>> and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack
>
> This should give you at least a good start:
>
> find foo/ \( -type d -exec mkdir -p copy/'{}' \; \) -o \( -type f -exec ln
> -s '{}' copy/'{}' \; \)
>
> That'll copy directory foo into copy/foo and the rest is fine. You'll have
> to tweak the rest as you need but it'll get you started.
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Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir
Should of mentioned that I was using C as an example we are in fact using Java and the archives in question are jar's On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 09/09/10 18:24, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >> I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and >> only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if >> the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and >> replace it with a non-symlink: > > cpio -pdl > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
how to recursively symlink every file in a dir
I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and replace it with a non-symlink: To show the problem I am attempting to solve: foo: (owned by fred) arf: ack in barney's account: ln -s ~foo/ foo rm foo/arf/ack# Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlink and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack Note there are over 500 files upto 5 dirs deep in the dir I want to symlink from the final application is our version control system (devel/aegis) keeps seperate repos for different source code projects (for obvious reasons) and we want to make it so in normal operation we can symlink tne source tree from one project into an other but if we want to make a local modificiation to the "foreign" source tree all we have do is (sorry for the aegis commands but I think the idea is clear): rm src/foreign/foo.c aenf src/foreign/foo.c cp ~aegis/foreign/baselins/src/forgein.c vi src/foreign/foo.c # to make local modifications And before someone suggests a ar library we purposely *DO NOT* want the modified libs to be installed until later ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
thunderbird replacement
I currently am using mail/thunderbird as my mail reader and it is just doing the job very well (even with heavy use of filters) I use xfce4 on 8.1-PRERELEASE (updated and portmaster -Rafd'ed about 3 weeks ago) I am looking for a good replacement suggestions here are the minimal features I need: * Gmail support * Filtering (either internal or via external tool) * Multiple accounts (2) * Ability to send via local sendmail (my ISP blocks incoming port 25 thats why I am using gmail) * Handle over 1000 messages a day * (optional) Plain text archives (unlike how Thunderbird does it) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Unit conversion program?
units(1) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Modulok wrote: > List, > > Is there a command-line program which does unit conversions between SI > and other unit forms? Perhaps something similar to Google's feature? > For example: > > ...@bar> baz 41.5c to f > 106.7 > > ...@bar> baz 190lbs to kg > 86.1825503 > > As well as for other associated units? I could write one in python > pretty easily, but just thought I'd check before re-inventing the > wheel. > > Thanks. > -Modulok- > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
/var/yp/securenets
Does the netmask in /var/yp/securenets have to match the one listed in ifconfig if both machines are on the same subnet specifically we get 5 static IP's from our ISP who also puts other customers in the same subnet (the mask if 255.0.0.0) and if possible I want to make an entry like this: 123.45.67.89255.255.255.254 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: example c program that does "beep"
printf("\007"); /* assumes that your using a console/terminal that
will beep on ctl-g */
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> How can I get a beep from c?
> I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
> still not clear.
> Could somebody send me an example.
> I'd be soo grateful.
>
> many thanks
> anton
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OT: XML newbie
I am a relative XML newbie (i.e. our backend does spit out some XML I wrote but it just slapped together with no knowledge of the underlaying structure of XML)... Now I am going back and actually learning XML... our main application is to insert XML directly into XHTML documents and use either CSS or XSLT (don't know enough to pick yet) to style them without resorting to javascript... Now my question what is a good/reasonable set of command line tools for working with/debugging/testing all this in such a way I do not need to rely on the browser... specifically what types (and specific ones if there is a preference) tools do I need and are there any recommended procedures for dealing with XML from the command line in the future we may want to also do Java parsing of XML but that seems to be well handled already in the JDK (1.6) API thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
right CPUTYPE
What CPUTYPE should I put in /etc/make.conf for: CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (3210.85-MHz 686-class CPU) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd
This may or may not be suitable for your situation but this is how I generally set printers up: 1. Install print/cups (yes the full wrapper port) 2. Edit your /etc/make.conf by adding a line that says no LPR 3. Add CUPS_ENABLE="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf 4. Manually start cups (run "cupsd" as root) 5. Point your web browser to http://localhost:631 6. Click on adminstration-->Add Printer 7. Enter what ever you want on the first screen 8. (This step will vary based on how your printer is connected... in this case I assume it is networked like mine is) if your printer is a standard network printer CUPS should find it automatically if it doesn't otherwise socket://[IP] where IP is the IP of the printer (you will have to search the web perhaps for non-network printers) 9. Enter the type of printer it is off the menu (cannon is not limited so you will need to search for the right PPD file) 10. Click on add-printer 11. The user name and password is the user name and password for any account on the machine (I have never tested anything but root or my personal account) 12. Print a test page if everything has gone well proceed if not try to figure out what you missed 13. Click on printers and set the new printer to be your default printer 14. Since by default the base system installs lpd when it is installed you need to deinstall it the easiest way to do this as root do: rm /usr/bin/lp* /usr/sbin/lp* 15. If everything has gone well up to now try to print from the command line with something like "lpr /etc/passwd" 16. If step 15 worked reboot and try to print again 17. (only if you have a desktop manager or other GUI stuff installed) Make sure that all your commonly used GUI applications can print 18. Your done (well almost) 19. (optional) if you do a lot of command line printing you may want to install a pritty print program like print/enscript-letter and alias it to lpr in your .cshrc or the equiv 20. Now your done On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Warren Liddell wrote: > i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i > can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had > success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version > of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by > step instructions to get it goin. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: wireless on a hp pavillion dv5000
Same card but no carrier... what did you do to see the carrier? On 1/5/09, michael wrote: > > > Glen Barber wrote: >> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>> I have installed the ndis stuff and it sees the mac address but when i >>> push the "power" button on the wireless (build into the laptop) it does >>> not power on the wireless card any ideas? >> >> Do you have 'ifconfig_ndis="your settings here"' in rc.conf? Are you >> sure by pressing that button you haven't turned the wireless card off? >> (In my experience with ndis0 and hotkeys, it doesn't work well.) >> >> You're not giving is much to work with here. > When i was using the ndis interface on my dv2000 with broadcom4311 the > wifi light never came on and the switch had no function. you could be > experiencing the same situation. my wifi did however, work. > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
keeping clocks synced on a dual boot machine
I have a dual boot machine and if I set the Vista clock to the local time then no matter what I do on the fbsd side (via tzsetup) forces fbsd to report local time instead of GMT and vice versa (if fbsd is local then vista is GMT). How can I get them to agree? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: using sys/fusefs-ntfs as the home dir
> The solution would be very simple, but because you're insisting > on having the "D:" partition formatted as NTFS, a problem occurs: > As far as I know, FreeBSD's NTFS support is okay for reading, but > not for writing. (I'm not 100% sure because I don't have any > "Windows" stuff around to check.) Actual sysutils/fusefs-ntfs (or ntfsprogs with less stable support) allows you to read and write I am the "unofficial" (I am not sure if Ale has put my name on the maintainer line of the make file with his or not) fusefs-ntfs the only issue it has on the fb side is in some cases (happens to me but Ale can't seem to reproduce so we are at a lost of how to fix it) is any attempt to mount it from anywhere in /etc/rc or with non-delayed option in fstab will fail (non-fatally and repeating the attempt after your in "full" multiuser mode works just fine)... I was asking about how to structure the dir's and from what you described I don't think it solves the problem completely because the "Desktop" dir/folder has two completely different means under both OS's and besides many symlinks (most not documented anywhere) are likelly needed so the purpose of the question was attempting to automate this and/or minimize the number of symlinks (because to windows the will not translate to shortcuts if I understand the guts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
using sys/fusefs-ntfs as the home dir
For the last couple of months I have stopped using a dual boot machine due to: 1. Not having an activated copy of vista (fixed) 2. Wine handling 90% of my common needs up to last week (NBC is broadcasting the olympics in a format wine can't handle and most of my games don't work [and the ones that do have no audio]) thus I am going back to a dual boot setup with the following config (I hope): 500 GB internal drive in 2 partions (min. for vista [c:] and the rest for fbsd [8-current]) 250 GB external (usb) that will be ntfs formated [d: for windows and /mnt/d on fbsd) My question how do I set it up so my windows user's dir is the same as my home dir on fbsd? (assume it will be on the ext. drive)? Secondary question which I know is answered at WineHQ so no need to answer unless there is a BSD specific issue is how do I make it so wine will treat the first partion of the 500 GB as ~/.wine/drive_c and the same for the external ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: using sys/fusefs-ntfs as the home dir
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Aryeh Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the last couple of months I have stopped using a dual boot machine due to: > > 1. Not having an activated copy of vista (fixed) > 2. Wine handling 90% of my common needs up to last week (NBC is > broadcasting the olympics in a format wine can't handle and most of my > games don't work [and the ones that do have no audio]) > > thus I am going back to a dual boot setup with the following config (I hope): > > 500 GB internal drive in 2 partions (min. for vista [c:] and the rest > for fbsd [8-current]) > 250 GB external (usb) that will be ntfs formated [d: for windows and > /mnt/d on fbsd) > > My question how do I set it up so my windows user's dir is the same as > my home dir on fbsd? (assume it will be on the ext. drive)? > > Secondary question which I know is answered at WineHQ so no need to > answer unless there is a BSD specific issue is how do I make it so > wine will treat the first partion of the 500 GB as ~/.wine/drive_c and > the same for the external > Forgot one big qualifier to thue question... I want it so my firefox and thunderbird folders are the same location on both OS's and that if I dl mail/add a bookmark/etc that both OS's will handle it correctly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pls help: regarding gdb internals
On Jan 16, 2008 4:24 PM, Arun Paneri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Aryeh & Chuck. > Well, I am trying to solve issues related to GDB. Like, gdb prints wrong > values of few parameteres eg "this" pointer, when we give "backtrace" or > "x/10x $ebp" command in core of our company product. It should be the first param (i.e. starts on byte 12 of the frame)... $ebp points the next stack frame (i.e. where the next push will happen) so to really understand you need to look 12 bytes "below" edp... For example I used the following loop to find what func a call came from (since I don't have the orginal code any more this is psedo): do ptr=(*edb) +4 // gives you the return addr for the current frame while ptr!=desired frame addr the edb+12 has be done with inline asm when the loop is done ptr-4 is the start of the frame your intrested in thus ptr-4+12 is the this param. A small caution here doing this kind of in stack ptr math can lead to some very bizzare bugs... for example the above loop combined with a param ptr deref (i.e. treat the param of intrest as a ptr) lead to the strangest bug I have seen in my 20 year career... essencially lets say I had a loop to go through params to see which one of interest (I was using this as a way of automating some aspects of a OO RDBMS), which in my case was the first param of a ptr type whose value was -1 [the db would then do some db magic and replace it with a ptr to a real instance read from disk]... now that being said lets say "a" is the offset of the current param and "b" is the offset of current param we are testing such that: while(b > I think it reads wrong value from symbol table or stack frame. So i am trying > to put a break point and see what exactly gdb reads for that perticuler frame > when it shows a wrong data. But dont know where exactly it reads data from > the symbol table or stack frame. > > If you have a specific idea regarding this pls give some more info. > > > Regards. > > > - Original Message > From: Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Arun Paneri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: FreeBSD User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:56:36 PM > Subject: Re: Pls help: regarding gdb internals > > On Jan 16, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Arun Paneri wrote: > > Can anyone write few lines about how does gdb internally works. I > > went to "Gdb internals guide" but couldn't find much information > > specifically which i am looking for. > > I'm not familiar with the document you mentioned, but the canonical > documentation for GDB is available via "info gdb". > > > I want information like when we give command "$gdb test.exe" then > > how internaly it works. Does it start reading symbols and start > > making symbol table with this command? > > Binary objects such as executable programs, shared libraries, etc > contain symbol tables; GDB does a quick load of this symbol data to > identify all of the sources of symbols for the program, and then will > look up the details when needed. > > > Does it start creating stack frames as we give command "run" or > > before even that? > > The program being debugged does not exist as a process until you run > it, so there isn't an address space or stack until then. When the > target program is run, it creates it's own stack frames according to > the local architecture's machine calling conventions. > > > I am basically interested to know about creation of frames and how > > does gdb read them back when we give "backtrace" command? > > Well, the calling conventions are different for every particular CPU > architecture; but if you want to see the code that GDB uses, start with: > > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/frame-base.c > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/frame-base.h > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/frame-unwind.c > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/frame-unwind.h > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/frame.c > /usr/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/frame.h > > ...but I suspect that something like these two articles are closer to > what you are looking for: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_convention > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_calling_conventions > > -- > -Chuck > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Shrinking a partition
After installing FreeBSD and Vista (463 GB and 30 GB respectivally) I found out I don't have enough free space on my 500 GB drive on the vista partition. How do I determine how much I can shrink the FreeBSD partition by safely (by just moving the end sector in fdisk(1))? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
OT: fixing a broken key
After cleaning my keyboard by removing the keys and using a damp paper towel to clean the keys and the area between contacts (there is a barrier between the area under the keys and the contact so it is very unlikely the contacts got wet) my r key now registers as being constantly pressed any ideas on how to correct this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to patch the kernel?
On 1/4/08, RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:53:18 -0500 > "Lyle Scott III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't have much experience patching anything, really. > > > > I was told by the port security/ipsec-tools to patch the kernel if i > > wanted to use nat-transversals. > > > > they provide me with > > http://vanhu.free.fr/FreeBSD/patch-natt-freebsd6-2007-05-31.diff, but > > I am now sure how to patch up the kernel so I can do a buildworld. > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. I took a quick read over the > > patch manpage, but simply 'patch < file' in /usr/src askes me what > > file to patch... > > Try /usr/src/sys/ instead, that's where the kernel source is. > > ___ Keep in mind the next time you do a cvsup it will nuke the patch so you will have to reapply it... now if you do this often enough you might want to consider keeping a local cvs repository that way when you update your sources it will not overwrite the patch... see develop(8) for some ideas on how to set this up (even though the source tree layout they suggest is a little weird you just better off doing cvs -d /home/ncvs update in /usr/src) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Finally, Flash seems to be working for Me :)
On 1/4/08, Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rudy writes: > > > I do do more than watch youtube videos, but people send me links > > and I'm always bummed if I have to reboot into Ubuntu just to see > > a stupid video :) > > What you need is www/youtube-dl. Deposits the content in a > form that can be played by mplayer (and presuably others). > I forget the exact name of it (away from my desktop machine) but there is an extension for firefox that wraps all video plugins to use an external player like mplayer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Finally, Flash seems to be working for Me :)
On 1/4/08, Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not just use gnash to watch youtube videos? It works fine for me, > with my user account. > > However, if I use Firefox+gnash as root, it makes my system unstable, > I lose /dev/null, and the system gets weird. I guess gnash will kill > your system if you run it as root. Every flash or flash-like thing I have tried except linux-flashplugin7 blows up on google ananyltics (my primary use for flash) but if someone can tell me how to do this and use more modern flash pages also I would be intrested (btw as far I can tell firefox defaults to the most recently installed flash plugin) > On Jan 3, 2008 8:23 PM, Rudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I forgot to mention, my post is for FreeBSD 7... here is my uname: > > FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #2: Thu Jan 3 15:59:14 PST 2008 > > > > > > > > Rudy > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system
I have both vista and freebsd 8-current installed on the same drive and also have allocated the rest of the disk to be a fat32 partition. I know I should put any data I want to be passed between the two on the fat32 partition. Now the question is how to lay it out so that: 1. The home dir for my account of FreeBSD = Vista account's root dir 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is automatic) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf
I have had bad experiences with loading modules anywhere except /boot/loader.conf and even so there is some hacking in the rc to make it work fine for example: (sleep 5;ntfs-3g )& is the last line in the rc > > Remember that this is the loader which will be loading the > module, so if /usr is a separate partition then this will not work as > /usr doesn't get mounted until much, much later in the boot process... > > Alternatively, if you're using your own home-brew rc script, why not > just add a kldload fuse into it? > > --Antony > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
smart_host on sendmail min config
What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all mail via mx1.optonline.net): OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `mx2.optonline.net')dnl btw shouldn't there be a frebsd7 or freebsd8 OSTYPE? (I run -current) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
urgent: undoing a cvsup update
I just cvsuped the latest sources and they break many programs named and most X11-apps comes to mind immediately Well how do I backout of the this keep in miond I use cvs-supfile to populate a local repo and did a rm -rf /usr/obj /usr/src thinking that might clear stuff up but it didn't As far I can tell I can track the main issue to the new malloc stuff All programs that are borken just hang immediatlely after invocation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: In the spirit of Godwin's law - I propose Beastie's law
> > A typical "TV set service" is not really supported by FreeBSD > neither... or FreeBSD is not supported by "TV set service", or > something!! Talk about being a little literal I don't own a TV and watch everything I care about thanks to the networks sites, bit torrent and miro (hopefully will be officially added after the ports freeze is over) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Upper limit on make -j ?
Before I file a PR I just want to know if it is worth it to file a PR for: make -j1000 buildworld buildkernel installkernel seg faulting ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
getting rid of xconsole on xdm
I am in the middle of setting up a new machine and want to get rid of the &^&*(*&%*&@ xconsole on xdm (it doesn't go away on login either)... how? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: +bfe0: watchdog timeout -- resetting
On 11/23/07, Michael Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been receiving the same error message from my NAS box as of late. > > Until last week, I was been running Freebsd6.2, and I occassionally > received the message "re0: watchdog timeout". It would happen about > once a week. Last week, I installed freenas (which is based on > freebsd6.2), and now I receive the same error with more regularity. > My NIC is a Netgear 3a11. > > I seem to be getting the error message most when attempting to > transfer a large number of files onto the server. > > Any help would be welcome. Thanks, > 1. 6.2 is not very friendlyt towards re(4) consider 6.2 or 7 2. While still using 6.2 do the following right after a reboot: ifconfig re0 -txcsum -rxcsum This tells the OS not the hardware to do the checksum on packets. Also you should do a search for re(4) problems in -current to get a better understanding of the issue. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered
On Nov 11, 2007 3:55 PM, Tino Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look what happened to Beastie: > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg Nice Can you produce an icon size one (or a powered by size one)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: need an explanation of "make serarch" output
Sorry beinf rude but I wonder if either of the responders took there own advice and RTFM'ed (where M=mail) What I mean is I was *NOT* asking how to get the deps list... I was asking that for example "make search key=jdk16 display=bdeps" will display multiple "bdeps" lines which one contains the correct deps list (if any) or do I need to combine them to get a complete list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3
On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, my name is Cesar. > > I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a > newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last of versions meant primarilly for single processing machines (with some after thought payed to multiprocessing). 7.X is the beginning of the versions specifically designed with multiprocessing/cores in mind Under the hood many things have been changed improved in 7 the offical recommendation is 6.3 is for people who can *NOT* upgrade to 7 for whatever reason and everyone else should use 7... note as far most people can tell there is no "easy" way to upgrade to 7 if you have 6 installed so you should start with 7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: csup broken on -currnet amd64?
On 11/1/07, Steve Kargl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 03:06:54AM +0000, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > monster# uname -a > > FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Oct 30 > > 18:07:21 UTC 2007 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > monster# csup -h cvsup8.us.freebsd.org > > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile > > Connected to 216.165.129.134 > > Updating collection ports-all/cvs > > Checkout ports/UPDATING > > Receiver: Connection reset by peer > > Will retry at 23:04:37 > > > > monster# csup -h cvsup9.us.freebsd.org > > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile > > Connected to 128.205.32.21 > > Updating collection ports-all/cvs > > Edit ports/UPDATING^M > > Receiver: Connection reset by peer > > Will retry at 23:05:17 > > Works for me. csup built from source less than 18 hours old. My versions are roughly that old ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
csup broken on -currnet amd64?
monster# uname -a FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Oct 30 18:07:21 UTC 2007 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 monster# csup -h cvsup8.us.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Connected to 216.165.129.134 Updating collection ports-all/cvs Checkout ports/UPDATING Receiver: Connection reset by peer Will retry at 23:04:37 monster# csup -h cvsup9.us.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Connected to 128.205.32.21 Updating collection ports-all/cvs Edit ports/UPDATING^M Receiver: Connection reset by peer Will retry at 23:05:17 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
strangeness with enigmail and thunuderbird
Installing the port for enigmail-thunderbird and manually installing the plugin into my personal thunderbird profile (as per instructions in the port's pkg-message) and manually configuring it to use /usr/local/gpg (couldn't find it automatically) it spins forever (i.e. the task never completes) in retrieving my keys (which I have none)... how do I fix this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: memory pool, rfc
On 11/1/07, Eduardo Morras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 00:38 01/11/2007, you wrote: > >Ouch! ...you are not trying to sell anything are you? It may be in > >your best interest if you proceed to the hackers list, to initiate > >conversation in a way that explains how your code will benefit a > >cause, not slam other people (and their work) that are already > >established! > > > >Steve > > No, i don't want to sell anything to anyone. I'm already on hackers > list but has very low traffic (9 messages last 5 days) and this is a > question list no ? ;-) I think that in this list are FreeBSD > *gurus*/hacks too which could say a "try it" or a "are you crazy?" Even though you might get a little critized for being slightly off topic (at least until you add your code) try -current ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to create a user account with the same permission as "root" ?
On 10/11/07, Aryeh Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my case, william is better than root. I can never login to my GNOME > > desktop through GDM by root. A root account is absolutely useless to me. > > > I use gnome and there is not a single thing I can not do with a root > account that I can't with one. this also works for other accounts for example I am a one person company and thus have to maintain the software I sell as well as the web site for it. for this reason I keep two accounts one for development and one for the web page and I su to them (yes I do GUI developement). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to create a user account with the same permission as "root" ?
> In my case, william is better than root. I can never login to my GNOME > desktop through GDM by root. A root account is absolutely useless to me. I use gnome and there is not a single thing I can not do with a root account that I can't with one. If you mean opening GUI apps try adding the following (I am assuming your using tcsh... if your using something else look up how to do this): in ~/.cshrc add: xhost + in /root/.cshr add: setenv DISPLAY :0 When you su *ALWAYS* use the following syntax: su - *DO NOT* include any cmd arguement. Once your root you should be able to start any GUI based app from the command line... if you don't know what the command line is left click on the menu/icon and go to properties... if it requires arguements look it up in the man page or the GNOME help for it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to create a user account with the same permission as "root" ?
After seeing some of his other questions he should get a book on basic sysadmin also. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: can not load KDE in FreeBSD 6.2
On 10/11/07, williamkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After configuring to run X.org, and I manage to have KDE by running > command "kdm". > Then I do some changes related to display, example : > a) 1024x768 to 800x600 > b) fonts size for menu, wallpaper ...etc > but then after the computer have shutdown and restart and when I run the > "kdm" command, and I unable to load KDE screen anymore, and it show the > below error message, please advise what should I do to enabling the KDE. > > # kdm > Updating KDM configuration > Information: reading current kdmrc /usr/local/share/config/kdm/kdmrc > (from kde >= 2.2.x) > Information: current kdmrc is from kde >=3.1 (config version 2.3) > # Oct 11 20:15:37 kdm-bin: :[692]: IO Error in XOpenDisplay > Oct 11 20:15:37 kdm-bin[689]: Display :0 cannot be openned > Oct 11 20:15:37 kdm-bin[689]: Unable to fire up local display :0; > disabling. You have to run it from .xinitrc or use a login manager. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to create a user account with the same permission as "root" ?
On 10/11/07, williamkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally, I manage to setup X.org and then KDE 3.5.4 running on FreeBSD > 6.2-Release. > I created a user account named "william" and do not assign any group as > I do not know what are the list of group name for me to select. To start > KDE, i use command "kdm" but I can only logon using the newly created > user name "william", but it do not have same permission/access rights as > "root" account. > Please show on how to enable this user account, with the same permission > as root ? run vipw from the command line and edit the entry's uid and gid (the 3rd and 4th fields) editing the password file directly is inherently so you should read all the related documentation and such (including the format and meaning of each field) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: rebranding a i386 binary to be a amd64 binary
> > There are several kernel features that need to be implemented before an > amd64 nVidia driver will work - see > http://wiki.freebsd.org/NvidiaFeatureRequests for more info. nVidia do > want to create an amd64 driver, but they need the kernel work to be done > first. I just sent nVidia an offer to do the kernel work ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: rebranding a i386 binary to be a amd64 binary
On 10/11/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > Even though I know this is asking for it I want to test the new nVidia > > driver on amd64 and the only issue with a hand compile (from nVidia's > > tar not the ports one) is src/nv-kernel.o is branded elf-i386-32 and > > amd64 wants it branded elf-amd64-64. This file comes from them as a > > precompiled object so rebranding seems to be my only option. > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > Uh it really is an i386 binary, "rebranding" won't magically change all > the code. All I want to do is make it compile so I can test it (like I said I know it is inherently dangerous) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best way to update ports
> yeah, in that situation nfs mount will be easy. > > My servers are in different cities, and the ports are installed with > different options on different servers, for example, some postfix use unix > login accounts, some postfix use courier authentication with mysql database. > So unfortunately I can't share the same ports among them. In a simelar situation I did this by setting up a centeral cvsup mirror (allows you to maintain patches between cvsupdates [i.e. if the file does not differ rcs stamp will not clobber it]). So you always have the most upto date to build against. I am not sure on how to handle the manual security patches on there first application but once applied until the effect files are updated you will not have to reapply the patches. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: best way to update ports
On 10/11/07, Bill Stwalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I need your advice on how to update security patches for ports on a dozen > servers with minimal efforts. If the servers are homogenious why not have a single /usr/local and nfs mount it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
rebranding a i386 binary to be a amd64 binary
Even though I know this is asking for it I want to test the new nVidia driver on amd64 and the only issue with a hand compile (from nVidia's tar not the ports one) is src/nv-kernel.o is branded elf-i386-32 and amd64 wants it branded elf-amd64-64. This file comes from them as a precompiled object so rebranding seems to be my only option. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
NVidia 100.14.19 for FreeBSD i386 released
Not on amd64 but no nvidia kernel module ever has On 10/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > see: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=100077 > > is it working for anybody? > > regards, > > usleep > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
getting better then 1024x768 on xorg 7.3 w/ nv
Is there anyway using the NV (not kernel mod) to get better then 1024x768? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for openoffice)
> If you know neither and want to learn one well, choose TeX. That is > what is used more commonly. There's nothing wrong with troff, and the > support is still quite good, but all the major journals, for example, > accept TeX code but not troff. It is still a good idea to know enough > troff to do man pages, though. I think the only place *roff is still is used is for man pages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
setting up a cvsup mirror
I want to setup a local cvsup mirror on my local machine (someone told me if you do it right you don't need to hand apply uncommitted patches) what do I need to do this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office)
> Yes there is wyswyg editor for TeX. Look among ports. I do not use one > like most long time TeX users as it is useless. Every time you compile lyx and I like it so far. > You sound like using TeX is a bad thing and so difficult. It is not my > 11 year old nice uses for her homeworks. >From what little experience I have with PS and *roff the idea of hacking inline embedded languages just for typesetting sounds stupid beyond belief now that being said since I do need to do the following (I run a small software vendor that also does some basic CS research): * Business communications * Technical writing (manuals) * Scientific writing and since all the more "traditional" (sorry I do not think of any inline text language as being "traditional") word processing crash on my machine (for programming I am very comfortable with nvi and have never seen the need for anything else) that leaves stuff like the embedded text langs, but for most stuff I don't want to have to write a "program" (aka source code) for a "Dear Customer, Your trial period is over" type letter (talk about over kill)... but if I use VI it looks like crap so some type setting is needed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office)
I finally got around to compiling abiword and I get the following when I try to run it: > abiword Segmentation fault (core dumped) > uname -a FreeBSD monsert 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Oct 7 20:47:51 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 I don't want to bother with attempting to figure out why it broke. My question is since it looks like I am stuck with Tex is there any wyswyg editors for it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which java binary to use?
On 10/7/07, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed the Diablo java packages > (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but "which > java" shows "/usr/local/bin/java" which is a link to javavm in the same > directory. > > I wondered about changing the link to point to one of these: > > /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/bin/java > /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/bin/java > /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/bin/java > > Should I change the link, and which one of these should it point to... > the JRE? No because javavm will automatically detect the most appropriate one... also all three above are linked to /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/bin/java I think... now a side issue is under some configurations diablo doesn't work for any gui app (non-www based) so you may want to update to jdk-16 or linux-sun-jdk16 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD
> PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating > system that happens to be able to use extensions that can provide C > style linkage. That said, I laude you for your desire to learn a real > programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start > with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with > absolutely top-notch documentation, and generally speaking, its > third-party extensions have similar documentation quality. Ruby is *VERY* easy to learn and there are many online and offline books for teaching it (or depending on your personal ideals on bittorrent)... it has one advantage over perl it much less syntactically ugly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Abit Motherboard
On 10/5/07, Doug Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am planning for replacing one of my servers. I want to upgrade to > at least a dual-core machine. I found the Abit IP 35 Pro motherboard > at Frys which looks like it has most everything I need. However, I > don't find any discussions about that particular board in the > archives or Google. Has anyone used that board and does it work well > with FreeBSD 6? Thanks. P35 in general has caused problems ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: how to play online TV program
> - multimedia data file bears the (asf/asx) file extensions ; > - streaming formats using in CityTV: > Video : Microsoft Mpeg- 4 codec V2 [320 x 240, 25fps] > Audio : Mpeg Layer-3 (16KB/s, 11kHz, mono) VLC can handle this ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: good replacement for open office
On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality > > (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) > > You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your > problem is underspecified. > > 1) Collaboration (complex). If you collaborate with colleagues who use > Word (for example) then practically you have to use Word if you deal > with complex documents. By "collaborate" I mean exchanging documents > back and forth, with edits in each pass. Mine are always heavy in > equations and chemistry. Read/write .doc, pdf and rtf mainly > 2) Document creation. If you only want to create documents, and Office > compatibility is not that important, then there are many options: > Abiword/Gnumeric are quite good if you want WYSIWYG (but do install all > the extensions), the formatters TeX and groff are exceptionally powerful > if you learn them well. Abiword does not read Word files well; Gnumeric > has many short-comings in reading Excel (particularly for graphics) but > is very good otherwise. Personally I use the groff family for all my > complex documents, but I have used it for 25 years and know it inside > and out. (Well, it was troff and friends long ago.) WYSIWYG editing for the above including embedded graphics and equations I also want to keep the learn curve as small as possible (I know enough troff to be dangerous) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: good replacement for open office
On 10/5/07, RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 > "Philip M. Gollucci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > NetOpsCenter wrote: > > > I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use > > > when all else fails. > > > Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? > > no -- huge library mismatches > > > Why? Isn't that what misc/compat6x is for? Not all the way from 4.x I think though ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
