Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:19:03PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Bob Willcox wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 07:25:09AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 > >> Bob Willcox wrote: > >> > >>> Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten > >>> corrupted (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS > >>> filesystem)? > >>> > >> I would use a hex editor. Of course, try it out on another disk before > >> working on that disk. You can even copy the data with dd from the other > >> disk after you are sure it will work. Of course, the size must match or > >> must be made matching. > >> > >> Ok, it is not a safe way but it is a working way. > > > > Have to say I was hoping that there was some programatic way to do this. > > Certainly if I go down this path I'll have to practice on a disk that > > doesn't > > contain data that I care about. Getting the size right as this is the only > > disk of this size I have. (Actually, it's an Areca RAID 5 Volume Set.) > > If the primary table at the start of the disk is okay, 'gpart recover' > can copy it to the backup table at the end of the disk. I thought it > would do that the other way around also. Neither table should be > affected by a power failure, as they are almost never written. This wasn't a power outage, it was a system hang while I was copying data to the new zfs filesystem. It had been running for quite a while (couple of hours maybe) when it hung. I had created the partition table and zfs pool right before starting the copy. > > How it got into a state where it could be recognized as GPT but not > recoverable, don't know. Could be the disk device (ada0) was given to > ZFS rather than the partition (ada0p1). ZFS is supposed to leave some > space at the end of the disk to allow for slightly differing nominal > disk sizes, which could have left the backup GPT table intact. It's entirely possible that when I created the zfs pool in overwrote the GPT table since it wasn't till I had to reboot following the hang that the system complained. > > ZFS has its own metadata, so it's not necessary to partition a drive > with GPT unless you want to put more than one partition on it, or maybe > control the size of space used. If that's the case perhaps the only problem I have is that something in the system appears to believe that there should be a GPT partition table on the disk when there isn't one. Thanks for the insight. Maybe I can simply ignore the GEOM messages at boot. Bob -- Bob Willcox| LIVING YOUR LIFE: b...@immure.com |A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Austin, TX | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table?
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 07:40:59PM -0500, ill...@gmail.com wrote: > On 18 January 2013 15:08, Bob Willcox wrote: > > Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten corrupted > > (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS filesystem)? > > > > I now get these errors whenever I boot the system: > > > > GEOM: da0: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > > GEOM: da0: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > > > > Fortunately, my ZFS filesystem on the disk (actually a RAID 5 array on a > > ARC-1223 adapter) still mounts and seems to be ok. There is only one > > partition > > on the disk (the ZFS one) and it covered the entire disk so restoring it > > should be easy. Question is, is there a way to do this and will it be safe > > (I > > wouldn't want to trash the filesystem in the partion). > > > > A 'gpart show da0' gives this result: > > > > gpart: No such geom: da0. > > > > This is on a 9.1-STABLE system: > > > > FreeBSD rancor.immure.com 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #2 r245176: Tue Jan > > 8 15:45:29 CST 2013 > > b...@amidala.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMIDALA amd64 > > > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > Is the whole disk in the zfs pool, or is this a > single partition covering the whole disk that > has been placed in the zfs pool? It is a single partition covering the entire disk. > > Have you tried to repair it with the zfs tools? No, not sure what to try. I'm fairly new to zfs. Thanks, Bob > > -- > -- -- Bob Willcox| LIVING YOUR LIFE: b...@immure.com |A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Austin, TX | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 07:25:09AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 > Bob Willcox wrote: > > > Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten > > corrupted (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS > > filesystem)? > > > I would use a hex editor. Of course, try it out on another disk before > working on that disk. You can even copy the data with dd from the other > disk after you are sure it will work. Of course, the size must match or > must be made matching. > > Ok, it is not a safe way but it is a working way. Have to say I was hoping that there was some programatic way to do this. Certainly if I go down this path I'll have to practice on a disk that doesn't contain data that I care about. Getting the size right as this is the only disk of this size I have. (Actually, it's an Areca RAID 5 Volume Set.) Thanks, Bob > > Erich -- Bob Willcox| LIVING YOUR LIFE: b...@immure.com |A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Austin, TX | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table?
Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten corrupted (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS filesystem)? I now get these errors whenever I boot the system: GEOM: da0: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: da0: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. Fortunately, my ZFS filesystem on the disk (actually a RAID 5 array on a ARC-1223 adapter) still mounts and seems to be ok. There is only one partition on the disk (the ZFS one) and it covered the entire disk so restoring it should be easy. Question is, is there a way to do this and will it be safe (I wouldn't want to trash the filesystem in the partion). A 'gpart show da0' gives this result: gpart: No such geom: da0. This is on a 9.1-STABLE system: FreeBSD rancor.immure.com 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #2 r245176: Tue Jan 8 15:45:29 CST 2013 b...@amidala.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMIDALA amd64 Any help would be much appreciated. -- Bob Willcox| LIVING YOUR LIFE: b...@immure.com |A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Austin, TX | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD, Wine and Borderlands 2
Hi, I was wondering if there were any gamers out there and if anyone of you had tried and had any luck with the game Borderlands 2 on Wine. I've been trying all day with informations from there: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=26674&iTestingId=73988 But nothing seems to do I get passed the launcher (bypassing it because dotNet stuff don't work well in Wine) I get company video logos but just before what I believe should be the intro cinematic, I get a black screen and nothing happens after that) So if anyone tried and had any luck it would be great to share your experience :D P.S. I was using wine 1.5.12 on FreeBSD-9 STABLE amd64 with latest nvidia drivers from pkgng repo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Repeaters [off topic]
I'm using a repeater to grab a wireless signal and pass it to my local (wired) lan. For various reasons I won't go into a repeater is, in theory, the best way to do this. However, I'm having trouble finding a repeater that isn't garbage. I've been through 2 Linksys units, both of which required constant reboots and both of which died after almost exactly a year. I tried a Hawking HWREN1 which is still working after slightly more than a year but has trouble with encrypted traffic and also requires frequent reboots. I also tried a Hawking HW2R1, which was much less flaky than the HWREN1 and handled encrypted traffic OK, but died after about 3 months. Since these things cost $100-$140 apiece, it would be cost effective to to pay more for a unit that worked consistently and didn't die after a few months of light use. Has anyone on the list used a repeater that they had good experience with? Bob Hall ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: what is the best kind of KVM Switch?
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:18:59PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > guys, > > can any of you with hardware background tell me which are > the better KVM makes? about three weeks ago my "Belkin > soho" 4-port kvm switch started going flakey on port #1. > > I ordered a new one, same make//model except with PS/2 > plugs. it arrived 100% DOA. I'Ve finally found > somebody willing to come over and help me. Fry's is about > 12 clicks away. they have not too many. maybe an > "iogear" (sp?). is there really that much diff between kvm > switch? and if there is, which should I be looking for? I've used Belkins. They've been flakey. I'm currently on my third year with an Aten and have had no problems. I bought this cheap off the Internet so I don't know what they usually sell for. There was some discussion here about KVM switches just before I bought mine and everyone who mentioned Aten said good things about it. Best of luck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Product Inquiry!
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Product Inquiry!6
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Product Inquiry!.8
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Re: Password theft from memory?
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 01:54:06AM +0100, RW wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:17:41 -0400 > Bob Hall wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10:10AM +0100, RW wrote: > > > I'm not saying that anonymous mappings used by malloc aren't > > > zero-filled, just that it's not mentioned anywhere in the mmap man > > > page. I think it's just taken as read. > > > > I just got what you're trying to say. Unfortunately, your quotes > > mislead me about what you were concerned about. You're right, the man > > page doesn't explicitly state whether anonymous mappings are zero > > filled or not. Since man pages prioritize concision, I would expect > > the page to explain how anonymous mappings are different from other > > mappings, but not how they are the same. > > but they aren't the same - that's what the quotes were about. Looking back, I don't see anything in your quotes that raises the issue of anonymous objects being used differently. > If the zero-filled extensions included whole pages that have the same > status as the rest of the mapping then it would be reasonable to infer > that anonymous mappings are similarly filled with zeroed-pages. > > What that man page is talking about is a small padding region at the > end of a file-backed mapping that isn't really intended for use and > presumably could get re-zeroed at any moment since it has no backing > store. It seems to me to be unreasonable to infer anything about > anonymous mappings from this. When an anonymous object first gets a pagein, it grabs a free page and zeros it. Generally, the virtual memory system fetches new pages from a cache of zeroed pages. In either case, pages are zeroed before a process gets access. This is part of the general background info on virtual memory and I wouldn't expect it to be documented in the mmap man page. Off topic, the maillist is apparently filtering out my posts. I've looked at the webpage on filtering and can't find anything that explains why I'm being filtered. I've tried posting from another system that I posted successfully from previously, but no success. I've tried googling and searching the mail archives for problems related to google mail, but nothing came up. If some mail expert can spot what's causing me to be blocked and let me know, I'd be grateful. > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Password theft from memory?
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10:10AM +0100, RW wrote: > I'm not saying that anonymous mappings used by malloc aren't > zero-filled, just that it's not mentioned anywhere in the mmap man > page. I think it's just taken as read. I just got what you're trying to say. Unfortunately, your quotes mislead me about what you were concerned about. You're right, the man page doesn't explicitly state whether anonymous mappings are zero filled or not. Since man pages prioritize concision, I would expect the page to explain how anonymous mappings are different from other mappings, but not how they are the same. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Password theft from memory?
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, RW wrote: >> The above quote states that the memory not occupied by the remapped >> object is zero filled. Which is to say that memory allocated by >> mmap() is either filled with new data or filled with zeros. > > In context it says: > > "If len is not a multiple of the page-size, the mapped region > may extend past the specified range. Any such extension beyond the > end of the mapped object will be zero-filled." > > To me the most straightforward reading of that is that it's > referring to non-aligned address ranges. > > Your interpretation may well be the intended one, but where would > that leave the anonymous mappings used by malloc? Are we to think > of them as extensions beyond a non-existent mapped object, and thus > infer that they are zero-filled? It's a bit of a stretch from > what's written. malloc() uses either sbrk or mmap to extend the heap. As far as I know, sbrk extends the heap with zero filled memory. According to the man page, mmap extends it either with remapped data, or with remapped data plus additional zero filled memory. This answers the original poster's question. If you've gone on to a different issue then I apologize for not following you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Password theft from memory?
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:29:08PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:54:20 -0400 > Bob Hall wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:46:33PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Bob Hall wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 03:18:46PM +0100, RW wrote: > > > >> I don't believe the heap is allocated zeroed pages. The kernel > > > >> does allocate such pages to the BSS segment, but that's because > > > >> it holds zeroed data such as C static variables. > > > > > > > > According to McKusick and Neville-Neil's book on FreeBSD, sbrk > > > > extends the uninitialized data segment with zero-filled pages. > > > > Since malloc() is an interface to sbrk, it does the same thing. > > > > > > True, except that malloc(3) now uses both sbrk(2) and mmap(2) > > > allocators, depending on the user-settable flags > > > in /etc/malloc.conf, MALLOC_OPTIONS and the global variable > > > _malloc_options. So you have to look into mmap(2) too. > > > > Good point. From the man page: > > "Any such extension beyond the end of the mapped object will be > > zero-filled." > > and > > "A successful mmap deletes any previous mapping in the allocated > > address range." > > > The above quote refers to zeroing the fraction of a page that's left > over when "len" isn't a multiple of the page size. The above quote states that the memory not occupied by the remapped object is zero filled. Which is to say that memory allocated by mmap() is either filled with new data or filled with zeros. > However, there's a > comment in malloc.c about mmap'ed regions being zeroed, so I guess they > are, but it doesn't seem to be mentioned at all in mmap(2). It is mentioned, in the first sentence I quoted. > The reason I thought that heap memory isn't zeroed is from the > discussion of pre-zeroed pages in this article: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/prefault-optimizations.html > > It reads as if the BSS region is the only significant user of zeroed > pages. It appears to me to say that any virtual pages allocated to a process are pre-zeroed, which would include the BSS segment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Password theft from memory?
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:46:33PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Bob Hall wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 03:18:46PM +0100, RW wrote: > >> I don't believe the heap is allocated zeroed pages. The kernel > >> does allocate such pages to the BSS segment, but that's because it > >> holds zeroed data such as C static variables. > > > > According to McKusick and Neville-Neil's book on FreeBSD, sbrk extends > > the uninitialized data segment with zero-filled pages. Since malloc() is > > an interface to sbrk, it does the same thing. > > True, except that malloc(3) now uses both sbrk(2) and mmap(2) allocators, > depending on the user-settable flags in /etc/malloc.conf, MALLOC_OPTIONS > and the global variable _malloc_options. So you have to look into mmap(2) > too. Good point. From the man page: "Any such extension beyond the end of the mapped object will be zero-filled." and "A successful mmap deletes any previous mapping in the allocated address range." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Password theft from memory?
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 03:18:46PM +0100, RW wrote: > I don't believe the heap is allocated zeroed pages. The kernel > does allocate such pages to the BSS segment, but that's because it > holds zeroed data such as C static variables. According to McKusick and Neville-Neil's book on FreeBSD, sbrk extends the uninitialized data segment with zero-filled pages. Since malloc() is an interface to sbrk, it does the same thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Image activator
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:48:38AM +0530, akash kumar wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone throw light on what ELF image activators is all about and point > me to some good articles on it. You mean the thingy that starts execution of a file by setting up process memory and remapping the text and initialized data segments into the low part of the address space and setting up the user stack? Aside from a brief mention in McKusick's and Neville-Neil's book on FreeBSD, I haven't found anything on it. I think this is a case of RTFS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
statclock vs softclock
I hope this is the correct forum. I'm reading The Design & Implementation of the FreeBSD OS by McKusick & Neville-Neil, & I'm a little confused about statclock( ) and softclock( ). According to the book, statclock( ) ticks 128 times per second, and recalculates the priority of the current process every four ticks. If the recalculated priority is less than the current priority, it reschedules the process. However, on the same page, the book says that softclock( ) recalculates priorities once per second, and also reschedules processes. I must not be understanding something, because it seems to me that the book is saying that there are two routines doing the same thing and getting in each other's way. Can someone straighten me out? http://flylib.com/books/en/2.849.1.44/1 Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Simple command to reset / clear all logs?
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 08:21:45PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 02:17:10 +0900, Ryuichiro Hara wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > It might be all right to remove all "normal file" logs,
> > though you may want to retain all subdirectories.
> >
> > find /var/log -type f -exec rm {} \;
> >
> > may do.
>
> Possible problem: Programs that log to files may be confused
> that the file has disappeared. How about simply cutting the
> files to zero length?
>
> # cat /dev/null > /var/log/*
or # truncate -s 0 /var/log/*
That will save you two keystrokes, and that's important! ;-)
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Portupgrade status [Was Re: Portmaster general questions and problems]
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 11:39:58AM -0800, Ron (Lists) wrote: > But, due to portupgrade no longer being maintained and failing to work > anymore, I'm a bit confused about this. I did a quick google search and saw that someone had stopped maintaining portupgrade, but I also saw things that suggested that other people were maintaining it. The handbook continues to list it ahead of portmanager and portmaster, with no mention that it isn't being maintained. I've never stopped using portupgrade, and it has always worked. Updates come through periodically, two in the past month. For a port that isn't being maintained, it seems to be remarkably well maintained. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Bluray Driver support
I've been working with an outside customer on development system running FreeBSD. Their intention is to incorporate a bluray drive into the system. Unfortunately the one's they claim have FreeBSD support are END of Life. That was a Matshita BD-MLT SW-5584. Last week I sent a request to this email address and received the attached response. I never received a followup so I can only assume it was deemed to be spam and so it received no followup. I don't feel the need to register and enter forums as the customer only wants us to configure a system that will operate with your version of Unix. Please help direct this query to someone that can be of assistance. Or redirect me to an up to date driver listing for FreeBSD. I've spent numerous hours on the FreeBSD website and can't find anything other than some loosely worded support for some CD drives but not specifically DVD or Bluray. Best Regards, Bob Brower AMD Hardware Test Engineering 90 Central Street Boxboro, MA 01719 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail --- Begin Message --- Your mail to 'freebsd-questions' with the subject Driver Query Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: SpamAssassin identified this message as possible spam Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/confirm/freebsd-questions/0bb56fe8077cafae76cde9cb3dff43b00807337d PLEASE NOTE! If you would like to post freely to the list, please subscribe first. If you post from multiple addresses, you can subscribe each address and go into the options page and select 'no mail' for all but one address. This will allow you to post without delay in the future. Sorry for the hassle, but certain immature people made this necessary. --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Greybeards (Re: Netbooks & BSD)
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >> Matthias Apitz wrote: > >>> El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline > >>> escribi?: > PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX > 780 days :-) > >>> I booted my first UNIX V7 tape on a PDP-11 around 1982, I think. > >> > >> Gotcha beat :) UNIX V6, PDP-11/34, RK05 disk cartridge, 1975. > >> The whole runtime fit on one RK05. The sources took a second one. > > > > I remember the 11/34 fondly. The whole EE department at Cory > > Hall was running one one; then when I interned at Livermore my > > job of porting the "Portable F77 Compiler" was done with vi and > > the source code that Stu Feldman wrote. I love[d] those bloody > > old computers, :-) Dunno why. Maybe because they really > > *were* about computing. Not streaming [[whatever]] or having > > php running. (Blah^9^9^9) > > > > :) > > Heck, when I started out, they didn't even have zeros and ones yet. > We had to settle for "o"s and "l"s ... When I started out, we didn't have read/write heads for the hard disks. We had to copy the data from the screen to the disk by hand using magnetized sewing needles. In order to read the damn things we had to pass a compass over the disk and see where the needle deflected. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Little question about device driver name
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:04:06PM +0200, David DEMELIER wrote: > Hi folks, > > I just wonder why if_bridge(4) is prefixed by if_ for device name. > Every other device name like lagg(4), gif(4) are not prefixed with > this same one. if_bridge was based on bridge. I assume that when the updated if_bridge was introduced, the earlier bridge was still available, so the author needed some way to distinguish his new module from the earlier module. Type "man bridge" and check the Authors section. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is this bunk.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: > Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), > they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get > much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. If the kernel is the basis of an OS, then OS X is basically the Mach kernel. The userland part of early versions of OS X borrowed heavily from NetBSD, but much of this has been replaced with FreeBSD in later version. Or so I'm told. As someone else has pointed out, Apple has made some important contributions to NFS, so they are not exactly free riders. > Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for > instance. NT had a notoriously unstable network stack. It suddenly became more stable with Win2k, which turned out to be due to the replacement of much of the code with code taken from FreeBSD, which has a famously stable network stack. People who claim to have seen the MS code say that large parts of it are unchanged from the original FBSD code, and include the original comments. As far as I know, that code is still being used. > This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code > in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. And the wonderful thing about the proliferation of open source licenses is that you can pick a project with a license that you approve of and never have to have your code encumbered by a license you feel is inferior. The people who use FBSD and the wonderful people who produce it obviously feel that the FBSD license is the sort of license that they want to support. You are free to pity our delusions and choose a project with a more enlightened approach. Best of luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:27AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Beastie is the mascot, and the sex toy is the logo. It is only the > > mascot that the OP objected to. He didn't mention any objections to the > > logo. > > Actually, the OP said logo and made no mention of mascott. In that case, I'm glad I was able to contribute my share of misinformation and confusion to this thread. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:52:07AM +0200, ?? wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0600 > Dale Scott wrote: > > > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the > > Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, > > Wendy andHotStuff. However, I also accept there are individuals who > > understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be > > alienating them to my detriment. It seems consumer products need to > > be mindful of cultural differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger > > community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, > > would it? > > > > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal > > conflict with the mascot or logo, band together and propose a > > complementary alternate symbol. I don't mean flooding the mail list > > (it's obvious we can do that on our own), I'm talking about difficult > > time-consuming organization, lobbying, and support gathering. For me, > > I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but > > I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned > > mascots and logos either. > > > > Dale Scott > > > > Personally, I tried to stay out of this conversion (because it's OT and > I find all religions annoying). But, anyway, IIRC, the reason why > our nice little beastie is no longer the official FreeBSD logo, is the > sentiments you just mentioned. There was a discussion about this years > ago on one of the mailing lists (I don't remember which one anymore), > which resulted in a contest, and the result is the horned ball logo you > find on the top of www.freebsd.org. This is also the reason why we > have to add 'beastie_disable="NO"' to /boot/loader.conf after a fresh > install now. So, please, refrain from calling for yet another new logo. Beastie is the mascot, and the sex toy is the logo. It is only the mascot that the OP objected to. He didn't mention any objections to the logo. As far as marketing products to a wide range of buyers, googling for "red devil" gets me Red Devil home repair and refinishing products Red Devil Italian Restaraunt Red Devil Equipment Co. Red Devil Lounge Red Devil Energy drink Red Devil snow blowers Red Devil hot sauce Red Devil Records Red Devil brakes Red Devil pedicab service Red Devil fire training and consuling You'll get a similar list if you google for "blue devil". So it seems that Beastie has lots of company out there in product land. Images of devils seem to be successful in marketing products. I don't believe that creating an alternative to Beastie is going to do anything to increase FBSD market share. My best wishes to the OP. I hope he finds something he's comfortable with. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Directory Passwords
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 02:52:59PM -0400, Mike Robins wrote: > Hi there, I currently am running a FreeBSD/Samba server for my company > with public shares for all of the employees to keep their work related > documents in. I'm wondering if it is possible for me to keep these shares > public and add a password to each sub directory in the public share? This > would mean I could give each department a sub directory that only they > would know the password to and keep the sensitive documents away from > public view. Any password known to a group of people quickly becomes public knowledge. If you really need to restrict access to a share, this won't do it securely. In jobs I've had where it was necessary to restrict access to network shares, there was a central security server that was aware of me after I successfully logged on to my computer, and automatically gave me access to any share that a project manager had given me rights to, while blocking me from any share to which no project manager had given me rights. I'm pretty sure you can integrate Samba into such a system, but how to do it is a Samba related question, not a FreeBSD question. Best of luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Bob Falanga wants to chat
--- Bob Falanga wants to stay in better touch using some of Google's coolest new products. If you already have Gmail or Google Talk, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/b-57cb37aca1-9b1131bce3-X-GTz_KWexz0X-oykVWNas5Ui74 You'll need to click this link to be able to chat with Bob Falanga. To get Gmail - a free email account from Google with over 2,800 megabytes of storage - and chat with Bob Falanga, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/a-57cb37aca1-9b1131bce3-X-GTz_KWexz0X-oykVWNas5Ui74 Gmail offers: - Instant messaging right inside Gmail - Powerful spam protection - Built-in search for finding your messages and a helpful way of organizing emails into "conversations" - No pop-up ads or untargeted banners - just text ads and related information that are relevant to the content of your messages All this, and its yours for free. But wait, there's more! By opening a Gmail account, you also get access to Google Talk, Google's instant messaging service: http://www.google.com/talk/ Google Talk offers: - Web-based chat that you can use anywhere, without a download - A contact list that's synchronized with your Gmail account - Free, high quality PC-to-PC voice calls when you download the Google Talk client We're working hard to add new features and make improvements, so we might also ask for your comments and suggestions periodically. We appreciate your help in making our products even better! Thanks, The Google Team To learn more about Gmail and Google Talk, visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about.html http://www.google.com/talk/about.html (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:45:38AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > Another possibility, if you haven't considered it, is using sed to > convert everything. If you know all the characters that need to be Never mind. I just remembered about the garbage at the beginning of doc files. I had forgotten that I using both sed and awk to deal with that when I was working with doc files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:53:39PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thursday 27 May 2010 05:18:07 pm Bob Hall wrote: > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:36:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > ps: antiword same as catdoc. back to my per substitutions. > > > that works, along with vi's Builtin subs. > > > > Have you considered using whatever replaces the most special characters, > > and fixing the few characters that remain with sed? > > exactly!!! Another possibility, if you haven't considered it, is using sed to convert everything. If you know all the characters that need to be swapped out, you can write a sed script that will do it for you in one pass. If you don't know sed, creating the script may be a PITA, but you'll only have to do it once, and then you can reuse the script whenever needed. As I recall, the hard part is figuring out how to represent the special characters in sed. It's been a few years since I used sed on doc files, but I recall that the character codes that displayed on my screen were not the codes that I needed to use in sed scripts. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: any shortcuts to doc to ascii?
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:36:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > ps: antiword same as catdoc. back to my per substitutions. > that works, along with vi's Builtin subs. Have you considered using whatever replaces the most special characters, and fixing the few characters that remain with sed? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Autoresponders [pa...@magi.magidesign.com: [#24508600] Re: Need advise.]
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:37:22PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > Headers attached, so we can stop this nonsense in the future. I've gotten the same thing, and I'm a bit confused. What exactly is going on? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Question not found in FAQs or other documentation
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 05:57:35PM -0400, jon wrote: > To whom it concerns, > > I am a relatively basic/amateur computer user and I just noticed > today that my "recent servers" lists "Free BSD". > > I do not knowingly connect to any outside servers and am concerned > that any server has been connected to my computer. > > My question is: how can I prevent this server from ever connecting to > my computer again? And anything else I can do to delete this server, > this connection Out of curiosity, I looked in the "Recent Servers" list in a couple of Macs that I have, and the only thing I could find were local file servers. A server is a process that accepts requests for services. Typically, they don't iniciate connections. As near as I can tell from the Mac documentation, the "Recent Servers" list is a list of servers that you've connected to, and nothing more. I suggest clicking on the item in your "Recent Servers" list and finding out what you connect to. If you have any further questions you should post them in a Mac forum, since the question of which servers you've been connected to really has nothing to do with the Free BSD operating system. Best of luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Why is Qemu not in Handbook
For years I used Qemu to run Windows XP under FreeBSD. It worked fine. A few months ago I saw a message that VirtualBox was now working correctly under FreeBSD. So I tried to install it and it wouldn't build. But that's not the actual topic of my question. In the process of trying to install VirtualBox I noticed that Qemu is not mentioned in the Handbook. It's not even mentioned under "Other Virtualization Options". So my actual question is: Why is Qemu not mentioned in the Handbook? There is already a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=127923 Even just a mention with a link to http://wiki.freebsd.org/qemu would be helpful. Thanks, -- -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Setting firewall symbolic constants
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 04:17:22PM -0500, Walter wrote:
> >>Can these be set by the system automatically? Specifically
> >>$firewall_simple_onet?
My first response never showed up. Second try.
I use
onet=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $6}'`
where rl0 is the outward facing NIC on this gateway.
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Re: Setting firewall symbolic constants
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 07:52:57AM -0500, Walter wrote:
> Can these be set by the system automatically? Specifically
> $firewall_simple_onet?
I use
onet=`ifconfig | grep "inet " | awk '{print $6}'`
where if is rl0 or em0 or whatever the outward facing interface is for
your system.
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Re: tuning vfs.zfs.vdev.max_pending and solving the issue of ZFS writes choking read IO
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Dan Nelson wrote: I had similar problems on a 32GB Solaris server at work. Note that with compression enabled, the entire system pauses while it compresses the outgoing block of data. It's just a fraction of a second, but long enough for end-users to complain about bad performance in X sessions. I had to throttle back to a 256MB write limit size to make the stuttering go away completely. It didn't affect write throughput much at all. Apparently this was a kernel thread priority problem in Solaris. It is apparently fixed in recent versions of OpenSolaris. The fix required adding a scheduling class which allowed the kernel thread doing the compression to be less than the priority of normal user processes (such as the X11 server). Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: tuning vfs.zfs.vdev.max_pending and solving the issue of ZFS writes choking read IO
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Dan Naumov wrote: Has anyone done any extensive testing of the effects of tuning vfs.zfs.vdev.max_pending on this issue? Is there some universally recommended value beyond the default 35? Anything else I should be looking at? The vdev.max_pending value is primarily used to tune for SAN/HW-RAID LUNs and is used to dial down LUN service time (svc_t) values by limiting the number of pending requests. It is not terribly useful for decreasing stalls due to zfs writes. In order to reduce the impact of zfs writes, you want to limit the maximum size of a zfs transaction group (TXG). I don't know what the FreeBSD tunable is for this, but under Solaris it is zfs:zfs_write_limit_override. On a large-memory system, a properly working zfs should not saturate the write channel for more than 5 seconds. Zfs tries to learn the write bandwidth so that it can tune the TXG size up to 5 seconds (max) worth of writes. If you have both large memory and fast storage, quite a huge amount of data can be written in 5 seconds. On my Solaris system, I found that zfs was quite accurate with its rate estimation, but it resulted in four gigabytes of data being written per TXG. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
fdisk fails with "Class not found"
I am trying to change the sysid of a slice (partition) on my disk from 5 to 165. When it gets to the point of writing sector 0 it always fails with: fdisk: Class not found fdisk: Failed to write sector zero Can someone please tell me what this means, and how do I fix it? I have included the output from an fdisk attempt below. Thanks, Bob r...@tavion:10 /usr/home/bob> fdisk -uv *** Working on device /dev/ad4 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n] Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 524286945 (255999 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 Do you want to change it? [n] The data for partition 2 is: sysid 5 (0x05),(Extended DOS) start 524297340, size 452470725 (220932 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 14/ sector 63 Do you want to change it? [n] y Supply a decimal value for "sysid (165=FreeBSD)" [5] 165 Supply a decimal value for "start" [524297340] Supply a decimal value for "size" [452470725] Explicitly specify beg/end address ? [n] sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 524297340, size 452470725 (220932 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 968/ head 4/ sector 1; end: cyl 311/ head 14/ sector 63 Are we happy with this entry? [n] y The data for partition 3 is: Do you want to change it? [n] The data for partition 4 is: Do you want to change it? [n] Partition 1 is marked active Do you want to change the active partition? [n] We haven't changed the partition table yet. This is your last chance. parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Information from DOS bootblock is: 1: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 524286945 (255999 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 2: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 524297340, size 452470725 (220932 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 968/ head 4/ sector 1; end: cyl 311/ head 14/ sector 63 3: 4: Should we write new partition table? [n] y fdisk: Class not found fdisk: Failed to write sector zero -- Bob Willcox Stock's Observation: b...@immure.com You no sooner get your head above water Austin, TX but what someone pulls your flippers off. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturallynot the administrator root"
On 2/12/10, Jason Lin wrote: > I try this method, after set the password of "toor", > I can't login with the account "toor". It is possible (I don't remember) that the "toor" account does not have a shell in the default passwd file. If that's the problem, use vipw to add the path to a shell as the last field on the line. The "root" account should provide a good example, or look at the line for your own user account. "/bin/csh" should work for recent versions of FreeBSD. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root"
On 2/11/10, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:58:07PM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > >> On 2/11/10, Robert Huff wrote: >> > >> > Lin Taosheng writes: >> > >> >> Is that possible to implementated? >> > >> >> Yes, use vipw to edit the password file. Add another username that is >> UID zero. The name "toor" is actually already there as an example of >> how to do that, but it is disabled because it has a "*" in the >> password field. After the new username is tested and you know it >> works, use vipw to replace the password field for "root" to an "*". >> Then root will still exist, but it will not be possible to log in to >> it. You could also delete the entire line for "root", but that gets >> farther into unusual territory and increases the chance that you will >> break something else by doing so. > > If I take what the OP said literally, you are answering backwards. > The OP asked if it is possible to name a different account root - eg > one that is not UID 0.You are answering that it is possible to > give an account other than root a UID 0. > > Now, the OP may have meant to ask what you are answering and just > got it mixed up. But, that was not the way the question went. Oops. Rats. When I started my reply I had it right, but by the time I finished I had confused myself. Thanks. Anyway, it's possible, but in practice it probably won't work right, and doesn't do much for security anyway. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HELP! Is that possible "creating a user named root but acturally not the administrator root"
On 2/11/10, Robert Huff wrote: > > Lin Taosheng writes: > >> Is that possible to implementated? > Yes, use vipw to edit the password file. Add another username that is UID zero. The name "toor" is actually already there as an example of how to do that, but it is disabled because it has a "*" in the password field. After the new username is tested and you know it works, use vipw to replace the password field for "root" to an "*". Then root will still exist, but it will not be possible to log in to it. You could also delete the entire line for "root", but that gets farther into unusual territory and increases the chance that you will break something else by doing so. > For most purposes, what's important is not the account name, > but the User II. "Root" is special because it has UID 0. You can, > create other accounts with UIS 0 ... but it's usually a Very Bad > Idea. I know of no reason that this would be a bad idea. It is in fact useful in some situations to have more than one admin account, enough so that about a decade ago some effort was put into making sure it works properly when you do that in FreeBSD. > As far as I know, there's no reason you can't rename the "root" > account and have a non UID 0 account with that name. On the other > hand, if you're asking this question there may be a better way to > accomplish your objective: would you care to share? Having an account named "root" that is not UID 0 (i.e. not an administrator), is likely to have unexpected side effects that you probably won't like. So even though it has theoretical security advantages (because unlike Windows, you can't remotely query FreeBSD and ask it the name of its administrator account), it probably isn't a good idea. A quick search turned up problems when people tried this in Debian, and I would expect similar issues in FreeBSD. But if you try it, I'd love to hear the result. If you are worried about remote logins to the root account, that is actually disabled by default in FreeBSD. The biggest hazard you face in that area is that if you configure SSH to use PAM login, the PAM subsystem can allow remote root logins when you think they are disabled. You have to be careful to configure SSH (and anything else that uses PAM) correctly in that situation. - Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: this may be impossible: iis there a way to play streams on our firefox?
On 2/4/10, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Adam Vande More > wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Mike Clarke >> wrote: >> >>> Is it just me or is the flash plugin still not fully functional? I'm [...] >>> >> >> I don't have either of those issues. I've come across a couple of players >> that don't work, but all the standard ones like youtube, pbs, bbc all work >> perfectly for me. >> > > I would like to amemd that statement by saying they work perfectly for me > except for an occasional temporary browser freeze. This occur when entering > or leaving a page at which point the entire browser will hang for maybe 30 > seconds then recover and perform as usual. This a random event, but > probably occurs at least daily. When I upgraded one of my systems a few months ago, it had that symptom, except it happened every time I entered a page that included flash. I ended up uninstalling flash because it was too annoying and I didn't really need it on that system. More recently, I set up a system with flash and it works fine except that in YouTube I often have to refresh the page to get the video to load. For some reason the player doesn't seem to initialize when I enter the page, but reloading it always works ok. I suspect most of the problems people are having with Flash 10 have to do with lingering old libraries or something like that. A brute force rebuild of all ports might fix them. Also, pay attention to the correct make.conf settings for the Linux kernel stuff. -- -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Swap Partition First?
The only thing that looks out of place is that you have defined ad0s1-2 before ad0s1-1. I've never tested it, but perhaps this is causing it to get confused when calculating the disk layout? In other words, perhaps you should use #1G swap followed by / on rest of disk. # ad0s1-1=swap 2097152 #All the rest is FreeBSD with soft updates. ad0s1-2=ufs 0 / 1 so they are defined in numerical sequence. On 1/27/10, Martin McCormick wrote: > Our FreeBSD systems mostly have a very simple disk layout. There > is a 1 or 2-gigabyte swap partition and all the rest is FreeBSD. > When manually configuring these partitions in sysinstall, I > usually set up swap first with a 1GB size and then use the > remaining space by selecting the values as defaults. > > An attempt to script this in an install.cfg file is not > going well. The disk formatting part of the file is as follows: > > disk=ad0 > partition=all > bootManager=none > diskPartitionEditor > #Entire disk is FreeBSD. > diskPartitionWrite > > > > # All sizes are expressed in 512 byte blocks! > # > #1G swap followed by / on rest of disk. > # > ad0s1-2=swap 2097152 > #All the rest is FreeBSD with soft updates. > ad0s1-1=ufs 0 / 1 > # Let's do it! > diskLabelEditor > diskLabelCommit > > # OK, everything is set. Do it! > installCommit > > This doesn't work. sysinstall reports that it can't > write the swap space. > > fdisk reports a FreeBSD partition and all the others are > shown as free. > > Any ideas? Thank you. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 8.0-RELEASE/amd64 - full ZFS install - low read and write disk performance
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, Dan Naumov wrote: I've checked with the manufacturer and it seems that the Sil3124 in this NAS is indeed a PCI card. More info on the card in question is available at http://green-pcs.co.uk/2009/01/28/tranquil-bbs2-those-pci-cards/ I have the card described later on the page, the one with 4 SATA ports and no eSATA. Alright, so it being PCI is probably a bottleneck in some ways, but that still doesn't explain the performance THAT bad, considering that same hardware, same disks, same disk controller push over 65mb/s in both reads and writes in Win2008. And agian, I am pretty sure that I've had "close to expected" results when I was The slow PCI bus and this card look like the bottleneck to me. Remember that your Win2008 tests were with just one disk, your zfs performance with just one disk was similar to Win2008, and your zfs performance with a mirror was just under 1/2 that. I don't think that your performance results are necessarily out of line for the hardware you are using. On an old Sun SPARC workstation with retrofitted 15K RPM drives on Ultra-160 SCSI channel, I see a zfs mirror write performance of 67,317KB/second and a read performance of 124,347KB/second. The drives themselves are capable of 100MB/second range performance. Similar to yourself, I see 1/2 the write performance due to bandwidth limitations. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
NDIS panics (Was: Can I rescan for new PCI devices? Or should hotplugging Expresscards work?)
On 1/9/10, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 12/16/09, Bob Johnson wrote: >> I'm using an ExpressCard for wireless networking because there seems >> to be no driver for the internal card in my laptop (and NDIS panics >> the system). The Expresscard shows up as a PCI device and works fine, > > How are you using NDIS and when system panic what is displayed? I tried to use ndisgen with the internal Dell 1397 card. I don't have details available right now, although if you need them I can try it again. When I did the kldload the system spit out error messages about unknown symbols and then panic-ed. I did some searching of the archives and found a message describing the same symptoms, and the response posted was that it indicated that the Windows driver made API calls that were not implemented in the NDIS wrapper. This was a 64-bit Windows driver and an amd64 FreeBSD system. Similar results in both FreeBSD 7.2 and 8.0. It appears that kern/132672 is describing the same or a very similar issue. It also suggests that there is a more fundamental problem than the unrecognized symbols. I can try to reproduce the problem tonight if you want me to. Thanks, -- -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: re-write is this booting info correct?
On 12/28/09, Fbsd1 wrote: > > > How is this rewrite correct? [...] > > corrupted by a virus. Microsoft/Windows provides no native method of > selecting which partition to boot from in a multiple partition allocation. Windows NT and XP both use a built-in boot loader that can be used to select the boot partition. You can use it to dual-boot Windows and FreeBSD, or multiple versions of Windows (or both). There is a FreeBSD FAQ that explains how to configure it at (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER). Basically, you edit the c:\boot.ini file and do a bit of other magic. In Vista and Windows 7 it changed to some new method that can still boot your choice of partitions, but the native configuration tool provided can only configure it to boot different versions of Windows. To configure it to boot FreeBSD you need a third-party tool (EasyBCD is popular). -- -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: copying a disk with ignoring errors
On 1/5/10, Yuri Pankov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:31:46PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> I recall a case when I had a hard disk that had got bad sectors and >> it wasn't accessible through normal mounting anymore. >> Then a tool came into the game that - I believe - Poul Henning had >> recommended or written for this purpose. >> >> It copies a disk sector by sector to a file (kind of dd), but >> ignores errors, it just skips sectors it couldn't read (after a >> couple >> of retries). The result was, that one had a - albeit - worm-eaten - >> image of the disk allowing to access the filesystem >> and getting to the important files with a little luck these not >> being amongst the corrupted data. >> >> Anyone knowing what this little tool was named? Something like >> diskcopy, devcopy, I forgot. >> >> -- >> Christoph > > dd conv=noerror? I think you need sync also. E.g. dd if=/dev/ad3 of=disk.img bs=512 conv=sync,noerror will replace the unreadable blocks with blocks of NULs. -- -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: snd_hda blues
It is likely that whomever is able to help you will need additional information. You can get this information by rebooting your system and selecting "Boot FreeBSD with verbose logging" from the boot menu. After it boots, use "grep hdac /var/run/dmesg.boot" to extract the detailed information about your sound system configuration and post it back to freebsd-questions. If I have time I will try to look through the info and come up with a suggestion, but I must warn you in advance that I am unlikely to find the time in the next few days, so post the info to the list to give others a chance to look at it. - Bob On 1/4/10, Sandra Kachelmann wrote: > I am trying to get my HDA based soundcard work on both output jacks > (back by the card and on the jack on top of the tower). > > With earlier FreeBSD versions I was able to have my speakers plugged in > on the back of my soundcard and whenever I would plug in the headphones > on the top of the tower the speakers would mute and the sound would > play on the headphones. > > Now this doesn't work anymore. The speakers work but plugging in the > "top tower jack" won't do anything. > > Looking at man snd_hda I tried all the examples (adding stuff > to /boot/device.hints). None of the examples did what I wanted. > > By googling a little bit I found a dude who had the same problem so I > simply copied the device.hints lines that solved his problem. > > The following lines make my headphones work: > > hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid22.config="as=1 seq=15" > hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid24.config="as=3" > hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid26.config="as=1" > hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid29.config="as=2" > > However, after that my speakers are mute, all the time. If anyone could > help me restoring the old snd_hda behaviour I would be very thankful > since I don't quite understand what the snd_hda manpage is trying to > tell me (sorry, I really tried...). > > Here are the information I think might help: > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 0 > nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex > default) > > Any help is gratefully apreciated. > > Sandra > _______ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Can I rescan for new PCI devices? Or should hotplugging Expresscards work?
I'm using an ExpressCard for wireless networking because there seems to be no driver for the internal card in my laptop (and NDIS panics the system). The Expresscard shows up as a PCI device and works fine, except that it must be in the system at boot time to be recognized. Judging by old posts I found on the topic, it appears that automated hotplugging of PCI devices is probably still work in progress, but is there a way to manually have the system rescan for PCI devices so I don't have to reboot when I insert the network card? I'm using 8.0 RELEASE amd64. Thanks! -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 8.0-RELEASE and "dangerously dedicated" disks
On 11/28/09, Peggy Wilkins wrote: > Can someone elaborate on what exactly this statement in the 8.0 > detailed release notes means? > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html#FS > >> 2.2.5 File Systems >> >> “dangerously dedicated” mode for the UFS file system is no longer >> supported. >> >> Important: Such disks will need to be reformatted to work with this >> release. > [...snip...] > > It doesn't make sense to me that "dangerously dedicated" could have an > impact on UFS filesystems specifically. A partition table is just a > partition table, regardless of what filesystems might be written on > disks, yes? Am I misunderstanding something here? > Unless someone has changed the meaning of the term in the last few years, a "dangerously dedicated" disk is one that has the FreeBSD file system on it with no partition table. It is basically an artifact of the pre-Microsoft origin of BSD (there were reasons it stayed around, but they ought to be ancient history by now). Since UFS is the standard FreeBSD filesystem, DD disks contain UFS filesystems almost by definition. So, to get to the main point of your confusion (and unless I am the one that is very confused), "dangerously dedicated" disks do not have partition tables. That's what makes them dangerous. It confuses things that expect to find a partition table. If your partition name has an "s" (slice number) in it (e.g. ad2s1a) it is not "dangerously dedicated". A "DD" disk partition would have a name like "ad2a" with no slice number. At least, that's the way it used to be. I quit using DD disks years ago when it became clear to me that the unintended side effects aren't worth the few bytes you save. Every once in a while a BIOS, or a utility, or something else pops up that expects to find a partition table and gets confused without it. It appears that it has happened again. > Thanks for helping to clear up my confusion... I hope I helped. -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Support for Hauppauge 950Q USB tuner
Can the 950Q HDTV tuner be made to work with FreeBSD? The device is identified by dmesg but of course the Hauppauge firmware must be somehow transfered to the device and then something like the Linux dvb-apps must be used for tuning and streaming. My intent is use the 950 with Zotac IONITX mobo which has Intel ION and Nvidia chipsets. Mplayer must have vdpau enabled. I am not fond of MythTv, in case anyone is wondering. =Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)
On 10/26/09, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:07:45 +, Arthur Chance > wrote: >> The distinction you make is one >> I've not come across before, and I've worked with computers for nearly >> 40 years. > Same here. I've always been told they were completely interchangeable. I do recall that when floppy drives appeared for personal computers in the late '70s and early '80s, there was some argument about the correct spelling. The claim was that "disc" was correct, and that some ignorant hobbyist at a new computer company had misspelled it as "disk" and it stuck. But IBM used the "disk" spelling long before that, so I don't think that was really what happened. Looking in the OED, I find that "disk" was the original spelling, and in the late 1800s "disc" became popular, then around 1950 "disk" started regaining popularity, largely in the computer industry. - Bob -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:48:55AM -0400, PJ wrote: > Bob Hall wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 05:36:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > > >> Bob Hall wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 02:34:40AM +, Mark wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Actually, this has got very little to do with being a native English > >>>> speaker or not. It's ere a matter of intonation (which, in writing, can > >>>> only be conveyed to a certain degree, of course). 'Should' can certainly > >>>> mean "Don't try that." As in: > >>>> > >>>> Will the ice hold me? > >>>> Well, technically it should. > >>>> > >>>> (Meaning: it probably will, but I'm not overly confident.) > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Actually, what's happening here is dropping part of a sentence. It's > >>> common in English to shorten > >>> Yea, it should work, but it doesn't. > >>> > >>> > >> Absolutely not! There is nothing to suggest either statement above. If > >> one says it should work, it can mean (of course, it changes within > >> different contexts) that all is ok and normal conditions (whatever they > >> may be) will allow things to function correctly. There is certainly no > >> implication about confidence... where do you get that? > >> > > > > >From common English usage. Specifically, where? Australia, England, > > >Russia, France, USA, Canada... Again, that is your personal interpretation > > >and certainly not "common English usage." Or better yet, try common sense. > > >Or, better yet, you *should* go back to school. The third edition of Fowler's Modern English Usage gives British and American usage. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage concentrates more on American usage. I don't have access to any specifically Australian or Canadian reference books. Anyone interested in the topic can look up the use of "should" as a modal verb and see what is common usage. My compliments to the authors of the man page for their clear and concise use of English. My complements to Polytropan for spotting the fact that "should" was being used as a modal verb, even if he didn't call it that. My compliments to Warren Block for submitting the PR. I believe that's my cue to exit the thread. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 05:36:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Bob Hall wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 02:34:40AM +, Mark wrote: > > > >> Actually, this has got very little to do with being a native English > >> speaker or not. It's ere a matter of intonation (which, in writing, can > >> only be conveyed to a certain degree, of course). 'Should' can certainly > >> mean "Don't try that." As in: > >> > >> Will the ice hold me? > >> Well, technically it should. > >> > >> (Meaning: it probably will, but I'm not overly confident.) > >> > > > > Actually, what's happening here is dropping part of a sentence. It's > > common in English to shorten > > Yea, it should work, but it doesn't. > > > Absolutely not! There is nothing to suggest either statement above. If > one says it should work, it can mean (of course, it changes within > different contexts) that all is ok and normal conditions (whatever they > may be) will allow things to function correctly. There is certainly no > implication about confidence... where do you get that? >From common English usage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 02:34:40AM +, Mark wrote: > Actually, this has got very little to do with being a native English > speaker or not. It's ere a matter of intonation (which, in writing, can > only be conveyed to a certain degree, of course). 'Should' can certainly > mean "Don't try that." As in: > > Will the ice hold me? > Well, technically it should. > > (Meaning: it probably will, but I'm not overly confident.) Actually, what's happening here is dropping part of a sentence. It's common in English to shorten Yea, it should work, but it doesn't. to Yea, it should work. In order to catch the meaning, you have to be aware of context. Contrary to the OP's claim, this shows a pretty good grasp of English idiom. It's definitely not evidence that the man author is not a native speaker of English. On the other hand, it can be clarified so that the meaning is clear even without context. If the OP really believes that the present wording is a problem, other people have made suggestions on what to do about it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 07:27:42PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:54:23 -0400, PJ wrote: > >> but from man tunefs: > >> BUGS > >> This utility should work on active file systems. > >> What in hades does this mean--just above it says cannot be run on active > >> file systems. ??? > >> > > > > It "should". This means: Don't try that. :-) > > > > My printer isn't printing! > > But it should. > > No, it is not printing! > > Yes, but it should. > > :-) > > > > > Aha! Gotcha! Whoever wrote that has made an unintentionnal booboo. It is > a subtle difference and is indicative that whoever wrote it is not a > native english user... the meaning is clearly "should be executed, done, > carried out, performed" - should work means it can be carried out - I > think the author meant to say "should not be done" I'm a native English speaker, and the manual makes perfect sense to me. It's very clear to me that since the statement is in the BUGS section, it means that the utility should, but doesn't. Since it follows a statement that the utility doesn't, the meaning is unambiguous. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Regex Help - Greedy vs. Non-Greedy
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 09:15:25AM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> I'm trying to do a search and replace in vim. I have lines like this:
> http://site1/dir/;
> http://site2/dir/;LastName, FirstName;Phone;
> http://site3/dir/;LastName, FirstName;
> http://site4/dir/;
>
> I'm want to match "http:*" and stop matching at the first ";". My basic
> regex is:
>
> /http:.\+;/
Use "{-}" in place of "+".
/http:.\{-};/
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Re: Restarting hal
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:41:38AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've > > ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set > > up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a > > lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. > > I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on > older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work > properly, problems may occur. I'm going to install FBSD 7 on a PII in a few weeks. We'll see how that goes. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vim port have a lot of broken links ??
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:13:43PM +0200, Kalle Mller wrote: > When I try to install vim from ports it tries 4-5 sites which all have to > time out... and with a 200 files.. thats a lot of timeouts.. Who should I > poke to, so the mirrors would be updated ?? > > -- > > Med Venlig Hilsen Hi Kalle, If several servers are timing out, there's a good chance that the problem is at your end. Either you or your ISP might be having a problem. If you haven't changed anything (hardware, software, configuration, ISP), then the problem is likely to be temporary. If the problem is a spike in activity that's overburdoning the servers, the following may help: /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/fastest-sites Med venlige hilser til deg ogsaa. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Restarting hal
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:57:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:43:50 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Is there a way to get hal to reload its > > configuration withou rebooting? I've tried sending a HUP signal and I've > > tried "rc.d/hal restart", but so far rebooting is the only thing that > > works properly. > > Maybe it's neccessary to restart DBUS as well - just a wild > guess, Yea, someone already e-mailed me and suggested I restart dbus along with hal. I've just recently made the switch to Xorg and I'm still a bit fuzzy about how things interrelate , so it hadn't occurred to me to restart dbus when I reconfigured hal. > im not using DBUS or HAL because I like my X working. :-) Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. Thanks for your response. It's great that there are so many helpful people on this list. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Restarting hal
Thanks to Manolis Kiagias's suggestion, I was able to get ctrl+alt+bksp working in xorg again. However, I've noticed that just restarting hal leaves me with no mouse or keyboard in X. I have to reboot the system to get a mouse & keyboard in X. Is there a way to get hal to reload its configuration withou rebooting? I've tried sending a HUP signal and I've tried "rc.d/hal restart", but so far rebooting is the only thing that works properly. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent
On 6/28/09, Kelly Jones wrote: > I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I > actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do > I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP > address to connect to, etc? I haven't done it in a while, but after you create the .torrent file, you upload the .torrent file to the tracker. That's basically all the "registration" you need to do. The .torrent file contains the information other clients need to download the file. You then start seeding the file with your client, which connects to the tracker and advertises the availability of the file. To seed the file, you basically just do exactly what you would do if you were trying to download the torrent, using the -E or -e option to specify how long you want to seed after the download completes. You should run ctorrent in the directory where you created the torrent (or at least in a directory with a copy of the file and the .torrent file), so it will already have the "downloaded" file. Seeding will begin as soon as it gets itself organized. I THINK that -e 0 will cause it to seed forever, but if not, -e will give you more than a year. I used to use -e 999, which is a little over 41 days. If you want it to get out of your way and hide in the background, run it as a daemon, e.g.: ctorrent -d -e nameoffile.torrent > > Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that? Yes, ctorrent automatically seeds for 72 hours after it finishes the download, and you can adjust that. -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with burncd
On 6/9/09, Carmel wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD-7.2. I attempted to burn a CD; however, > when the burn completes, I receive this message: > > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE); Input/output error. > I have been getting that error message on and off for some time (years) now. The CD comes out ok, though, so I think it is failing after the fixate process is complete. Without a filesystem, you can still get your file back with "dd if=/dev/acd0 of=newfilename.txt bs=2048" where of course newfilename.txt can be whatever you want the new copy to be called. The other issues raised by your post (no filesystem, other software) have been addressed by others, but fwiw I use mkisofs to build the filesystem, and then burncd to burn it to the cd. For storing data on DVDs, growisofs is much more convenient, install it as part of sysutils/dvd+rw-tools. -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: something broke last night. www.freebsd.org offline?
On 5/27/09, Michael Scheidell wrote: > none of my freebsd systems can surf to www.freebsd.org anymore. > > host www.freebsd.org > www.freebsd.org has address 69.147.83.33 > telnet www.freebsd.org 80 > Trying 69.147.83.33... > > on macos. > just hangs. I see the same thing. I don't think the problem is with his system. $ host www.freebsd.org www.freebsd.org has address 69.147.83.33 www.freebsd.org has IPv6 address 2001:4f8:fff6::21 www.freebsd.org mail is handled by 0 . $ telnet www.freebsd.org 80 Trying 69.147.83.33... does nothing. It looks like perhaps yahoo is dropping our packets: $ traceroute www.freebsd.org traceroute to www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 001-152-227-128.unnamed.eng.ufl.edu (128.227.152.1) 0.341 ms 0.313 ms 0.327 ms 2 128.227.45.241 (128.227.45.241) 0.432 ms 0.379 ms 0.370 ms 3 ctx36-nexus-msfc-1-v43-1.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.236.29) 0.431 ms 0.530 ms 0.421 ms 4 ctx36-ewan-msfc-1-v50-1.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.236.86) 0.495 ms 0.493 ms 0.464 ms 5 128.227.0.97 (128.227.0.97) 0.474 ms 0.512 ms 0.480 ms 6 jax-flrcore-7609-1-te31-1806.net.flrnet.org (198.32.155.93) 22.181 ms 51.552 ms 49.658 ms 7 orl-flrcore-7609-1-te21-1.net.flrnet.org (198.32.155.2) 13.231 ms 13.284 ms 13.289 ms 8 mia-flrcore-7609-1-gi12-1.net.flrnet.org (198.32.124.143) 13.373 ms 13.911 ms 13.882 ms 9 nota.bas2.dce.yahoo.com (198.32.124.115) 18.469 ms 13.336 ms 13.330 ms 10 so-1-1-0.pat1.da3.yahoo.com (216.115.101.0) 41.589 ms 41.614 ms 41.600 ms 11 ae1.pat2.da3.yahoo.com (216.115.105.163) 42.018 ms 41.864 ms 41.814 ms 12 as1.pat2.sjc.yahoo.com (216.115.101.151) 86.935 ms 86.555 ms 86.512 ms 13 ae1-p161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.63) 87.049 ms 86.950 ms ae1-p171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.87) 86.777 ms 14 ge-1-47.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.45) 87.212 ms ge-1-41.bas-b2.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.33) 87.142 ms ge-1-47.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.45) 87.376 ms 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * Compare that to freebsd.org (without the www.): $ traceroute freebsd.org traceroute to freebsd.org (69.147.83.40), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 001-152-227-128.unnamed.eng.ufl.edu (128.227.152.1) 0.380 ms 0.320 ms 0.316 ms 2 128.227.45.241 (128.227.45.241) 0.543 ms 0.573 ms 0.492 ms 3 ctx36-nexus-msfc-1-v43-1.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.236.29) 0.425 ms 0.409 ms 0.391 ms 4 ctx36-ewan-msfc-1-v50-1.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.236.86) 0.491 ms 0.461 ms 0.457 ms 5 128.227.0.97 (128.227.0.97) 0.492 ms 0.467 ms 0.460 ms 6 jax-flrcore-7609-1-te31-1806.net.flrnet.org (198.32.155.93) 6.198 ms 5.985 ms 5.933 ms 7 orl-flrcore-7609-1-te21-1.net.flrnet.org (198.32.155.2) 13.370 ms 13.279 ms 13.627 ms 8 mia-flrcore-7609-1-gi12-1.net.flrnet.org (198.32.124.143) 13.357 ms 13.440 ms 13.373 ms 9 nota.bas2.dce.yahoo.com (198.32.124.115) 13.234 ms 15.855 ms 13.211 ms 10 so-1-1-0.pat1.da3.yahoo.com (216.115.101.0) 41.623 ms 41.380 ms 41.543 ms 11 ae1.pat2.da3.yahoo.com (216.115.105.163) 41.944 ms 41.636 ms 41.645 ms 12 as1.pat2.sjc.yahoo.com (216.115.101.151) 86.337 ms 86.170 ms 86.149 ms 13 ae1-p161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.63) 86.777 ms ae1-p171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.87) 86.577 ms ae0-p161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.59) 86.996 ms 14 ge-1-46.bas-b2.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.51) 88.098 ms ge-1-41.bas-b2.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.33) 86.831 ms ge-1-46.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.43) 86.921 ms 15 freefall.freebsd.org (69.147.83.40) 86.617 ms 86.754 ms 86.816 ms - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Inspiron 15 (aka 1545)
On 5/16/09, Bob Johnson wrote: > This question has sort of been asked before, but I never saw a clear > answer, so here it is, in the hope that someone can save me some time: > > I need a cheap, simple, reasonably light laptop, but not a tiny > display, and I'm looking at the Best Buy pre-configured Inspiron 15 > (i.e. Inspiron 1545). Anyone have direct experience with FreeBSD amd64 > on one of these? Is there anything that isn't going to work? > For the benefit of anyone else considering this laptop: I went ahead and bought the thing, and everything I have looked at so far except the Dell Wireless 1397 card is working (and I expect to eventually beat it into submission), although some things took a little extra work. I'm in the process of writing up my experience at http://myfreebsd.tumblr.com > The video is "Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD". If > it works well enough to watch DVDs and the occasional downloaded > video, I'll be happy. Video works with X.org. > > The wireless card is a Dell 1397 802.11b/g. Will I be able to build an > NDIS driver (presumably on 7.2-RELEASE amd64)? No success yet. Dell's most recent 64-bit driver wrapped with ndisgen panics the system when I kldload it. > > Is the ExpressCard 34 slot supported? Don't have a card to test it with yet. > > Best Buy's description is at > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9149414&type=product&id=1218036213682 > Sound works. USB ports work. Haven't tested external video. Got the Yukon wired Ethernet card to work by installing Yukon's proprietary FreeBSD driver (myk). As of today, it appears that there is a patch to the BSD msk driver that will get it working with this card, but I haven't tested it. The "7-function multimedia" slot seems to work, but the only time I've used it to copy data from a card, it was excruciatingly slow. It took hours to copy a 2 GB SD card (kept stalling and moving no data for minutes at a time). I haven't tried to find the reason for that yet, but my vague recollection is that I've run into that problem in the past and was able to fix it. Haven't yet tested the camera, but it is seen by the USB system, so I expect there to be software out there that knows what to do with it. A few quirks that are interesting (e.g. default keyboard mapping). See the blog linked above for details. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Inspiron 15 (aka 1545)
On 5/17/09, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > Bob Johnson skrev: [...] >> I need a cheap, simple, reasonably light laptop, but not a tiny >> display, and I'm looking at the Best Buy pre-configured Inspiron 15 >> (i.e. Inspiron 1545). Anyone have direct experience with FreeBSD amd64 >> on one of these? Is there anything that isn't going to work? [...] >> > Hello Bob > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE amd64 on a Latitude E6500. I ordered it > with a Dell wireless but was unable to make it work. I then upgraded to > an Intel wireless card but it was to new, chip number 5200, so freebsd > has no support for that card either. I'm now using a Linksys USB > wireless stick that works. But it's inconvienient because I forget to > attach it and then I need to restart to get it to work. Have you tried (and failed) to build an NDIS driver for the wireless card using ndisgen? Thanks, -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Inspiron 15 (aka 1545)
This question has sort of been asked before, but I never saw a clear answer, so here it is, in the hope that someone can save me some time: I need a cheap, simple, reasonably light laptop, but not a tiny display, and I'm looking at the Best Buy pre-configured Inspiron 15 (i.e. Inspiron 1545). Anyone have direct experience with FreeBSD amd64 on one of these? Is there anything that isn't going to work? The video is "Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD". If it works well enough to watch DVDs and the occasional downloaded video, I'll be happy. The wireless card is a Dell 1397 802.11b/g. Will I be able to build an NDIS driver (presumably on 7.2-RELEASE amd64)? Is the ExpressCard 34 slot supported? Best Buy's description is at http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9149414&type=product&id=1218036213682 Thanks, -- Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter
Hi, On 6 May 2009, at 16:20, Mister Olli wrote: is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems via kernel command line parameters? [etc] When running diskless, the loader sets kernel variables like: boot.netif.gateway="192.168.198.1" boot.netif.hwaddr="00:15:17:47:14:fc" boot.netif.ip="192.168.198.8" boot.netif.netmask="255.255.255.0" to values obtained from BOOTP or DHCP, and the right things happen. I guess you could just set these in loader.conf or at the loader prompt. -- Bob Bishop r...@gid.co.uk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: where do I find libthr
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:36 PM, ill...@gmail.com wrote: > 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga : > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:30 AM, ill...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> > (please include the list in your email) This is Andy replying for my father. Sorry about that. > > To rebuild your locate database, just run > /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate > > It makes finding files much easier. After rebuilding the locate database I get the following: [r...@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# locate libthr /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db.so.1 /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db-1.0.so /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db.so.1 /usr/Programs/Wine0.9.61/autolibs/libthr.so.2 /usr/Programs/e-Sword0.9.56/autolibs/libthr.so.2 /usr/lib/libthr.a /usr/lib/libthr.so /usr/lib/libthr.so.2 /usr/lib/libthr_p.a /usr/lib/libthread_db.a /usr/lib/libthread_db.so /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.2 /usr/lib/libthread_db_p.a /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1 /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1 /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/files/patch-src_ptlib_unix_tlibthrd.cxx /usr/share/man/cat3/libthr.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/libthr.3.gz However, after running ldconfig -r | grep libthr I get: [r...@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# ldconfig -r | grep libthr 623:-lthr.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1 624:-lthread_db.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1 With so many hits on libthr from locate, why is ldconfig only finding these two instances in /usr/local/lib/compat? Aren't these for linux compatibility? > If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to > upgrade to 7.x > I hope it doesn't come to that. Andy (for Bob) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
where do I find libthr
I am using pcbsd 6.3 When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared object "libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2") Can anyone help me? Bob Falanga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: MailScanner & sendmail
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 06:27:19AM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: > At 03:15 PM 4/15/2009, Bob Willcox wrote: > >I asked this question in freebsd-ports (in a different way as I thought > >maybe I could clarify the situation some by rewording it) the other day > >and didn't receive any reply so I thought I try here this time. > > > >I have a 7.2-prelease system that I am trying to get sendmail and > >MailScanner running on and for some reason sendmail isn't listening on > >*.smtp, though it is listening on localhost.smtp. > > > >If I remove MailScanner from the mix and run sendmail in the > >conventional way (with sendmail_enable="YES" specified in /etc/rc.conf) > >then things work as expected (except no MailScanner, of course). > > > >I currently have a running 6.4-stable system that this new 7.2 system > >is scheduled to replace that is using the same MailScanner and sendmail > >configuration files and it is working ok (and has been for a long time). > > > >I suspect that I'm simply missing some configuration option here that > >I've overlooked or that may have changed between 6.4 and 7.2, but don't > >really know where to look. > > > >Any help or tips on things to do/check would be greatly appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Bob > > > >-- > >Bob Willcox The trouble with doing something right the first > >b...@immure.com time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it > >was. > >Austin, TX -- unknown > > Bob, > > > I have sendmail with mailscanner running on 7.1 release with no > problems. Do you have: > mta_type="sendmail" > mailscanner_enable="YES" > in your /etc/rc.conf? > > I also have: > spamd_enable="YES" > in my /etc/rc.conf > > -Derek Thanks Derek. Your reply gave the clues that I needed to make further progress on this problem. I now have sendmail listening on *.smtp. I had to also add the lines: mta_enable="YES" mta_flags="-bd" to my rc.conf file so that the /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mta script would run and have the right flags for sendmail. Without the -bd flag sendmail would print out a message about needing recipients and then just hang there at startup. I still don't understand what may have changed between 6.x and 7.x. (I have none of the mta_* variables specified in my 6.4 system's rc.conf.) Thanks again, Bob > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- Bob Willcox The trouble with doing something right the first b...@immure.com time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. Austin, TX -- unknown ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
MailScanner & sendmail
I asked this question in freebsd-ports (in a different way as I thought maybe I could clarify the situation some by rewording it) the other day and didn't receive any reply so I thought I try here this time. I have a 7.2-prelease system that I am trying to get sendmail and MailScanner running on and for some reason sendmail isn't listening on *.smtp, though it is listening on localhost.smtp. If I remove MailScanner from the mix and run sendmail in the conventional way (with sendmail_enable="YES" specified in /etc/rc.conf) then things work as expected (except no MailScanner, of course). I currently have a running 6.4-stable system that this new 7.2 system is scheduled to replace that is using the same MailScanner and sendmail configuration files and it is working ok (and has been for a long time). I suspect that I'm simply missing some configuration option here that I've overlooked or that may have changed between 6.4 and 7.2, but don't really know where to look. Any help or tips on things to do/check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Willcox The trouble with doing something right the first b...@immure.com time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. Austin, TX -- unknown ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
CUPS
I have installed cups on freebsd. The printer configures OK. When I try a test print in localhost:631 I get an error message: /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failedI need help with this one. Thank you, Bob Falanga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: new package system proposal
On 4/8/09, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 23:35:03 Bob Johnson wrote: >> On 4/4/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> > Hi all >> >> [...] >> >> > My suggestion is to start with a ports tree that is fixed in time. Make >> > that ports tree available as part of this package system and compile a >> > typical desktop set of ports, particularly choosing ones which are large >> > or have many dependencies. When it is all complete release it and start >> > again. Surely quite a wide selection of desktops, wm's and apps could be >> > compiled in a couple of weeks? >> >> How is it an improvement over the existing tools? I must be missing >> something, because it sounds to me like you are merely asking that >> there be more ports made available as packages than are now offered. > > I think what you're missing is the suggestion to bundle a set of pre-built > packages with a snapshot of the ports tree used to build them. Currently > it's > difficult to mix and match packages and ports because the versions of > dependencies are likely to differ between the package and the local version > of the ports tree. If you know you have the same ports tree your packages > were built from, you can much more easily combine pre-built packages and > local builds from source. OK, I see now. > > This has clear advantages. At the moment, unless you're very lucky with your > timing, you tend to find that as soon as you want to build one port from > source (perhaps to fiddle with the configuration) you have to stop using > prebuilt packages altogether. > I've not really had a lot of trouble with that, although it sometimes causes problems. OK, with something big like KDE it causes problems. > The drawback I can see is the disk space required to keep several > generations > of packages online - if the package-port bundle is rebuilt every three > weeks, > let's say, and you want to keep 6 months' worth of packages online, you need > to keep 9 complete versions available. > I think a bigger drawback is the security issue. As soon as any package in the collection has a significant announced security flaw, you are faced with the choice of withdrawing the entire collection, withdrawing only that package, or leaving the flawed package out there for people to use because it is more convenient for them. At the very least, it creates a management headache for whomever has to make the decisions. > Chris's suggestion is certainly more than just a request for more packages, > though. > It seems to me that a great deal of what his suggestion would accomplish would be accomplished by building a very extensive set of packages once a week or so, so that it is easy to do binary updates of anything that needs updating. For many, that should solve the bulk of the problem. And because most ports don't change weekly, the week-to-week changes shouldn't be unmanageably large. That could also be a starting point for implementing his full suggestion. Keeping around week-to-week deltas rather than an entire collection would reduce the storage requirement substantially. PC-BSD seems to already keep up-to-date binary packages of their applications. Do they accomplish that by only offering a small subset of the full ports collection? -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: new package system proposal
On 4/4/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi all > [...] > > My suggestion is to start with a ports tree that is fixed in time. Make > that ports tree available as part of this package system and compile a > typical desktop set of ports, particularly choosing ones which are large > or have many dependencies. When it is all complete release it and start > again. Surely quite a wide selection of desktops, wm's and apps could be > compiled in a couple of weeks? A lot of ports are already available as packages. Do you simply want more ports available as packages, or a more fundamental change? > > Modify pkg_add so that it can be told to use this 'snapshot' including > downloading the fixed ports tree that was used. What is the benefit of this? > > Some benefits to this system are > - much easier for lower power or laptop users to keep their desktop > machine up to date A large subset of ports are already available as packages. Would making more of them available solve the problem you perceive? Who would decide what the appropriate default configuration should be for each port? > - problems with particular ports can be centrally fixed by knowledgeable > people, possibly reducing time on lists. Huh? Aren't they already? > - reduced energy use for everyone. I think the difference in energy use would be so small as to be pointless. If I have a system that consumes 75 kilowatt hours per month, and I spend an extra 0.05 kilowatt hour per month updating ports, is the difference (less than 1/10 of 1 percent) really meaningful? I can't even measure my power usage accurately enough to detect the difference. Convince me to use three liters less hot water per month, and you will save more energy. > - the ports system is still available for those who do want to change > the config options > - ports which are not included in the snapshot are still available - > since this system has already provided the larger ports as packages, the > remaining ones would be less onerous to install That's already done. > - ports that are installed with make install would maintain > compatibility with the other installed packages. In what way are they now not compatible? > - don't need to mess with portupgrade etc. What's the significant difference between messing with pkg_add and messing with portupgrade? A large subset of ports are already available as packages, so it isn't clear to me how this proposal is significantly improved over using "portupgrade -PR _portname_" when a port needs updating. Or "portupgrade -PRa" when you feel the urge to bring everything up to date. Installing and using portaudit is another useful step in the process. It will send you email to tell you WHEN you should use portupgrade. Of course, it uses energy to do so. > - it could (I think) be fitted fairly well into the existing package > building process. > - it generally increases the useability of FreeBSD as a desktop system. > [...] How is it an improvement over the existing tools? I must be missing something, because it sounds to me like you are merely asking that there be more ports made available as packages than are now offered. To me, the best way to improve FreeBSD as a desktop system would be to get Flash 9, 10, etc. working properly (this seems to have recently been accomplished for Flash 9), and to figure out how to get the Gnome-related stuff to update smoothly without the constant need for manual interference (I get tired of running gnomeloganalyzer). But that's a discussion for a different thread. -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: GELI full disk, booting from thumb drive - can't get to /usr?
Whoops - two mistakes in my original email: First, the following fstab line is a typo (in my original email, not in my actual fstab): /dev/ad11.elif /disk2 ufs rw 2 0 It actually ends in a "2", not a "0". Second, when I typed the following: "Here is my fstab, which is the same in /boot/etc of my thumb drive and /boot/etc of the thing on the hard drive that should get mounted as root" The copies of fstab are actually in "/etc", not "/boot/etc". This is true for both the thumb drive and the hard drive. > I've been trying to set up a system (7.0 Release) with full-disk > encryption, using GELI, and booting from a thumb drive. When booting, it > gets as far as asking me for the passphrases of the various encrypted > disks; when I give them, GELI indicates that it successfully attached to > each, but after I've entered the last of them, the system puts out a bunch > of messages (most of which quickly scroll off my screen) looking like it's > trying to continue booting, but having problems. > > Those that are left when it finally stops scrolling seem to indicate that > it can't get to /usr. Here is what remains on my screen when it stops > scrolling: > > eval: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found > /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run /usr/sbin/cron > Local package initialization: > dirname: not found > Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. > logger: not found > > After that is a blank line, then a line with the date and time, and then a > bunch of lines like the following: > > Mar 14 22:39:06 init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port > /dev/ttyv4: No such file or directory > > The only difference between the "getty" lines is the ttyv* they show. > > Thereafter, once every thirty seconds, another eight copies of the "getty" > line show. This happens indefinitely thereafter (I let it go for an hour > or so). > > If I start up Fixit from a LiveFS CD, geli attach and mount what should be > /usr as something like "/myusr", I can see that all of the things I expect > to be there really are there (including, for example, libexec/getty). > > Does anyone have any idea why this would be happening, or any idea on how > to troubleshoot it? The fact that I can't get to getty makes it... > difficult. > > Here is my fstab, which is the same in /boot/etc of my thumb drive and > /boot/etc of the thing on the hard drive that should get mounted as root > (again, I can confirm this by mounting it as /myslash via a LiveFS CD): > > /dev/ad10.elia / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ad10.elib noneswapsw 0 0 > /dev/ad10.elid /varufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad10.elie /tmpufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad10.elif /usrufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad11.elib noneswapsw 0 0 > /dev/ad11.elif /disk2 ufs rw 2 0 > /dev/ad13.elib noneswapsw 0 0 > /dev/ad13.elif /disk3 ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
GELI full disk, booting from thumb drive - can't get to /usr?
I've been trying to set up a system (7.0 Release) with full-disk encryption, using GELI, and booting from a thumb drive. When booting, it gets as far as asking me for the passphrases of the various encrypted disks; when I give them, GELI indicates that it successfully attached to each, but after I've entered the last of them, the system puts out a bunch of messages (most of which quickly scroll off my screen) looking like it's trying to continue booting, but having problems. Those that are left when it finally stops scrolling seem to indicate that it can't get to /usr. Here is what remains on my screen when it stops scrolling: eval: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run /usr/sbin/cron Local package initialization: dirname: not found Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. logger: not found After that is a blank line, then a line with the date and time, and then a bunch of lines like the following: Mar 14 22:39:06 init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv4: No such file or directory The only difference between the "getty" lines is the ttyv* they show. Thereafter, once every thirty seconds, another eight copies of the "getty" line show. This happens indefinitely thereafter (I let it go for an hour or so). If I start up Fixit from a LiveFS CD, geli attach and mount what should be /usr as something like "/myusr", I can see that all of the things I expect to be there really are there (including, for example, libexec/getty). Does anyone have any idea why this would be happening, or any idea on how to troubleshoot it? The fact that I can't get to getty makes it... difficult. Here is my fstab, which is the same in /boot/etc of my thumb drive and /boot/etc of the thing on the hard drive that should get mounted as root (again, I can confirm this by mounting it as /myslash via a LiveFS CD): /dev/ad10.elia / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad10.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad10.elid /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad10.elie /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad10.elif /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad11.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad11.elif /disk2 ufs rw 2 0 /dev/ad13.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad13.elif /disk3 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Thanks in advance for any help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Anonymizer tool like Tor?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 03:04:05PM +, RW wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:38:13 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > set up tor and use it as socks proxy with your browser and python > > script. > > > > You don't need privoxy for that. > > but isn't the point of of using privoxy to strip identifying > information from http requests that would otherwise undermine tor. It's been a while since I played with tor, but I recall that the documentation said that you have to combine tor and privoxy (or the equivalent) in order to surf anonymously. On the other hand, Giles is using his own script run from the command line, rather than a web browser, so I assume that he won't write the script to send info that he wants to hide. It would probably be a good idea check the http requests that are sent externally and see what info is being passed with them. Then he can determine for himself if he needs anything more than tor. Just my uninformed opinion. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 51
error: No, it's a script - perl, to be exact - and does not count for the purposes of ldd. Compare "more /usr/local/ bin/fastest_cvsup" and "more /usr/bin/csup". Robert Huff -- Message: 9 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:29:16 -0600 From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Registry corrupt? To: cpghost Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20090124072916.00eda...@sage-american.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote: >At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote: >>On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone >wrote: >>> >>> > During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange happened. >>> > Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given the >>> > precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but not all >>> > programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup) >>> > withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine. >> BTW: as more details of the problem, I had found a tiny bug in "mkdep" which initially caused the upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 to fail during buildworld. Once fixed, it "appeared" to upgrade fine (build/install/mergemaster), including a new kernel build/install, but on reboot it still shows 6.3...!!! I have rmoved /usr/obj and even /usr/src and tried over several times, but same result. Some parts of the system is running okay, but not others. Have wasted too much time on this machine and today will move to a new machine and start over. This server is one of our DNS servers, so we're covered with others that take over during shutdown of this problem server. The DNS (or named) is one of the parts not running correctly and the most vital. Just a very strange issue and wondered if anyone else had similar results ever -- it may just be the machine, but didn't act like it. Thanks again, Jack (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american -- Message: 10 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:42:24 -0500 From: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: Start-up of freeBSD need help with one question. To: Bob Falanga Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <44iqo4vn0f@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bob Falanga writes: > When I try to configure a printer, CUPS requires a user id, my own or root > But it will not accept either. > Interestingly, at boot up time I saw CUPS started three times but cannot > find where all the requests for start is. > I added a line in rd.conf to start CUPS but that is the only place. I'd try to solve the second problem before the first (for me, the root password works fine; although normally, I don't *have* a valid password on the root account). The correct way to start cups from rc.conf is: cupsd_enable="YES" Is that how you do it? That is how I configured rc.conf. Why should it start 3 times in the startup? Bob Falanga -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ -- Message: 11 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:49:43 -0500 From: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 problem/question. To: jimmie...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-po...@freebsd.org Message-ID: <44eiysvmo8@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jimmie James writes: > While it looks like it install/runs fine (i.e, linux-flash9 works, > skype works) the following error is show > (process:47722): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown > user id (0) > > Following this advice, all I could find, > http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=freebsd-emulation&a=2005-11&t=1506833 > The fix is, to tell /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to look at NIS too. > Is UID 0 in your /etc/passwd? Can you try changeing > /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to something like this: > > passwd: files nisplus nis > shadow: files nisplus nis > group: files nisplus nis > > Uid 0 is in my /etc/passwd, there's no /compat/linux/etc/passwd., and > changing /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to read the same doesn't fix > the error message. > > Advice, suggestions? Those setting for nsswitch.conf don't look right to me. There should have been a message printed out when you installed one of the linux_base ports, telling you how to configure it. I think the fc4 version is the default these days; if that is what you are using, the message is in the file /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4/pkg-message -- Lowell Gilber
Start-up of freeBSD need help with one question.
When I try to configure a printer, CUPS requires a user id, my own or root. But it will not accept either. Interestingly, at boot up time I saw CUPS started three times but cannot find where all the requests for start is. I added a line in rd.conf to start CUPS but that is the only place. Bob Falanga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
HELP running cups won't accept password
During start cupsd starts 3 times. when configuring a printer, cups will not accept root and it's password for userid and password. Thank you, Bob Falanga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Printing - standard? CUPS? ...??
I prefer print/apsfilter from ports. To get color postscript printing and duplex printing you may need to change the default configuration, which will probably end up somewhere under /usr/local/etc/apsfilter - Bob On 1/12/09, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > For a system set up from scratch (7.1) I'm about to set up printing. > > Printer: Minolta C351 (basically a networked PS-Printer also capable > of color) > > My requirements: Print from mutt (mail), print text files, print > PS-files with the ability to print duplex and 2-up both in color and > b/w. > > Should I go for the standard vanilla FreeBSD lpr that comes with the > system or use anything else? If "anything else" - what (CUPS,...?) > > Please note that I want to print both from gnome (X-win) as well as > via the commadline. > > Thanks in advance for any clue, > -ewald > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: >> On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >> >> On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they >> can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way >> to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the desktop, >> which is not a great interface model to begin with. > > I guess that depends on your definition of "ease of use". In my little > world, "ease of use" involves the ease, efficiency, and speed of task > completion via an interface with which I'm familiar. It seems from what > you said that in your little world "ease of use" means "familiarity", > since that's really the major win for MS Windows interfaces, to the > majority of its users. Here are two simple tests for ease of use. 1. View a tree of files and directories, some local some remote mounts. Highlight a random group of those objects. Move the entire group in one motion by dragging and dropping the collection to a new location in the tree. 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your home directory. Open any application and access files in that directory as easily as when they are on the local drive. I have not been able to do either of these on Ubuntu 7.10 or XFCE/Slackware 12. In the first case, I need to cut and paste the individual files one at a time. I can't even move a directory. In the second, I have been unable to get Amarok, vlc, xine or any other multimedia application I have tried, to recognize the SMB mounted directory. It is invisible to them. At the application level there should be absolutely no difference between a local drive and a mounted remote drive, no matter what protocol was used to mount it. The application should not need to implement smb:// itself. I am not even going to talk about how difficult it is to find and modify basic configuration files, particularly after the LSB crowd really screwed everything up. Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to redefine ease of use. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:53:03PM +, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Your assertion that "linux is both low end unix and low end windows >> replacement" is factually wrong: As a high end unix I think it's >> earned it's stripes, currently dominating the top 500 supercomputer >> systems in the world, some no other unix has managed to accomplish >> this time round. Notably, when compared to freebsd it offers support >> for virtualisation where bsd is nowhere close to doing, just one >> example of high end unix feature it provides. As a gui desktop, >> I'm certain kde is a superior interface to windows in many ways. > While I agree that, without some kind of supporting argument, the > statement that Linux systems are "low end" Unix replacements are kind of > spurious sounding, I don't think that market share is really an effective > metric for determination of the quality of a replacement for a given > class of OS. I believe that he forgot to reference this article from ServerWatch. This shows more than a marginal increase in "market share". It suggests that Sun and others have good reason to be nervous about their future prospects, and need to find new ways to make money. <http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/article.php/3787586> On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the desktop, which is not a great interface model to begin with. Bob McConnell If a messy desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what is an empty desk the sign of? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: [OT] printing question
On Behalf Of Andrew Gould > Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need > occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The > Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux I can't help with the setup issues, as I don't use printers from those systems. However, I do have a recommendation for you. I recently purchased a new HP CP1518ni Color Laser at Sam's Club for less than US$300. It has the Jet Direct network interface, includes Postscript and has worked flawlessly on my home network. HP provides Linux drivers in their hpiplib package. Once it is on the network, setup can be completed from a browser. The four toner cartridges run about US$70 each at Staples, but will print around 2200 pages, which is many times the number of pages for the equivalent cost in ink cartridges. We expect the overall cost to be significantly less than a DeskJet with all of the refills it would eat. I suspect we will have covered the difference in the printer prices before we burn through the 700 pages the original cartridges should provide. Plus the pages don't smear when we handle them with damp fingers. HTH, Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Server Freezing Solid
On Behalf Of Steve Bertrand > Michael Powell wrote: >> Chris Maness wrote: >> [snip] >>>> For this reason, I'd advise that either you leave the PC unplugged for >>>> 10 minutes or so after you've cleaned it to let any residual moisture >>>> dry, or purchase an inline water filter. >> >> Should always put a drier on a compressor. You'll learn the hard way if you >> invest in pneumatic tools; you will kill them if you don't. > > ...but...how can I convince my wife that I need new tools when my > existing ones last forever? Well, if you actually used them once in a while, and even did something she found useful, they wouldn't last so long and she wouldn't complain so loudly (B^). Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Release schedules
On Behalf Of Jonathan McKeown > What on earth is going on with release scheduling? Please keep in mind that the work is being done almost entirely by volunteers donating their "spare time". I don't know about you, but for me, spare time is what is left over after all of my other commitments are taken care of. i.e. family, income, home, etc. The amount of spare time I have fluctuates significantly, sometimes entirely disappearing for days, and is completely unpredictable. Now, some day we may be more fortunate, like Linux where Linus and several others are each being paid by some company or consortium just to maintain various portions of the system. But until that day comes, we have to allow the maintainers some slack in this and other issues. Patience is a virtue, Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Question on creating a video server
-Original Message- On Behalf Of Drew Tomlinson > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> OK, I'm just asking for opinions here on some application >> software. >> >> Like most people we have a nice big 21" TV set that will be >> obsolete in Feb. I have been thinking about replacing this with a >> big screen TV set but the prices on them are still way, way >> way out of my budget (I just can't see spending $500 for >> a TV set, sorry) ... >> Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source >> software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get >> and what software works with it? > > I've read the thread and have to vote for a Linux install and MythTV. > It will do everything you require rather well. I started down the FBSD > path for a PVR and quickly ran into trouble back in 2006. From what I > understand, it hasn't gotten much better due to the driver issues. > Anyway, next I tried building MythTV on Fedora Core as it seemed to be a > popular platform and Jerrod Wilson had a nice guide. Being from the > FBSD world where the ports system worked so well, I quickly found myself > in "rpm hell", especially when Fedora Core didn't support my SCSI card > at the time. I found a nice home with Gentoo Linux as it's "portage" > system is much like ports. This is strange. Time-Warner cable has already told us we don't need to replace any of our TV sets. They will continue to work just fine. Since there are no over the air channels available in our area, we aren't affected by the switch to digital. But then we've always known that Ithaca (NY) is centrally isolated. B-) I would suggest taking a look at Mythdora (Myth TV on Fedora) I have been using it for nearly a year now, with a Hauppauge PVR-350 card. The CPU is an Intel dual core with 2G RAM and a 250 GB SATA drive. If you want automatic scheduling, it does require a paid subscription to one of the online schedule services. I don't use that, so I don't recall the name right now. It automatically records programs while you view them. This is so the pause, rewind and slow motion features will work. Recorded and viewed programs are stored as MP4 files, taking about 2.2 GB per hour. It will automatically delete recorded files after 24 hours, or not, your choice when you schedule the recording. vlc works very well for playback. I have also set up samba on it, so I can read and write files over my home network. Yes, I can set up and monitor it remotely. It installed Apache and a handful of web pages with full access to the scheduler. There is also an option for an IR remote control. The PVR-350 can output to a standard analog TV if you don't like the smaller computer display. There is a separate antenna input for FM radio. I haven't played with that one. My only significant complaint is that it requires MySQL. I would prefer PostgreSQL, since that is less proprietary and one of the systems I deal with at work. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Unable to mount / in read - write mode
On Behalf Of Popof Popof > I can't install FreeBSD 7 from scratch because this is a > laptop and the CD drive is dead. > Also as this is a laptop I don't have any floopy drive. Any chance you have a docking station for that laptop with a NIC that supports PXE? Could you do a network boot and install? Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: garmin forerunner 305
On Behalf Of Bruce Cran > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:24:02 +0100 > Bruce Cran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:51:33 -0300 >> "Joey Mingrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Has anyone had any success collecting data from a Garmin Forerunner >> > 305? >> > >> > When I connect the device I see the kernel messages: >> > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x091e product >> > 0x0003 bus uhub1 >> > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm kernel: ugen0: > > class 255/255, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2> on uhub1 >> > >> > The documentation for the port astro/GPSMan seems to indicate it >> > supports this model, but I haven't had any luck. >> > >> > % uname -a >> > FreeBSD xxx.xxx 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 #3: Thu Jun 12 >> > 18:47:50 ADT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386 >> >> Unfortunately Garmin use their own protocol for communicating between >> the GPS and the PC. Under Linux it's supported by the garmin_gps >> driver but there's no equivalent for FreeBSD yet. >> > > Sorry, it turns out that's wrong: the gpsbabel developers recommend not > using garmin_gps because apparently it often doesn't work. Instead > they recommend using gpsbabel's 'garmin' input/output format. It > interfaces to the device using libusb - which, fortunately for us runs > on FreeBSD! I've just successfully read back GPS data into a GPX file > using gpsbabel on FreeBSD 8-CURRENT and the 'usb2' usb stack. > > I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping > version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to make a > change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. The best way to help fix these problems are: A) Submit a patch for the changes you made. B) Contact the maintainers and provide them with all of the details, what you found, what didn't work, what you modified and the final results. If you have traces or data captures, they may want to see them. They can't fix problems they don't understand. If they don't have access to that hardware, or something similar, they might even ask you to do some experiments for them to extend their knowledge. All of that will help them improve the quality of future releases. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4)
On Behalf Of Jonathan McKeown On Monday 03 November 2008 08:38:07 joeb wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eitan Adler >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:14 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG >> Subject: Re: XFCE4 >> >> Thank you for your random guess, but research of the ports system seem to >> indicate a whole suite of ports are needed to build a complete working >> environment. >> Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports >> they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. > > I don't know whether it's you or your email client, but your quoting is > hideously broken. Please fix it. It's his email client. Microsoft Lookout will no longer do standard quoting and forces top posting of replies. I am also required to use it by our IT department policies and have to manually reformat each message I reply to. There used to be an option that could be set to get angle bracket quoting, but that disappeared in the update from MS-Office 2000 to 2003. The top line, "-Original Message-", is the clue that he is using the Microsoft client. That is its standard separator for all replies. Yes, it is a major pain. I really do prefer Thunderbird. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
On Behalf Of Bruce Cran > And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the > user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of > people have moved over to using it. Yes, it appears to be very nice. The programmer in the next cube bought his own laptop just so he can use it, with MS-Windows running in a VM. But it can only be run on overpriced hardware available from a single supplier. Until there are multiple sources, I don't consider it worth evaluating. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC
On 10/27/08, Simon Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Raising PMAP_SHPGPERPROC works most of the time. You can also re-tune [...] > By the way, does anyone know whether there is any way to tune > PMAP_SHPGPERPROC using sysctl, or does such button/knob not exist? It is tunable with a sysctl in AMD64 kernels, but apparently not in i386. The logged error message in AMD64 mentions the sysctl, at least in 7.0-R. -- Bob Johnson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: DHCP and MAC addresses
On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington > > One response I got off list was that I could use "deny > unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... > is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside > it? I have used dnsmasq on Slackware Linux. It is a combined DNS/DHCP server that works well on small private networks. I don't know if it runs on BSD. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: DHCP server
On Behalf Of Svein Halvor Halvorsen >Daniel Bye wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:43:32AM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >>> I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the client, but >>> since I seem to get troubles with two different clients, I'm thinking it >>> might be the server: >>> > > The dhcp server has netmask /23, and are also handing out this netmask > to clients. > > I have lots of clients running FreeBSD, Windows and OS X not > complaining. I do however, have one OS X client that's been constantly > complaining, and recently also an Archlinux machine. It used to work on > the Linux client up until recently. > > It might be the client, in which case I should probably ask some > Lunux-folks, but since one of the apples also have a problem, I thought > I might be the server. > > Can I diagnose this any further? Set up Wireshark to capture the UDP packets. Compare a successful assignment with the unsuccessful variations. See which side stops responding in each conversation and troubleshoot that end. There may be some clues in the event log on MS-Windows or the syslog files on OS-X. Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: man -t odd page size
From: Jon Radel >Bob McConnell wrote: >> On Behalf Of Al Plant >>> Valentin Bud wrote: >>>> hello, >>>> what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. >>>> i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the >> SI >>>> (ess eye) >>>> unit system. >>>> so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. >>>> >> >>> The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since >>> the 1860's. >>> >>> There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. >> >> However, there is one problem. When I go into Staples, Office Depot or >> Sam's, they only have letter sized paper. I have yet to see a single box >> of A4 or any other ISO size. Sure, my printers can handle A4, but where >> can I buy a couple reams of it? >> >> Bob McConnell >> Ithaca, NY > > Locally, probably nowhere. But try > > www.staples.com > > where there's currently one type of paper available by the ream or case. > Of course, it costs more and then you'll need to get A4 binders, > slightly longer file folders, a new file cabinet, > > It's not easy switching. Well, in this case I don't plan to switch the whole house over. But I do have a few documents and schematics that I would like to print on the correct size paper instead of having to bypass the size check at the printer. It does look like online ordering is the only way for now. Thanks, Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: man -t odd page size
On Behalf Of Al Plant >Valentin Bud wrote: >> hello, >> what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. >> i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI >> (ess eye) >> unit system. >> so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. >> > The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since > the 1860's. > > There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. However, there is one problem. When I go into Staples, Office Depot or Sam's, they only have letter sized paper. I have yet to see a single box of A4 or any other ISO size. Sure, my printers can handle A4, but where can I buy a couple reams of it? Bob McConnell Ithaca, NY ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries...
On 10/10/08, Mark Tinguely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > vm.pmap.pv_entry_count: 583006 >> > vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 200 >> > vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 2243305 >> > >> > The system: >> > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct 1 >> > 07:51:58 UTC 2008 >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> > >> > Can someone briefly explain what this is telling me and how to decide >> > which sysctl to increase? I have found some old postings that predate >> > the sysctls that suggested increasing shpgperproc in the kernel >> > configuration, about 50 at a time until the problem goes away, but I >> > still have no clue what that is accomplishing. > > what (simplified): > the pv_entry helps the virtual memory system track physical pages, so a > physical page can be shared with another process or another virtual address. > > In the i386/amd64 the pv_entry entries are allocated in page size "chunks" > on a per process memory map basis. This helps reduce redundant pointers > and overall saves memory. > > "shpgperproc" can be read as "the number of shared pages per proceess". > pv_entry_max is calculated from shpgperproc (and on the amd64, shpgperproc > can be derived from setting the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max). > > On the amd64, the values can be adjusted by sysctl, but on the i386 > the values must be compiled into the kernel. > > There are some automatic adjustments in the calculation of the number > of pv_entry, but the warnings are given early enough to help aid in the > tweaking of the value. The advice of slowly increasing vm.pmap.shpgperproc > is probably the best solution. I would adjust up slower than 50 (25% > increase seems to be pretty high). > > --Mark Tinguely. > Thanks. I'll see what happens. In amd64/7.0 is there any chance running out of pv_entrys would show up as failures in interprocess communication rather than a panic? The original symptom was that certain web pages (or jailed servers, I'm not sure) were unreachable, as if the firewall were misconfigured, until the system was rebooted. I didn't get to look at the system before it was rebooted, and I find very little in the logs to explain what was going on. Thanks again, - Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Firewall and FreeBSD ports
On Behalf Of RW > I don't normally do this as Watson is usually less impressed when > Holmes reveals his working, but the clues were there. He wrote: > >"install software with ports (i.e, the >/usr/ports collection.)" > > and > >"FTP to grab source files from mirrors" > > If you combine that with crediting the poster with enough common sense > to mention he was using a version before 6.2, then it seemed unlikely > to be a problem with active FTP. > > BTW neither of us actually answered the question. I know I forgot as I > was in a hurry. I'm pretty sure you didn't either, but I don't have the > time to read all of your reply in detail. > > The answer is: enable outgoing tcp connections to port 21 and to all > ports above 1023. Is there a way to set up any firewall so that while there is an active outgoing connection on port 21, allow any incoming connections from the same IP address? Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
