Re: Zend Optimizer support for FreeBSD 7
Wojciech Puchar wrote: another "professional" company that can't take 10 minutes to recompile. funny ;) I already replied and mentioned that it is ironic since the official php.net site is even using FreeBSD :) I also reminded that FreeBSD is NOT a yet another Linux distribution. I think he didnt even know what is FreeBSD. Weird eh? Plus, ionCube already provided FreeBSD 7 64bit binaries... Probably we should all switch to ionCube heh :) On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Evren Yurtesen wrote: I got this sort of e-mail from Zend, besides using compat_6 what can we do as FreeBSD users? Original Message Subject: Zend Optimizer Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:10 +0200 From: Howard Clayman To: Hi Evren, It doesn?t look like we are going to support FreeBSD 7 on the Optimzier. I recommend you start using another Linux distribution if you want to use the Zend Optimizer. Tnanks and regards, Howard Clayman Howard Clayman Sales Manager International Markets how...@zend.com t. +972.3.753.9525 / Skype: howardzend -Original Message- From: Zend Sales [mailto:sa...@zend.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:26 AM To: Howard Clayman Subject: Sales Contact Form Input received: Email: yurte...@ispro.net FirstName: Evren LastName: Yurtesen Company: ispronet internet services--TR Country: TR State: XX Title: Phone: 358.405073940 Street: 18 Sokak No:12 City: Izmir Comments: Hello, Can you please let us know when will you make Zend Optimizer for FreeBSD 7.x available for download? Thanks, Evren Username: ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Zend Optimizer support for FreeBSD 7
I got this sort of e-mail from Zend, besides using compat_6 what can we do as FreeBSD users? Original Message Subject:Zend Optimizer Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:10 +0200 From: Howard Clayman To: Hi Evren, It doesn’t look like we are going to support FreeBSD 7 on the Optimzier. I recommend you start using another Linux distribution if you want to use the Zend Optimizer. Tnanks and regards, Howard Clayman Howard Clayman Sales Manager International Markets how...@zend.com t. +972.3.753.9525 / Skype: howardzend -Original Message- From: Zend Sales [mailto:sa...@zend.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:26 AM To: Howard Clayman Subject: Sales Contact Form Input received: Email: yurte...@ispro.net FirstName: Evren LastName: Yurtesen Company: ispronet internet services--TR Country: TR State: XX Title: Phone: 358.405073940 Street: 18 Sokak No:12 City: Izmir Comments: Hello, Can you please let us know when will you make Zend Optimizer for FreeBSD 7.x available for download? Thanks, Evren Username: ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: continuous backup solution for freebsd?
Mel wrote: I think once you and R1soft step out of the "I need a block level device" paradigm, you will see that modifying ggate with a "copy and fall through" mode, as well as a mechanism to block writes to the local provider, when the remote provider wants to write is the best solution all around and your best bet to get support for it. Right now, ggate does "intercept and redirect", but the concept of copy and fall through is not that far away. Bringing the R1soft devs in contact with the FreeBSD geom list and having them browse the sys/geom/ggate sources to see how trivial it is to hook into filesystem operations would be the course of action I'd recommend. Would it be too much to ask if you can send this information to R1Soft and refer to the post I linked? I just dont think that I can be an efficient gateway of information here :) Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: continuous backup solution for freebsd?
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: What I'm saying is that Linux has the upper hand here. More eyes, more people, more developers, larger community, larger vendor support, and much **much** faster turn-around time on fixes/bugs. We can sit here and argue about those facts all we want (it's the equivalent of doing burn-outs in an AMC Pacer in a parking lot -- wasted time, zero gain), but nothing changes the facts. Sorry, I had to remove the whole bunch of text that you wrote :) but I get the point. I think it is a funny historical fact that BSD was commercially licensed way too long to allow Linux to be developed at first place. If BSD was not commercial at that times, Linus Torvalds probably wouldnt have started writing the Linux kernel. Thus we wouldnt be having this sort of conversation now and it might as well be that Microsoft wouldnt have become so huge. If we look at this from that point of view then eventually all BSD and Linux etc. are bound to disappear in time and Microsoft will stand all alone. But things can change one step at a time. I prefer(or try) to look at this positively. I thought it wouldnt hurt to ask for help if somebody could contact r1soft and perhaps ask a pile of money to develop a driver. It would have been a win-win situation eh? Right. We're definitely talking about snapshots, at least in concept. The fact that you're able to restore data within *minutes* is pretty impressive. I'm curious what sort of disk requirements are needed though (I guess it depends on how often changes happen on the filesystem). Well it is not so fine grained (5 to 10 minutes intervals as mentioned). http://www.r1soft.com/CDP.html (there is more information in the link above, with links to outside sources on the concept such as wikipedia articles etc.) I know some large hosters who use this technology with Linux servers. As a matter of fact the only reason they went with Linux instead of FreeBSD is because they cant get CDP with FreeBSD. I can ask how much space it is using and return back to you. But if you think about it for a second, a traditional backup program would copy the whole file even if there was 1 byte changed in it. Lets say 10mbyte file and 1 byte is changed. R1soft copies only 1 byte. Sure enough the tables can turn around if the filesystem was modified really a lot. But it looks like this type of solution is mostly effective (at least I didnt see anywhere that anybody is complaining that it is using too much disk space yet). The best is, all it would take for FreeBSD users to be able to utilize this technology is a driver to interface with r1soft agent and buy a license. Now I am not expecting anybody to write this for free or nobody is obligated to help. I just dont know anybody who can help so I thought I would drop in a line here so... I for one have never correlated snapshots and backup restorations (bare-metal recovery). I consider them completely separate things, and handled *very* differently. I have a feeling that no one's done this on FreeBSD because the amount of effort required is quite large. Someone did mention HAMMER on DragonflyBSD, but I have no knowledge of it or what it provides -- that said, Matt (Dillon)'s stuff is usually very, very good. I also dont know much about HAMMER either. But it doesnt look like it will make mainstream usage anytime soon on FreeBSD if it ever does. Actually I found a nice document here: http://www.dragonflybsd.org/hammer/hammer.pdf http://www.dragonflybsd.org/hammer/index.shtml It depends on how the filesystem is done. For example, with UFS2+SU snapshots, snapshot generation can take literally hours: completely unreasonable. While with ZFS, snapshot generation usually takes 2-3 seconds -- even on massive changes (e.g. take a snapshot, then rm a 600MB ISO image, then compare present vs. snapshot -- the diff is something like 40KBytes). Yes, but r1soft backup can restore a single file at a consistent state without restoring the whole filesystem from a graphical user interface and can restore mysql databases at a table level. While I agree that there might be different solutions that I dont know about, it just takes a driver to get this functionality on current FreeBSD systems without everybody to change to ZFS or HAMMER. One has to think, would people change their filesystems or install a driver? :) I would rather pay license fee to a backup program and use the driver. The price of the software is very well justified if I can return back to 5min before in my backups. The data I might loose is much more expensive. I'm sorry for sounding anti-FreeBSD, but the reality is that people should use whatever solutions work best for them -- if that's using Windows, Solaris, or Linux, great! Remember that open-source is about choice: and choice means supporting the possibility that someone chooses something else. Blind one-sided advocacy is very damaging to the open-source model and conce
Re: continuous backup solution for freebsd?
Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:58:30PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hello, Is there a known continuous backup solution similar to r1soft backup for FreeBSD? I googled a lot but couldnt find anything. I don't think so. The closest thing I know of is rsnapshot (http://www.rsnapshot.org/). My solution is to run rsync in a cron job. In my situation this takes about 5 minutes for approximately 100GB of data. The time it takes will obviously depend on the rate of change in the data. You could also use local snapshots with mksnap_ffs(8), to solve the "oh shit I deleted my files" situation. Thanks I am using BackupPC for such task already. Although it takes more than 5 minutes to traverse millions of files using rsync independent of if they were changed or not (since rsync has to scan all the files to detect what is changed or not even if it only checks modification times, this takes time for so many files). I just was curious about if anybody could contact r1soft and ask for a pile of money to implement a driver for FreeBSD, since I couldnt do it even if I wanted to :) Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: continuous backup solution for freebsd?
First of all, I am not an r1soft advocate, but they seem to be making a software which is popular and affordable and interested in giving FreeBSD support... r1soft is not the issue here, the problem is that there is no way to do near continuous backups on FreeBSD servers. Jeremy Chadwick wrote: That said, I'd like to know exactly how "low-level" R1Soft's software truly is. dump(8), AFAIK, is "block-level" -- and that's a userland program. Does R1Soft's software *truly* require kernel-land? I have more to say on that issue (not against R1Soft, but speaking with regards to the current state of FreeBSD's developer count) if it truly does. I think you might not have understood the concept of near continuous backups. The R1Soft backup monitors the filesystem operations and backs up written blocks. So it has to know what is written and when to be able to back it up. The dump command simply reads/writes the blocks. It cant only read changed blocks. It has to read the whole thing (inefficient). Continuous backups as well as bare-metal-restore seem to be a key feature for many hosters. Regarding continuous backups: the GEOM gate class could be used for this. Meaning, I think it could be used as an alternate to R1Soft's software. The GEOM gate allows mirroring to a remote machine, am I not right? That would be more or less same as same as using RAID. The continuous backup (or near continuous) means that you can restore the filesystem to a point like 15 minutes ago, or 1 hour ago. Besides, I hear geom might have network delay problems and it is much more complicated setup to build two machines in mirror configuration just for backup purposes as well as you cant restore to a point in the past. Regarding bare-metal restoration I'm not aware of how to do that under FreeBSD, Linux, or even Solaris "with ease". In most cases, companies develop their own PXE-booting environments which wipe the disks and reinstall + restore data as they see fit. There is no "standard". OK. Actually there is more than one solution which can do bare-metal-restores for FreeBSD also. However those solutions at best rely on nightly backups of the filesystems. With R1Soft, you can restore the system to only few minutes before the total meltdown. Unrelated to bare metal restore, with normal backups you are not taking backups of files which are created/deleted often. For example this can be customer mails or if a hacker hacks the box and removes his trails. Even sometimes customers upload some file and remove from their computer the same they and then accidentally remove from the server. With R1Soft backup the data would go into the backup server right away and you an restore every single file independent of when it was put or removed. FreeBSD is loosing users because of this issue. Why does the "number of FreeBSD users" matter? Quantity does not necessarily represent quality. Thats a perfectly fine statement. But a quality product would be nothing without users. As well as this problem effects the quality. Consider a system which has sensitive data which shouldnt get lost, with continuous data protecton you can restore such failed system to only few minutes before the failure point. Doing this is currently impossible with FreeBSD. Best we can do is to return to previous snapshot taken (which might be a day old). This is an important design criteria since restoring the lost data might be time consuming and expensive. Thge issue is not even r1soft, they are just the most popular company giving such solution, only if there was at least one backup solution which could provide near continuous data protection... In addition to this, near continuous backups create less load on boxes with a lot of reads but little writes. Standart backups have to scan all the files to detect which files were changed. I'm sorry for sounding anti-FreeBSD, but the reality is that people should use whatever solutions work best for them -- if that's using Windows, Solaris, or Linux, great! Remember that open-source is about choice: and choice means supporting the possibility that someone chooses something else. Blind one-sided advocacy is very damaging to the open-source model and concept. I agree, and please dont shoot the messenger :) I just have a bunch of customers who would use FreeBSD but not using only because of this problem. In addition to that I myself would like to use near continuous backups as well. I was just trying to inform the FreeBSD community here so if somebody can have some time to divert to giving the right advices to r1soft then we all could benefit from it. It doesnt even have to be free even, with a reasonable price they can probably hire somebody to work for building the basics of this feature. So the real question is, is there anybody who is willing and have the experience to help on this issue? Thanks, Evren ___ fre
Re: continuous backup solution for freebsd?
Julien Cigar wrote: Bacula ? http://www.bacula.org I use it at work to backup linux and freebsd boxes and it works like a charm. On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 04:20 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:58:30PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hello, Is there a known continuous backup solution similar to r1soft backup for FreeBSD? I googled a lot but couldnt find anything. R1soft says they need help to develop FreeBSD support in their product. Do you know anybody who can help r1soft on this issue? Please see: http://forum.r1soft.com/showpost.php?p=3414&postcount=9 Would the GEOM gate class handle this? See ggatec(8) and ggated(8). Bacula does not support continuous backups as far as I know. It has to scan all the files to find new/changed files to backup. The r1soft agent monitors file system writes and backs up changed parts immediately. This does allow r1soft backup to restore the system to its latest state (10-15minutes ago state, thus continuous backup is achieved) as it continually updates the backups. Also has much less stress on the systems where the writes are not so much since it doesnt have to check every file at each backup cycle. Also r1soft cdp has support for MySQL where you can easily restore mysql data in table level if required. It is as well supported by a wide variety of web hosting automation systems for example H-Sphere ( http://www.parallels.com/hsphere/ ) etc. through plugins. Please see the info about continuous data protection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Data_Protection Otherwise I am currently using BackupPC (which is pretty good in my opinion and easier to use compared to Bacula) to take nightly backups of the servers. Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: continuous backup solution for freebsd?
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:58:30PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hello, Is there a known continuous backup solution similar to r1soft backup for FreeBSD? I googled a lot but couldnt find anything. R1soft says they need help to develop FreeBSD support in their product. Do you know anybody who can help r1soft on this issue? Please see: http://forum.r1soft.com/showpost.php?p=3414&postcount=9 Would the GEOM gate class handle this? See ggatec(8) and ggated(8). I am not saying it is impossible. They just need somebody to put them to right track I guess. I personally cant do that. It would be nice if somebody who has knowledge in this area contacts r1soft. At the very least r1soft seems to be willing to communicate on this issue. Continuous backups as well as bare-metal-restore seem to be a key feature for many hosters. FreeBSD is loosing users because of this issue. Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
continuous backup solution for freebsd?
Hello, Is there a known continuous backup solution similar to r1soft backup for FreeBSD? I googled a lot but couldnt find anything. R1soft says they need help to develop FreeBSD support in their product. Do you know anybody who can help r1soft on this issue? Please see: http://forum.r1soft.com/showpost.php?p=3414&postcount=9 Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: netcraft uptime
Manolis Kiagias wrote: Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hi, I see that netcraft uptime doesnt function because the kernel timer is set to 1000 by default in freebsd 6.x So perhaps setting kern.hz=100 fixes the problem? What about things getting wrapped in 497 days? How are there some FreeBSD hosts which have 1600+days uptime? how do they manage it? I am just trying to figure out how to do the same in my systems :) Thanks, Evren I set the timer to 100hz now but I still dont get any uptime results from netcraft. Is there something more to do or I am impatient perhaps? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: netcraft uptime
Manolis Kiagias wrote: Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hi, I see that netcraft uptime doesnt function because the kernel timer is set to 1000 by default in freebsd 6.x So perhaps setting kern.hz=100 fixes the problem? What about things getting wrapped in 497 days? How are there some FreeBSD hosts which have 1600+days uptime? how do they manage it? I am just trying to figure out how to do the same in my systems :) Thanks, Evren Yes, I believe the problem is the kernel timer. Older versions of FreeBSD had a 100Hz timer. A Debian server of mine started showing uptime again in Netcraft when I recompiled the kernel with 100Hz timer setting. As for the 497 days problem, I think this is Linux specific. I don't know however if it will exist in FreeBSD 6.X with timer set to 100Hz. Managing to get 1600 days uptime requires very solid hardware, possibly with redundant (maybe hot swap) components and stable power. A UPS is necessary and probably a generator, as during this time there is going to be a blackout that will probably outlast your battery. FreeBSD is actually the easiest (and less costly) part of the setup: It will, simply, run all this time, From what I can see, the 32bit timer part used in TCP rolls over after 497 days. That is why they can not detect usage over 497 days. Netcraft says "Additionally HP-UX, Linux, NetApp NetCache, Solaris and recent releases of FreeBSD cycle back to zero after 497 days," no sweat :) Well, I could do over 500 days with a small ups and a 10 year old machine. There is almost no blackouts around here. When there is, it doesnt last more than 1-3 minutes once in 2-3 years. Anyway, we will see if netcraft will show 0 days after 497 but it would be a shame really :) Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
netcraft uptime
Hi, I see that netcraft uptime doesnt function because the kernel timer is set to 1000 by default in freebsd 6.x So perhaps setting kern.hz=100 fixes the problem? What about things getting wrapped in 497 days? How are there some FreeBSD hosts which have 1600+days uptime? how do they manage it? I am just trying to figure out how to do the same in my systems :) Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
cerc sata raid vs geom mirror
I have a question, both cerc(aac) sata raid and geom are software solutions. Can anybody tell if cerc(aac) has any advantages over geom? and what disadvantages does it have? can I still access the drives with smartmontools etc.? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
usb wireless keyboard not working at boot menu
Hi, I have a usb wireless keyboard/mouse combo which doesnt work at beastie. It works before and after the boot menu perfectly fine. But not in beastie so I am not able to enter to single user/safe mode etc. unless I plug in a ps2 keyboard. Do you know a workaround for this? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: splitting a filesystem
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:55:07PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hi, Is it possible to split an existing filesystem into smaller ones(1to2). Well, sort of. You can back everything up with dump(8) Then delete the partition and make two in its place. Then newfs the two new partitions to create filesystems of them. Then restore(8) the parts of the old one you want on to the two new ones. I wonder if it is worthwhile though. Just make two main directories and divide the stuff and don't worry if they are both in the same partition. I am not worried about the data, I want to split /tmp filesystem so I can mount it as /tmp and /var/tmp seperately. Because I want to enable noexec on these and unreachable from each other, it is necessary. The problem was that I use open_basedir with php and session files are in /var/tmp while open_basedir allows /tmp only and programs(like joomla) get confused and say that they cant write to the session directory. But they actually can because session files are created automatically by php, they are just not able to set directory manually. (which is weird thing of php) Programs like joomla and oscommerce etc. work just fine but for example joomla installer complains and my customers tell me that 'joomla says your server is bad' :p But now I think about it again if I put the open_basedir to /var/tmp which gets preset in programs most used by my customers then I should set session save path to /tmp and same problem would occur. Anyhow :) it was a stupid idea... sorry to bother you all with it :) Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
splitting a filesystem
Hi, Is it possible to split an existing filesystem into smaller ones(1to2). Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
whois weirdness...
Hello, When I do whois from my FreeBSD 6-stable boxes I am receiving funny answers. For example when I do whois microsoft.com I get totally unrelated data. However whois works just as expected from some linux boxes I tried. Can anybody explain why this is happening? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: portupgrade bdb1 vs bdb4
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Evren Yurtesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What is the advantage of using bdb4 instead of bdb1 while installing portupgrade? If you really want to follow it up: the pkg-descr points you to that information. I still dont see what is the advantage of using it with portupgrade? in sleepycat.com there is info about bdb4 but I couldnt find a comparison or anything which might show the differences? --- Version 4.1 of the Berkeley DB library. This version uses an underlying database format incompatible with revision 1 and a different standard API. Utilities are included in the distribution to convert v1.85 databases to v4.1 databases, and a backwards compatible API is provided to maintain compatibility with programs using the v1.85 interface. For details on compatibility with other DB versions, see: http://www.sleepycat.com/download/patchlogs.shtml WWW: http://www.sleepycat.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
portupgrade bdb1 vs bdb4
Hi, What is the advantage of using bdb4 instead of bdb1 while installing portupgrade? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: e-mail server farm question
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Vulpes Velox wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:54:02 -0500 Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 07:17 AM 5/22/2006, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hello, I was wondering how does services like yahoo mail is storing e-mails. Somehow the smtp server should know where to deliver the mail inside the system and webmail should know from which server to read it from. Does anybody have any practical ideas about how it is done? Derek Ragona wrote: > If you are using sendmail, as most FreeBSD users are, you can > check the sendmail.org site for information on mail handling. > There are a number of methods that depend on your setup. > Well, it's pretty obvious that they aren't using a stock SendMail: # telnet mx2.mail.yahoo.com 25 Trying 67.28.113.72... Connected to mx2.mail.yahoo.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mta309.mail.re4.yahoo.com ESMTP YSmtp service ready Short of finding an article written by someone 'in the know', or an answer for someone like that, we can only guess. I'd probably start with guessing a big DB on a large SAN; which pretty much negates the "which server to read from" question (up to a point). Everything else is pretty academic. SMTP, IMAP, POP. Maildir makes it easy to distribute it across multiple machines as well. What do you mean exactly? distributing 1 user's mails into seperate machines? I didnt understand how Maildir helps to this actually. I am not sure anyone was talking about distributing 1 person's mail across separate machines. The discussion seemed to be how to handle large amounts of mail spread out across machines, which maildir helps with as you can have one or more file servers and lots of consumers (imap/pop) and deliverers (mta) accessing those maildirs on your file servers. Combine with a backend database of some sort (we use an ldap db that includes the path for a specific accounts mail) and voilá. Chad Ah sorry, I didnt think it that way for a moment. I thought you meant Maildir stores mails in seperate files compred to mbox format used by sendmail so...anyhow my mistake :) But it is possible to make changes to sendmail so that it will store to different folders also. I think the conclusion is a database, multiple smtp servers querying database to see where to forward received e-mails, multiple pop3/imap servers querying database to see from where to read the e-mails and multiple storage machines. This way it can scale to an unlimited size. So it requires a lot of coding :) Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: e-mail server farm question
Vulpes Velox wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:54:02 -0500 Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 07:17 AM 5/22/2006, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Hello, I was wondering how does services like yahoo mail is storing e-mails. Somehow the smtp server should know where to deliver the mail inside the system and webmail should know from which server to read it from. Does anybody have any practical ideas about how it is done? Derek Ragona wrote: > If you are using sendmail, as most FreeBSD users are, you can > check the sendmail.org site for information on mail handling. > There are a number of methods that depend on your setup. > Well, it's pretty obvious that they aren't using a stock SendMail: # telnet mx2.mail.yahoo.com 25 Trying 67.28.113.72... Connected to mx2.mail.yahoo.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mta309.mail.re4.yahoo.com ESMTP YSmtp service ready Short of finding an article written by someone 'in the know', or an answer for someone like that, we can only guess. I'd probably start with guessing a big DB on a large SAN; which pretty much negates the "which server to read from" question (up to a point). Everything else is pretty academic. SMTP, IMAP, POP. Maildir makes it easy to distribute it across multiple machines as well. What do you mean exactly? distributing 1 user's mails into seperate machines? I didnt understand how Maildir helps to this actually. Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
e-mail server farm question
Hello, I was wondering how does services like yahoo mail is storing e-mails. Somehow the smtp server should know where to deliver the mail inside the system and webmail should know from which server to read it from. Does anybody have any practical ideas about how it is done? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Is there /etc/groups limits?
Hi, Is there a limit on how many groups a user can belong to? For example user1:*:1000:www user2:*:1001:www user3:*:1002:www ... ... ... For example, is there a limit which would stop apache to work because the www user is member of 1 groups? Thanks, Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
beastie menu
I see that beastie menu is gone from what I read of some posts... I have a weird problem, my computer starts rebooting itself when I install a new 'loader' I am able to get it boot with the 'loader' from freesbie cd though. by the way, can this be because of color beastie command I used in my loader.conf ? I will disable it and try again when I can boot! Evren ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
sc_pixel_mode and setting console font size at boot time...
Hi, I have been trying to change the console font size to something smaller and if possible I want to change the console resolution to 800x600 or 1024x768. I am using a laptop and I compiled my kernel with vesa and sc_pixelmode but I am not able to change the text size etc. with vidcontrol even. Any ideas? Thanks, Evren Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 11 19:14:34 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PERPETUAL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: mobile AMD Athlon (tm) 2400+ (1788.94-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383f9ff AMD Features=0xc048 real memory = 527368192 (502 MB) avail memory = 506400768 (482 MB) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) ACPI-0290: *** Error: Return object type is incorrect [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKU._CRS] (Node 0xc1a1ad00), AE_TYPE can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKU - AE_TYPE acpi_ec0: port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 powernow0: on cpu0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 ACPI-0290: *** Error: Return object type is incorrect [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKU._CRS] (Node 0xc1a1ad00), AE_TYPE ACPI link \\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKC has invalid initial irq 5, ignoring pci0: on pcib0 ACPI-0290: *** Error: Return object type is incorrect [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.LNKU._CRS] (Node 0xc1a1ad00), AE_TYPE pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 drm0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xf450-0xf450,0xf600-0xf7ff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci1 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0 ohci0: mem 0xf440-0xf4400fff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xa000-0xa00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 4.0 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcm0: port 0x8800-0x88ff mem 0xf4402000-0xf4402fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 pcm0: rl0: port 0x8c00-0x8cff mem 0xf4406800-0xf44068ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:02:3f:b5:f5:88 fwohci0: port 0x8080-0x80ff mem 0xf4406000-0xf44067ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 00:02:3f:33:27:00:05:22 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:02:3f:00:05:22 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:02:3f:00:05:22 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) cbb0: irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb1: irq 11 at device 11.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 ohci1: mem 0xf4405000-0xf4405fff irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0 usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: _CRT value is absurd, ignored (205.0C) acpi_tz0: _PSV value is absurd, ignored (200.0C) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 0 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/1 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface orm0: at iomem 0xd8000-0xdbfff,0xcf000-0xc,0xc-0xcefff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x180 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x380> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df
Re: nis/yp question about password file
David Wolfskill wrote: can anybody tell what changed in nis/yp that it doesnt work as before anymore? PAM, perhaps? Ah well, I figured the problem out actually... I was too impatient when I sent the email... I just upgraded my master nis server to a completely new machine and the old one was working in a different IP. Somehow the 4.x freebsd version clients were connecting to the new one and the 5.x freebsd version clients were connecting to the old one... The old one had the old passwd file so 5.x versions showed the old data which seemed to be funnily wrong. Now when I disabled NIS server in the old 4.x FreeBSD master server I was using, everything came back to normal. I was so stupid :) Thanks, Evren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: upgrading form 4.2 to 5.x
Remko Lodder wrote: Brent Bailey wrote: Hello, My company has been asked to help with the upgrade of several Freebsd systems that are pretty old. The customer is running a file server samba also running apache running FBSD 4.2, he wants to upgrade using cvsup & the make buildworld procedure to upgrade to 5.x. Im very familier with the make buildworld procedure however there have been significant changes between 4.2 & 5.x so is this something that can be done without many problems ? Aside from reading throught the /usr/src/UPDATING file are there things i should look out for being that the 2 versions are so differrent. I believe the only reason to upgrade to 5.x would be if you need a feature in 5.x versions which doesnt exist in 4.x versions. Otherwise it is best to use 4.x-stable. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
ftpd umask
Hi, I put the following value to inetd.conf, killed inetd and restarted. ftp stream tcp nowait root/usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l -u 007 When I ftped to the host and put files the mode of the files are still 644 whats the deal with this? Evren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
HP Netserver E60, SCSI question...
Hi, I have a netserver with 4.8-stable installed. Whatever I do the freebsd finds my scsi drives as 10mbyte/sn huh... Any suggestions? ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xfc10-0xfc100fff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings aic7895C: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: port 0x1400-0x14ff mem 0xfc101000-0xfc101fff irq 5 at device 5.1 on pci0 ahc1: Host Adapter Bios disabled. Using default SCSI device parameters aic7895C: Ultra Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 11.626MB/s transfers (5.813MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 34732MB (71132960 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 34732C) sync tranfer rate mb/sn :40 initiate wide negotiation: yes enable disconnection : yes send start unit command : yes enable writeback cache : n/c ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
atacontrol raid0 interleave?
What is the suggested interleave numbers? how to calculate the best value? Evren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
NMBCLUSTERS etc. in 5.x versions
How do I set these in 5.x versions of freebsd? the kernel options are long gone as it seems... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: roaring penguin pppoe ?
Well it is not very flexible to use ipfw/dummynet. You must make static entries for each user etc. But if pppoe supports bandwidth limiting then you can enforce it from radius easily. Evren On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:58:57AM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > I need radius plus bandwidth limiting. > > I do not know if roaring penguin support bandwidth limiting but it seems > > that servpoet supports and they seem to use roaring penguin. > > You can do bandwidth limiting with ipfw dummynet. I don't know about radius. > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: roaring penguin pppoe ?
I need a pppoe server which can limit bandwidth on per user bases On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Rod Person wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:05:26 +0200 (WET) > Evren Yurtesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > did anyone try roaring penguin pppoe server on freebsd? any advice? > > > > are you having some problem setting up pppoe? It quite simple to set up and works >great. I've not found a need for roaring penguin. > > > Rod > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: roaring penguin pppoe ?
I need radius plus bandwidth limiting. I do not know if roaring penguin support bandwidth limiting but it seems that servpoet supports and they seem to use roaring penguin. Evren On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:05:26AM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > did anyone try roaring penguin pppoe server on freebsd? any advice? > > It used to be in the ports collection, but was removed because no-one > could make it work very well. What's wrong with FreeBSD's pppoed? > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
roaring penguin pppoe ?
did anyone try roaring penguin pppoe server on freebsd? any advice? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
desknote 928a sis 900 ethernet driver problems?
I have desknote 928a and sis 900 ethernet says "attach returned 6" although it finds the MAC. I tried with 4.6.2, 4.7, 5.0 release boot floppies! Same result! Did anybody have any luck with this? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
ppp dedicated pppoe weird problem
I have set up ppp in dedicated mode but it connects when I boot the machine and when it disconnects for any reason it doesnt try to reconnect again. Is there anything I am missing here? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
prism hostap
Hello, I would like to use FreeBSD wi driver in hostap drive with a root access point. I would like for FreeBSD to forward packets to the root access point but at the same time I want wireless clients to be able to register to the freebsd wi hostap but not able to forward packets to each other unless it is routed through the root access point. Is this possible? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
PPPoE problem
I am getting these when I disconnect in the logs and the client doesnt connect again Dec 24 17:03:02 wireless ppp[51]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Dec 24 17:03:02 wireless ppp[51]: Phase: deflink: write (1): Socket is not connected Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
how to change installworld installation root directory?
Hello, Is it possible to mount a hard drive and make installworld so that the installation will install everything under this directory where the hard drive is mounted? Something like /mnt instead of / for example? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: -O3 optimization?
Well, I made searches from google and people talk that O3 produced quite noticably faster code. But well I am not so hungry for speed. I just wondered if the binary might have something wrong with it or not even though the compiler didnt complain while compiling. What about using -O or not using any optimizations? Is it very rare that -O breaks somethings? I was using -Os and I also didnt notice anything wrong but maybe there can be something I am missing too... Is there big performance improvement between -O and -O2 ? or from not using any optimizations to -O or -O2? Lets say if I am compiling KDE,XFree86. How much would it effect? is there a web page with some statistical data about this? Evren On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, David Schultz wrote: > Thus spake Evren Yurtesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I wonder if a source is compiled with -O3 without any problems, might > > there be any problems in binaries which might create crashes? > > You're welcome to try it out, but it isn't supported. GCC has a > few obscure misfeatures at -O3. Some applications break at -O3, > usually because they violate C's aliasing rules or contain broken > inline assembly. At one point, the kernel's TCP checksum code had > some difficult-to-solve problems with -O3, and I'm not sure > whether that has been fixed. > > Despite all of that, I built world and kernel with -O2 a while ago > and noticed no problems whatsoever. Just note that you've been > warned, and you probably won't see a significant performance > improvement anyway. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
-O3 optimization?
Hi I wonder if a source is compiled with -O3 without any problems, might there be any problems in binaries which might create crashes? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
missing "Tagged Queueing Enabled"
Hello, I have a quantum and a westerndigital hard drive. At boot time the quantum drive says Tagged Queueing Enabled but there is no such inditation at western digital drive. I checked the web site for the western digital and it seems that the drive has Tagged Queueing support. Is this normal or ? any suggestions? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
mount -o async option
Hello, I have a problem =) even though I use -o async option of mount when I issue mount command I see /dev/ad0s1e on /usr/local/squid/cache/disk3 (ufs, local, noatime, soft-updates) why there is no async coming there? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
