Re: gPXE booting FreeBSD?
Hey Rick, I've managed to setup an gPXE boot where a diskless client booted OpenSUSE over AoE from a FreeBSD server. Not exactly what you want, yet the setup is mostly the same for all OS's... My main source of info came from this site: http://etherboot.org/wiki/howtos greets Arno Beekman On 4 dec 2012, at 16:55, Rick Miller wrote: Hi All, Does anyone have any experience booting FreeBSD via gPXE and have pointers to relevant documentation and/or blog posts? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
AoE vblade reporting size 0
Hello, I'm trying to export a disk on FreeBSD 9.0-R4 over AoE (ATA over Ethernet) using vblade from ports. I run this as root: # vblade 1 1 em0 /dev/ada1 and the system returns this: ioctl returned -1 0 bytes pid 2629: e1.1, 0 sectors O_RDWR The drive nicely shows up on OSX and Linux as e1.1 but is has size 0 bytes and thus unusable. Has anyone successfully export a disk using AoE on FreeBSD that can shed some light on what I might be doing wrong? How do i get it to export the disk as 230 GB, the size of the disk? thanks in advance, Arno Beekman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: af_atalk.c error FBSD 9.0Rp4
aaah nevermind... sigh... just for the archive, I'm learning C and had setenv GCC_EXEC_PREFIX c-program setenv C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/local/include which were preventing certain things to compile... and then 'Computer says no' gr arno On 10 aug 2012, at 15:40, FBSD UG wrote: hello! I'm trying to buildworld on my FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p4 server after successfully installing the kernel, but keep running into the same error no matter what I do. I've been googling for days now and must either be looking in the wrong directions or it's not there. The error I get is the following: cc -O2 -pipe -DINET6 -DINET -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wnested-externs -DRESCUE -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -c /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c: In function 'at_status': /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c:94: error: 'struct sockaddr_at' has no member named 'sat_range' /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c: In function 'at_getaddr': /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c:123: error: 'struct sockaddr_at' has no member named 'sat_len' /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c: In function 'at_postproc': /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c:152: error: 'struct sockaddr_at' has no member named 'sat_range' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I do also get this when I cd into /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig and type make. This is my kernelconfig I compiled the kernel with: cpu I686_CPU ident KERNEL9 options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL# Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCL # New Network Filesystem Client options NFSD # New Network Filesystem Server options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 options SCSI_DELAY=1000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options STACK # stack(9) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM
af_atalk.c error FBSD 9.0Rp4
hello! I'm trying to buildworld on my FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p4 server after successfully installing the kernel, but keep running into the same error no matter what I do. I've been googling for days now and must either be looking in the wrong directions or it's not there. The error I get is the following: cc -O2 -pipe -DINET6 -DINET -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wnested-externs -DRESCUE -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -c /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c: In function 'at_status': /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c:94: error: 'struct sockaddr_at' has no member named 'sat_range' /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c: In function 'at_getaddr': /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c:123: error: 'struct sockaddr_at' has no member named 'sat_len' /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c: In function 'at_postproc': /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/af_atalk.c:152: error: 'struct sockaddr_at' has no member named 'sat_range' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I do also get this when I cd into /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig and type make. This is my kernelconfig I compiled the kernel with: cpu I686_CPU ident KERNEL9 options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL# Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCL # New Network Filesystem Client options NFSD # New Network Filesystem Server options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 options SCSI_DELAY=1000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options STACK # stack(9) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128# Prevent printf output being interspersed. options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev options
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
doesn't VLC do that too? On 11 mrt 2012, at 21:28, Gary Kline wrote: guys, i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? gray -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: net/netatalk afpd causes abort on amd64?
Heya, I just struggled with this the last few days and found that the problem lies in zeroconf. I didn't get any error message at all. Adding the flag -nozeroconf to the share the afpd.conf file made it work for me. I use avahi now to make the share available on the network. greets Arno Beekman On 8 aug 2011, at 13:46, Kouichiro Iwao wrote: Hi. After upgraded to current portversion of netatalk, I cannot start netatalk. I do rc.d/netatalk start then afpd fails SIGABRT. On i386 freebsd, netatalk/afpd works fine. Any solutions to use netatalk on amd64? pid 19160 (afpd), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 19175 (afpd), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 19188 (afpd), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) -- kiwao m...@club.kyutech.ac.jp ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On 27 jul 2010, at 11:10, Bulk wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:20:48PM -0600, Chad Perrin typed: You're a self-righteous git, and probably personally offended by the appearance of an attack on Christianity (which is never what was intended, nor even what happened, at least in the case of the specific email to which you replied). Try stepping back, reading more closely, and responding to what was *actually* said. But in my honest opinion, all religion is evil. That's why I like beasty :D lol yeah and FreeBSD means 'Free Beelzebub, Satan, Devil' ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?
A bit of reading shows that ZFS, if it's stable enough, has some really great features that would be nice on such a large pile o' drives. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my ignorance) is if you need to use hardware RAID at all? It seems both UFS2 and ZFS can do software RAID which seems to be quite reasonable with respect to performance and in many ways seems to be more robust since it is a bit more portable (no specialized hardware). I've thought about this one a lot. In my case, the hard drives are in a separate enclosure from the server and the two had to be connected via SAS cables. The 9690SA-8E card was the best choice I could find for accessing an external SAS enclosure with support for 8 drives. I could configure it in JBOD mode and then use software to create a RAID array. In fact, I will likely do this to compare performance of a hardware vs. software RAID5 solution. The ZFS RAID-Z option does not appeal to me, because the read performance does not benefit from additional drives, and I don't think RAID6 is available in software. For those reasons I'm leaning toward a hardware implementation. Hi Maxim, RAID-Z2 is the RAID6 double parity option in ZFS. gr Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AFP Client in FreeBSD
On 10 jun 2009, at 21:09, Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:52:06PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: Chris Maness wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Greg Larkinglar...@freebsd.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Maness wrote: Is there an AFP client for FreeBSD? I have a mac with a gargantuan hard drive, and I would like to back up my FreeBSD server to it, and back up my mac to my FreeBSD server. I have seen where FreeBSD can be an AFP server, but there is little information on the client. Any suggestions? If you want to transfer dumps, netcat (nc) is the fastest way to go. I guess it doesn't come with OS X, since it is available from macports or darwinports. I was able to saturate the 10 Mbit connection between a laptop and a desktop when transferring a dump file. :-) Of course you can also pipe the dump output directly to netcat, but in that case the speed of the dump is the bottleneck. netcat (nc) comes with Leopard (10.5). so no need to get it from macports anymore gr Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: AFP Client in FreeBSD
On 11 jun 2009, at 03:19, patrick wrote: Oh, I don't know about 10.4. Looks easy enough in 10.5: http://www.macresearch.org/nfs-exports-leopard It didn't change in the way it's described on that site from 10.4 to 10.5 the other, more OSX way of doing it using NetInfo changed though. NetInfo was replaced with OpenDirectory from 10.4 to 10.5 gr Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Streaming server / YouTube
On 25 mei 2009, at 19:16, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? somehow i can't understand you do you mean installing FreeBSD for this will use less bandwidth? about your question - simply use FTP or HTTP for this. This will be RIGHT solution, contrary to youtube nonsense that prevents any caching or simply downloading movie by forcing you to use their flash player. fortunately we have /usr/ports/www/youtube_dl :) without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... they even offer their own download options at http://www.kissyoutube.com gr Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: FBSD UG skrev: You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. Mostly semantics, if I name my computer APPLE Then it's legal to install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not have to be a computer named APPLE it could be IBM, HP or any other brand or non brand. did you sign all Swedish laws then? How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On 28 feb 2009, at 17:26, Bernt Hansson wrote: Sean Cavanaugh said the following on 2009-02-28 16:25: - From: Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:32 AM To: FBSD UG free...@rgbaz.eu Cc: freebsd-questions questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook FBSD UG said the following on 2009-02-28 10:50: On 27 feb 2009, at 13:39, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: Em Sex, 2009-02-27 às 14:45 +0300, z...@zaa.pp.ru escreveu: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote: Hi I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons. Hello... I use a free version of the Leopard based on darwin (freebsd6) named hackintosh it is the google, it is free, and just works... You can even buy a standard notebook, and install. I will transform the notebook in an apple leopard 10. Tha's, ehm, quite illegal to say the least... Of course it isn't illegal. You can run any system you like on your own hardware. unless you actually READ the licensing on OSX that says It can only be installed on apple brand hardware It doesn't really matter much what they say in their eula. If i bought a copy then i can do/install whatever I want since there isn't any agreement between apple and me. For the agreement to be binding I must sign a contract with apple. You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one Apple computer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On 1 mrt 2009, at 07:37, Charles Oppermann wrote: That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the EULA. Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on- line translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is presented and must be agreed to before use. I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in violation of any licenses, your position that clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law seems dubious and ill-advised. Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their license agreements in order to prevent it. If you are under 18 you can't make any legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or guardians are usually held responsible. ___ it's probably why this is happening in Sweden: http://www.ukfast.co.uk/internet-news/pirate-bay-court-case-starts.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports on Macbook
On 27 feb 2009, at 13:39, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: Em Sex, 2009-02-27 às 14:45 +0300, z...@zaa.pp.ru escreveu: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan wrote: Hi I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My wife is planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons. Hello... I use a free version of the Leopard based on darwin (freebsd6) named hackintosh it is the google, it is free, and just works... You can even buy a standard notebook, and install. I will transform the notebook in an apple leopard 10. Tha's, ehm, quite illegal to say the least...___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On 12 dec 2008, at 20:32, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I disagree. I believe, rather, that support for closed hardware specs isn't *as* important -- but is still at least somewhat important. My reservation to the 3D driver thing is it is setting a very dangerous precedent if the solution involves allowing a third party commercial enterprise to dictate features FreeBSD must include before they will support it. NVidia MUST INCLUDE full documentation of their hardware. this is normal - hardware manufacturer produces hardware, programmers do make support for it. what is common today isn't normal. did FreeBSD change to GPL? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On 12 dec 2008, at 21:54, dick hoogendijk wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:35:59 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: They do this to hide their hardware faults that way - that's the true reason they do this. With new hardware produced every year it MUST be buggy and certainly there are thousands of hardware bugs. with secret drivers - they can easily hide them. AFAIK at least half of their driver code are to do workaround of their hardware bugs. Your talking about things without providing any evidence as usual. It's just bollocks. NVidia has fabulous 3dgraphics cards and their drivers work very very well. At least they do on solaris (32/64bit). ...and Mac OSX and Linux and even Windows ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
SO - please just stop ALL NTG topics here. this group really lacks moderator. not someone that will remove posts he considers lame but all that is off topic. Off topic=not about FreeBSD OS. I'm amazed that you seem to think that making FreeBSD do what one wants it to do isn't a FreeBSD topic. exactly... when is something part of FBSD and when not? all the ports aren't? so dhcpd is not part of FBSD either? where does that philosophy ends then? is sendmail part of FBSD...? maybe the whole userland isn't and FreeBSD is just a kernel? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
On 11 dec 2008, at 12:28, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a bit for windows is not a problem. Those who need to do actual work, we have FreeBSD for example that's the most narrow minded post i've seen here since i'm on this group As if the only work that can be considered real work is the work you do... The reason why I CAN'T do any serious work on FreeBSD is because it lacks the NVidia drivers (i'm in the film/commercial industry). I've tried to maintain a FreeBSD server among all the linux workstations but gave up because it's too much trouble, just for one OS... I've had a chat with some developers for the software I use in the past about what they thought about supporting FreeBSD (Autodesk discreet). And all they could say is it'll never be supported because of the lack of drivers. So.. if I need to do actual work, I can use anything BUT FreeBSD... greetings Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Official FreeBSD Forums
Great, very useful! Thanks a lot! gr Arno On 16 nov 2008, at 17:04, Brad Davis wrote: Dear FreeBSD users, The FreeBSD project is finally, after much work, pleased to announce the availability of an official FreeBSD web based discussion forum. It is our hope that this forum will serve as a public support channel for FreeBSD users around the world and as a complement to our fine mailing lists. You can register and start using our new service here: http://forums.FreeBSD.org The structure of the forum is still in a late beta stage, so if you have ideas, suggestions for improvements or bug reports, send them to: forum-moderators at FreeBSD dot org. Please also have a look at our rules before you create your first thread or post your first message. You can find our official list of forum rules here: http://forums.freebsd.org/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_rules Also, FreeBSD developers (people with commit access to our CVS/SVN trees) can be distinguished by having an '@' character at the end of their username. It is our hope that both users and developers will find this new service useful. Please help spread the word. Sincerely, The FreeBSD Forums Admin Team ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Official FreeBSD Forums
On 17 nov 2008, at 01:02, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Well, it sounds like Minix may be gaining a new user soon then ;) I cannot begin to express how disappointed I am that a potential user's question turned into a flamewar. actually it's NOT a flamewar. it's my WARNING to all current FreeBSD community about the effect of doing such nonsense like trying to get as much users as possible. if You ignore this, after 2-3 years read my posts again. just to see Oh well, he was right, but it's too late. Learn from other's mistakes (like linux,netbsd), instead of repeating and repeating the same mistake again. why not learn from where it went wrong and do it better? If FreeBSD becomes popular we'll have to deal with it sooner or later I strongly recommend all of You to stop this bad trend. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
