Re: corporate backers of freebsd
Check out the BSDMall - iXSystems: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/community.html?id=QcQ8NEb5mv_arg=mv_argmv_pc=3 They provide all you are looking for in both products and support of the community. On Jan 2, 2008 10:50 AM, Gary Smithe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 4:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Smithe Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:11 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: corporate backers of freebsd Good Day All and Happy New Year, I'm not looking to incite anyone, but here comes a BSD vs Linux question. Yes, I tried searching the archives and found nothing. I used FreeBSD back in 2000 for a few firewalls, but due to certain influences I switched to Linux after a couple of years. I'm interested in getting back to the BSD's but have just one big concern. As most users Unix and it's clones, I prefer the free as in beer licensing model, but want to know that someone else is paying the big bills. In short, here's my question: Canonical, RedHat, IBM, Novell, and a slew of others are funding / supporting Linux development and pushing some of that development into the free community, so that all can benefit from full-time developers and the money that supports them. I've seen where Cisco and Juniper are using FreeBSD, and assuming there are other big names, do they directly fund or contribute to the community? Gary, FreeBSD USED TO HAVE a single large corporate sponsor. Walnut Creek. Well, while the upside of this is that you have a pot of money that can be used to fund advertising ventures, fund a position to act as the public face of the project, etc. the downside is that this ties the project to the fortunes of that big money pot. When Walnut Creek went downhill it caused a LOT of people who were using FreeBSD very much consternation. This is why today the project basically operates as a completely distributed project. You might as well ask who the corporate sponsor of the Gnutella network is. Nobody, and Everybody. Yet, that network carries billions of bytes of pirat... I mean, valuable video data, and is dependended on by many bootleggers.. I mean enterprenuers. ;-) People look at Linux and say how great it is that Linux has RedHat to make Linux look legitimate to the corporate world. They forget that as RedHat is a corporation, it is under a mandate to make a profit every year. Well, what happens if the day ever comes that RedHat starts losing money? Don't you think that people will suddenly start thinking that Linux has run out of steam? I do. There is no single corporation that is ever guarenteed to exist forever, last forever, and remain profitable forever. History is littered with large, rich companies that people once upon a time thought would never ever go out of business - yet they did anyway. By contrast, MOVEMENTS in history NEVER run out of steam. There are still, today, billions of people dumping billions of dollars every year into the Catholic Church - despite it's sordid history and current coverups of pedophiles - and that particular religious movement has been around more than 2000 years. We want to keep FreeBSD operating as a movement. As long as 1 person still believes and maintains it, it won't die. No matter how profitable or unprofitable it is to run. Ted Thank you all for the responses. I've tried to track down ways to contribute funds, as my programming skills are just above that of an intoxicated monkey. I found the FreeBSD foundation, which seems like the best place to start. I can't find, however, that any book, T-Shirt, or CD purchase from any vendor (including BSDmall) will send money back to the project. I understand there is value in evangelism from promoting FreeBSD via T-Shrits, stickers etc., as well as showing the profitability of books on BSD related topics to publishers (like No Starch). Have I missed an avenue of getting monetary support to FreeBSD? Thanks again. GS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convince me, please!
On 8/10/07, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start with DesktopBSD 1.6 since it's closer to FreeBSD than PC-BSD if you need to learn FreeBSD more. both of them should win a similar message at www.freebsd.org We are not supporting both DesktopBSD and PC-BSD. that's not out products, just loosely based on FreeBSD. Please DO NOT judge FreeBSD based of them ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know where you get 'loosely based on' ... both products are based _directly_ on FreeBSD... PC-BSD 1.3 on 6.1 p11 and 1.4 beta on 6.2 p3. DesktopBSD 1.6 is based on 6.2 AFAIK. Both _fully_ support ports and packages and are simply FreeBSD coupled to a KDE desktop of their creator's choice which you could easily modify using pkg_add/pkg_delete. PC-BSD does allow a user to use PBIs (Push Button Installer) which will install a package to it's unique directory with all the dependencies needed in that directory or one of its subs. This doesn't impinge on either ports or packages but does tend to use more disk space. Both current beta products use xorg 7.2. I too have been using FreeBSD since 2.2.8 and see no problems having a quick, easy to install (less than 10 minutes on a 165 Opteron) surfing desktop that doesn't spend 3 hours a day scanning for viruses or spyware. -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Thunderbird 2.0
from April 20 I portupgraded thunderbird today (6.1 p11, KDE 3.5.6_2) and while it's semi-functional, it does seg fault as it checks the pop server. Also has 3 lines/rows of Tag icons making the Toolbar height quite large. Each row grows progressively fainter (I'm pretty sure it's a group of icons but all show instead of just one row). TB 1.5 worked fine. Here's the error: Gtk-Qt theme engine warning: Could not open /proc/60384/cmdline This may cause problems for the GNOME window manager QSettings::sync: filename is null/empty Starting calendar alarm service observer added *** Calendar schema version is: 5 snooze time is:null considering alarm for item:Anniversary offset:-P1D, which makes alarm time:2007/04/12 07:00:00 UTC now is 2007/04/21 02:43:38 UTC Last ack was:2007/04/14 06:11:24 UTC Anniversary - alarm previously ackd2 thunderbird-bin in free(): warning: junk pointer, too high to make sense thunderbird-bin in free(): warning: junk pointer, too high to make sense Segmentation fault These problems were fixed by uninstalling all broken extensions and removing the theme I was using and installing the default theme. -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libxklavier fails portupgrade
Because libxklavier fails, subsequently so does libgnomekbd and gnome-control-center. I'm using 6.1 p11 and just suffered through a couple of days recompiling with portupgrade -rf gettext. The error it gives is: portupgrade -r libxklavier --- Upgrading 'libxklavier-3.2,1' to 'libxklavier-3.2_1,1' (x11/libxklavier) --- Building '/usr/ports/x11/libxklavier' === Cleaning for gmake-3.81_1 === Cleaning for pkg-config-0.21 === Cleaning for glib-2.12.11 === Cleaning for libxml2-2.6.27 === Cleaning for xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1 === Cleaning for gettext-0.16.1 === Cleaning for perl-5.8.8 === Cleaning for libtool-1.5.22_4 === Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_2 === Cleaning for imake-6.9.0_1 === Cleaning for libdrm-2.0.2 === Cleaning for freetype2-2.2.1_1 === Cleaning for fontconfig-2.4.2,1 === Cleaning for expat-2.0.0_1 === Cleaning for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 === Extracting for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 = MD5 Checksum OK for libxklavier-3.2.tar.gz. = SHA256 Checksum OK for libxklavier-3.2.tar.gz. === Patching for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 === Applying FreeBSD patches for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to libxklavier/xklavier_config.c.rej = Patch patch-libxklavier__xklavier_config.c failed to apply cleanly. = Patch(es) patch-configure applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libxklavier. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.20987.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT= libxklavier-3.2,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=3.2,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'x11/libgnomekbd' (libgnomekbd-2.18.0_2) because a requisite package 'libxklavier-3.2,1' (x11/libxklavier) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'sysutils/gnome-control-center' (gnome-control-center-2.18.0) because a requisite package 'libgnomekbd-2.18.0_2' (x11/libgnomekbd) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11/libxklavier (libxklavier-3.2,1) (patch error) * x11/libgnomekbd (libgnomekbd-2.18.0_2) * sysutils/gnome-control-center (gnome-control-center-2.18.0) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed Hopefully someone can shed some light on me ;-) -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libxklavier fails portupgrade
never mind, they've released a fix in the last few hours On 3/25/07, FreeBSD WickerBill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because libxklavier fails, subsequently so does libgnomekbd and gnome-control-center. I'm using 6.1 p11 and just suffered through a couple of days recompiling with portupgrade -rf gettext. The error it gives is: portupgrade -r libxklavier --- Upgrading 'libxklavier-3.2,1' to 'libxklavier-3.2_1,1' (x11/libxklavier) --- Building '/usr/ports/x11/libxklavier' === Cleaning for gmake-3.81_1 === Cleaning for pkg-config-0.21 === Cleaning for glib-2.12.11 === Cleaning for libxml2-2.6.27 === Cleaning for xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1 === Cleaning for gettext-0.16.1 === Cleaning for perl-5.8.8 === Cleaning for libtool-1.5.22_4 === Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_2 === Cleaning for imake-6.9.0_1 === Cleaning for libdrm-2.0.2 === Cleaning for freetype2-2.2.1_1 === Cleaning for fontconfig-2.4.2,1 === Cleaning for expat-2.0.0_1 === Cleaning for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 === Extracting for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 = MD5 Checksum OK for libxklavier-3.2.tar.gz. = SHA256 Checksum OK for libxklavier-3.2.tar.gz. === Patching for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 === Applying FreeBSD patches for libxklavier-3.2_1,1 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to libxklavier/xklavier_config.c.rej = Patch patch-libxklavier__xklavier_config.c failed to apply cleanly. = Patch(es) patch-configure applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libxklavier. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.20987.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT= libxklavier-3.2,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=3.2,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'x11/libgnomekbd' (libgnomekbd-2.18.0_2) because a requisite package 'libxklavier-3.2,1' (x11/libxklavier) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'sysutils/gnome-control-center' ( gnome-control-center-2.18.0) because a requisite package ' libgnomekbd-2.18.0_2' (x11/libgnomekbd) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11/libxklavier (libxklavier-3.2,1) (patch error) * x11/libgnomekbd (libgnomekbd-2.18.0_2) * sysutils/gnome-control-center (gnome-control-center-2.18.0) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed Hopefully someone can shed some light on me ;-) -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash with Firefox 2
On 3/18/07, NetOpsCenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pietro Cerutti wrote: On 3/16/07, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash continues to elude me... I'm currently running 6.2-STABLE, firefox-2.0.0.2,1, linux-flashplugin-7.0r69 and linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_7 and flash plugin works well on most of the websites I've been. Here's the relevant part of my /etc/libmap.conf [/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 libpthread.so.2 libdl.so.2pluginwrapper/flash7.so libz.so.1 libz.so.3 libm.so.6 libm.so.4 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash7.so Don't forget to add the symbolic links required: # cd /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/flashplayer.xpt . # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so . Hope this helps, -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator Chapman University Aloha. I've been following this thread since I have had many problems in the past with FireFox and Flash. I'm now running FreeBSD 7.0 CURRENT 200701 on a desktop box and loaded the linux flash and it works fine so far with Firefox and Mozilla on this box. It is a ASUS mobo - with a dual AMD 64 / 4200 clock This install is way better than any of the ones I have experienced with FreeBSD before. I have used FreeBSD since 3.* early 1990's if memory serves me. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which version of flash are you using on FreeBSD 7 CURRENT ? I'm using 6.1 p11 FF 2.0.0.2 + Flash 7 from ports and rarely have any crashes -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GMail [and other free email] and these lists?
On 2/12/07, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday February 12, 2007 at 04:45:44 (PM) Jeff Rollin wrote: In what way does Gmail suck? 1) No White Listing 2) No configurable SPAM Filtering 3) Bcc doesn't work 4) 500 message a day limit. 5) No PGP or S/MIME support 6) No able to 'Forward as Attachment' 7) Doesn't handle 'sig delimiter' 8) No ability to create or sort to folders. 9) No IMAP support 10. Is routinely blacklisted by SORBS, among other blacklisting services. The list just goes on and on. Get on the GMail discussion list and see what some of it's users have to say about it. It is good enough for someone who's greatest need is writing to Grandma, but that is about it. -- Gerard The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --I'm not 'renting' my OS-- and top posts by default ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to enable linux flash player in firefox
On 1/28/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/28/07, Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Tijl Coosemans wrote: I followed those instructions and with firefox-2.0.0.1_1,1 it gives this result: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/pluginwrapper/flash7.so: Undefined symbol _dlsym Since I'm now using 6.2-PRERELEASE I guess it could be fixed in the final RELEASE, but it would be nice to know if someone can recognize _dlsym and say it is so. You need to apply the rtld patch mentioned in the first link above. And I thought that I read that carefully! Was that paragraph added since I read the document? ;) Anyway. Can we hope that patch is finding it's way into the main branch with haste? FreeBSD without Flash working is not a suitable day-to-day websurfing system. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? How about it now? http://www.freshports.org/www/linuxpluginwrapper/ -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ Just installed the new linuxpluginwrapper and cp'd the new libmap.conf to /etc and everything works as before. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote Desktop Connection
On 1/24/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FreeBSD WickerBill wrote: On 1/24/07, Grzegorz Pluta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the replies guys! It was really helpful Cheers, Greg Kevin Kinsey wrote: Grzegorz Pluta wrote: Hi. Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you been using it? I use Xorg XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop connections: FreeBSD - FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see manpage). FreeBSD - Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem to like it. Windows - FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. Kind of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at the breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the window manager --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D Kevin Kinsey Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats to using different means of connecting. Here's a short rundown with all of my comments: rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+ servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want to install KDE. X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on all ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11 connection. VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort of bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11 only widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better than gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap the connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a large LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext, so passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable individual. I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but it's a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet. Cheers, - -Garrett - It's in the ports. portless nxserver This is a port of NoMachine's NX server, which is a way to use X connections over slow links without noticeable lag. WWW: http://www.nomachine.com I use it daily from a windows client to home computer running PC-BSD (KDE) It runs much faster than I could ever get VNC to run. I use rdesktop going from FreeBSD to Windows and it works fine too. WickerBill, Ah, excellent. Didn't know that.. ports_glob doesn't always turn up the right answers; a tool should be made in conjunction with portell to search package descriptions, similar to Gentoo's esearch I think.. Greg, Give nxserver a shot. It's by far a lot better than VNC and it ties directly into working X sessions IIRC and is equivalent in speed to remote desktop on Windows NT (in fact possibly faster from what I've heard on slower connections). Plus it's secure (built in ssh tie-ins). They (the devs) have a few test servers up so you can give it a shot and see how it works. Cheers, - -Garrett I use psearch, found in /urs/ports/sysutils/psearch An utility for searching the FreeBSD Ports Collection It returns one liners and then I use portless to read those I want more info on...I'll have to try portell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BBC debate Battle of the operating systems
On 1/25/07, Marco Muskus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/1/25, Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bill Moran wrote: In response to Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The BBC is to host a debate on multiple OSes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm They want one individual to represent each OS. Apparently they only want Vista, OS X and Linux, but I don't see why we can't press for FreeBSD. I sent them a comment about how FreeBSD should be included. I think that if enough of us send in comments, they'll re-open the submission. Where did you mail~ usually there's a link like tell us your opinion etc etc, but I could not see one on that page. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no sense in trying to explain to the media what BSD means, its like a try to run the NASCAR or the F1 with a Renault 4. Whats in the media lately ? Linux vs Vista vs OS X, no more ... in fact in my country a News channel show a report where they said Vista the most advanced and powerfull OS of the world, how did you try to make the world understand ? I don`t think that the BBC will understand We need a allied, -- Marco Muskus Movil: 300 5705151 ___ I, and several of my friends addressed BSD advantages on their website. I then wrote the next day complaining of only having a shoot-out with Windows and OSX. They finally got around to posting linux usage but are apparently biased or too STOOPIT! to acknowlege *BSD...which seem really odd as a netcraft query returns: Solaris 9/10 Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) 16-Jan-2007 212.58.224.116 BBC Internet Services, Docklands.http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=BBC-THDO-1,212.58.224.0,212.58.224.255 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote Desktop Connection
On 1/24/07, Grzegorz Pluta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the replies guys! It was really helpful Cheers, Greg Kevin Kinsey wrote: Grzegorz Pluta wrote: Hi. Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you been using it? I use Xorg XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop connections: FreeBSD - FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see manpage). FreeBSD - Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem to like it. Windows - FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. Kind of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at the breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the window manager --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D Kevin Kinsey Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats to using different means of connecting. Here's a short rundown with all of my comments: rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+ servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want to install KDE. X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on all ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11 connection. VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort of bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11 only widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better than gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap the connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a large LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext, so passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable individual. I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but it's a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet. Cheers, - -Garrett - It's in the ports. portless nxserver This is a port of NoMachine's NX server, which is a way to use X connections over slow links without noticeable lag. WWW: http://www.nomachine.com I use it daily from a windows client to home computer running PC-BSD (KDE) It runs much faster than I could ever get VNC to run. I use rdesktop going from FreeBSD to Windows and it works fine too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flash 9
Maybe this would be better asked on the ports list but I'm throwing it out here first. Adobe released the linux version today (found herehttp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz) and was wondering if anyone has tried it yet. I'm at work, not at a *BSD desktop. Thanks... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox mess in Freebsd 6.1
On 1/16/07, Warren Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:
My Firefox is crashing all the time since I setup the flash plugins,
I first plugged in the mplayer and after which it was working well.
Because several other news websites were expecting flash or shockwave
plugins
I went ahead and did everything per the instructions in
that procedure is outdated, so I'm not going to repeat the link
after doing this the firefox is crashing left and right.
Here's my checklist. This works on 6.2-Release and 6.2-Stable as of
16 Jan 2007 with Firefox 2.0.0.1:
Install the dlsym patch:
Note: a new version of rtld.c came out in stable on 16 Jan 2007. If you
don't run 6-Stable, fetch the patch file like this:
# cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/
# fetch http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/rtld_dlsym_hack.diff
Here's an updated patch file I made for rtld.c v 1.106.2.4:
--- rtld.c.orig Tue Jan 16 06:50:53 2007
+++ rtld.c Tue Jan 16 06:54:15 2007
@@ -131,6 +131,7 @@
static void unref_dag(Obj_Entry *);
static void ref_dag(Obj_Entry *);
+void *_dlsym(void *, const char *);
void r_debug_state(struct r_debug *, struct link_map *);
/*
@@ -182,6 +183,7 @@
(func_ptr_type) dlclose,
(func_ptr_type) dlerror,
(func_ptr_type) dlopen,
+(func_ptr_type) _dlsym,
(func_ptr_type) dlsym,
(func_ptr_type) dladdr,
(func_ptr_type) dllockinit,
@@ -1762,6 +1764,12 @@
trace_loaded_objects(obj);
wlock_release(rtld_bind_lock, lockstate);
exit(0);
+}
+
+void *
+_dlsym(void *handle, const char *name)
+{
+return dlsym(handle, name);
}
void *
--cut here
# patch rtld_dlsym_hack.diff
# make
# make install
Link the library:
cd /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins
ln -sf /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so .
ln -sf /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/flashplayer.xpt .
In /etc/libmap.conf:
# [ALPHA SUPPORT] Flash7 with Mozilla
[/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so]
libpthread.so.0 libpthread.so.2
libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash7.so
libz.so.1 libz.so.3
libm.so.6 libm.so.4
libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash7.so
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
On 1/10/07, Scott Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:32:41PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: Scott and Nikolas, I'll try to get the linuxplugin-wrapper port to work with Flash9 for Linux and then I'll submit the change upstream to the maintainer. I too am tired of the fact that Flash is so ubiquitous, but don't have much choice but to get it working. Aw well.. when in Rome, one must do as the Romans do.. even if it involves hideous plugins/content :). Garrett, That would be cool - I've not tried anything newer than Flash 7, although I guess there wasn't anything newer until recently, for Linux anyway. Would be great if you could get it to work. I've just noticed that there's a www/opera-linuxplugins port that appears to install Opera 9.10 with the necessary configuration tweaks to use Linux plugins. It should just be a matter of installing that, then adding the install dirs of the various plugins to Opera's plugin path... Cheers, Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you that don't know what's in the works I've found this page to be a handy reference for what is in the near future. http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd7.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sauerbraten gui edition choppy music
Has anyone installed the latest sauerbraten yet? I'm getting choppy music in it but not graphics. Didn't do this on the water edition. Doesn't do it in Cube. One caveat...a portupgrade requires that you delete your old ~/.sauerbraten directory as there are new bindings and symlinks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help
On 12/28/06, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 28 December 2006 13:11, rythms1 wrote: SNIP Can you please give some hints in how to make it work as a desktop at home and surf the net and burn cd's that all I want to do and word as well but for now I only want the desktop running. Julio :-( Try DesktopBSD. http:www.desktopbsd.net Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise Travel \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- Or PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.com It runs well on older equipment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEC 7170A-0B
On 12/18/06, FreeBSD WickerBill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone has used one of the later NEC *7170Ahttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152076 *DVD burners sucessfully with 6.0 or later? Thanks for your responses. Yes, I have and it works fine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NEC 7170A-0B
I was wondering if anyone has used one of the later NEC *7170Ahttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152076 *DVD burners sucessfully with 6.0 or later? Thanks for your responses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make problems with amarok 1.4.3_3
I did a make rmconfig and a make clean in the /usr/ports/audio/amarok before I started again as I've had this same error 3 times now. Anyone have a clue as to what I need to do? here are the last few lines and, Thanks, gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src/konquisidebar' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src/konquisidebar' Making install in statusbar gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src/statusbar' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src/statusbar' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src/statusbar' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src/statusbar' Making install in . gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src' test -z /usr/local/lib || /bin/sh ../../admin/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/lib /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --silent --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel 'libamarok.la' '/usr/local/lib/libamarok.la' install: /usr/local/lib/libamarok.so.0: No such file or directory gmake[4]: *** [install-libLTLIBRARIES] Error 71 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src' gmake[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src' gmake[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok/src' gmake[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/audio/amarok/work/amarok-1.4.3 /amarok' gmake: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/amarok. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Experience #2
Must have missed your rant Bob. You may want to check out PC-BSDhttp://www.pcbsd.org, a graphical installer that loads the KDE desktop on completion and rides on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2. If your hardware is supported in FreeBSD then it's pretty painless. I dropped Windows at my home over 4 months ago and am not missing it. On 9/11/06, Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to *all* who responded to my whining -- you've been great, and I am going to give FreeBSD another try. Apologies to all if I sounded like a twit... I was just eager to try something new as I have had it with MS products. Regards, Bob Walker Surveys Forecasts, LLC 2323 North Street Fairfield, CT 06824-1738 T +1.203.255.0505 F +1.203.549.0635 M +1.203.685.8860 www.safllc.com NOTICE: The information in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and contains confidential and privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, immediately contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email and all other documents included with it. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
