Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD
-- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore -- processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem? -- That sounds totally wrong. Is that sarcasm or irony? Von: Polytropon free...@edvax.de An: Georg Reilinger georgreilin...@yahoo.de CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Gesendet: 5:24 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013 Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 + (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote: As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. As for other desktop environments, yes. Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in assuming this? I think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal, as KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD due to lack of contribution. I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. May I ask which live system this is? The thing here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after having turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk... Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem? That sounds totally wrong. When you play a music file and move the window, do you get skipping audio, too? Just scary... As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system running with KDE 3.5 once again: 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version. Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1. Yes, this will work. But note that you are running an OS that has been gone out of support, so you probably won't be able to install newer software using ports or packages. However, you can use the system as is, and even use ports as long as the distfiles are still kept available online. 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? Is that be possible? That should be possible if you install the required compat7x port on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure you won't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to install the KDE stuff on a clean system (right after compat7x) so there won't be much confusion. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD
Hi everybody, My issue is the following: As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in assuming this? I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after having turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk... As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system running with KDE 3.5 once again: 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version. Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html This is something that I don't really feel like doing. 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? Is that be possible? Any other solutions? Many thanks Georg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD
Von: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com An: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Gesendet: 2:37 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013 Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD -- Some decisions from upstream are a PITA. I'm from Linux, it's more up-to-date than FreeBSD. On Linux I switched from KDE 3 to GNOME 2, when KDE 4 was introduced and from GNOME 2 to Xfce, when GNOME 3 was introduced. I have tried both, GNOME and Xfce. Found both to be kinda yuckie. Not really feeling at home here. -- There are forks of GNOME 2, but I guess there's no fork of KDE 3. Actually there is. It is called Trinity: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ , but I don't know, if it is currently supported on FreeBSD. If not, may be a reason, to become a porter! -- Some users claim that it should be possible to set up KDE 4, that it become equal to KDE 3. I doubt that. I highly and holily second that. I have heard quite a few people complain about KDE 4's heavy hunger for resources. -- Another issue are hard dependencies, such as the dependency to the buggy pulseaudio. You better get rid of KDE and start to accustom to another DE. This would be my very last option. As you can see, I am still working on a go around here. 2 Cents, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tar compression
If it doesn't necessarily have to be tar, then I'd recommend using 7zip: archivers/p7zip It has among the best compression ratios. Von: Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com An: FreeBSD questions questi...@freebsd.org Gesendet: 3:29 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013 Betreff: tar compression The man page for tar command says there a 4 different compress types you can use, xz, bzip, bzip2 and gzip. Which one is the fastest and compresses the most? I am using -z option for gzip and it sure is slow. Hoping one of the other zip options are better. What do you guys use? Another question about tar is can I have tar create a compressed bkup of 2 files and a directory tree all in single tar command? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
