make of Cyrus-sasl fails

2004-03-07 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I tried to make Cyrus-sasl, but I failed like this:
(My system is FreeBSD 5.2.1 with MIT Kerberos)

cc -Wall -W -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib
-rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/local/lib -o saslauthd saslauthd.o mechanisms.o auth_dce.o
auth_getpwent.o auth_krb5.o auth_krb4.o auth_pam.o auth_rimap.o
auth_shadow.o auth_sia.o -L/usr/local/lib -lgssapi_krb5 -lkrb5
-lk5crypto -lcom_err -lcrypt -lpam  -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
-Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath
-Wl,/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib/libkrb5.so: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely;
consider using mkstemp()
auth_krb5.o: In function `k5support_verify_tgt':
auth_krb5.o(.text+0xe6): undefined reference to `krb5_data_zero'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl/work/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28/saslauthd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl/work/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl/work/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl.

Am I doing something wrong?

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UW-Imap build question

2004-03-07 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I read that I can get uw-imap to work with Kerberos b compiling nlp with
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss

Can I still do this through the port, and how?


3.10 How do I configure Kerberos V5?

imap-2002 supports client and server functionality on UNIX and
32-bit Windows. 

Kerberos V5 is supported by default in Windows 2000 builds:

 nmake -f makefile.w2k

Other builds require that a third-party Kerberos package, e.g.
MIT Kerberos, be installed on the system first.

To build with Kerberos V5 on UNIX, include
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss in the make command line, e.g.

 make lnp EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss

To build with Kerberos V5 on Windows 9x, Windows Millenium, and
NT4, use the makefile.ntk file instead of makefile.nt:

 nmake -f makefile.ntk
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make of Cyrus-sasl fails

2004-03-05 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I tried to make Cyrus-sasl, but I failed like this:
(My system is FreeBSD 5.2.1 with MIT Kerberos)

cc -Wall -W -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib
-rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/local/lib -o saslauthd saslauthd.o mechanisms.o auth_dce.o
auth_getpwent.o auth_krb5.o auth_krb4.o auth_pam.o auth_rimap.o
auth_shadow.o auth_sia.o -L/usr/local/lib -lgssapi_krb5 -lkrb5
-lk5crypto -lcom_err -lcrypt -lpam  -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
-Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath
-Wl,/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib/libkrb5.so: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely;
consider using mkstemp()
auth_krb5.o: In function `k5support_verify_tgt':
auth_krb5.o(.text+0xe6): undefined reference to `krb5_data_zero'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl/work/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28/saslauthd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl/work/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl/work/cyrus-sasl-1.5.28.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl.

Am I doing something wrong?

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CUPS Kerberos

2004-03-04 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Is there any hack to get CUPS to authenticate to Kerberos?

It seems to support either plain Unix authentication or it's own MD5
passwd file only :-(

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UW-Imap build question

2004-03-04 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I read that I can get uw-imap to work with Kerberos b compiling nlp with
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss

Can I still do this through the port, and how?


3.10 How do I configure Kerberos V5?

imap-2002 supports client and server functionality on UNIX and
32-bit Windows. 

Kerberos V5 is supported by default in Windows 2000 builds:

 nmake -f makefile.w2k

Other builds require that a third-party Kerberos package, e.g.
MIT Kerberos, be installed on the system first.

To build with Kerberos V5 on UNIX, include
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss in the make command line, e.g.

 make lnp EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss

To build with Kerberos V5 on Windows 9x, Windows Millenium, and
NT4, use the makefile.ntk file instead of makefile.nt:

 nmake -f makefile.ntk
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Re: USB 2.0 harddisk performance

2004-03-02 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello Charles

Thanks for your answer.

I was googling for this, and I found out that you need some modules:
firewire.c fwohci.c fwohci_pci.c 

Will the fwohci driver provide better perfomance then the USB one?

On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 19:05, Charles Swiger wrote:
 On Mar 1, 2004, at 11:36 AM, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  Is firewire fully supported on FreeBSD?
 
 Firewire support has been pretty good, at least for accessing mass 
 storage devices.  I haven't beaten on IP-over-Firewire or some of the 
 other capabilities that one might also experiment with
 
  The disk does have a firewire link, I can buy an addon card for about 
  30
  ¤, but I wanna make sure that it will work better.
 
 I was seeing about 35 MB/s read and about 20 MB/s using a Maxtor 5000DN 
 external drive via Firewire; this drive also supports USB 2, but at the 
 time I was testing OHCI USB was all that was available to me, not EHCI.
 
 (USB 1 was giving ~1.2 MB/s...)
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USB 2.0 harddisk performance

2004-03-01 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I have a USB 2.0 harddisk (internally ATA-100) connected to a USB 2.0
port.

Unfortunatly, data transfers are limited to 1 MB/second (reported by
FreeBSD on detection, and confirmed using Bonnie).

Any ideas?

I'm running 5.2.1

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Re: USB 2.0 harddisk performance

2004-03-01 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Thanks Dany

Is firewire fully supported on FreeBSD?

The disk does have a firewire link, I can buy an addon card for about 30
¤, but I wanna make sure that it will work better.



On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 17:11, Dany Nativel wrote:
 Have you enabled EHCI support ?
 
 Even with EHCI enabled the speed won't be that great. According to the 
 man page, the code is still under development and therefore pretty buggy.
 
 Maybe you'll have better luck with Firewire.
 
 Dany
 
 Guy Van Sanden wrote:
 
 I have a USB 2.0 harddisk (internally ATA-100) connected to a USB 2.0
 port.
 
 Unfortunatly, data transfers are limited to 1 MB/second (reported by
 FreeBSD on detection, and confirmed using Bonnie).
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I'm running 5.2.1
 
   
 
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Re: USB 2.0 harddisk performance

2004-03-01 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Silly question Dany, how do I enable EHCI?



On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 17:11, Dany Nativel wrote:
 Have you enabled EHCI support ?
 
 Even with EHCI enabled the speed won't be that great. According to the 
 man page, the code is still under development and therefore pretty buggy.
 
 Maybe you'll have better luck with Firewire.
 
 Dany
 
 Guy Van Sanden wrote:
 
 I have a USB 2.0 harddisk (internally ATA-100) connected to a USB 2.0
 port.
 
 Unfortunatly, data transfers are limited to 1 MB/second (reported by
 FreeBSD on detection, and confirmed using Bonnie).
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I'm running 5.2.1
 
   
 
 
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Firewire card support

2004-03-01 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Which firewire cards are currently supported on FreeBSD (I'm looking to
buy one)?


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Docs on Kerberos with LDAP or NIS

2003-11-29 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello

I have been looking for some documentation about setting up
authentication using kerberos with LDAP or NIS, but I haven't found
anything usefull yet.

Does anyone have some links or a site that can help?

Thanks

Guy

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Re: 5.x downgrade recommendation

2003-11-28 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I got some weird disklabel behavior, rpc.yppasswdd doesn't work and nfsd
crashes on portscans/nessus-probes.
That and a lot of system instability.  I don't have to reboot daily, but
the box has never passed 20 days uptime. 

Prior to yesterdays reboot, it was up 11 days, which seems to be about
my average.

I used to run FreeBSD 4.6 (before moving to 5), and it never showed a
sign of instability, with uptimes going from 30 to 90 days (I rarely get
more because my power grid becomes unstable during thunder or
wind-stroms, so I shut down all machines during those).



On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 23:51, JacobRhoden wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:18 pm, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  I'm now considering if I will do the upgrade to 5.2-RELEASE, or
  reinstall the system with 4.9 or 4.10.
  The 5.x branch seems to remain rather unstable longer then I had
  anticipated.
 
 Are you actually having problems running 5.1-RELEASE? I would only bother if 
 there is some bug which is causing problems. I run 5.1-RELEASE and it works 
 fine and dandy with no particularly bad problems (:
 
  What would you guys recommend, wait out for 5.3 (which is supposed to be
  4.x-like stable), or move back to 4.9 (or 4.10 soon).
 
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5.x DOS against NFS server

2003-11-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello everyone

I found that the NFS server in the 5.x series (currently 5.1) crashes
during portscans (because of the aborted connection to it).
Running nmap or Nessus against the machines requires a manual restart of
nfsd.

Do others here also have this problem?

I reproduced it on 5.0-RELEASE and 5.1-RELEASE.

Kind regards

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5.x downgrade recommendation

2003-11-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I've moved to the 5.x branch since 5.0-RLEASE, currently, I'm running
5.1-RELEASE.

I'm now considering if I will do the upgrade to 5.2-RELEASE, or
reinstall the system with 4.9 or 4.10.
The 5.x branch seems to remain rather unstable longer then I had
anticipated.

What would you guys recommend, wait out for 5.3 (which is supposed to be
4.x-like stable), or move back to 4.9 (or 4.10 soon).

Will 5.2 be much better?

I know I made the move too soon, but at that time, I was relatively new
to FreeBSD (coming from linux) and I misjudged the readiness of 5.x and
I hadn't forseen that my homeserver would become that important (It is a
CVS repository for 4 websites now).

Thanks for your advice

Guy


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5.x downgrade recommendation

2003-11-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I've moved to the 5.x branch since 5.0-RLEASE, currently, I'm running
5.1-RELEASE.

I'm now considering if I will do the upgrade to 5.2-RELEASE, or
reinstall the system with 4.9 or 4.10.
The 5.x branch seems to remain rather unstable longer then I had
anticipated.

What would you guys recommend, wait out for 5.3 (which is supposed to be
4.x-like stable), or move back to 4.9 (or 4.10 soon).

Will 5.2 be much better?

I know I made the move too soon, but at that time, I was relatively new
to FreeBSD (coming from linux) and I misjudged the readiness of 5.x and
I hadn't forseen that my homeserver would become that important (It is a
CVS repository for 4 websites now).

Thanks for your advice

Guy


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Re: 5.x DOS against NFS server

2003-11-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I just ran nmap host...
Nessus has the same effect.

Maybe this is fixed between 5.1 and 5.2.

On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 16:30, Michael L. Squires wrote:
  I found that the NFS server in the 5.x series (currently 5.1) crashes
  during portscans (because of the aborted connection to it).
  Running nmap or Nessus against the machines requires a manual restart of
  nfsd.
 
 I just portscanned my 5.2-BETA box running NFS server, no problems.
 
 What parameters did you use?
 
 Mike Squires
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Persistent Cups process

2003-11-26 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I'm having trouble with cups...

My printer's ink cartridge got completely empty, and I didn't have a
replacement handy.  So I killed of all print jobs.
Unfortunately, one of the cups processes for the running job seems to be
stuck.

...54562  0.0  0.4  2616 1140  ??  D 5:51PM   0:52.48
parallel:/dev/lpt0 198 ...

I tried kill -9, but nothing helps.
Shutting down cups doesn't do it either, and I don't want to reboot the
box for it (reminds me too much of Windows).

Any ideas how I can get rid of it?

I'm on FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE, Cups 1.1.19 with gimp-print.

Kind regards

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Re: Overheating attributed to Freebsd --sysctl variablesnotavailable--

2003-11-06 Thread Guy Van Sanden
 on pcib2
  pcib2: slot 2 INTA is routed to irq 10
  pcib2: slot 2 INTA is routed to irq 10
  pcib2: slot 3 INTA is routed to irq 5
  pcib2: slot 5 INTA is routed to irq 10
  pcib2: slot 8 INTA is routed to irq 10
  cbb0: TI1520 PCI-CardBus Bridge irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci2
  cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
  cbb1: TI1520 PCI-CardBus Bridge irq 10 at device 2.1 on pci2
  cardbus1: CardBus bus on cbb1
  pcm0: ESS Technology Allegro-1 port 0x5000-0x50ff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci2
  pcm0: failed to enable memory mapping!
  pcm0: ESS Technology ES1988 AC97 Codec
  fwohci0: vendor=104c, dev=8026
  fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem
 0xe820-0xe8203fff,0xe8207000-0xe82077ff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci2
  fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1)
  fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4.
  fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:b8:04:00:01:8d:16
  fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports.
  fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
  firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
  fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
  fwohci0: BUS reset
  fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
  firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop = 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
  firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
  fxp0: Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) Pro/100 VE Ethernet port 0x5400-0x543f mem
 0xe8206000-0xe8206fff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci2
  fxp0: Ethernet address 00:e0:b8:4b:52:c5
  miibus0: MII bus on fxp0
  inphy0: i82562ET 10/100 media interface on miibus0
  inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
  isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
  isa0: ISA bus on isab0
  atapci0: Intel ICH3 UDMA100 controller port
 0x1860-0x186f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 mem 
 0xe800-0xe80003ff at
 device 31.1 on pci0
  ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
  ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
  ichsmb0: Intel 82801CA (ICH3) SMBus controller port 0x1880-0x189f irq 10 at 
  device
 31.3 on pci0
  smbus0: System Management Bus on ichsmb0
  smb0: SMBus generic I/O on smbus0
  pci0: simple comms at device 31.6 (no driver attached)
  acpi_lid0: Control Method Lid Switch on acpi0
  ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.LID_._PSW] (Node 
  0xc4037b20),
 AE_NOT_EXIST
  acpi_acad0: AC adapter on acpi0
  acpi_cmbat0: Control method Battery on acpi0
  acpi_cmbat1: Control method Battery on acpi0
  acpi_button0: Sleep Button on acpi0
  atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
  atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
  kbd0 at atkbd0
  psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
  psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
  acpi_ec0: embedded controller port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0
  ppc0 port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0
  ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
  ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
  ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
  lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
  lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
  ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
  sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0
  sio0: type 16550A
  pmtimer0 on isa0
  orm0: Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xc on isa0
  sc0: System console on isa0
  sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200
  vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
  sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
  sio1: port may not be enabled
  Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
  IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
  cbb0: Unsupported card type detected
  cbb1: Unsupported card type detected
  ata1-slave: timeout waiting for interrupt
  ata1-slave: ATAPI identify failed
  ad0: 28615MB IC25N030ATCS04-0 [58140/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
  acd0: CD-RW UJDA730 DVD/CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33
  Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
  cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
  cd0: MATSHITA UJDA730 DVD/CDRW 1.02 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
  cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
  cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray 
  closed
   /var/run/dmesg.boot 
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yppasswd fails

2003-11-04 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Yppasswd fails on my 5.1 box (has always worked on 4.5 to 5.0) with
yppasswd: pam_chauthtok(): error in service module

There's also a syslog message:
Nov  4 22:54:54 *** yppasswd: in pam_sm_chauthtok(): yppasswd_local():
failed to connect to rpc.yppasswdd: ***: RPC: Program not registered

Yet rpcinfo -p shows:
191   udp821  yppasswdd
191   tcp   1010  yppasswdd


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Help: recover deleted file

2003-10-26 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello

I accidently ran rm on some files I still need (as a user)..  OK, that's
what you get for running a terminal early on a sunday morning :-(

The files were fairly recent, and are not on any of my backups yet
(something I will need to fix).

I tried to install ffsrecov, but it is broken on my system.
I'm running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE.
I deleted the files on a Linux box (Gentoo) over an NFS connection, they
were stored on the FreeBSD system.

Thanks for any help

Guy


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Re: RC1 ... PGP signing ...

2003-10-03 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:15, Robert G. Waycott wrote:
 My friend just notified me that rc1 is out. I have been working the past
 few days, so was not aware. Now, I wonder if I must reinstall the system
 with an rc1 .iso, or if a CVSup, portupgrade/make world will do?
 
 Second question: why do many users on the list PGP sign messages? Is
 there something nefarious out there about which I should worry? Is
 PGP-signing really providing a great deal of security?
 

Although I don't sign my messages to mailing lists, PGP signatures are a
good way to determine if a message really came from the person that the
headers indicate.  If you are really sure that a particular key belongs
to someone, than you can rest assure that a message signed by that key
came from the sender (unless he got his private key and passphrase
stolen) *and* that the message arrived unchanged.

You can do a lot of damage by either forging E-mails from someone, or
modifying E-mails (I saw that kind of stuff in my college-days, some
kids send offensive Emails to teachers from other kids addresses).
No PGP signatures should solve this problem.

One cautionary note, PGP/Mime signed mails are not displayed by Outlook
at all (its MIME implementation is a complete mess).


 Esse quam videri,
 
 --Bob.
 
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Re: CUPS on SSL

2003-10-02 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Sorry for the late answer (I was away)

I created the certs like I would for apache (there's a script for it
somewhere).
Yet I cannot connect to the https web interface... strange

On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:03, Matthias Teege wrote:
 Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hello all
 
  I've recently set up my CUPS server with SSL protection (reconfigured
  the clients to have 'Encryption Required' in the client.conf file.
 
 Can you also connect to the admin interface with https://host:631?
 How do you create the server certificates.
 
 Bis dann
 Matthias

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NFS server redundancy/failover

2003-09-29 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello 

Does anyone know if and how it is possible to set up a redundant NFS server?
What I want to do is this, I have a primary NFS server that serves home directories 
and data storage.
I also have a second system with a lot of disk-capacity, I could set it up as a 
'mirror' using rsync.
Now, when the primary NFS goes down, clients should automaticly look for the backup 
one.

My network is running both FreeBSD 5.0 (on the server) and Linux (Mandrake 9.1).

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kind regards

Guy

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CUPS on SSL

2003-09-29 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello all

I've recently set up my CUPS server with SSL protection (reconfigured the clients to 
have 'Encryption Required' in the client.conf file.
How can I verify that SSL is really working on that connection?  I am on a switched 
network, so sniffing from another machine is difficult.

Kind regards

Guy Van Sanden

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Re: NFS server redundancy/failover

2003-09-29 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hi Matthias

Thank you for your answer.
I think I'll do it that way, I was wondering if it would have been possible, Solaris 
supports giving multiple servers when mounting NFS shares, but I couldn't find 
something similar on FreeBSD and Linux.

Kind regards

Guy

On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 14:30, Matthias Teege wrote:
 Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Does anyone know if and how it is possible to set up a redundant NFS server?
 
 Somthing like that is expensive and mostly not needed. Rsync with a
 hot standby system is ok. If the mainserver fail, go to the second
 and reconfigure the ip interface.
 
 Bis dann
 Matthias

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Re: Sendmail vs. Postfix...

2003-09-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I'm sorry, it wasn't for me.
I installed postfix from ports and stopped sendmail, postfix still didn't start though 
(it had port 25 open, but didn't respond to it).
Eventually I reverted to sendmail.

I'm on FreeBSD 5.0 BTW.

I do have postfix running fine on Linux, I might add.

On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 21:43, synrat wrote:
 what do you mean postfix is hard to setup ?
 It's fully functional after the installation, you can send e-mail
 right away
 and you only need a few changes to main.cf to accept e-mail.
 The file is very well commented, save the changes, and run
 'postfix reload' as root.
 
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Payne wrote:
 
  Hey,
 
  Quick question. How hard is it to set up Postfix. I am getting tried of
  Sendmail. Is it hard to set up Postfix to access passwords  so that the
  only mail can be sent.
 
  Chuck
 
 
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Re: Disklabe oddity

2003-09-23 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 16:38, Peder Blom wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:44:28 +0200
 Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I get a strange message from disklabel:
  Warning, partition c doesn't start at 0!
  Warning, partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
  Warning, An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard
  system utilities
  
  What does this mean?
 
 You don't say what version of FreeBSD you are running. I recall that
 this problem has been discussed several times on freebsd-current though,
 so it might be better to check there.

I'm running 5.0, so that can very well be.
Thanks.

 
 
  I'm considering reinstalling the system with 5.2, reformatting the
  disk, but I don't know if this will clear the error.  It will have a
  larger root though.
 
 It's a warning and not necessarily an error. IIRC it *might* be an issue
 with bsdlabel, but don't take my word for it, go and check current, or
 google mailing.freebsd.current.


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Re: Disklabe oddity

2003-09-23 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 02:46, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
 
 Still wrapped output.  This is painful to recover, and I tend to lose
 interest when it continues.
 

I looked at your page, and you make a good point.
When I return later today, I'll look/google for a way to set Ximian
Evolution up to do this correctly (if that is possible), otherwise, I'll
file a bug-report with them.

 On Saturday, 20 September 2003 at 11:53:41 +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  Thanks you for your very complete answer Greg
 
 
  On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:59, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
  [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
  The disk was formatted by the FreeBSD install procedure.
 
  If you haven't changed anything here, it would be interesting to know
  in more detail just what you did.  To judge by the surprising number
  of partitions, you didn't take the defaults.
 
  I just created seperate partitions for / /tmp /var /usr etc.  The c
  partition was created by FreeBSD on its own.  Could this be a BIOS
  problem, my system BIOS predates that size of disks by far?
 
 Barely possible.  
 
  The system is an older Digital PC (3500) PII 333 Mhz.  The disk is
  a 40 GB IDE drive (WD)
 
  BTW, I'm looking for a safe way to 'grow' my rootfs, I've looked
  arround before, but I'm still not clear on the right procedure for
  it.
 
  Take a look at growfs(8).  To do it right, you need space directly
  behind the root file system.  Even Vinum won't help here.  You could
  move the swap space elsewhere, for example.
 
  I'm looking at that option, lucky that I have a second disk with rsynced
  mirrors of all partitions on the first one.  I can just remove /home and
  /data and copy them back later.
 
 Well, yes, or you can completely reinstall.  I was looking at a less
 intrusive way of doing it.
 
  Perhaps I can add the swap space to / and create a new swap further
  back on the disk.
 
 It's not a good idea to add swap space to a file system.  It's better
 to have your own partition.  Probably what you have is more than
 adequate, though.

I wasn't planning to put the swap on the fs, I would create a swap
partition further back on the disk, then delete the existing one and
extend the root fs to include the that space.
I'm only not sure if this would cause the slice letters to move (/ is
slice a, swap is b - it I remove it, will it cascade the others down?)

 
  You can clear the error by running disklabel -e /dev/ad0s1a in single
  user mode, and changing the length and offset of partition c (offset
  0, add 63 to the size).
 
  I wanted to try this on the mirror disk first, it also shows the offset
  at 63 using disklabel -r
  Yet doing disklabel -e on it shows the offset at 0
  8 partitions:
  #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
a:   32768004.2BSD 2048 16384 20488   # (Cyl.0 - 325*)
b:  1007984   327680  swap# (Cyl.  325*- 1325*)
c: 804181770unused0 0 # (Cyl.0 - 79779*)
d:  1007616  13356644.2BSD 2048 16384 62984   # (Cyl. 1325*- 2324*)
e:  1024000  23432804.2BSD 2048 16384 64008   # (Cyl. 2324*- 3340*)
f: 18120704  33672804.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 3340*- 21317*)
g: 20971520 214879844.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 21317*- 42122*)
h: 37958673 424595044.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 42122*- 79779*)
 
 It looks as if you have two different partition tables.  This one
 doesn't match the other.  Are you still getting the message?

Strangely engough, yes
Someone suggested that this might be a problem in -current, so I'll
check those lists later today.

 
 Greg
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Re: USB storage dongles and umass driver

2003-09-23 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hi Tom

As far as I know, if the device is USB mass storage, it is generic.
That protocol is just SCSI over USB, so should be as generic as SCSI
once was.

On Linux, all USB-mass storage devices (including digicams) are
supported using only one driver, I guess it should be the same on
FreeBSD.

If you plug it in, try cdrecord -scanbus to see if it is connected.

Good luck

Guy

On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 02:13, Tom Parquette wrote:
 Hi.
 I was looking at the Sunday ads and I found a LEXAR JumpDrive at a price 
 that I could swallow.
 I looked at umass and it talks about supporting a couple of models of 
 SanDisk dongles in flash mode.
 I do not know too much about these.  If my terms are incorrect, please 
 correct me.
 
 The question I have is, are these devices generic enough that other 
 manufacturer's devices will work with the umass driver?
 Something like this would be nice for transporting a few things to and 
 from work.  e.g. Installing Lotus Notes under wine on my FreeBSD machine 
 and using one of these USB devices for carrying my Notes ID file and 
 personal address book.
 
 Comments/insights?
 Thanks.
 
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CVSUP upgrade 5.0 - 5.1

2003-09-20 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I've been contemplating upgrading my FreeBSD 5.0 to 5.1 using cvsup
(mainly since there is no official security branch for 5.0 anymore)

What I wanted to ask is if I might expect some ports to break after it.
I'm running Bugzilla (on MySQL), apache, Big Brother (not from ports),
NTP, Samba, tinydns, dnscache and some others.

I want to be prepared to handle these befor attempting the upgrade.

Thanks 

Guy

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Disklabe oddity

2003-09-20 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I get a strange message from disklabel:
Warning, partition c doesn't start at 0!
Warning, partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
Warning, An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system
utilities

What does this mean?
The disk was formatted by the FreeBSD install procedure.
The system is an older Digital PC (3500) PII 333 Mhz.
The disk is a 40 GB IDE drive (WD)

BTW, I'm looking for a safe way to 'grow' my rootfs, I've looked arround
before, but I'm still not clear on the right procedure for it.
I'm considering reinstalling the system with 5.2, reformatting the disk,
but I don't know if this will clear the error.  It will have a larger
root though.

Thanks for any help/suggestions.


# disklabel -r /dev/ad0s1c

# /dev/ad0s1c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad0s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 4865
sectors/unit: 78165360
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   327680   634.2BSD 2048 16384 20488   # (Cyl.0*-
20*)
  b:  1007984   327743  swap# (Cyl.   20*-
83*)
  c: 78156162   63unused0 0 # (Cyl.0*-
4864*)
  d:  1007616  13357274.2BSD 2048 16384 62984   # (Cyl.   83*-
145*)
  e:  1024000  23433434.2BSD 2048 16384 64008   # (Cyl.  145*-
209*)
  f: 18120704  33673434.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl.  209*-
1337*)
  g: 20971520 214880474.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 1337*-
2642*)
  h: 35696658 424595674.2BSD 2048 16384 28512   # (Cyl. 2642*-
4864*)
Warning, partition c doesn't start at 0!
Warning, partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
Warning, An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system
utilities


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Re: Disklabe oddity

2003-09-20 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Thanks you for your very complete answer Greg


On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 10:59, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
 
 Output wrapped.
 
 On Saturday, 20 September 2003 at 10:44:28 +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  I get a strange message from disklabel:
snip
  What does this mean?
 
 Well, as it says, your c partition doesn't start at 0, so it also
 can't cover the whole unit:
 
#  size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
c: 78156162   63unused0 0 # (Cyl.0*-4864*)
 
 What part of that don't you understand?
 
I don't understand how this happened, as I used the sysinstall menus to
lay-out the disk

  The disk was formatted by the FreeBSD install procedure.
 
 If you haven't changed anything here, it would be interesting to know
 in more detail just what you did.  To judge by the surprising number
 of partitions, you didn't take the defaults.

I just created seperate partitions for / /tmp /var /usr etc.  The c
partition was created by FreeBSD on its own.
Could this be a BIOS problem, my system BIOS predates that size of disks
by far?

 
  The system is an older Digital PC (3500) PII 333 Mhz.
  The disk is a 40 GB IDE drive (WD)
 
  BTW, I'm looking for a safe way to 'grow' my rootfs, I've looked
  arround before, but I'm still not clear on the right procedure for
  it.
 
 Take a look at growfs(8).  To do it right, you need space directly
 behind the root file system.  Even Vinum won't help here.  You could
 move the swap space elsewhere, for example.

I'm looking at that option, lucky that I have a second disk with rsynced
mirrors of all partitions on the first one.  I can just remove /home and
/data and copy them back later.
Perhaps I can add the swap space to / and create a new swap further back
on the disk.

 
  I'm considering reinstalling the system with 5.2, reformatting the
  disk,
 
 There's seldom a reason either to reinstall or to reformat.  If you
 don't want anything of the current installation, reinstallation may be
 faster, however.
 
  but I don't know if this will clear the error.
 
 You can clear the error by running disklabel -e /dev/ad0s1a in single
 user mode, and changing the length and offset of partition c (offset
 0, add 63 to the size).

I wanted to try this on the mirror disk first, it also shows the offset
at 63 using disklabel -r
Yet doing disklabel -e on it shows the offset at 0
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   32768004.2BSD 2048 16384 20488   # (Cyl.0 -
325*)
  b:  1007984   327680  swap# (Cyl.  325*-
1325*)
  c: 804181770unused0 0 # (Cyl.0 -
79779*)
  d:  1007616  13356644.2BSD 2048 16384 62984   # (Cyl. 1325*-
2324*)
  e:  1024000  23432804.2BSD 2048 16384 64008   # (Cyl. 2324*-
3340*)
  f: 18120704  33672804.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 3340*-
21317*)
  g: 20971520 214879844.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 21317*-
42122*)
  h: 37958673 424595044.2BSD 2048 16384 28552   # (Cyl. 42122*-
79779*)


 
 Greg
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Postfix problems

2003-09-20 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I tried to install postfix on my system (FreeBSD 5.0).
It compiles and installs fine (from ports), but it does not seem to
work.

nc host 25 gives a connection, but nothing else
Sending mail completely fails.

Am I missing something?  
Is there a sendmail to postfix migration howto or something?
Googling did not provide me mucht helpful information.

Thanks

Guy

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RE: Postfix problems

2003-09-20 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I forgot to mention this, I did that first, than ran /bin/sh
/etc/rc.sendmail stop
Postfix appears to run, yet does not repsond...

On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 16:34, fbsd_user wrote:
 You missed the most obvious point. The basic FBSD install is
 delivered with sendmail active. To get postfix to be the active mail
 server you have to disable sendmail and reboot FBSD.
 
 ADD this statement to your rc.conf file
 
 sendmail_enable=NONE  # Totally disable sendmail, allowing
 Postfix
 # to become the primary MTA.
 #
 (Mail transport agent)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Guy Van
 Sanden
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 10:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Postfix problems
 
 I tried to install postfix on my system (FreeBSD 5.0).
 It compiles and installs fine (from ports), but it does not seem to
 work.
 
 nc host 25 gives a connection, but nothing else
 Sending mail completely fails.
 
 Am I missing something?
 Is there a sendmail to postfix migration howto or something?
 Googling did not provide me mucht helpful information.
 
 Thanks
 
 Guy
 
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CVS tag blocks repository access

2003-09-18 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Help

I 'accidently' created a numeric tag in CVS by using:
cvs commit -r2.0 file
This would, according to the man page, set my revision to 2.0, but it
also created a sticky tag with that name. 
Now I cannot check in anything any more.

Removing the tag with 
cvs tag -d
or cvs rtag -d fails:
tag `2.0' must start with a letter

Does anyone know a clean way out of this?

Thanks very much

Guy

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Re: nis security (DES passwords)

2003-09-13 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I was looking arround for this, and I found that Kerberos uses DES
encryption, John (on my sytem) reports it rather weak:

Benchmarking: Standard DES [24/32 4K]... DONE
Many salts: 151603 c/s real, 169200 c/s virtual
Only one salt:  152806 c/s real, 155607 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: BSDI DES (x725) [24/32 4K]... DONE
Many salts: 5750 c/s real, 5940 c/s virtual
Only one salt:  5630 c/s real, 5721 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: FreeBSD MD5 [32/32]... DONE
Raw:3092 c/s real, 3752 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: OpenBSD Blowfish (x32) [32/32]... DONE
Raw:222 c/s real, 227 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: Kerberos AFS DES [24/32 4K]... DONE
Short:  143462 c/s real, 153271 c/s virtual
Long:   377600 c/s real, 394979 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: NT LM DES [24/32 4K]... DONE
Raw:1080115 c/s real, 1125120 c/s virtual

I'm now using MD5 passwords in NIS.

Yet it seems the consensus that Kerberos is secure, am I missing
something?

On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:00, Tillman Hodgson wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:35:16AM +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:15, Tillman Hodgson wrote:
   The rough instructions are fairly simple:
   
   * Set up Kerberos and ensure you have a working realm
   * Set up NIS, but set all the passwd fields to something that doesn't
 map to a real password (I like 'krb5', others like '*')
   
   That's about it. It works because authentication in a Kerberized world
   doesn't check the password field in the NIS maps anyway (or the
   /etc/master.passwd file for that matter). Your non-Kerberos app's will
   break for users that aren't local, but I consider the incentive to
   replace them a benefit :-)
  
  Do you have some links to websites or so that you used to set this up?
 
 Not really. Kerberos and NIS are both in the Handbook, and as I
 mentioned above I just changed the /var/yp/master.passwd that NIS was
 working off of to have 'krb5' in the password field.
 
 A quick bit of Google spelunking dug up some references but no
 HowTos. The RedHat Security Guide mentions it explicitly in the NIS
 section, for example.
 
  I'm very interested in this setup, with the added complication that the
  clients are Linux (and Windows using SAMBA), yet the server is FreeBSD
  (5.0).
 
 Normally NIS is a pain between different Unix implementations (due to
 the different passwd designs such as DES vs. MD5). When using Kerberos
 to handle the authentication, those problems go away. On the other
 handle, you get to learn how to install NIS and Kerberos on multiple
 operating systems :-)
 
 -T

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Re:

2003-09-12 Thread Guy Van Sanden
We'll try to keep it a secret :-)

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Re: nis security

2003-09-12 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:15, Tillman Hodgson wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 07:02:06PM -0500, Bruce Pea wrote:

xnip

   I'm a bit biased, however: I use NIS with Kerberos and think it's the
   cats pajamas :-)
  
  
  Hey Tilman,
 
 s/l/ll/ :-)
 
  This sounds exactly like what we are looking for. Can you point us to any 
  docs explaining how you do this??
 
 The rough instructions are fairly simple:
 
 * Set up Kerberos and ensure you have a working realm
 * Set up NIS, but set all the passwd fields to something that doesn't
   map to a real password (I like 'krb5', others like '*')
 
 That's about it. It works because authentication in a Kerberized world
 doesn't check the password field in the NIS maps anyway (or the
 /etc/master.passwd file for that matter). Your non-Kerberos app's will
 break for users that aren't local, but I consider the incentive to
 replace them a benefit :-)

Do you have some links to websites or so that you used to set this up?
I'm very interested in this setup, with the added complication that the
clients are Linux (and Windows using SAMBA), yet the server is FreeBSD
(5.0).

Thanks!

 
 You can get fancy and make a nice little Makefile to do all kinds of
 maintenance tasks for you (I'm just about finished tying in Mailman into
 the central auth for the rospa.ca domain). You can try some of the
 neater features of NIS (netgroups, etc) or fiddle with the config of
 Kerberos (I like longer ticket lifetimes), but the basic get it
 working stuff isn't complicated.



 
 -T

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Re: rsync problem

2003-09-03 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Thank you Malcolm

I'll try this one...

On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:59, Malcolm Kay wrote:
 On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:27, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  Hello
 
  I'm using rsync to sort of mirror two 40GB disks (once a day).
  All partitions work as expected, but root is weird (and as you can see
  below, I sort of made it too small).
 
  I use this command:
  /usr/local/bin/rsync -ax --delete / /mirror/rootfs
 
  But this is what I'm getting:
  df -m
  Filesystem  1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a   154   717051%/
  /dev/ad1s1a   154  138 497%/mirror/rootfs
 
  So, there's a 67 MB difference between both.
  I started out wite a cleanly formatted mirror (UFS2)
 
  My system is FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE-p11
 
  Thanks for any help
 
  Guy
 
 I expect rsync does not recognise hard linked files as such and makes 
 separate images of each directory link. Looking through /stand on my 4.8 
 system I see that this would create about 60Mb extra.
 
 You might do better with dump and restore:
 # cd /miiror/rootfs
 # dump -0 -a -f - / | restore -r -f -
 
 Malcolm
 
 
 
 
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Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1

2003-08-31 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hi Kent

Thanks for your answers!
I have one more question, the manual says to drop to single user mode
before doing buildworld, do you do this.
If I could avoid this, I could run buildworld during the night, and do
installworld when it suits me during the daytime.

Thank you very much

Guy

On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 22:00, Kent Stewart wrote:
 On Saturday 30 August 2003 11:44 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  Ah, I indeed forgot the system information.
  It is a P II 333 MHZ with 256 of RAM and an UDMA 33 HD (40 GB).
 
  Judging from your timings, this is going to take a while...
 
 Yes, on a machine with that speed, it will be several hours.
 
 
  Does buildworld and installworld always take equally long, even say
  only 10 files changed?
 
 Buildworld always takes about the same time. The installworld on my 
 machine runs 4 minutes.  Running mergemaster the first time on an 
 upgrade can take a while. You need to look at /usr/src/UPDATING for 
 when you need to run it and the options. 
 
 The installs are always fast and only the builds take much time.
 
 
  Are there any pitfalls I should be aware of (seeing that this would
  be the first time I attempt such a thing).
 
 That you have done a full src-all on your cvsup. There are also some 
 options that help in your /etc/make.conf. From what I saw a little 
 while ago, the default make.conf is now in the examples directory. 
 
 Don't let mergemaster replace your hosts entries and your user entries 
 in master.passwd and groups. I edit the password entries manually with 
 vipw and groups with vi. If you have a special /etc/printcap, it will 
 try to replace it. Just pay attention is all that is required. You can 
 save trouble if you back up /etc before you do the installs.
 
 Kent
 
 
  On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:34, Kent Stewart wrote:
   On Saturday 30 August 2003 08:58 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
How would I best upgrade my 5.0 installation to 5.1?
   
I have done binary (CD-ROM) updates on 4.x in the past, but I was
thinking this could be done using cvsup.
   
Can anyone briefly say wheter this procedure would be right:
- change default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_0 to RELENG_5_1
- cvsup the new sources
- follow instructions to buildworld+installworld in Chapter 21 of
the handbook.
   
Any ideas how long this would take ?
  
   It is totally a function of your computer. Since, you didn't
   provide that information, we can only provide information on our
   personal systems.
  
   I follow current, since I don't think 5.x is up to 4.x release
   quality at this point. I don't think it is far off, just not quite
   there. A buildworld, which is the longest part of an upgrade,
   requires 50+ minutes on my AMD 1600+ with 512 MB of DDR-266 memory
   and 3 ATA-100 HDs. Having less memory won't affect the build time
   unless you produce swaping. Having both /usr/src and /usr/obj on
   the same HD will also increase compile times.
  
   The buildkernel probably takes on the order of 10 minutes since it
   is long enough that I won't sit there to watch and I haven't timed
   my build script. The installs probably take less than 5 minutes.
  
   Kent

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Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1

2003-08-31 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Thanks, I hoped it would be so.

Chapter 21 of the handbook is not entirely clear about this, it does
seem to recommend dropping to single user mode before building...

I'll try it without anyway :-)

On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 10:50, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 10:20:12AM +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  Hi Kent
  
  Thanks for your answers!
  I have one more question, the manual says to drop to single user mode
  before doing buildworld, do you do this.
  If I could avoid this, I could run buildworld during the night, and do
  installworld when it suits me during the daytime.
 
 There is absolutely no need to go to single user mode before a
 buildworld/buildkernel.  Never has been necessary either, AFAIK.
 
 Read the manual a bit more carefully and I think you will find out that
 it agrees with me.

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Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1

2003-08-30 Thread Guy Van Sanden
How would I best upgrade my 5.0 installation to 5.1?

I have done binary (CD-ROM) updates on 4.x in the past, but I was
thinking this could be done using cvsup.

Can anyone briefly say wheter this procedure would be right:
- change default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_0 to RELENG_5_1
- cvsup the new sources
- follow instructions to buildworld+installworld in Chapter 21 of the
handbook.

Any ideas how long this would take ?

Thanks in advance

Guy

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Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1

2003-08-30 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Ah, I indeed forgot the system information.
It is a P II 333 MHZ with 256 of RAM and an UDMA 33 HD (40 GB).

Judging from your timings, this is going to take a while...

Does buildworld and installworld always take equally long, even say only
10 files changed?

Are there any pitfalls I should be aware of (seeing that this would be
the first time I attempt such a thing).

On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:34, Kent Stewart wrote:
 On Saturday 30 August 2003 08:58 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  How would I best upgrade my 5.0 installation to 5.1?
 
  I have done binary (CD-ROM) updates on 4.x in the past, but I was
  thinking this could be done using cvsup.
 
  Can anyone briefly say wheter this procedure would be right:
  - change default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_0 to RELENG_5_1
  - cvsup the new sources
  - follow instructions to buildworld+installworld in Chapter 21 of the
  handbook.
 
  Any ideas how long this would take ?
 
 
 It is totally a function of your computer. Since, you didn't provide 
 that information, we can only provide information on our personal 
 systems. 
 
 I follow current, since I don't think 5.x is up to 4.x release quality 
 at this point. I don't think it is far off, just not quite there. A 
 buildworld, which is the longest part of an upgrade, requires 50+ 
 minutes on my AMD 1600+ with 512 MB of DDR-266 memory and 3 ATA-100 
 HDs. Having less memory won't affect the build time unless you produce 
 swaping. Having both /usr/src and /usr/obj on the same HD will also 
 increase compile times.
 
 The buildkernel probably takes on the order of 10 minutes since it is 
 long enough that I won't sit there to watch and I haven't timed my 
 build script. The installs probably take less than 5 minutes.
 
 Kent

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Re: Patching procedures

2003-08-29 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello Matthew

Thank you for your very complete answer.
I'm going to be experimenting with this for a while, and I'll do a lot
of reading.

Kind regards

Guy



On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:29, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:09:35AM +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  ** message didn't make it to the list - sending again **
  
  
  I'm still relatively new to FreeBSD, and I was wondering what most of
  you use as a patching procedure for FreeBSD (not the ports)
  
  Up to now, I have always folowed the instructions in '2) To patch your
  present system:'.
  Yet somehow this seems like the long way to do it.
  
  Therefor, I'm wondering how most of you keep your systems up to date.
  
  For the moment, I'm only managing my home server (which is still
  critical), but I would also like to know how to manage this in a
  professional deployment (I used to manage Solaris networks, and we had
  these patch-clusters which were rahter nice).
 
 Unlike Solaris, FreeBSD generally operates by supplying patches to the
 system source code.  Colin Percival has a binary patch system under
 development, but it's not an official FreeBSD thing yet -- see
 http://www.daemonology.org/ for details.
 
 The standard way to keep a system up to date is to maintain an up to
 date copy of the system sources -- either which ever one of the
 release branches you've chosen, or 4-STABLE or 5-CURRENT -- and
 compile and install from there.
 
 For the release branches you can achieve that by starting with the
 sources as distributed on the CD Roms, and applying the patches as
 shown in any security advisories -- any changes to a release branche
 will be accompanied by an advisory notice, which is almost always a
 security advisory.  Technically it may be possible for a really
 crucial but not security related patch to be applied to a release
 branch, but it doesn't seem to happen much in practice.  The
 non-release branches (4-STABLE, 5-CURRENT) are under continuous
 development, so there's not going to be any specific points at which
 everyone will update, other than when large chunks of particularly
 awaited new functionality or big bugfixes go into the tree.  Or when
 (like now) a new release is in the offing.  Most private users
 tracking STABLE or CURRENT will just update every week or month or so,
 or when they get around to it.
 
 Whatever the release branch you've chosen, and particularly if you're
 running 4-STABLE of 5-CURRENT, it's much more convenient to use
 cvsup(1) to keep your sources up to date, rather than by applying
 patches.  There are a few other mechanisms around -- see Appendix A of
 the handbook --
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html
 
 but cvsup(1) is what the vast majority of the users use.
 
 If you're using FreeBSD in a commercial setting, then you should
 certainly be tracking one of the release branches and be implementing
 a testing regime on a spare server before pushing out updates to your
 production servers.  Whilst the FreeBSD project generally does
 extremely well at keeping 4-STABLE and the RELEASE branches stable,
 they do rely on bug reports from users and developers rather than
 having the sort of comprehensive QC test cycles that Sun performs.
 
 The test box function can be combined quite neatly with being a build
 server -- you can either make your own releases and cut them to CD-ROM
 for installation on your production machines, or just NFS mount the
 /usr/obj and /usr/src trees from the build box in order to install the
 upgrade.  With practice you can get an installkernel - reboot to
 single user - installworld - mergemaster - reboot cycle down to under
 15mins downtime, which is a lot quicker than it takes to install some
 Solaris patches.
 
 One other major difference between Solaris patches and FreeBSD updates
 is that FreeBSD doesn't offer you a specific mechanism to back out any
 changes you make.  Always make sure you have good backups from
 immediately before you start an upgrade cycle.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew

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Re: Is CIFS available already on FreeBSD?

2003-08-28 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello Anand

The protocol you are inquiring about is called SMB/CIFS.
Server Message Block/Common Internet File System.

The name in itself is very misleading, CIFS is not an Internet FS in any
way, but part of M$ file/print sharing implementation.

To answer your question, Samba is a fully functional SMB/CIFS server and
client.  
The client is provided as utilities like smbclient, smbmount.
On some systems you even get the option to use smbfs in fstab.

Kind regards

Guy


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Patching procedures

2003-08-27 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I'm still relatively new to FreeBSD, and I was wondering what most of
you use as a patching procedure for FreeBSD (not the ports)

Up to now, I have always folowed the instructions in '2) To patch your
present system:'.
Yet somehow this seems like the long way to do it.

Therefor, I'm wondering how most of you keep your systems up to date.

For the moment, I'm only managing my home server (which is still
critical), but I would also like to know how to manage this in a
professional deployment (I used to manage Solaris networks, and we had
these patch-clusters which were rahter nice).

Thanks in advance

Guy

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Post about BSD's alleged demise on /.

2003-07-10 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hi

I saw this post on /. today, under the announcement about a FreeBSD 5.1
review.

Is there much truth is this?
How many FreeBSD servers are out there? And is there number declining?

I really hope that BSD will be arround for a long time to come...

Kind regards

Guy


http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=70502cid=6404771

It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when
recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1
percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft
survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this
news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing
in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last
[samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's
future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In
fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying.
Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware,
*BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of
blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of
its core developers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers. 

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How
many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus
NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there
are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about
half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users
of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD
market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users.
This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts. 

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD
went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another
troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet
another charnel house. 

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share.
*BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If
*BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD
continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this
point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead. 

Fact: *BSD is dead 


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