Re: FreeBSD routing problem
From: hrkesh sahu hrisikeshs...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:09:02 +0530 To: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com Cc: Polytropon free...@edvax.de, FreeBSD questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi, No idea why it was To: me. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I dislike MS windows quoted-printable, Content-Type: application/msword; name=1.5.VendorD.Topology.doc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=1.5.VendorD.Topology.doc MS excrement not accepted. http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/std/no_ms_format.txt Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: General questions regarding FreeBSD 10
Hi, Reference: From: Nikolas Britton nikolas.brit...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:47:08 -0500 Nikolas Britton wrote: General questions regarding FreeBSD 10: 1. Did virtualization containers (VPS) make it into FreeBSD 10? The documentation Ive read implies that you can have nested containers, with little to no performance penalty, is this correct? How is networking handled inside these containers? 2. I'm assuming jails still exist in FreeBSD (I havent used BSD in a long time), Then wait for the Release Announcement !!! Yuo'll read it when we do too. how do they relate, or fit in, with VPS and Bhyve offerings? Is Xen Dom0 or KVM available on FreeBSD? 3. Can Bhyve be used with processors that don't support Extended Page Tables? For example, Xeon 5400 series processors? 4. How well does FreeBSD 10 run as a VMware vsphere , KVM, and/or Xen guest? 5: For Jails, VPS, and Bhyve, what is the footprint (i.e. memory overhead) for each implementation? 6. How stable is FreeBSD's ZFS implementation, relative to Solaris? What zpool version is in FreeBSD 10? Is LZ4 the default compression mode? 7. Is Clang and the build system setup to automatically target cpu instruction set? i.e. cc -target-cpu corei7-avx? Any performance improvements of targeted binaries? 8. Has ports management gotten any better, specifically upgrading ports? Can applications be self contained, like on the Mac, yet? Any work on rollback with ZFS? 9. I recall device support being a large hurtle for me in the past. How far behind is driver development relative to Linux, for server equipment? Has there been any community interest in porting FreeBSD (world) to Linux (kernel)? 10. How is the Java ecosystem on FreeBSD? Is LLVM specific to applications? I make the assumption that the VM in LLVM is referring to something like a JVM, for code abstraction. I havent used FreeBSD in ages. Then you can afford to wait for the Release Announcement - like the rest of us - Or if you really wanted to know the answer to all these question, you wouldnt ask the questions@ list that was created for beginners quetions, you would go search the archives of the developer lists, subscribe some. No subscribing a list doesnt mean you have to run it, just that you keep yourself informed dont need to ask quaestions in advance of reality to the wrong list. However, VPS, with ZFS, has me really excited; I dont enjoy Solaris, and Enterprise Linux is still stuck in 2009, with kernel 2.6.32. I cant find any modern linux distributions that are as reliable as I remember FreeBSD was. Its really sad. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
Hi,
Good points in Brett Michael's posts, but for brevity not copied.
Best avoid having code written reviewed just in USA as it would get less
trust globaly, NSA is a known alien mega spy, USA even coerces non USA
citizens outside USA, eg
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/01/gary-mckinnon-extradition-nightmare
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard
Best encourage FreeBSD sources to be used suspiciously reviewed by a
variety of programmers mathematicians/ cryptologists from different
backgrounds countries;
Max chance of loophole reporting with more people from a spectrum
of countries with rival mutualy distrusting governments from such
as eg { Britain, China, France, Germany, Israel, North Korea,
Russia, Syria, USA } etc.
Presumably nearly all of us are cluless on crypto. math. so meantime
encourage involvement of citizens of at least a few different
dis-trusting countries.
Kernels perhaps have less reviewers than cross-OS S/W eg GPG
Open-SSH etc, so kernels might be target of choice of suborners ?
Maybe FreeBSD Foundation could set up a cheap bonus scheme for security
bugs exposed/ fixed - Special edition coffee mugs, non purchasable,
sent only as a reward, posted globaly free.
Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
Hi Greg questions@ etc That's massively out of date. Mike left Adelaide in 1998, and has been working for Apple in Cupertino for about 10 years. OK deleted. Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286 That's out of date too. I left Adelaide over 6 years ago. Up-to-date information at http://www.lemis.com/grog/ . OK Updated. Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-) I've cc'd them both Thanks. Danny did in fact contact me directly, and I think we've found somebody for him. Good :-) PS for other consultants: If you want to be added to geographic indexed table just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/ It would certainly be a good idea for more eyes to go through this list and help you get it up to date. Updates welcome, preferably in format diff -c Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unban my second address from the mailing list
David Demelier wrote: Hi, A long time ago, my domain malikania.fr has been banned because of lot bounces, now the server is working and running. I sometime send some PR directly from my server using this domain, thus I would like to be unbanned (the mail wasn't sent and postfix was saying that my domain is forbidden...). Can you unban my domain please? If I don't post to the good mailing-list, just le me know. No, it's not correct to mail the list for this. For list specific issues: Most lists on Internet use conventions of owner-LISTNAME@ or LISTNAME-owner@ (often admins alias one to the other so both work), so if you get a bounce, mail the other) http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions also lists: moderators at freebsd.org But in this case as it's a domain issue, mail postmas...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
Hi, Reference: From: Danny Beger da...@beger.com.au Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:30:57 +0930 Danny Beger wrote: I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd. Can you recommend anyone? Happily, http://www.berklix.com/consultants/table.html shows Mike Smith in Adelaide +61 8 8267 3493 Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286 Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-) I've cc'd them both PS for other consultants: If you want to be added to geographic indexed table just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/ Regards _ _ Danny Beger | Beger Co Lawyers p: 8362 6400 | f: 8362 3555 www.beger.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Diskless question
Hi, Reference: From: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:36:58 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I have a setup with a diskless machine and working, but I can not log in as root on the diskless. How to proceed? Log in as non root see what /var/log shows Mount the media elsewhere then either give a good look at what might be wrong, relax some restrictive permissions create some temporary back doors. rlogin, ssh, no or simple password on toor etc Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fresh installation 9.1
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:13:07 +0530, hrkesh sahu wrote: Hi All, after using freebsd for 10 to 20 mins, Key board is getting locked. Apart from Polytopon's good questions observations, such as Is that inside X? I'd also add 1 more question: Is that A) a PS2 [or older] direct keyboard ? eg on 8.1 dmesg: kbd1 at kbdmux0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 eg on 9.1 dmesg kbd: new array size 4 kbd1 at kbdmux0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0067 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d eg on 9.1 devinfo atkbdc0 atkbd0 Or B) a PS2 keyboard on a USB converter ? eg on 9.1 dmesg ugen1.2: Semi Tech at usbus1 ukbd0: HID Keyboard on usbus1 kbd2 at ukbd0 kbd2: ukbd0, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x3d eg on 9.1 devinfo uhci1 usbus1 uhub1 ukbd0 Just yesterday I had a case (B) lock up on me on 8.2-Release it needed a reboot (or power off unplug) to reset it. It might or not even be a FreeBSD problem has an easy hardware solution, Hrkesh Sahu you dont say how many keyboards you tried, or on how many if any other op systems, You know keyboards use wildly different amounts of mA ? Could be your's is greedy near the limit ? (ive had some PCs dont like some keyboards) was room was hotter than normal (I had 2/3 pieces of hardware dies in hot spell here lately) Might be software or harsdware, we dont know. Hrkesh Sahu all others asking free advice should realise: The more you tell readers on a self help list, the more we readers can deduce, but we can't, don't not interested to mind read ;-) The less people tell us, the less likley readers are to bother to guess or ask questions to deduce answers. We're not paid support, we require people to work to help us help them. eg telling us what interesting bits of dmesg might show, which kernel you ran, if modified or generic, what /var/log/messages shows etc (which you can see via ssh to host from another PC, or after reboot, so you dont need keyboard to see why keyboard has failed, no Catch 22 ;-) What extras you might have installed later ? eg on an 8.2 I installed in /boot/loader.conf vboxdrv_load=YES /etc/rc.conf vboxnet_enable=YES that laptop worked just fine from remote, again just yesterday I neededto use acual keyboard (in X) noted respons was abysmal, maybe 5 or 10 seconds to echo. Theres so much you havent told us, we really dont know what youve done that may have been the problem. Even a beginner should ask what commands should I do to produce more diagnostics to help you help me ? Those that don't try hard to help us don't tend to get so much help. Not a particular personal criticism, just really obvious ! Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. Facebook Insecurity: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23027643 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help to secure my FreeBSD/Apache installation
Hi, Reference: From: Andy Wodfer wod...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 23:11:27 +0200 Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi everybody! I'm running a server on FreeBSD 8.1 STABLE (apache 2.2.16, mysql 5.1.50, To quote front page of http://www.freebsd.org: * Production: 9.1 * Legacy: 8.4 My net. con. is too slow right now to check this for you, but look yourself, I bet FreeBSD-8.1 was long ago declared by security-officer@ as not supported as too old, php 5.3.3) and I server some websites from it, most of them using Joomla or Wordpress CMS. I recently had a security breach where someone used a hole in an older Joomla version and was able to install a php script called webadmin.php. From that the person was able to browse all folders and view all files - and change them... not nice! Apache runs using the www user (std installation) and all virtualhosts share the same user, but are placed in different directories. I need some help and pointers to what I can do to strengthen security and to atleast prevent someone from writing to the filesystem and browse all directories and files. (allthough joomla needs some folders to be chmod 777) I'm thinking about installing apache2-mpm-itk or similare to jail each site into its own directory and run each virtualhost as its own user. Is this a good idea? Thankful for answers and pointers! All the best - Andy Upgrade to 8.4 or 9.1, Reinstall new versions of all ports, cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portaudit ; make install ; rehash ; portaudit ; # (Which is in 9.1 not in 8.2) port-audit Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help to secure my FreeBSD/Apache installation
Hi, Reference: From: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 23:38:51 +0200 Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Andy Wodfer wod...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 23:11:27 +0200 Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi everybody! I'm running a server on FreeBSD 8.1 STABLE (apache 2.2.16, mysql 5.1.50, To quote front page of http://www.freebsd.org: * Production: 9.1 * Legacy: 8.4 My net. con. is too slow right now to check this for you, but look yourself, I bet FreeBSD-8.1 was long ago declared by security-officer@ as not supported as too old, Re version numbers: Your 8.1 STABLE does not exist ! Only 8 Stable, 8.1-RELEASE, 8.2-RELEASE, etc. http://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported.html 8.1 8.2 not supported. http://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html#sup 9.1-RELEASE has /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.23 Upgrade to 8.4 or 9.1, Reinstall new versions of all ports, cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portaudit ; make install ; rehash ; portaudit ; # (Which is in 9.1 not in 8.2) port-audit Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gvim GUI cannot be used
Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:51:08 +0200, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: El 05/07/2013 13:20, Jens Jahnke jan0...@gmx.net escribió: Hi, On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 12:56:32 +0200 CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: C Hey Raphael :-) Go to /usr/ports/editors/vim and make deinstall C reinstall it, that works for me, and it helps with dialogs in texmode C as well :-) for me this does not work. Unless I hack the Makefile and force it to enable gui mode it just isn't compiled in. Try a make rmconfig first and then make install. And make sure /etc/make.conf does not contain any offending settings that might suggest you do not have or want X11. (Half off topic, but I have too many X things on remote servers, so to reduce that in future I thought I 'd set the same things Raphael is being reccomended to Unset :-) I searched on 8.2-RELEASE just found /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk: 1 x .if defined(_USE_GHOSTSCRIPT) . if !defined(WITHOUT_X11) 1 x _USE_GHOSTSCRIPT_PKGNAME_SUFFIX=-nox11 Any others ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A very 'trivial' question about /root
Hi, Reference:
From: ASV a...@inhio.eu
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:10:02 +0200
[ I jhs@ reverted asv@'s top post to bottom post ]
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 01:47 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
Hi, Reference:
From: ASV a...@inhio.eu
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:39:20 +0200
ASV wrote:
Thanks for your reply Polytropon,
I'm using FreeBSD since few years already and I'm kind of aware of the
dynamics related to permissions, many of them are common to many
Unices.
I agree that the installer doesn't put anything secret but as a home dir
for the root user it's highly likely that something not intended to be
publicly readable will end up there soon after the installation.
Which IMHO it's true also for any other user homedir which gets created
by default using a pretty relaxed umask 022, but that seems to be the
default on probably any other UNIX like system I've put my hands on
AFAIR.
Don't get me wrong, since I use FreeBSD I'm just in love with it. Mine
is just a concern about these permission defaults which look to me a bit
too relaxed and cannot find yet a reason why not to restrict it.
After all I believe having good default settings may make the difference
in some circumstances and/or save time.
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 04:58 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:34:41 +0200, ASV wrote:
There's any reason (and should be a fairly good one) why the /root
directory permissions by default are set to 755 (for sure on releases
8.0/8.1/9.0/9.1)
This is the default permission for user directories, as root
is considered a user in this (special) case, and /root is its
home directory. The installer does not put anything secret
in there, but _you_ might, so there should be no issue changing
it to a more restricted access permission.
Hint: When a directory is r-x for other, then it will be
indexed by the locate periodic job, so users could use the
locate command (and also find) to look what's in there. If
this is not desired, change to rwx/---/---, or rwx/r-x/---
if you want to allow (trusted) users of the wheel group
to read and execute stuff from that directory (maybe homemade
admin scripts in /root/bin that should not be public).
There are few things that touch /root content. System updating
might be one of them, but as it is typically run as root (and
even in SUM), restrictive permissions above the default are
no problem.
To summarize the answer for your question: It's just the default. :-)
I'll play Devil's advocate for a moment ;-)
One reason not to tighten ~root is because one might want
~root/httpuserfile to be readable by httpd to access the crypted
passwords of locked web page. ... ;-)
No not really, that's perverted, I wouldn't reccomend an
http://localhost/~root/ regardless of password locked pages or not.
But it shows how lateral head scratching might be
appropriate before removing read perms on ~root/ .
{ A bit like wrong ownership on / can surprisingly kill AMD NFS
access } ... some unexpected constraints can take some thinking
through, It might be quickest for a number of us to just try chmod
700 ~root for a while see if we get trouble.
Cheers,
Julian
ASV wrote:
Hi Julian,
you played Devil's advocate well actually as I don't know which idea
would be more audacious, letting httpd access files from your root dir
or exporting /root via nfs. :)
Both of them sound more like a lab scenario than a real one.
I understand that launching a chmod 700 /root it's a matter of
something between 1 and 3 seconds. I do also understand that I had /root
closed for long time and never had the need to set permissions back
loose and this triggered my point.
Why is it that open? :)
Here is a patch:
http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/src/gen/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist.REL=ALL.diff
Before we might ask (via send-pr) for it to be commited,
we should various of us run
chmod 750 /root;chown root:wheel /root
give it a couple of months to see if problems.
I doubt there will be a problem with /root/.forward , as
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel /usr/sbin/sendmail - /usr/sbin/mailwrapper
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel /usr/sbin/mailwrapper
jb.1234a...@gmail.com 's ref to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578470
relates to Linux upgrade procedures /root
I don't see it affects how we should perceive an idealised Unix.
( I'd guess OpenBSD might go for a tighter /root though, as they're
supposedly keen on security. )
Daniel Feenberg wrote:
A diskless FreeBSD will use an NFS-mounted /root. See:
.^.
No, that spelling/ phrase is mis-leading, better to say an NFS-mounted
root, or an NFS-mounted /. /root under / is merely a
level one sub
Re: Booting FreeBSD 1.0
Warren Block wrote: Yes, 1.0, from November 1993. The install CD is here: http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/FreeBSD-1.0-RELEASE/ emulators/qemu boots from the floppy image in the cdinstal directory, but reports no cdrom found. I managed to find a Pentium 4 system with a working floppy drive, found a working disk, made the boot floppy, and then booted it. It boots and reports the same thing. Putting the CD drive on a separate IDE bus or as a secondary on the same bus as the hard drive makes no difference. Chipset too new, maybe. Any ideas short of find an original Pentium system that still works? I recall FreeBSD CDROM images have had 2 different types of boot sequences, I think it matched evolving generations of BIOS support. The change was some years back. Maybe qemu only supports the newer of the 2 CD boot methods. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting FreeBSD 1.0
Warren Block wrote: Decided to ignore the CD and just copy the files to a simulated MS-DOS drive. Got to the point of copying distributions, process documented here: http://wonkity.com/~wblock/freebsd-1.0/freebsd1.txt I had a quick scan BTW here's another URL for the same image: http://phk.freebsd.dk/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-1.0-RELEASE/ So far, it's giving me a new appreciation for modern installers. Julian, you are listed in the SUPPORT.TXT file. Congratulations! Thanks Warren, Scarey - Twenty years - Wow ! Illustrious company in that file: Rod G, Gary C.II, Jordan H. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A very 'trivial' question about /root
Hi, Reference:
From: ASV a...@inhio.eu
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:39:20 +0200
ASV wrote:
Thanks for your reply Polytropon,
I'm using FreeBSD since few years already and I'm kind of aware of the
dynamics related to permissions, many of them are common to many
Unices.
I agree that the installer doesn't put anything secret but as a home dir
for the root user it's highly likely that something not intended to be
publicly readable will end up there soon after the installation.
Which IMHO it's true also for any other user homedir which gets created
by default using a pretty relaxed umask 022, but that seems to be the
default on probably any other UNIX like system I've put my hands on
AFAIR.
Don't get me wrong, since I use FreeBSD I'm just in love with it. Mine
is just a concern about these permission defaults which look to me a bit
too relaxed and cannot find yet a reason why not to restrict it.
After all I believe having good default settings may make the difference
in some circumstances and/or save time.
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 04:58 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:34:41 +0200, ASV wrote:
There's any reason (and should be a fairly good one) why the /root
directory permissions by default are set to 755 (for sure on releases
8.0/8.1/9.0/9.1)
This is the default permission for user directories, as root
is considered a user in this (special) case, and /root is its
home directory. The installer does not put anything secret
in there, but _you_ might, so there should be no issue changing
it to a more restricted access permission.
Hint: When a directory is r-x for other, then it will be
indexed by the locate periodic job, so users could use the
locate command (and also find) to look what's in there. If
this is not desired, change to rwx/---/---, or rwx/r-x/---
if you want to allow (trusted) users of the wheel group
to read and execute stuff from that directory (maybe homemade
admin scripts in /root/bin that should not be public).
There are few things that touch /root content. System updating
might be one of them, but as it is typically run as root (and
even in SUM), restrictive permissions above the default are
no problem.
To summarize the answer for your question: It's just the default. :-)
I'll play Devil's advocate for a moment ;-)
One reason not to tighten ~root is because one might want
~root/httpuserfile to be readable by httpd to access the crypted
passwords of locked web page. ... ;-)
No not really, that's perverted, I wouldn't reccomend an
http://localhost/~root/ regardless of password locked pages or not.
But it shows how lateral head scratching might be
appropriate before removing read perms on ~root/ .
{ A bit like wrong ownership on / can surprisingly kill AMD NFS
access } ... some unexpected constraints can take some thinking
through, It might be quickest for a number of us to just try chmod
700 ~root for a while see if we get trouble.
Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Any BASIC Gurus around?
As you need max syntax checking from OCR, throw it at as many different basic interpreters/ compilers as you can, inspect where each bleats, some error messages may be more less usefull for different errors. A friend of mine wrote a basic decades back, its in /usr/ports/lang/pbasic/ PS to find mis-matched brackets, try my http://www.berklix,com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/brackets/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Avoid sharing interrupts in FreeBSD under ESXi
C. L. Martinez wrote: HI all, I have installed a FreeBSD 8.4 vm under an ESXi 5.1 U1 server. All works ok, except for interrupt usage between mpt and nic interfaces: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is for beginners questions for newbies, as this question is deeper, I suggest try asking on freebsd-virtualizat...@freebsd.org or one of the other lists Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any BASIC Gurus around?
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:47 -0700 Chris Maness wrote: Here is a link to the USNO article that the BASIC program originated from: USNO171s.pdf http://www.chrismaness.com/backend/USNO171s.pdf Thanks, Chris Maness As you need max syntax checking from OCR, throw it at as many different basic interpreters/ compilers as you can, inspect where each bleats, some error messages may be more less usefull for different errors. A friend of mine wrote a basic decades back, its in /usr/ports/lang/pbasic/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD10: lock order reversal with portsnap extract
Hi, Reference: From: Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 13:43:47 + (UTC) Walter Hurry wrote: I'm installing FreeBSD10 (head; snapshot from 30 May 2013) into a VM. One of the first things I do is a 'portsnap fetch extract'. As soon as the extract starts it produces a 'lock order reversal' message with a KDB stack backtrace, but then proceeds successfully to verify the integrity and install the ports tree. Should I worry? Yes, you should worry ;-) Worry you didn't realise: a) questions@ list was created originally for beginners b) the so called 10 is actually current for that you should subscribe @ ask on curr...@freebsd.org Best go review the descriptions of the 50 odd lists we have on @freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How can I unload/load modules that complied inside the kernel?
Hi, Reference: From: Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:54:59 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: [root@h-qa-033 ~]# uname -a FreeBSD h-qa-033 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May 28 11:26:45 IDT 2013 root@h-qa-033:/usr/obj/lab/odeds/freebsd/9.1.0/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 OFED and IB support are compiled in kernel. 1. How can I unload/load modules that complied inside the kernel? kldload and kldunload should be what you are looking for. [Unless things have got more flexible] I dont believe you can unload/load modules that complied inside the kernel. I think you need to compile a new kernel without the modules you want to toggle on off, Then you can use kldload and kldunload. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a copy of ASL dump for acer aspire laptops models
Hi, Reference: From: Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 14:21:04 +0200 Xavier wrote: Hi everyone, I need a copy of ACPI Source Language (ASL), '# acpidump-dt copy_model_laptop.asl' of any version of FreeBSD you have the option ACPI always enabled and does not give any problem on ACER laptops. Anyone can send me a copy of your ASL dump ( see above ) of ACER ASPIRE laptops model? Hi, I have an acer/aspire/5741 no problems I'm aware of, so will send you mine. uname -a FreeBSD lapr.js.berklix.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #3: Tue Apr 9 14:33:17 CEST 2013 j...@lapr.js.berklix.net:/sys/amd64/compile/LAPR.small amd64 I'm not sure what you mean at you have the option ACPI always enabled and does not give any problem however, sysctl -a | grep -i acpi does show device acpi 136 lines in total, acpidump -dt produces 15,840 lines, so I'll not append to list but private mail you. Anything else you need ? What's wrong ? What you are you chasing ? PS mob...@freebsd.org or a...@freesbd.org would be better best lists for this, not questions@. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-acpi http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile so I added cc: freebsd-a...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a copy of ASL dump for acer aspire laptops models
Hi Xavier cc questions@ acpi@ I wrote: acpidump -dt produces 15,840 lines, so I'll not append to list but private mail you. I put it here so others on acpi@ questions@ can look too if they want. http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/acer/aspire/5741/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: List Spam Filtering
Bruce Cran wrote: On 11/05/2013 02:34, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Good question. I don't know why. I wish all were, it would keep spam out. There have been some discussions about this in the past. freebsd-questions doesn't require subscribing to avoid people who may be unfamiliar with mailing lists being put off posting to it. That burdens FreeBSD lists with clueless, lazy non subscribers, spammers. Web forums exist for those too lame to subscribe forums can have Captcha. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compatibility SCO (fwd)
Hi, cc questions@ was dropped so restoring Forwarded from: Julian Stacey j...@berklix.com http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/ --- Forwarded Message From gri...@goldnet.it Sun May 12 09:15:13 2013 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 09:12:53 +0200 From: grillo gri...@goldnet.it To: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com Subject: Re: compatibility SCO In-Reply-To: 201305112344.r4bnimxd072...@fire.js.berklix.net References: 201305112344.r4bnimxd072...@fire.js.berklix.net On Sun, 12 May 2013 01:44:22 +0200, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: grillo wrote: I need use Microsoft Cobol Compiler and runtime developed for Xenix/Unix system V SCO using NETBSD or FreeBSD, it is possible? have binary compatibility ? environment compatibility ? thank you A long time since I looked at this, but as no one else answered yet, hints to look for, maybe somebody'll correct it post more useful info ;-) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html kernel options options IBCS2 /* SCO a.out emulation */ options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory /*for X11R6 */ options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores I recall when I last did cross OS work way back I needed a raft of include files libs custom or special version of ar etc. Which brings up questions of Copyright, depending what you'r doing (I'm not asking, your business decision, I don't want to know about SCO !). The newer way might be to run SCO inside a virtual environment http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/virtualization-host.html BTW If you're doomed to run SCO, get hold of a SCO Skunkware CD, issued by SCO, free) full of FSF PD etc tools to make raw SCO less annoying. You should search this archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation probably susbscribe ask there. IMO you'll probably have better luck with FreeBSD than NetBSD for this, (not will certainly, just probably at my guess, for this topic ;-) Cheers, Julian Thank-you I wish to use the compiler Microfocus cobol/2 writen for Unix compatible with Sco Xenix and Sco OpenServer, it generate a intermediate code that run win RUNTIME COBOL, the problem is where must be install the cobol library for compilation and runtime environment, and what terminfo to use; if I use a virtual environment I work like now with no possibility to extra periferal and external drive --- End of Forwarded Message ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: List Spam Filtering
Hi, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 02:26:26 +0200 Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: If list write access was changed to Subscribers Only: - List could silently discard such spam. - Postmaster@ ( webmaster@ weeding web archives) would have less work. - Less individual need to select spam phrases to copy to personal filters ( less time searching WTF dialect American above meant in English ;-). The downside is that it would require people to subscribe in order to ask a question, True. I suggest the up side outweighs the down side though. I've always felt when I as a newbie somewhere, wanted to post any other project's mail list to ask a question get free help, then I owed it to those there to subscribe if necessary. However, FreeBSD could always provide a web Captcha anti spam validater for those too lazy/ uncommited to subscribe questions@ ? this is also the reason for the convention of using Reply to all in FreeBSD mailing lists. It's been a convention for a *long* time, at least since FreeBSD 1.1 was shiny and new in 1993. I'm not intending to question or suggest any change re CC behaviour. (Maybe you mis-read or mis-infered what I intended, or maybe I mis-wrote, or mis-implied, whatever, please forget that bit, though as background I'd observe: Questions@ didn't exist for quite a while after FreeBSD started, Hackers@ some others preceded it. Various people prune CC when they get littered with too many CC. ) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: List Spam Filtering
I'm curious how much spam you get through this list. Just counted, and I have about 2 Spams per week for the last month, that's more than usual. Personaly I'm on ~ 47 freebsd lists or so my MH dirs + procmail filter boxes suggest, so when someone spams multiple lists with the same spam it irritates. I'm on various other lists too, (last I counted it was about 100 in all inc. freebsd) so grateful for each list that is subscribers only. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compatibility SCO
grillo wrote: I need use Microsoft Cobol Compiler and runtime developed for Xenix/Unix system V SCO using NETBSD or FreeBSD, it is possible? have binary compatibility ? environment compatibility ? thank you A long time since I looked at this, but as no one else answered yet, hints to look for, maybe somebody'll correct it post more useful info ;-) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html kernel options options IBCS2 /* SCO a.out emulation */ options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory /*for X11R6 */ options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores I recall when I last did cross OS work way back I needed a raft of include files libs custom or special version of ar etc. Which brings up questions of Copyright, depending what you'r doing (I'm not asking, your business decision, I don't want to know about SCO !). The newer way might be to run SCO inside a virtual environment http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/virtualization-host.html BTW If you're doomed to run SCO, get hold of a SCO Skunkware CD, issued by SCO, free) full of FSF PD etc tools to make raw SCO less annoying. You should search this archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation probably susbscribe ask there. IMO you'll probably have better luck with FreeBSD than NetBSD for this, (not will certainly, just probably at my guess, for this topic ;-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WANTED: Tool to verify installed package/port consistancy
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
The subject line pretty much says it all.
Additional to other ideas so far,
You could also make a chroot, install normal bins from src,
install all your ports, ^D to exit chroot, then do a compare strip with eg:
cd chroot ;
find . -type f -exec cmpd -d {} / \;
# compare delete http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/cmpd/
find . -type l | xargs rm
find . -type d -depth -exec rmdir {} \;
find . -type f -print | sort | more
then consider what got trashed, where, maybe why,
then reinstall from ports, or crudely
cd /chroot/var/db/pkg ; tar cf - */+CONTENTS| (cd /var/db/pkg tar xf -)
PS I find /usr/ports/textproc/mgdiff nice for a visual diff of 2 files.
( if theres lots of small changes in a file )
Cheers,
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Re: making photoalbums for web pages
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Friday, May 10, 2013 a las 10:25:06AM +0200, Matthias Fechner escribió: Am 10.05.2013 09:41, schrieb Matthias Apitz: clicking them) and the application puts them together, with thumbnails, to a tree which just goes per SCP -rp to our webserver; the rest could be done with webgallery (by me or scripts); she is not an informatican; Hi Matthias A all, I've always used /usr/ports/graphics/cthumb (not saying better or worse or more or less appropriate than other tools mentioned most of which I don't know, just one more tool you may want to look at. I use cthumb ( vi) as shown at ^cthumb line of http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/syntax Then upload with rdist6 -P /usr/bin/ssh http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/Distfile Graphic result: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bauma/2013_04_18/ Preamble to those pics: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bauma/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: making photoalbums for web pages
Apologies my last post was multipart/mixed, (maybe my mouse skidded to some un-intended option). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: List Spam Filtering
Hi, From: Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 08:33:47 +0700 Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Thu, 09 May 2013 02:26:26 +0200 Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: If list write access was changed to Subscribers Only: some lists are like this anyway. Why are not all like this? Good question. I don't know why. I wish all were, it would keep spam out. To allow a free-er environment for us than that might first give: Taking the syntax of majordomo as an example to illustrate an idea in (I know Freebsd.org moved on to Mailman, but I'm assuming/ hoping Mailman is at least equally as flexible as Majordomo; as I'm an administrator for Majordomo lists, have tried the idea below seen it work, I can quote syntax for it correctly) Given a list eg scsi@freebsd might exist that happended to go from open to restrict_post = scsi ie write only for subscribers, it could easily be made eg restrict_post = scsi questions hackers So others in eg questions who had occasional scsi specific questions could be referred to post there without person needing to subscribe to scsi@ as a regular ( agreed, just hope all respondents CC the OP, if OP is too lazy/ busy to subscribe eg scsi@). Most list config files could do that, so it would be equally possible for eg someone subscribed to hardware@ to answer a question posted to questions@, even if the answering hardware@ person was not personaly subscribed to reading every post to questions@. questions@ could have a questions.config with something like: restrict_post = questions hackers current ports scsi etc Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
List Spam Filtering
Hi questions@ ( spammer not cc'd ) Reference: From: Aaron Seligman aselig...@altitudedigitalpartners.com Reply-to: aselig...@altitudedigitalpartners.com Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 18:59:07 + (UTC) Subject: Re: Display Video Campaigns-Inventory Needed Message-id: 1368039547.0568389241738...@mf7.sendgrid.net Happy hump-day, We have an opportunity with an RTB partner to monetize INT Geo's; UK, CAN, AUS Video: (Pre-roll, mid-roll and post-roll) If list write access was changed to Subscribers Only: - List could silently discard such spam. - Postmaster@ ( webmaster@ weeding web archives) would have less work. - Less individual need to select spam phrases to copy to personal filters ( less time searching WTF dialect American above meant in English ;-). Newbies would be told subscribe before posting in all of: /etc/motd http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Automatic list bounce response. Only clueless, lazy, spammers might be lost. A net gain. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ls(1), rm(1) - No such file or directory even though they are there.
Reference: From: Michael Bird michael_b...@yahoo.com Reply-to: Michael Bird michael_b...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 10:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Michael Bird wrote: Hi List, There is a rather curious problem that I have, which I haven't encountered before. I make regular backups of my packages and put them onto an external usb drive, which is mounted read/write via sysutils/fusefs-ntfs. Now these backups don't exist no more and at the same time they are there. That is to say, upon issuing ls and/or rm on the command line I get rather strange results. Here are some of my outputs: mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % ls [a long list that has been cut out] zip-3.0.tbz mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % ls zip-3.0.tbz ls: zip-3.0.tbz: No such file or directory Some have files that (don't) exist have i-nodes and some haven't: mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % ls -i zip-3.0.tbz ls: zip-3.0.tbz: No such file or directory mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % ls -i linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2.tbz 2469 linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2.tbz Running rm on the folder I get No such file or directory for every single entry: mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % rm * [a long list that has been cut out] rm: linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2.tbz: No such file or directory Yet again some of the files can be test via gzip and some can't: mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % gzip -t linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2.tbz mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % echo $? 0 mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % gzip -t zip-3.0.tbz gzip: can't stat: zip-3.0.tbz: No such file or directory mike@machine1:/mnt/Programs/FreeBSD/91binaries/packages % Looks like the this part of the file system is corrupt. I also booted the drive up under Windows and got the same result. The files are there, but can't be read, overwritten or deleted. What does the list say about the above mentioned? A better list to ask on: freebsd...@freebsd.org I dont know if NTFS even has I nodes, or what one might expect ls -i to sensibly return for that. Obviously your FS is broken if both FreeBSD MS are complaining, so fix it ! Either let MS fix it, or fuse-ntfs if there's a checker (cant remember) Or failing that remove files, remake the FS. I've seen other problems with both methods of accessing NTFS, only reason I use NTFS is when I Have to. Making backups I'd never call a have to use NTFS reason, so I never would for that, I'd use UFS/FFS FS ! Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages
Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which
base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow
procmailrc to do its work?
Good question, I havent tried that yet, (but should),
but I have been demiming both to help majordomo on servers, via procmail
on local (to reduce bulk on my future archives of personal mail).
2 tools worth knowing in /usr/ports/mail/ : demime emil
A few notes from my
http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/ports/jhs/mail/Makefile.local
(where I've also more notes on eg much hated quoted-printable )
SUBDIR += emil
# A candidate to be assesed for stripping quoted-printable from
# majordomo on server, to help cluless people.
# Something needed to replace demime as demime has been removed.
# SUBDIR += mime4j
# It won't do any decoding of base64 or quoted-printable
#encoded header fields and bodies.
SUBDIR += demime
# For majordomo on list servers,
# For all the many lazy incompetents who cant turn off sending
# HTML to mail lists, despite having had a decade to learn.
# ( for a few people who do understand they should, have tried to, but
# can''t find where to turn off their HTML, if their ISP even allows.
# Missing in FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE so see also SUBDIR += mail/emil
Is there anything which will take a raw email message
and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal
text?
See man emil ; man demime
PS Trying to get procmail to work with a macro with a pipe defined
after + $RCVSTOREUNSEEN, was a long pain I failed so I use a
longer version below which works, appended for syntax example.
RCVSTORE=/usr/local/libexec/nmh/rcvstore
RCVSTOREUNSEEN=$RCVSTORE -nounseen
# A 2nd copy, just text, stripped of MIME enclosures is
# stored in $PRI_MAIL by $RCVSTOREUNSEEN
# The 2nd copy is stored with $RCVSTORE -nounseen so I dont have to
# click the archive copy from within exmh.
NOMIME=/usr/local/bin/demime -8 -
# Demime is not in current after 9.1-RELEASE
# To not demime instead use NOMIME=cat
# NOMIME=cat
# NOMIME=/usr/local/bin/emil
# Emil converts a .jpg MIME to a uuencoded appended without MIME
# I can not seem to achieve something like this:
# XYZ=$NOMIME | $RCVSTOREUNSEEN
{
:0 cw
| $NOMIME | $RCVSTOREUNSEEN +$PRI_MAIL/my/archive
:0 wc
| $RCVSTORE +$INBOX_PLAIN
}
Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Problem creating user account
Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: Den 23.04.2013 13:17, skrev AMS_MDF_operations: LS, What is going ewrong? Problem : Creating user account -bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 r...@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 -bash-2.05b$ This version of FreeBSD is 9 years old and long EOL'ed. Have you ever considered upgrading this machine? Wow ! Actually I too still run some 4 (for reasons I won't distract this thread with) as well as other hosts on 9.1-RELEASE etc, but if ams_mdf_operati...@tele2.com needs to stay on 4, he/she should at least consider upgrading to 4.11-RELEASE for various bug fixes while staying on same feature set. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem creating user account
Outback Dingo wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: Den 23.04.2013 13:17, skrev AMS_MDF_operations: LS, What is going ewrong? Problem : Creating user account -bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 r...@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 -bash-2.05b$ This version of FreeBSD is 9 years old and long EOL'ed. Have you ever considered upgrading this machine? Wow ! Actually I too still run some 4 (for reasons I won't distract this thread with) as well as other hosts on 9.1-RELEASE etc, but if ams_mdf_operati...@tele2.com needs to stay on 4, he/she should at least consider upgrading to 4.11-RELEASE for various bug fixes while staying on same feature set. looking at the hostname, it simply appears to be a syslog server, so why upgrade it, if it aint broke dont fix it 4.X was rock solid stable and fast Yes, 4 was light on resources too, no bloated gcc make worlds thrashing on *insn*.c back then. But I still long ago upgraded all my 4.x to 4.11, just as I similarly raised sundry 6.* hosts to last minor number of 6.4. Raising to last minor numbers is generaly easy, reduces local version diversity, gets free bug fixes without the cost of problems from new features/ changes in new major numbers. Increases the chances someone out there is running the same major.minor combo, even if EOL'd. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi BSD -
Since A.W.O.L bill is against that sort of thing I wonder why Lord Jesus is not working with all his might to do so. Is this emailing tongues? Rod Don't feed troll quiet.rainbows@gmail.com Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Grepping though a disk
Hi Polytropon cc questions@ Any suggestion is welcome! Ideas: A themed list: freebsd...@freebsd.org There's a bunch of fs tools in /usr/ports/sysutils/ My http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/slice/ slices large images such as tapes disks (also the slice names would give numbers convertable to offsets probaably useful to eg ..a) man fsdb A bit of custom C should run a lot faster than shells greps, eg when I was looking for nasty files from a bad scsi controller, I wrote http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/8f/ One could run eg slice asynchronously suspend ^Z when you run out of space, periodicaly run some custom C (like 8f.c) or some find grep -v rm loop to discard most slices as of no interest. Then resume slicing. OK, thats doing writes too, so slower than just read a later dd with seek=whatever, depends how conservative one's feeling, about doing reruns with other search criteria. You mentioned risk of text string chopped across a slice/block boundary. Certainly a risk. Presumably solution is to search twice. 2nd time after a dd with a half block/ slice size offset, then slice/search again. If you runout of space to do that, you might write a temporary disklabel/bsdlabel with an extra partition with a half block offset .. dodgy stuff that, do it while you'r wide awake :-) Always a pain these scenarios, loosing hours of human CPU time, I hope data's worth it, good luck. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rm -R
Hi, Reference: From: Jos Chrispijn ker...@webrz.net Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:44:22 +0100 Message-id: 51323a76.2040...@webrz.net Jos Chrispijn wrote: Teske, Devin: rm -R -- -S The -- tells it here's the end of the options, here come the file/directories Almost: rm -R -- -S; did it, thanks very much for you help! This also works rmdir ./-S ( is probably the best generic naming method, was valid decades ago, before rm got the luxury of modern stuff eg -- would work for other commands that might not have delimieters such as -- ) This also work but is over kill : rmdir './-S' Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildowrld fails in sendmail
Hi, Reference: From: Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:46:17 -0500 Message-id: 20785.8617.401737.814...@jerusalem.litteratus.org Robert Huff wrote: On a system running: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64 make buildworld fails with this: cc -O -pipe -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/ -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sysexits.c cc -O -pipe -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/ -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/timers.c cc -O -pipe -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/ -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/tls.c cc -O -pipe -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/ -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/trace.c cc -O -pipe -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/ -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/udb.c cc -O -pipe -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/include -I. -DNEWDB -DNIS -DTCPWRAPPERS -DMAP_REGEX -DDNSMAP -DNETINET6 -DSTARTTLS -D_FFR_TLS_1 -I/usr/local/include/ -DSASL=2 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/usersmtp.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/usersmtp.c:1797:50: error: incompatible pointer types passing 'void ()' to parameter of type 'void (*)(char *, bool, MAILER *, struct mailer_con_info *, ENVELOPE *)' [-Werror,-Wincompatible-pointer-types] smtpresult = reply(m, mci, e, TimeOuts.to_auth, getsasldata, NULL, ^~~ /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/src/sendmail.h:2519:67: note: passing argument to parameter here extern int reply __P((MAILER *, MCI *, ENVELOPE *, time_t, void (*)__P((char *, bool, MAILER *, MCI *, ENVELOPE *)), char **, int)); ^ /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h:136:21: note:
Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs
From: Anonymous anonym...@foto.ro1.torservers.net On topic... More off remit noise (**) Questions@ is for questions, Not an opinion dump. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html http://wiki.freebsd.org/Releng/9.1TODO (** wiki web could benefit from greater synch., But www wiki doc teams will have better understanding of issues, Anonymous@ should have raised that issue on their lists, not here.) - Different dates listed for the same events. A point, But now's a bad time for this anonymous@ to again try to stir a premature `drains up' while the release is finalising. Release engineers others will presumably later discuss release scheduling etc, after they've got the release out, taken a well deserved rest; Till then best refute critics that could demotivate unpaid hard working release builders. I've used FreeBSD fulltime since at at least 10 years If true, failed to learn http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo has different lists for different topics, in this case doc@ www etc. failed to learn best to send-pr a patch with eg SGML for www wiki. This anonymous@ troll could be blocked. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help! Firefox + acroread costs me $$$$
Hi, Reference: From: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:10:16 -0700 (MST) Message-id: alpine.bsf.2.00.1212112008090.8...@wonkity.com Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: So, on FreeBSD, how does one get firefox and/or opera to use, for example, evince or some other PDF displayer instead of using this goddamn lousey buggy *^%$#@ acroread ? Remove acroread entirely. Install graphics/xpdf. Click on a PDF link, tell Firefox to use xpdf and do that for all files of this type. Be aware xpdf will not do quite all PDF files that (horribly slow) acroread can (ie new PDFs with data entry forms xml). I use xpdf all I can for normal reading of PDF tech specs etc, use acroread just for filling in UK corporation tax return PDFs, though freebsd has other solutions that may work for those pdf/xml too. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs
anonym...@foto.nl1.torservers.net wrote: We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project Troll Detected ? - List remit requires a question. Poster gave no question, just criticised. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions - There are better addresses than questions@ to contact influence more FreeBSD volunteer workers decision makers. - questions@ iswrong address for disparate people responsible for seperate issues eg release schedules, wikis, etc. Aggregating noise here is Bad. - Anonymous criticism discourages consideration of points which might benefit FreeBSD if raised for consideration [later], to other addresses, Not posted anonymously. postmas...@freebsd.org can be requested to block addresses. For random chat: freebsd-c...@freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat Other lists http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo If waiting for 9.1-RELEASE, src/ available last week compiles runs. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-December/071044.html Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CTM status
Hi, Fbsd8 wrote: With cvs having support ending next year and svn becoming the main work horse, Just what is the status of CTM? I would think its more out dated than cvs. You havent grasped what CTM is: A method of distributing trees man ctm:source code mirror program The trees of sources comprise collections of cvs, svn, src*, ports. See ctm* lists listed here: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Users list ctm-us...@freebsd.org is referenced here http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html Read recent announcements in archive of ctm-annou...@freebsd.org Summary: CVS by CTM will stop, 1 of 2 SVN by CTM will stop. CTM will continue. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Testing for false email freebsd.org
Hi, Reference: From: Al Plant n...@hdk5.net Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:17:17 -1000 Message-id: 5094547d.5030...@hdk5.net To: freebsd-t...@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions questi...@freebsd.org Al Plant wrote: Test Read list mandates. Cross posting is deprecated Send test mail only to t...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What replaces csup?
Hi, Reference: From: Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com Reply-to: Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:45:23 -0500 Message-id: D97788AE24B7FFB0C79AA6FB@localhost Paul Schmehl wrote: Now that we're switching to svn, is there a utility analogous to csup for fetching source? Is that utility available for 8.3? (I'm assuming subversion will become part of base in 9.x.) No. Reporting what I read today in a...@freebsd.org : Subject: Re: Fallout from the CVS discussion ... Summary: some say subversion is changing too fast, they'll leave in ports. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS Install
Hi Gardner Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:47 -0400, Gardner Bell wrote: What I'm wanting to do is build/installworld from my workstation to a remote machine but both have different /etc/src.conf and kernel configuration files. Is there a way to define seperate files so I can perform this upgrade without any errors? I fairly often do make installs over amd+nfs, a few gotchas to avoid getting caught on: - I saw my link count break in /rescue so du exploded (up by presumably about (137-1 x 4.7M ) (Cant remember why, I just fixed it) - Chflags bit me (maybe I didnt have the right stuff in /etc/exports on target. (I hate chflags. often run chflags -R noschg / ) - If both might be i386, target might 686 eg 586 etc avoid source host having any files lurking in /usr/obj that were built while /etc/make.conf ( included files) had a CFLAGS += -march=i686 Maybe practice on a local host first, where you can reach reset knob. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ftp2.ca.freebsd.org out of date?
Hi, Reference: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin pldro...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:13:27 -0400 Message-id: cant0rcsx6ndmf4zgd8g8ldnzwa+mg3rfofjcan_qjpze-ar...@mail.gmail.com Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, it seems that the ftp2.ca.freebsd.org mirror has not been updating since August 3rd. At least this is the case for the files in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-9 To find who is ftp master for that domain, try contacting probably in this order eg f...@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org ftp-b...@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org ftpmas...@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org (*) r...@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org hostmas...@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org f...@ca.freebsd.org ftp-b...@ca.freebsd.org ftpmas...@ca.freebsd.org(*) r...@ca.freebsd.org hostmas...@ca.freebsd.org See also (from 8.3-release/src/etc/mail/aliases ) RFC 2142, `MAILBOX NAMES FOR COMMON SERVICES, ROLES AND FUNCTIONS', May 1997 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2142 (*) ftpmaster@ is not normal, far as I know, but I added it to my domains to be analagous to webmaster@ so maybe others do similar) Alternately probably less usefuly there is a list for discussions, (not error reports such as this) for all global FreeBSD mirror admins You can find it via mailman, but that will get you lots of other admins who aren't responsible for the server you want to report, In case your admin is on holiday, or otherwise absent, try top @ addresses first, cos if that admin. is on hol, their stand in colleague may be getting a copy of their host error mails, but not a copy of freebsd subscription mails. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patch into kernel sources
Venkat Duvvuru wrote: Does this procedure hold good for a device driver module's patch as well? Yes On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Venkat Duvvuru wrote: Hi, Could somebody please point me to a procedure to apply a patch to the sources? I have a driver patch that I would like to commit. If you want to send from local mail client man send-pr If you want to send via web http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html (pointed to from Report a Bug on front page) http://www.freebsd.org/ (yup, easily missed on front page with new eyes, as Not a bug)) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. --e89a8fb1ef564d94e904c91ab01a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable span style=3Dcolor:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:1= 3px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)Does this procedure hold good for a = device driver module#39;s patch as well?/span=A0brbrdiv class=3Dgm= ail_quote On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Julian H. Stacey span dir=3Dltrlt;a h= ref=3Dmailto:j...@berklix.com; target=3D_blankj...@berklix.com/agt;/s= pan wrote:brblockquote class=3Dgmail_quote style=3Dmargin:0 0 0 .8ex= ;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex div class=3DHOEnZbdiv class=3Dh5Venkat Duvvuru wrote:br gt; Hi,br gt; Could somebody please point me to a procedure to apply a patch to the= br gt; sources?br gt; I have a driver patch that I would like to commit.br br /div/divIf you want to send from local mail clientbr =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 man send-prbr br If you want to send via webbr =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 a href=3Dhttp://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html; = target=3D_blankhttp://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html/abr (pointed to from quot;Report a Bugquot; on front page)br =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 a href=3Dhttp://www.freebsd.org/; target=3D_blankhttp:= //www.freebsd.org//abr (yup, easily missed on front page with new eyes, as Not a bug))br br Cheers,br Julianbr span class=3DHOEnZbfont color=3D#88--br Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich a href=3Dhttp:= //berklix.com target=3D_blankhttp://berklix.com/abr =A0Reply below not above, like a play script. =A0Indent old text with quot= ;gt; quot;.br =A0Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printa= ble.br /font/span/blockquote/divbr --e89a8fb1ef564d94e904c91ab01a-- Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patch into kernel sources
Venkat Duvvuru wrote: Hi, Could somebody please point me to a procedure to apply a patch to the sources? I have a driver patch that I would like to commit. If you want to send from local mail client man send-pr If you want to send via web http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html (pointed to from Report a Bug on front page) http://www.freebsd.org/ (yup, easily missed on front page with new eyes, as Not a bug)) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tangental And OT: Commercial Support For 'sudo'
Hi, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Please forgive the OTishness of this, but I'm hoping some of my fellows in the large data center space may have a hint or two here ... I am working with a firm that needs to run sudo in a variety of OS environments. A few of these - noteably IBM AIX - do not provide vendor support and legal indemnification of many open source packages, sudo among them. This is official a Big Deal (tm) for this company. So ... does anyone know of a commercial concern that provide sudo support and legal indemnification? GratiSoft - the keeper of sudo - were apparently going to do this at one point but decided not to. It wouldn't surprise me if no firm offered useful legal indemnification with contract terms the lawyer of your firm would consider acceptable. Why suppliers might not like to offer cover: How long is a piece of string ? Define what doors the string connects, contracturaly definie routes limits values of potential consequential damage to data service 3rd parties. How much would lawyers insurance brokers/suppliers push up the price for defining cover ? Reduced motivation to purchase cover anyway in realisation its a grey area, eminently disputable, come a big claim on insurer, he'd be looking for loopholes, so insuree (your firm) could end up sueing insurer. Yet more lawyers insurance fees; a profitable interesting relatively safe software supply business is different from the insurance business. Some managers are clueless, first demand the impossible, don't get it, then compromise without, do business without: One customer demanded as standard, my welding certificate insurance over a million Euros, I refused, offered I would stand on street pass a floppy disk through their fence. It escalated to someone responsible, they abandoned their conditions purchased. Several customers wanted me/my company to accept unlimited risk in event of copyright law suit (possible to research that risk, though still dangerous as even defending frivolous law suits can cost) and to cover risk of software patent litigation (impossible to know risks that lurk, no way!). Iv'e always refused, but offered to help explore contacts in insurance business if customer Really wants to purchase own insurance. After Thinking, they've Always backed down, decided that's Their business operating risk they should shoulder not try to pass to others, as no one else is stupid enough to accept undefinable risk, except possibly at very heavy extra cost debatable usefulness. Even if a firm categorically demands insurance, - does not mean they will get it, - indicates some manager is clueless, foolish or deluded/ aggressive, - shows the firm is a business risk, as it doesn't understand associated business issues. Every cloud has a silver lining. An indemnity contract (if any found) will have legal terms that purchasers lawyer will need to consult a computer professional about. The purchasing firm will end up paying 2 professionals to define its risk, probably decide to skip it, carry it's own risk. PS Another discussion forum to ask on: SAGE, System Administrators Guild Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: start kernel
Hi, Reference: From: blank blank gangl...@asia.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:11:35 -0400 Message-id: 20120821061135.210...@gmx.com blank blank wrote: i am beginning to question how computers work. i am using darwin 10.0.0. is there a place or way that i can get a thoroughly commented kernel of this version of unix so that i can learn from it and ask inteligent questions. i think this would be a good place to start from. FreeBSD ( other BSDs Linuxes all) offer full sources on web ftp sites. See http://www.freebsd.org download. There's various books. Books are inevitably behind (older than) the latest sources. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.
If you have a system you want to try you can also check out http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html. That is a great resource for laptops, too bad it isn't mentioned in the Handbook compatibility chapter. Suggestion: send-pr Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Listing in http://www.ro.freebsd.org/gallery/pgallery.html
Hi, Reference: From: Michael Bedin michael.be...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:16:56 +0400 Message-id: cagjtwazatmv3ssqhcg8ymewfkdhdes1_48dhvy0jqcrfo7u...@mail.gmail.com Michael Bedin wrote: Hello, I would like to ask you to remove link to 'niga.ru' web site from the listing (in the subject). Now this domain does not belong me. This list is wrong address, I most others on this list cant do that for you. To get it done, you need to us either: command send-pr or use bug report interface http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html clickable from http://www.freebsd.org so it gets noted permanently, so the right people see your request act on it . Specify category as www. Thank you. -- With best regards, Mikhail U. Bedin Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
This is the reason software patents comprise such a blight on the world of software development. Yes, agreed, not just software. The european patent office system pressures examiners towards granting if they can't quickly find prove the application is already known. http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/txt/patents/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail to be dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
Hi Robert, cc questions@ cc postmaster@ (***) What I am is an information systems professional with 45 years experience. Interesting reading that your prior post. 'Edge of the track, turn up the op. amps' has been an interesting technique for decades, I first read of it maybe 70's or 80's ? I bet some, eg in government or private espionage, desperate incompetent bankers, their employed service firms, probably had fun seeing what was possible. (Envy ;-) BTW I too wrote a recoverer way back, just for floppies http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/valid/ Worked very well, recovered data while wearing media out. I ported it to FreeBSD, but it was never as good there, I never hacked BSD drivers to support it to do bit averaging if all CRCs failed. (***) Re.: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl People could ask postmas...@freebsd.org (cc'd) to block troll Wojciech Puchar. His blinkered noise pollutes too often, while too many have failed to reason with him, on too many subjects on questions@ hackers@. I someone on hackers@ already filter out his noise. http://berklix.com/~jhs/dots/.procmailrc.lists Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo Hotmail dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Carsten Mattner wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvpb08w4bjgucjb1ghvf-jgpzs0869qvxfryrtxef91...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? I don't know. I wrote how I obtained the data patern I saw, in my: Fair enough :). Message-id: 201207050936.q659awci016...@fire.js.berklix.net Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:36:32 +0200 Others very welcome to try it. Of course. Julian? Which Firefox version? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 I don't want to be that guy whos says it but that version is old and may contain widely known holes. Good point. ( Till now I I just built ports in current when odd ports from RELEASE broke, That's too simplistic, Thanks.) I am a little concerned. Me too ! Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. You don't have to export it at all. Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same file in /etc or ~/.ssh? If that's really the case, it's a problem. No I happily can not confirm that, despite a quick-ish look. ( I wouldn't particularly xpect it, if a trojan took control, it would be pretty easy to store data [hidden or scrambled] in different format.) The string I saw was in file jquery.js: /^(?:color|date|datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|text|time|url|week)$/i,bJ=/^(?:about|app|app\-storage Some machines have more valuable data in user files, than /etc/ passwords. If 'only' /etc/*passwd got harvested, but data beyond did not yet get harvested, waiting for a 2nd pass with trojan, damage would be less. I suggest others create a dummy guest account then accesss URL do page save as I wrote. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:41:27 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvoojrfi642bzd8ijoscgn1edv2m7w2+hm9v8i+a7ct...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Carsten Mattner wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. Thats what shows with lynx Firefox shows some boring page beginnning - The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries grouped by project. No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with corrections/additions. Note also this list of Google's open source projects. Python Guido Van Rossum Python creator Alex Martelli Python Cookbook, ... Brett Cannon Python Jeremy Hylton Zope I'll skip the rest, Yawn. Firefox also runs some script. Doing a page save tar cf ends with a tar image containing datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te Where did you find that? I clicked File save page presumably I left it at default Complete page Then I tarred up file directory then I inspected with vi. Since when can Firefox read random files from disk via Javascript? I don't know. I've just always had a reflex suspicion of bowsers that can run scripts. On my infinitely long mental list of things to look into some time ;-) I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail to it can't harvest ? I did suspect this is some kind of bot spam. Yup, the original question seemed too clueless. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvpb08w4bjgucjb1ghvf-jgpzs0869qvxfryrtxef91...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? I don't know. I wrote how I obtained the data patern I saw, in my: Message-id: 201207050936.q659awci016...@fire.js.berklix.net Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:36:32 +0200 Others very welcome to try it. Julian? Which Firefox version? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 I am a little concerned. Me too ! Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. I suggest others create a dummy guest account then accesss URL do page save as I wrote. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. From what version? http://people.mozilla.com/~tglek/velocity2012/ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/FileHandleAPI Planned as a supplement or replacement for IndexedDb it seems. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
Hi, Reference: From: Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.com Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:09:17 -0400 Message-id: 53.21.06836.dac26...@smtp02.insight.synacor.com Thomas Mueller wrote: from Ivan Ivanov hel...@abv.bg: Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels striping binaries, older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) but Firefox Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http sendmail etc. Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, but then equally for modern BSD Linux, Easier with older smaller versions of OS. (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: From: IamTrying iamtrying.t...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: 1341406026965-5724143.p...@n5.nabble.com IamTrying wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by FreeBSD? Additional to all the useful things Matthew wrote, I'd add: IamTrying could/should have read such Basic stuff on many webs/ search engines, inc Wikipedia. no need to ask here: More efficient for community if IamTrying read there. Less writing work, per more readers, more carefully researched cross checked linked facts etc. My memory: Hurd for many years was GNU/FSF's dream / vapourware OS, a few bits but not a complete OS (kernel, compiler, cd /usr/src ; make world ) most of us ignored it got on with BSD lcensed BSD code. Later Linux arrived, maybe a decade later Hurd finaly arrived as an OS no longer bits; most of us in BSD continued to ignore it. It's FSF, we in BSD prefer BSD licenced stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd GNU General Public License Minix3 exists too. Yup Minix isn't dead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix3 Mach exists or use to, various OSs if you're browsing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system Includes ref. to google chrome. Have fun reading :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Carsten Mattner wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. Thats what shows with lynx Firefox shows some boring page beginnning - The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries grouped by project. No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with corrections/additions. Note also this list of Google's open source projects. Python Guido Van Rossum Python creator Alex Martelli Python Cookbook, ... Brett Cannon Python Jeremy Hylton Zope I'll skip the rest, Yawn. Firefox also runs some script. Doing a page save tar cf ends with a tar image containing datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail to it can't harvest ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck_ufs running too often
My suggestion: Set background_fsck=YES in /etc/rc.conf and let the system boot up that way. _If_ you have a faulty disk or other data corruption, you'll notice this _before_ going multi-user and maybe making things worse. Yes, it might take some time, but it's time well invested in your data integrity. Alternative: Perform a shutdown now and go into single-user mode. Then unmount all your file systems, do mount -o ro / and then perform the fsck run on all file systems. It's typically adviced to perform file system checks on unmounted (or at least read-only mounted) file systems. man fsck: - Note that background fsck is limited to checking for only the most commonly occurring file system abnormalities. Under certain circumstances, some errors can escape background fsck. It is recommended that you perform foreground fsck on your systems periodically and whenever you encounter file-system-related pan- ics. --- So do a manual fsck to make sure there's no residual faults lurking. Realise fsck wont start if it thinks its clean, (but might not be clean) so Boot single user type fsck or fsck -y PS /etc/rc.conf: fsck_y_enable=YES # to regularly force clean if fsck asks # background_fsck=YES # a trade off your decision Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: i already proposed (but not publically) to turn FreeBSD into commercial system. REALLY i would not see a problem to pay say 100$ per server licence. I would see a problem with that -- not because I don't think FreeBSD is worth it. I do, and I think it is worth more than that, in fact. The biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy Hi Chad etc, I admire the perserverance, but maybe Don't feed the troll ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
Agreed. Wojciech Puchar is in my 'probable troll' file at this point, Here too, http://berklix.com/~jhs/dots/.procmailrc.lists Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A bash scripting question
CyberLeo Kitsana wrote Odhiambo Washington: By the way, what's gammu, /usr/ports/comms/gammu presumably ( for mobile phone connection ) and why is it in /usr/bin ? Pass. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
Polytropon wrote: I assume it's just an aspect of still being too young in regards of missing the difference between freedom and anarchy: the right to extend one's freedom is limited as soon as it limits the freedom of others. Maybe another aspect is the lack of discussion culture and the proper use of means of language. You often find such behaviour among school children of the lower grades. Using words without knowing their meaning is very typical for people in puberty. :-) Yes. Questions@ has some un- self- disciplined kids/ drunks/ trolls, who degrade this list's signal to noise ratio. They could be reduced by a combo. of eg: - forcible unsub, black list, - block of anon. remailer domains - making this list subscribtion required before posting. (which would make it harder for newbies fresh to FreeBSD, but we need some solution) I suggest others too should complain to postmas...@freebsd.org appending offenders bad postings, let postmaster decide action. The only other option I can think of is to personaly extend my procmail filter on my own questions@ incoming stream, to delete all postings from listed individuals. Many others could do similar, but massive inefficiency, newbies couldn't, the noise on the raw unfiltered list in web achives would damage FreeBSD. Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
Hi Polytropon, cc questions@ (No CC Wojciech P. as my local filters drop text from him ) To translate this to a programmer's job: You're being paid to write a program for a customer. You deliver the program. That's what you are paid for. Still the source code is yours (as _you_ are the creator, no matter who you sold a copy to). So I would assume that you can still use the program for further projects that run independently from that customer. EXCEPT - of course, there is a contract specifying otherwise. There's often legal (copyright, patents, etc) discussions on FreeBSD lists, maybe we should have a le...@freebsd.org list on http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo There's 193 countries in the United Nations http://www.un.org/en/members/growth.shtml Some have different laws even within one country: In UK, England Scotland have different contract law: http://www.inhouselawyer.co.uk/index.php/scotland-home/8094-scots-and-english-contract-law-false-friends Decades back USA employees by default retained more patent /or maybe copyright rights than UK employees. In UK by default it went to employer. But if a USA employer put a clause in to over- ride the default ? ... IANAL = I Am Not A Lawyer etc. German employee law I don't know. I've always been freelance. Tip: Often mentioning the idea at the beginnning of contracts, technical project directors are happy to ask their legal dept. to add a simple clause they draft themselves along the lines of eg: Customer has exclusive rights to code written just for project. Programmer can keep publish general code written or enhanced for general tools not exclusively for project. Customer can keep use a copy of tools. Best to suggest such ideas at the beginning not end of projects. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
Wojciech Puchar wrote: If you cannot see this - i cannot help you any more. sorry. Your noise is no help. Use appropriate lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
GNU communist licence for C compiler is not bad at all (contrary to other ..^ ..^ software). I many others _Know_ what BSD FSF licenses are. Don't wwant repeated nonsense about 'communism'. If you didn't subscribe http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-toolchain before the GCC V Clang decision was made, your views now irrelevant. If you still must emit noise about licenses subscribe http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy Best subscribe follow up about communism to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat or /dev/null Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
Sorry, my last header wrongly to Mark Felder, could give the wrong impression. I would like Wojciech Puchar (not Mark F.) to stop banging on about 'GNU communist licence' etc. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity
Hi Cordula, Good points you made. The sooner it's blocked the easier to block. *BSD, + *Linux, Solaris etc people could start contacting their local anti monopoly / anti free trade, government departments to give them time to look into the issues. If eg EU commision found it a monopolist conspiracy, imposed swingeing fines like on Microsoft last time, that could persuade Asian mainboard manufacturers not to monopolise with Microsoft. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Hi, Reference: From: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:51:46 +0200 Message-id: CADGWnjW2LnrtOiXFzWFk9btMaeJhmOTxdZ7ScymY=qgme_c...@mail.gmail.com C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. Kurt I'm not sure I understand the issue, but this is my take on it so far: 1. What's preventing the makers of boot loaders like GRUB (which can also boot FreeBSD) from getting a certificate ONCE? And if they have one, what's preventing them from loading ANY kernel at all? If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels. Not that others ( eg us) would have to, presumably we could leave it wide open (aside of terms of purchase see discussion earlier in thread), (aside of risk of key revocation on some hardware manufacturers) Risk of key revocation later If hardware manufacturer ships new bios or uefi, or user upgrades to new UEFI (eg I as a user must upgrade a uefi soon as a laptop overheats). + if MS get away with this intrusion, next they'll consider requiring a Call Home demon (that could also run on *UX, I guess they'd be pleased to provide source free of charge for that next stage entrapment ! ;-) that all PC users must run periodicaly, to update UEFI table with new revised list of authorised keys. It is only the first stage boot loader that needs to be signed, or not? Far as I've read, yes. I wasn't sure about AMD so I looked here: /usr/ports/sysutils/grub/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html (Re Grub 2) The current release is working on Intel/AMD PCs, OpenFirmware-based PowerPC machines (PowerMac and Pegasos), EFI-based PC (IntelMac) and coreboot (formerly, LinuxBIOS), and is being ported to UltraSparc. 2. What's preventing anyone of us in the EU from stepping up efforts with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament to stop Microsoft from monopolizing the ARM (and later x86) platforms, i.e. by becoming the only gatekeepers? After all, EU sovereign states and their economies can't depend on a US corporation having a global kill switch to their whole infrastructure. We're not just talking about Windows dominance here, but a lot more: dominance on the whole hardware segment. I'm pretty sure this scheme is highly anti-competitive, and I guess it runs afoul of a lot of already existing EU regulations. I think we will need to contact the EU, hence assembling URLs first: http://berklix.org/uefi/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95
Maybe I'm contacting wrong mailling list, I can't seem to get ahold of ISP/hosting guys on this list. Truly amazing that for a server OS, there is so little input for something like MySQL server. Perhaps everyone else is still using text files, does 10TPS, or runs linux, don't know what to make of it :\ -Simon Yes you too are using the wrong list. The questions@ list was created to catch FreeBSD newbies, somewhere to point /etc/motd at. ( It's evolved to also deal with _some_ more complex issues 'cos some on questions@ failed to move on, post more complex non beginner issues to the maybe 50+ or more specialist lists. ) Examples for this topic might include: freebsd-...@freebsd.org freebsd-datab...@freebsd.org freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org freebsd-performa...@freebsd.org See http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Just 2 clicks from http://freebsd.org/ Sad how many people don't look, dump all on questions@, breaking the whole point of having 50+ different themed FreeBSD lists. Those only using questions@ _Please_ realise there are other lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Read the remits of the other lists subscribe /or post those lists that match your topic. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95
Those only using questions@ _Please_ realise there are other lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Read the remits of the other lists subscribe /or post those lists that match your topic. PS All credit thanks to a few highly skilled informed people on questions@ who regularly contribute good advice helping newcomers. Just that many Was-once-a-beginner should start to think: I've been using FreeBSD a while now, I'm no longer just a newbie to cluelessly use just questions@, I should look at what other FreeBSD lists there are. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95
Hi Simon Thanks Julian. The reason for freebsd-questions is because when I looked thru isp, database, and performance, and few others, they had one or two threads a month with barely much input. Yup, isp@ is quiet, some other lists too, doesn't necessarily mean there'snot good people listening, though I suspect total sub. # on isp@ might be low. I figured I would reach more people on this list. Certainly lots, but some specialist lists have good people listening, less troll noise than lately on questions@. The reason why I didn't use freebsd-hackers is because I thought perhaps this was somewhat trivial, like I was overlooking something, but I guess not. Next time I'll just use that list instead. I think it would be my best bet. Welcome to hackers@ the rest :-) PS The one list I periodicaly notice is not quite there, or a handbook entry either I think, is something for all of us who periodically suspect a machine is maybe a bit sick, want to give it a damn good thrashing to test it. Well, complex issue, how long is a piece of string ? but there's performance@ ports@ for ideas tools etc. Good luck. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update Not Recognizing Updated Custom Kernel for 9.0-RELEASE-p3
Resend as I lost cc questions@ by mistake Ryan Frederick wrote: I have several FreeBSD 9 systems with custom compiled kernels. After using freebsd-update to go from 9.0-RELEASE-p2 to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 this morning I rebuilt the kernels. However after recompiling, installing, and rebooting with the custom kernels subsequent update checks using freebsd-update cron or freebsd-update fetch indicate that /boot/kernel/kernel (and only /boot/kernel/kernel) needs to be updated despite the custom kernel indicating 9.0-RELEASE-p3 in the output of uname -a. Maybe freebsd-update is taking cognisance of recent posts to security-advisor...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 10/9: Lexar 64GB JumpDrive USB 2.0 isn't recognized anymore!
I have a Lexar 64GB USB 2.0 JumpDrive which worked in its pristine or virgine state very well. I used it yesterday, brand new, to fill it up with data. Some 30GB data got stored, I shut down the system (FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64) and this morning, I put the USB drive out of the USB port (computer off) and took it to the office. At the office, neither a FreeBSD10.0-CURRENT box nor a FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE box (both moth recent buildworld) where able to recognize the drive! While the USB drive was recognized as /dev/da1s1 before, this time I see in the console something like this: ugen7.6: Lexar at usbus7 umass1: Lexar USB Flash Drive, class 0/0, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 6 on usb= us7 And nothing further anymore. On a Linux box (Suse) the USB drive can be read as well as on a Windows 7 box (I only read the content, I didn't write onto the USB drive on both systems). What is up? Since Windows and Linux can read/recognize the drive and FreeBSD not, I guess FreeBSD does have a problem with that kind of 64GB drive. I do not care of the data on the USB drive, so I'd like to GPART it. But without having a device node created, this is very unlikely to achieve. Any suggestions? Please CC my email, I'm not subscribing this specific list. Think hardware power cabling bad socket, Power available from socket. Power doubler (twin plug) cables. external powered hub I have some towers here cant power some discs. I have one powered hub here, has an extremely weak power supply, Its not always the OS that bites you, but hardware too. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to allow by MAC
Hi, Reference: From: Bill Yuan byc...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:09:01 +0800 Message-id: CAC+JH2ySQVCSXY+3Grh+Qe=li3wzsyu8czq3sa1w3azgpjp...@mail.gmail.com Bill Yuan wrote: come on , someone help please, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Bill Yuan byc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, how to allow by MAC in ipfw currently i set the rule like below 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to MAC Address 1 1 allow ip from any to any MAC MAC Address 1 any 2 deny all from any to any i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the ipfw properly to support this ? Maybe others ignored it for the same reason I did: blocking by MAC number seems weird of no interest, I block pass by IP net number. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to allow by MAC
Julian H. Stacey wrote: Bill Yuan wrote: come on , someone help please, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Bill Yuan byc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, how to allow by MAC in ipfw currently i set the rule like below 1 allow ip from any to any MAC any to MAC Address 1 1 allow ip from any to any MAC MAC Address 1 any 2 deny all from any to any i want to only allow the mac address to go through the freebsd firewall, but I found it is not working on my freebsd but it works on pfsense! so maybe that means the environment is not the same ? and how to setup the ipfw properly to support this ? Maybe others ignored it for the same reason I did: blocking by MAC number seems weird of no interest, I block pass by IP net number. as shown by ifconfig MAC : 6 byte IP : 4 byte (IPV4) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Too much hot air preaching to the choir is counter productive would die away after internal argument. Better be active Externaly. Defend our future by alerting governments there is an upcoming issue. (eg EU has mega fined MS before for monopoly abuse, EU etc could warn off MS if we alert governments there's something to monitor). Free source OSs, ie inc *BSD *Linux etc, need to co-ordinate with eg - A few short anodyne sentences summarising the MS Win8 UEFI problem, (better too little text than too much, to reduce work, avoid risk of discredit from getting anything wrong). - List of links to specification analysis discussion forums. - List of contacts to alert: politicians officials responsible for anti monopoly anti restraint of trade policing. - List of volunteers: people in each OS project to contact governments. - A brief simple sample letter to send to alert politicians officials (maybe via paper post or phone, not email to spam box ;-) As a start here's : http://berklix.org/uefi/ URLs welcome. Contact names welcome. Volunteers welcome. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Jerry wrote It is posts like this that basically turn my stomach Never argue with a drunk. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive
Waitman Gobble wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Waitman Gobble wrote: Hi, I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. When I plug a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 seconds for the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I haven't used USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or maybe I need to reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. Might be a marginal power issue. USB 3 devices are allowed to consume 1.0 Amps. USB2 ports only need provide 0.5. I have a tower wont recognise my USB disc on its USB2 ports. On my new PCI express card in same tower, it comes up quickly. Cheers, Julian Thanks. Not sure if there's anything I can do about that. It's a new HP dv6 laptop which according to box was mfg in May 2012... I would assume hardware would be designed and put together properly. :) Sounds new enough :-) My USB3 disc on my newish laptop with USB 2 socket 8.2 9.0 come up fast enough, not noticed problems, not specificaly timed it though. Try external power if you have a socket on disk box ? Try disk on another known good FreeBSD USB3 card on a tower (my card cost 30 Euro BTW) Or try a power doubler cable (connected via a female to female adapter, which Ive never seen on sale, I made my own by cutting up a dead mainboard), to the USB 3 male to male cable. (for any who dont know, cant omit that cable as USB3 socket on lapop size drives is a different shape, flater, wider. I wonder if it might be taking time dropping back to USB2 speed. if eg you don't have xhci in kernel ? I have all of config -x/boot/kernel/kernel | grep hci device uhci device ohci device xhci device ehci I just havent taken some out yet. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: prune ports tree?
Gary Aitken wrote: Is it possible to specify that parts of the ports tree should never be used? Yes. Although as others pointed out it depend quite what you mean by that :-) Example setenv DUDS SomeEndPortToSkip_eg_ghostview One could also do setenv DUDS `printenv DUDS` vietnamese chinese ; make fetch if for instance you wanted to fetch most but not all distiles It prevents a recusion into SUBDIR (either into the 30 main ports/ dirs, or the 20,000+ 2nd level dirs. How I find DUDS useful: When I do an upgrade, I copy (using my shell http://berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise ) about 30 Makefile.local from my personal preference directory http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/jhs/ into /usr/ports/*/Makefile.local Then I let loose a monstrous make with something like cd /usr/ports ;\ nice make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES \ all install package package-recursive ; bell that takes days always breaks a few times on route, ( using make -k or make -i is a bad idea, as it messes upports that other ports then think are built, but are not - so I avoid -i -k ) Sometimes I dont have time to immediately analyse each breakage, just want topush the compiles on, come back later to debug broken faults, so I then use (with csh setenv DUDS whatever_port_just_broke `printenv DUDS` start the make again. (PS later after most stuff is build I start the truly monster builds eg openoffice etc with eg nice make BERKLIX_AMBITIOUS=YES \ all install package package-recursive ; bell # http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.sh/bell ) For DUDS other ideas See: vi -c/DUDS /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question about FreeBSD for IA-64 software
Hi, Reference: From: Denis Guzanov guzanov...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:45:54 +0400 Message-id: CAMUH=P1HGivtRUsgSz9_XYt-wLBh-8cFvq=i5fs6hn1ittk...@mail.gmail.com Denis Guzanov wrote: Dear FreeBSD Team, Firstly I would like to say you Big thanks for your really good job and the best system for us, small IT staff. Second, I would like to ask you about some problem with FreeBSD source. I've downloaded .iso Image from this link: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/following iso file: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-ia64-release.iso did you check the MD5 ? And when I tried to install it I have nothing You'll need to be more specific. I did it many times, but have no result. When I've downloaded 8.3 version Installation was completed successfully. Dear FreeBSD Team, could you, please, check your .iso file for IA-64 systems or maybe consult me what I need to do? Thanks and Best regards, Denis. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity
grarpamp wrote: Isn't there a lot of needless handwaving going on when the spec is pretty clear that installing your own complete PKI tree will all boil down to what is effectively a jumper on the motherboard? The hope for a jumper is insufficient. Cracking open laptops is no fun. It's not often that they unscrew easily; usually considerable fear of breaking innards or chassis. Hoping a jumper Might be under an easily unscrewable panel seems unlikely. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How do I determine support for $xx?
Hi Devin There were some great tips in your last post. Would be great if they couldfo in FreeBSD handbook somewhere. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Quoting Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com: UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. I don't see how this MS scam is even at all legal. It is clearly restraint of trade and probably violates some other related laws too. A shame Bush blocked dismembering monopolist Microsoft. The last enormous fines Microsoft paid the EU for monopoly abuse, presumably failed to discipline Microsoft. Time for increased fines, till Microsoft stops abusing its monooly. Would be nice if the fines were so high it forced a free recall by hardware vendors to fix, if it can't be fixed with a UEFI net upgrade. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
I do wonder about that. What incentive does the possesor of a signing key have to keep it secret? Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, then publish the key so we could all forever more compile boot our own kernels. But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft Verisign seek to impose. It seems dangerous. I suspect we (the free source community) will need to campaign, to engage for eg more EU fines against monoplists to force them to back off. I say EU, 'cos they have done it before, so our best bet so far, but it doesnt matter much which governments impose swingeing anti monoploy fines, as long as enough do, to deter MS verisign etc. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Contract penalty clause maybe ? Lawyers ? A limited-liability company with no assets is judgement-proof. There's set up running costs (time money), other exposure http://berklix.com/~jhs/mecc/ltd_gmbh.html Easiest done by those who have done it before, One would be careful, there's exposure to directors individual liabilities eg fraud laws perhaps in some scenarios, not wanting to be struck off listed as somone not allowed to be a director of other companies. Otherwise one of us would purchase a key for $99, then publish the key so we could all forever more compile boot our own kernels. But that would presumably break the trap Microsoft Verisign seek to impose. Could it really be that simple? I doubt it. Even if so, best avoid one individual in the firing line. It's not nice being a small company director personaly targeted by lawyers of a rich malicious company. Being in another country gives little protection, remote lawyers hire local lawyers to harass. They don't even need a good chance of winning, inventive threats, stress costs unpleasant. Best activate officials with big budgets manpower to fight back. We should unite with other Free Source groups approach inform eg the Competition Commisioner of the European Union (which has already fined MS heavily before on anti monopoly issues) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Microsoft_competition_case http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23366103/ns/business-world_business/t/eu-fines-microsoft-record-billion/ I recall George Bush junior quashed the last go at breaking up Microsoft, but maybe the present USA govt. could be encouraged to fine MS, even if they don't fancy breaking the monopoly aka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
(cf. EULA) that you accept those licensing of hardware. Also, I think you'll find that such actions are already illegal certainly in the UK, and I believe EU wide. Yes illegal for English law (England Scotland have different contract laws). Contract terms given after money changes hands are Not part of contract. (Reasonable Eh ?) Case law since in UK, NCP National Car Park lost an appeals court decision on their nasty disclaimers visible only after you'd paid to enter car park. (PS Matthew, I noticed in Canterbury NCP built an escape lane in their car park after. So one could then queue up to park, theoreticaly block the lane, read super fast all the disclaimers, before deciding to either pay enter or take the sharp curve out. I've always hoped all the (usually American) legal rubbish in the sealed packages I bought in Germany were on same principle irrelevant, (but no idea). USA companies later learnt to ship with front page in transparent bags, but still not usualy readable till after purchase. Maybe USA restraint of trade laws could penalise a monopolist working to convert a market to sell computers that (if amd64) have been been crippled to only work with associate bsuiness partners ? Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bug in /usr/bin/calendar: Thu+1 doesn't match on 7th or December
Hi, Please report bugs with send-pr (cos bug reports to mail list get lost) See man send-pr If you can attach a patch to fix it, so much the better Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ?
Jason Hellenthal wrote: Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because. Agreed ! Many replies were sent to Wrong lists. Original poster respondents abused stable@ questions@ Cross posting 2 lists un-necessarily, despite: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL C.1.3 List Charters Rules of the road: No posting should be made to more than 2 mailing lists, and only to 2 when a clear and obvious need ... There was a desire, as always, but no need. (so I removed cc: stable@ on this post, to avoid this post also breaking that rule, (on the basis that stable@ readership are more likely to already know about Not cross posting, using the Right list, as questions@ started as a target list to point clueless new users to, from /etc/motd. (It was expected as users grew experienced, they'd subscribe other lists themed to their interests.))) Noise was emitted to lists with wrong remits. advoc...@freebsd.org exists for promo. talk inc. re. wiki. Please read list remits, conform to them, subscribe appropriate lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy Furthering the Use of FreeBSD Share ideas and plan to increase the number of companies and individuals using FreeBSD http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable This is the mailing list for users of freebsd-stable. the stable cvsup target is built from the latest official RELEASE with the addition of critical bug fixes. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list?
Matthew Seaman wrote: On 30/05/2012 14:09, Julian H. Stacey wrote: If you log into mailman at eg. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions you can see your current score. I'm logged in there, A page with 2nd line=20 Julian H. Stacey's subscription status, password, and options for the = freebsd-questions mailing list.=20 =20 I can't find any score. Where is it please ? Maybe it might not display if score might be at nill ?=20 (nothing bounced to me lately that I'm aware of). Hmmm... perhaps you haven't bounced anything from freebsd-questions@... For me, the third bit of text on that page says: We have received some recent bounces from your address. Your current bounce score is 2.0 out of a maximum of 5.0. Please double check that your subscribed address is correct and that there are no problems with delivery to this address. Your bounce score will be automatically reset if the problems are corrected soon. Right above Changing your freebsd-questions membership information. Ah, OK Thanks, nothing there for me, never happened to see any such message, I guess I've been lucky, nice feature though. I found the if clause here, line 159 of /usr/ports/mail/mailman/work/mailman-2.1.14/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py elif info and info.score 0: # Provide information about their current bounce score. We know Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cloud software ?
Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access and share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories ) NFS + AMD The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible. Aim for device drivers servers that can interact as client server pairs over tcp/ip, Examples: /usr/ports/graphics/xsane http://www.xsane.org/ /usr/ports/sysutils/nut http://www.networkupstools.org/ X windows split screens client proceses. try to avoid neeeding to have to run specific programs only on the host connected to the device. Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...) Non native English is not the cause of misunderstanding :-) Misunderstanding comes from expecting technolgists to derive much if anything from the Marketer/ Salesman / Manager promoted phrase Cloud Computing, which I've found so far carries nothing new, for those who've already been working in distributed Unix environments. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cloud software ?
Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello I'm searching for a cloud software :-) More precisely we would like to offer to our students and professors a kind of private cloud to access/manipulate their personnal data from almost anywhere and with almost any devices ... ( Personnal PC, Mac, smartphones and tablets ... etc ) Cloud-ware for any all devices protocols inc. proprietary ? - In London (Soho, tourist trap area) one used to be able buy cans labelled Scotch Mist, nice tartan painting outside, the can was light. - Computer salesmen have offered vapourware for decades, (then rushed back to their engineers said: We've sold it, now design it!) - A recent advert bore the slogan Would you trust your data to a cloud ? with a small cloud in a dry desert. Anyone could help ? Thank you I suggest first specify, then implement. As that's work, here's a global index of BSD consultants wvailable to work: http://berklix.com/consultants/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ?
Hi,
Reference:
From: Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:25:28 +0200
Message-id:
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Xavier wrote:
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 04:15:41PM -0400, ill...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On 7 April 2012 13:53, Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi to all,
I have:
casa# disktype /dev/da1
--- /dev/da1
Character device, size 3.771 GiB (4048551936 bytes)
FreeBSD boot loader (i386 boot2/BTX 1.02 at sector 2)
BSD disklabel (at sector 1), 8 partitions
Partition c: 2.145 GiB (2302711808 bytes, 4497484 sectors from 0)
Type 0 (Unused)
DOS/MBR partition map
Partition 1: 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 7438032 sectors from 63)
Type 0x83 (Linux)
Ext3 file system
UUID D1A7E6D6-3A34-4864-B6E8-C4DAA34AD776 (DCE, v4)
Last mounted at /
Volume size 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 929754 blocks of 4 KiB)
Partition 2: 227.5 MiB (238533120 bytes, 465885 sectors from 7438095)
Type 0x05 (Extended)
Partition 5: 227.5 MiB (238500864 bytes, 465822 sectors from 7438095+63)
Type 0x82 (Linux swap / Solaris)
Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian
Swap size 227.4 MiB (238489600 bytes, 58225 pages of 4 KiB)
I'm running from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE
I try:
casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/
mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument
How can I mount it ?
mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/
perhaps? Note---^^
If that still doesn't work, try adding -r in there (as ext2fs might not
support r/w in your configuration).
casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/
mount: /dev/da1s1 : No such file or directory
casa#
casa# mount -r -t ext2fs /dev/da1s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/
mount: /dev/da1s1 : No such file or directory
casa#
You have more ideas ?
With 9.0-RELEASE generic kernel:
man mount
...
man 2 nmount
The type argument names the file system. The types of file
systems known to the system can be obtained with lsvfs(1).
lsvfs
FilesystemRefs Flags
- ---
devfs1 synthetic
msdosfs 0
nfs 0 network
procfs 0 synthetic
cd9660 0 read-only
ufs 1
cd /boot/kernel ; find . -name \*ext\* -print
kldload /boot/kernel/ext2fs.ko ; lsvfs
# Adds
ext2fs 0
man ext2fs
To link into the kernel:
options EXT2FS
To load as a kernel loadable module:
kldload ext2fs
No mention of ext3 there, nor from find (above).
.. so you May be out of luck ..
Divide the problem. Reduce simulltaneous testing of backslash ext3.
Delete all backslash junk during test. Try
su ; mkdir /mnt/test ; mount -r -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/test
If that likely too fails, then select a list:
freebsd...@freebsd.org
or
freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org
+ cc code authors on freebsd
{ see names in base of man ext2fs` look in sources or cvs maybe }
Ask them if anyone is known to be working on Ext3 on FreeBSD
(or *OtherBSD, as that'd be a good start for a port)
If all that fails, insert stick in a Linux box (*),
copy data from the ext3 stick, reformat stick as Ext2, write the data back.
Ext2 doesnt need the latest FreeBSD-9, at least FreeBSD-8.2
can also handle Ext2.
Linux boxes can be found in unexpected places, eg some
media devices are built on Linux, (Some some manufacturers are not
aware BSD offers more liberal licensing than FSF). Whether
such devices can reformat to user selected format I haven't yet had
access to try so you might need a real Linux PC to re-format.
Examples of media boxes:
Iomega ScreenPlay TV Link, Director Edition
high definition multimedia player
http://go.iomega.com/section?p=4760secid=42740#tech_specsItem_tab
External USB Drive Format:
NTFS (default), FAT32, Mac OS Extended (HFS+)**, Ext2 or Ext3.
(No mention of UFS, so presumably a Linux, I will collect one soon).
http://www.humaxfoxsathdr.co.uk/
Foxsat-HDR/500
http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10087#more-info
(Not stated what this supports.)
Dreambox 800
http://www.dreambox800.co.uk/Dreambox-800-Satellite-Receiver-pro
(Not stated what this supports, but based on Linux)
Cheers,
Julian
--
Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com
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Re: mounting ext2fs
# kldload ext2fs kldload: can't load ext2fs: File exists what does lsvfs show ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting ext2fs
what does lsvfs show ? Maybe try: dd if=/dev/da0s1 count=20 of=/tmp/t ; file /tmp/t (it show interesting stuff on my /xp anyway ). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting ext2fs
what does lsvfs show ? Maybe try: dd if=/dev/da0s1 count=20 of=/tmp/t ; file /tmp/t (it show interesting stuff on my /xp anyway ). kldstat # I guess that shows you have the module linked in too ? or else already compiled in config -x /boot/kernel/kernel | grep ext so a puzzle if all that looks good but still doesnt work. Good luck ! Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
