Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 4 Feb 2013, at 18:53, mhca12 wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:48 PM, mhca12 wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM, mhca12 wrote:
>>> I have just installed 9.1 amd64 on a test machine and wanted
>>> to install rsync. Is pkgng the right choice and if so is there
>>> a handy guide how to get started or should I use pkg_add -r?
>>>
>>> Is this any different for i386? It used to be that there's
>>> no i386 pkgng repository.
>>
>> I ran pkg and it fetched and setup pkgng. That was easy.
>
> Is it possible that the November 2012 security incident means
> there's still no installable packaged via pkg-install?
> I was going to install rsync.
If you're interested, we've set up an unofficial but public pkgng format
repository at
http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng
To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
These have FreeBSD 8 and 9, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages for the
whole ports tree,
build failures notwithstanding.
You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.
- Mark
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Re: no 9.1-release packages?
On 7 Mar 2013, at 15:52, Ruben de Groot wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages.
> This however does not work as there is no directory "packages-9.1-release" on
> the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this?
>
If you're prepared to move to pkgng for binary packages,
https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
There's an unofficial pkgng format repository of binary packages available
After installing pkgng (from ports), then edit your /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf to
use
this line.
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
- Mark
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Re: State of Packages
On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote:
>> Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.
>
> Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again.
> They will come back.
For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up
an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at
http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng
To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages
for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding.
You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.
- Mark
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Solution for school lab
On 30 Oct 2011, at 10:01, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I am about to setup a small PC lab for teaching operating systems. Since > computers will need to be used for teaching > Windows/Unix(FreeBsd)/Linux(Novell) I need to find a way: > > 1. Systems to coexists on the same hardware > 2. Easily restore system images to the initial state. > Diskless booting perhaps, along the lines of this project at ICL in London. http://www.ukuug.org/newsletter/19.2/#hpc_f_andy_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Need to know the compatibility
On 29 Dec 2011, at 15:45, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, vijayamurugan.kalyanasunda...@emc.com wrote: > >> Hi Team, >> >> Kindly let me know on the compatibility of " Intel X520 Dual Port 10 Gigabit >> Ethernet PCIe Adaptor Card " with Free BSD 8.2 OS. >> > > I didn't see any answer to this - but we are interested in ANY 10 > GB ethernet card for FreeBSD or Ubuntu. Does anyone have that working? > > Daniel Feenberg > NBER The two drivers below sound promising? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ixgb&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ixgbe&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: no hyperthreading in FreeBSD 9?
On 13 Jan 2012, at 16:30, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > I just upgraded from 8-STABLE to 9-STABLE on my dual Xeon (nocona). Now I > have in my boot messages: > ... > root: /etc/rc.d/sysctl: WARNING: sysctl machdep.hlt_logical_cpus does not > exist. > root: /etc/rc.d/sysctl: WARNING: sysctl machdep.hyperthreading_allowed does > not exist. > ... > > So isn't hyperthreading not available anymore in FreeBSD 9? http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0/UPDATING?r1=222852&r2=222853&; Seems to imply HT is enabled by default and new sysctls are used to take logical CPUs offline. How many CPUs does your boot message suggest FreeBSD 9 is reporting? - Mark___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: where is plig.net
On 6 Feb 2012, at 21:51, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > About the first thing I ever learned about FreeBSD was the uk mirror > ftp.plig.net and cvsup.plig.net which I think used to be ftp2.uk.freebsd.org. > Since then I have always used them as a file source for broadband speed > tests. They seem to have disappeared very recently. Does anyone know what > happened to them, have they stopped being a mirror? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hubs/2012-January/002442.html___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On 28 Feb 2012, at 11:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > sorry to be a pain. > > Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete? Depending on how you weight the various items of POSIX compliance, a finger-in-the-air guess would be around 90%, but I think only the -hackers list can give you a good answer. It's probably instructive to compare to various other OSes level of compliance as well (for your presentation). - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD: syslog-ng: I/O error occurred while writing; fd='xx', error='No buffer space available (yy)'
On 22 Mar 2012, at 09:00, Traiano Welcome wrote: > > > My question is: What does this error mean, and how can I resolve it? From a very casual inspection of the problem, I'd say you're pushing out syslog messages faster than the kernel can get them out the interface. How many syslog messages are going in (per second) and what kind of network interface are you trying to send them out through? > > I have tried to frame this as an operating system kernel resource issue, > and experimented with increasing the freebsd kernel sysctls for UDP > performance: I think you can push nmbclusters up to about 600k, but if your input is running faster than your output, no amount of buffering will permanently stave off this problem. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD: syslog-ng: I/O error occurred while writing; fd='xx', error='No buffer space available (yy)'
On 22 Mar 2012, at 11:40, Traiano Welcome wrote: > That's what I thought as well, but it's the details that evade me. Almost > all traffic to and from this server is UDP (syslog), the graph I sent > earlier shows the kind of volumes and trends that are typical: Peak > traffic during the problem periods averages at about 1 Mbps outbound and > 200 Kbps inbound to/from the interface. The interface itself is a > Embedded Broadcom 5708 NIC on a Dell PowerEdge 1950. > > > Here are a couple of netstat polls during one of the problem periods: > > > [root@syslog2]# date;netstat -p udp -s |egrep -w > "(received|delivered|dropped)" > Thu Mar 22 12:11:34 SAST 2012 > 19969 datagrams received > 2 dropped due to no socket > 0 dropped due to full socket buffers > 19967 delivered > . > . > . > [root@syslog2~]# date;netstat -p udp -s |egrep -w > "(received|delivered|dropped)" > Thu Mar 22 13:36:46 SAST 2012 > 662385 datagrams received > 118 dropped due to no socket > 0 dropped due to full socket buffers > 662267 delivered > --- > > > Somehow this doesn't strike me as a large volume of throughput … Ok, fair enough. You might try simulating the problem by deliberately overloading the syslog UDP output and confirm the cause. - Mark___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD: syslog-ng: I/O error occurred while writing; fd='xx', error='No buffer space available (yy)'
On 23 Mar 2012, at 08:58, Traiano Welcome wrote: > Hi Mark > > > On 22/03/2012 13:54, "Mark Blackman" wrote: > >> >> On 22 Mar 2012, at 11:40, Traiano Welcome wrote: >>> >>> Somehow this doesn't strike me as a large volume of throughput Š >> >> Ok, fair enough. You might try simulating the problem by deliberately >> overloading the syslog UDP output and confirm the cause. > > > Apparently this means that the network driver has "filled" up with > packets. John Baldwin over at freebsd-net@ advises I up the number of > descriptors assigned to igb to the maximum > to workaround this using the hw.igb.maxtxd tunable you would set. So I've > rebooted with the following in loader.conf: > > hw.igb.rxd=4096 > hw.igb.txd=4096 > > > This seems to be working so far. What I've noticed is that the system is > using far less RAM than previously, and CPU utilisation is up to 100% of > one core, load average is 1, which I would guess means that the system is > now processing a lot more syslog data now that "more packets are making > it through the network driver". > > I'll keep monitoring over a 24 hour period though, to see how effective > this is. Right, good news. Interesting that you need to tweak network drivers. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how to increase stacksize?
On 4 Apr 2011, at 20:50, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: [snip] > > I'd like to increase stacksize. > How do I do this? > > "limits -s xxx" doesn't set the limits, > any anyway, in /etc/login.conf I get: > > So where do my shell settings come from? stacksize is ultimately a kernel limit, and the hard maximum is visible with sysctl kern.maxssiz set 'kern.maxdxiz' in your /boot/loader.conf and reboot if you're already hitting the hard limit. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how to increase stacksize?
On 4 Apr 2011, at 21:00, Mark Blackman wrote: > > set 'kern.maxdxiz' in your /boot/loader.conf and reboot > if you're already hitting the hard limit. hmm, edit failure there. 'kern.maxssiz' is what I meant of course. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how to use cfs (cryptographic file system) ?
ALANO CONRAZ wrote: And I always get the same error : [tcp] localhost:/usr/local/cfsd-bootstrap: nfsd: RCPROG_NFS: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused and the same with [tcp6] You need to start nfsd? - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why Clang
On 17 Jun 2012, at 21:13, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> Clang is consistently faster at compiling than GCC and it is very clean and >> modular -- not bloated. > > -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 37025016 12 cze 21:46 /usr/bin/clang > > well.. hope you just left the debugging symbols in and statically linked it… - Mark___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is there a way to run FreeBSD ports through port 80?
On 12 Jul 2012, at 17:23, Kaya Saman wrote: > How does one get round this issue as my superiors are telling me that > opening up FTP is a security risk and therefor don't want to proceed? > > > I would like to use ports specifically and not the pkg_add tool to get > software. > > > Can anyone sugget anything? The usual solution appears to be to add MASTER_SORT_REGEX = ^http to your /etc/make.conf file see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-January/226342.html - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pppoe configuration and dns name resolution
On 16 Oct 2012, at 16:08, Jack wrote: > Hi > > I'm new as a FreeBSD user, and trying to configure my > pppoe connection. [snip] > > fxp0 is the ethernet interface of my PC via which adsl modem is connected. > > Any suggestions ... Consider using the ports mpd5 daemon for a PPPoE connection instead. I had a lot of trouble getting PPPoE to work with userland 'ppp', but mpd5 worked fine. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pppoe configuration and dns name resolution
On 16 Oct 2012, at 16:38, Jack wrote: > I 'll try mpd5. Thanks. > > Actually, I was concerned with userland ppp, becoz of the > scenarios where we have a FreeBSD machine and the only > way to connect to internet is an adsl modem in bridge mode > (assuming the mode in modem, can't be changed). > In such case the only utilty is ppp, which can be of help. Ok, usually bridge mode implies PPPoE and mpd5 does PPPoE. Maybe I'm missing your point. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pppoe configuration and dns name resolution
On 16 Oct 2012, at 16:49, Mark Blackman wrote: > > On 16 Oct 2012, at 16:38, Jack wrote: > >> I 'll try mpd5. Thanks. >> >> Actually, I was concerned with userland ppp, becoz of the >> scenarios where we have a FreeBSD machine and the only >> way to connect to internet is an adsl modem in bridge mode >> (assuming the mode in modem, can't be changed). >> In such case the only utilty is ppp, which can be of help. > > Ok, usually bridge mode implies PPPoE and mpd5 does PPPoE. Maybe > I'm missing your point. More accurately, bridge mode (on the modem) means your FreeBSD box will need to be the termination point of the PPPoE link rather than the modem itself and so you need to run something to terminate the PPPoE packets and mpd5 will do that (among other things). - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: high performance server design approach
On 13 Nov 2012, at 10:28, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Thank you Mark for suggestion, but my doubt still remains. perhaps some benchmarking/testing will help clear up the doubt? - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: high performance server design approach
On 13 Nov 2012, at 10:23, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Hi list members, > > i would like to be an http server for static content only. Due to this [snip] > > > What you have to say benchmark nginx to see if it does the job already. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: high performance server design approach
On 13 Nov 2012, at 11:03, Friedrich Locke wrote: > Mark, > > when i say high performance, i am looking something at least as fast as the > fastest performing http server on the market for a given set of requests on > the same pool of static files. > > I am aware og ngnix, but i have to write my own http server. Using someone > else solution is not an option. Ok, fair enough. It's a shame you're not in a position to use proven high performance technology to minimise your time-to-market, but I'll assume you've got a good reason to re-invent the wheel. I think for design questions like that, freebsd-questions@ is not the ideal list, but I suggest either freebsd-hackers@ or freebsd-net@ or a more general purpose networking list. Try http://www.slideshare.net/joshzhu/tips-on-high-performance-server-programming too. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Grow Mounted Filesystems project
On 29 Nov 2012, at 10:48, Lucian wrote: > Hi, anyone knows what has become of this? > http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/new-funded-project-grow-mounted.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2012-November/042539.html covers some of it, I believe. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Which OS for notebook
Charlie Kester wrote: On Tue 05 Oct 2010 at 06:25:05 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is entirely coincidental. I've often seen that opinion expressed, but never on the FreeBSD website or in any of its "official" materials. On the contrary, most of the official literature presents it as an OS for general-purpose computing, and not only for servers. If I'm wrong about and there is an official statement somewhere that the main intention is to provide an OS for servers, it would be good to know. It's derived from a server/workstation OS and I assume the number of FreeBSD deployed servers wildly outnumbers the desktop/notebook installations and the tag line is "The power to serve", so there's a strong server bias. However, lots of people of have put a lot of great work in to expand the desktop/notebook options for FreeBSD, but it's a big mountain to climb. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD-similar build-from-source Linux?
O. Hartmann wrote: well, my question may sound heretic, but since we use mostly Linux based systems in our scientific environment and FreeBSD seems to lack in severe support in GPGPU/CUDA capable graphics boards Hmm, interesting requirement. Sounds like a nice Google SoC project or even something funded. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD-similar build-from-source Linux?
"C. Bergström" wrote: This project is by far too much for a gsoc student not to mention who would mentor it... People throw around the term "GPGPU/CUDA" too much and don't realize that it breaks down into... fair point, I assumed it was a simple driver question. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: adding SRV records to a FreeBSD server
Using the standard version query syntax below.. dig +short @ns1.partnershiphp.org version.bind txt chaos "DNS Server v2090" She seems to have a DNS server that I'm both unfamiliar with and unable to find with a search engine. So, as you say, this is a DNS server question not an OS question. Ola, you must find out which software is being used to provide DNS name service from this machine before proceeding. If 'lsof' is not already installed, as root, install it with pkg_add -rv http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/ports/i386/packages-4.11-release/All/lsof-4.73.1.tgz then as root use lsof -i :53 to identify the name service binary and current PID on your machine. With that data, you should be able to ask more specific questions about managing the name service being used. - Mark On 17 Mar 2011, at 21:54, Ilya Kazakevich wrote: > Hello, > > What name server do you use? I am almost sure you have BIND. > > You must open your zonefile, add SRV record and reload zone. > I think your zonefile is somewhere in /etc/namedb/ > > read bind manual, man named and man ndc (or rndc) to solve your problem. > Your question is not about freebsd but about BIND. > http://www.bind9.net/manuals > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Ola Peters wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Thanks so much for placing this contact information in your header! I am >> trying to add SRV records to my name server, which is a FreeBSD box. >> >> (Output from uname -a): >> >> ns1# uname -a >> FreeBSD ns1.partnershiphp.org 4.11-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE #0: Fri >> Jan 21 17:21:22 GMT 2005 >> r...@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> i386 >> >> I don't have a clue where to start and everytime I make a change, I bring >> our website down. Do you have a link or an example to tell me where I can >> do this? >> >> Thanks so much, >> >> Ola Peters >> Senior Unix Administrator >> IT Department >> Partnership Healthplan of California >> 360 Campus Lane, Suite 100 >> Fairfield, CA 94534 >> >> Phone: (707) 863-4407 | Fax: (707) 863-4349 >> >> Email: opet...@partnershiphp.org >> Our website: www.partnershiphp.org >> >> >> >> ~ PHC CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ~ >> >> The information contained in this document may be privileged, confidential, >> and protected under applicable law and is intended solely for the use of the >> individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended >> recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to >> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, >> distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender >> immediately by telephone and destroy the document. >> >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: A command to check network transfer
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Dear all, I cannot for the life of mine remember the command which allows me to check incoming and outgoing transfer on lo0 and re0. Can you please help? :) netstat -w 1 -i lo0 and netstat -w -l -i re0 for 1 second updates on each interface with packets/bytes in/out - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Which OS for notebook
Jon Radel wrote: I'm somewhat unclear on how that follows. Might it not be that many manufacturers, busily dealing with Microsoft, and easing into Linux now that it has significant "mindshare," have simply decided that there's no economic benefit to releasing detailed hardware specs in a form that works for FreeBSD developers? I really fail to see why you think the fact that the manufacturer itself has released binary drivers for Windows, and possibly Linux, and/or released hardware specs under NDA (non-disclosure agreement) to certain business partners, has any bearing on whether sufficient information to write a driver is available to any FreeBSD programmer with permission to use it to write an open source driver. There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is entirely coincidental. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
