Re: Google Earth... Anyone?
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:41:16 -, Jeff Molofee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone know how to resolve the following error in googleearth (astro/google-earth) === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found === Extracting for google-earth-4 = MD5 Checksum OK for GoogleEarthLinux.bin. = SHA256 Checksum OK for GoogleEarthLinux.bin. === Patching for google-earth-4 === google-earth-4 depends on executable: unmakeself - found === Configuring for google-earth-4 === Building for google-earth-4 === Installing for google-earth-4 === google-earth-4 depends on executable: update-mime-database - found === google-earth-4 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 - found === google-earth-4 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if astro/google-earth already installed /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/google-earth install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/astro/google-earth/work/google-earth-4/googleearth-mimetypes.xml /usr/local/share/mime/application/ install: /usr/ports/astro/google-earth/work/google-earth-4/googleearth-mimetypes.xml: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Create an empty file with the same name, program will probably still work. (not pretty solution though) Try doing manual install, just extract and follow whatever instructions google provides you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting an old drive/filesystem?
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:03:09 -, Reuben A. Popp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We have an old dusty DECstation (last bootup circa 1993) that is finally being removed from our server room after we do one final dump of the data. If I were to remove its drives to attatch to a modern scsi card, could I still mount them under FreeBSD? I'm pretty sure Ultrix was UFS, but I'm not 100% positive. Anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Thanks in advance Reuben A. Popp Ultrix is based on 4.2BSD and uses UFS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP! Filesystem EMPTY after upgrade from 4.11 to 6.1
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:06:38 -, Sven Hazejager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! I have quite a big problem here I've upgraded my FreeBSD 4.11 to 6.1. Basically, I did a newfs of / and /usr and reinstalled from scratch. That worked. Rebooted in 6.1 single user mode, mounted /, /usr and /usr/home. The latter I did not touch and I need to save that partition. /usr/home had all the files it needed to have. PROBLEM: mount said soft-updates were not set on /usr/home. So I did umount /usr/home, tunefs -n enable /usr/home, mount /usr/home again... EMPTY What has gone wrong? I did fsck (in read-only), no problems, rebooted the system, did tunefs -n disable, still no luck. I really need those files guys... Please help urgently. Many thanks, Sven Hazejager 4.11 uses UFS1, 6.1 UFS2, there might be some conflict there... Try using stellar phoenix BSD, it can recover data, before you start messing around and destroy stuff... It's not free, but there's a free trial... http://www.stellarinfo.com/download/download_form.php?sid=35 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem using tags, not folders?
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:40:06 -, Kyrre Nygard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Just a wild thought here ... After noticing how much simpler it is using tags, for instance with my bookmarks at http://del.icio.us -- compared to hours of frustration trying find the right combination of folders and sub folders in my Firefox' bookmarks.html, I was wondering if the same approach could be used to arrange the UNIX filesystem hierarchy, from the root and up. This is just a radical thought, not yet an idea even -- but if somebody would be willing to think with me -- maybe we could make a big change. All the best, Kyrre I suppose it could work, then again, folders also work, and having tags would basicly be the same as having folders. I don't really see any advantage... I believe microsoft is planning something like this for their new filesystem, winfs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: release 6.1
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:49:42 -, mehmet gogebakan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would like to install 6.1-RELEASE to my computer , configuration is: 128 MB SDRAM LG cdrom 52x 8 MB Grafic card 40 gb hd p3 800 mhz processor azza motherboard could you please tell me whether this configuration is suitable, if not tell me the minimum configuration it should be.. thanx ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I prepared the following computer for my brother a while ago: AMD K-7-2 300 MHz (super socket 7, i586 with some i686 features) 128 MB RAM 32 MB Graphic card The system runs on FreeBSD 6.0 (system demands for 6.1 didn't change alot, if they changed at all) with Fluxbox as the window manager and XFCE4-panel to provide a windows-like panel. I see alot of computers, and this one actually runs faster then most pentium 4 computers with windows xp. And not to forget, jus as easy, if not easyer... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reducing the size of /
the /usr/ports/distfiles dir are the source files you downloaded while installing ports. You can safly empty the whole directory You can delete /boot/kernel.old if the new kernel is working /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs can be safly deleted /usr/ports/INDEX-5 can be deleted, it is used for searching ports (make search name=) and some portmanagers, yopu might want to keep it... You can delete /usr/obj You might want to delete /usr/src, if your not planning to update often that is... If you don't install/upgrade alot of ports, you can delete the ports tree On Fri, 12 May 2006 16:28:45 -, bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, Most of the files that are large seems to be located in /usr/ports/ distfiles/ What will be the effect of deleting some of these files ? root:abcdef 18:14 ~ # find -x / -size +1 -print /boot/kernel/kernel /boot/kernel.old/kernel /root/tmp/dcc.tgz /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_5_3_RELEASE /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_5_3_0_RELEASE /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_5_4 /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:. /usr/ports/INDEX-5 /usr/ports/distfiles/emacs-21.3.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/gettext-0.13.1.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg/X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg/X11R6.7.0-src3.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg/X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg/X11R6.8.1-src3.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg/X11R6.8.2-src1.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg/X11R6.8.2-src3.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/bdb/db-4.3.29.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/ezm3/ezm3-1.2-src.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/gettext-0.14.1.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/perl-5.8.6.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/apache21/httpd-2.1.2-alpha.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/apache21/httpd-2.1.3-alpha.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/apache21/httpd-2.1.4-alpha.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/python/Python-2.4.tgz /usr/ports/distfiles/python/Python-2.4.1.tgz /usr/ports/distfiles/python/Python-2.4.2.tgz /usr/ports/distfiles/gettext-0.14.4.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/gettext-0.14.5.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/perl-5.8.7.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/apache2/httpd-2.0.54.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/bind-9.3.2.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/perl-5.8.8.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/clamav-0.88.1.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/mysql-4.1.18.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/clamav-0.88.2.tar.gz /usr/ports/distfiles/mysql-4.1.19.tar.gz /usr/ports/INDEX.db /usr/ports/INDEX-5.db /usr/ports/INDEX /usr/ports/INDEX-6 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/libcc_int.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/libcc_int.a /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/kernel /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /var/db/mysql/ibdata1 /var/db/mysql/ib_logfile0 /var/db/mysql/ib_logfile1 /var/named/var/log/dns.log.0 /var/amavis/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist Thks again. Le 12 mai 06 à 18:20, Bill Moran a écrit : bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have three partitions on my server and would like to reduce the size of / because I am getting quite full ! Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ar0s1a3.8G2.8G668M81%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ar0s1d 60G1.9G 53G 3%/home What are the places I could start looking in to delete not so usefull files, knowing that I am syncing using portsnat (and previously cvsup). Try installing pkg_cutleaves port and see if it can help you clean up unneeded ports. Also, consider trimming down your log files in / var/log. You can also use the du -hd1 / trick to narrow down where all the space is being used. Depending on what's installed on the server, however, I doubt you'll be able to free up much of that space. --Bill Moran MAL: Hell, this job I would pull for free. ZOE: Can I have your share? MAL: No. ZOE: If you die, can I have your share? MAL: Yes. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ Gregober --- PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem installing FreeBSD 6.0
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:34:44 -, User Gandalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.0 on a regular x86 PC. I'm using the official install disk. It tells me that there are no CD/DVD drives are detected. I have a Pioneer DVD writer (DVR-110D). That has ATAPI interface and I booted the installer from it... I also tried to install the system using a passive ftp connection. It start downloading the base distribution, and I get messages like: pid 125 (cpio), uid 0 inumber 514 on /: out of inodes Unfortunately, I cannot run any commands on the emergency terminal because there are no commands to execute at all. Can you help me please? Did you do a custom newfs? What's you partition layout? What did you install (only the bare base? or also additional distributions/packages) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd install on an i386
I have downloaded the 6.1rc1 iso. I dont mind downloading the release candidate compared to the mainstream because i have been using linux for about 4 months and know my way around. I have to do the following, 1) install freebsd(on a UFS file system) and dual boot it with windows XP(on fat32 not ntfs). Can freebsd bootmanager do this by itself?? 2) I use an adsl modem though ethernet card, i used to set it up as eth0 in linux. It requires no password or user name. How do i do this in freebsd. Also is there a journalized filesystem and locate command in freebsd?? Regards Ashok The FreeBSD boot manager works great, it will automagicly detect your partitions and allow you to boot them. Does you ADSL modem act as router? Locate works the same as in Linux: Update you database, type: periodic weekly to update it them just type locate foobar Also take a look at /etc/locate.rc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opinion please on quick and dirty
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:53:23 -, Low Kian Seong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Not really a question, rather a plea of opinion. I looked around for a zope howto on FreeBSD but found none, so i wrote my own, and I want to contribute the docs back, but before that can anyone interested please have a look at it and tell me what you think ? The guide is a quick and dirty on how to get zope installed and running on your FreeBSD box. Thanks in advance. It would help you could show me the howto ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting problems
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:46:24 -, boy red [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have so far installed freeBSD OS and set up the accounts but im having some problems. it just takes me 2 a black DOS type screen and i dont know how 2 get in. by getting in i mean that it doesnt take me to the place where i actually start using the computer. please help. If your looking for a quick gui setup, try this: first go to root, do this by typing: su enter your root password. then type: pkg_add -r gnome2 exec csh gdm This will install ad start the gnome graphical user interface, to automaticly start it when FreeBSD starts, type(as root) ee /etc/ttys Scroll down a few lines and you'll see this line: ttyv9 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm off secur replace xdm with gdm and replace off with on. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager Opinions
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:48:10 -, Huy Ton That [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a general question; not sure if it belongs in questions but let me know otherwise. I'm currently using gnome2 as my desktop environment on RC 6.1but it is a little dry; What are you all using out there and any reasons as to behind the decision and such. Fluxbox: Does exactly what I want it to do: manage windows It runs fast and stable... use x11-wm/fluxbox-devel and not x11-wm/fluxbox The development version is more stable, the only reason it's still a development version is the lack of documentation... I used gnome when I starting out with FreeBSD a few years back, and it worked pretty well to, bit easyer... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DMA TIMEOUT
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:57:58 -, Wil Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you use a 80- or 40-ATA cable? If you've configured your drives to do UATA-66 or faster then FreeBSD (or any other OS for that matter) will crash if you connect a second drive... It's an 80 wire. I have two drives on nearly all of my machines and never had an issue with crashing until just recently. Started in 5.4, gone in 6.1-PRE, back in 6.1-RC. It doesn't happen alot though under 6.1-RC. But under 5.4 it was about every 8 hours on average. So in one sense 6.1 is still saving my arsh. -- Wil Hatfield I suspect some kind of hardware problem, and not a software problem... If you can, boot into another OS, preferbly windows, since it will crash on just about anything, you can use your swap partition to install it... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DMA TIMEOUT
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:53:57 -, Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 07:47, Wil Hatfield wrote: I had a similar situation under 6.0. My secondary drive would throw DMA read errors at bootup, adding several minutes to the boot process, so I ran it in PIO mode. The upgrade to 6.1 solved it, both drives work fine as DMA now. Looks like the DMA errors are back in 6.1-RC with ATA or at least similar DMA errors. The new one froze my machine with an error like Error while performing DMA_WRITE command. A new twist to the WRITE_DMA Timeouts of 5.4. I am starting to think that they aren't going to get the ATA issues all worked out anytime soon so they are changing the errors. ;-) And of course no automatic reboot on panic. Do you have a backtrace? Did you use a 80- or 40-ATA cable? If you've configured your drives to do UATA-66 or faster then FreeBSD (or any other OS for that matter) will crash if you connect a second drive... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow floppy operation
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:50:51 -, Maxim Vetrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've not used floppy in my notebook for a while, then when I did, I found that it worked very slowly :-) Here is the stats: dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 2880+0 records in 2880+0 records out 1474560 bytes transferred in 607.571848 secs (2427 bytes/sec) ... Notebook is a Sharp Mebius PC-MJ730P, system is 6.0-RELEASE, compiled from sources. I don't know where to dig. Any suggestions are welcome. Regards, Muxas Floppy's FreeBSD don't go well together, it's slow and kernel panics aren't rare... The emulators/mtools seems to be a nice wrapper for floppy writing... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network bridge with IPFW, can't get it working
Here's the situation: I work at a computer repair shop, as we all know viruses, ad-ware and other mal-ware is a huge problem in the windows world, and a lot of people come to us to have their pc's cleaned up. Some of those programs spread themselves actively, or are used as zombie computers, which is somewhat of a problem for us because it can infect other PCs on the net, also our ISP (temporarily) shut us down some time ago for security reasons. We have a firewall on our router, but it only blocks incoming traffic from the net, which makes life a bit easyer because we don't have to open up ports for all kind of programs all the time. Since we more or less need internet on infected PC's (to download virus-scanners, updates, etc.), I'm trying to setup a bridge with a firewall (IPFW), which should separate filter any bad traffic before it goes to the internet. Problem is, it doesn't work(which is secure, but not quite what I intended). The bridge works fine, if I shut down IPFW (or tell IPFW to allow everything) I have network access, so no problems there... If I scan for DHCP servers, It finds the server and DNS, but doesn't get an IP-adress (?!) for some reason, no matter what I do... My rc.firewall is attached, I made it as simple as possible, complexity and spiffy features can always be added later, let's get the thing working first... I would really appreciate it if someone looked over it, there are probably errors in there. What the REAL problem is, is that I'm a real novice at firewalls, and some things really confuse me, more specifically: - The 'bridged' keyword, does it HAVE to be added to every rule? or is it just recommended? or just specific rules? - Which ports do I need to open? I think I have all I need now (DHCP, DNS, http, https, ping), maybe there's some hidden port I forgot? - Should I use PF? (Is it easyer for a novice?) - Should I just setup a separate LAN? Bridging seems simpler, but doesn't seem to be very common/well documented... I don't think it matters, but just in case: I'm using two 3Com 3C905B-TX NIC's (xl) My uname -a is: FreeBSD filtershit.ictwerkplaats.org 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Feb 22 12:47:58 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FILTERSHIT i387 rc.firewall Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accesing BSD disk under windows
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:01:21 -, Michael Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:14:43 +0100 (CET), you wrote: Hello, I found an old disk (24 Mo!) and I know I installed BSD on it... years ago. How can I read this disk under windows XP pro? Thank you for your help. Best regards, Nicolas BOUTIER FFS File System Driver for Windows http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FFS Drive crashes all the time, causing BSOD's and reboots, and doesn't properly read disks (sometimes files are marked as corrupt while they are not). I can't find any other program maybe cygwin has ffs/ufs read support? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD handbook.
It's /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile so: cvsup /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile should work, although you'll need to set a server in the supfile first... The source will be put in /usr/doc/ On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:21:27 -, Iantcho Vassilev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use one of the supplied cvs-up files(/usr/local/share/example/cvsup - i think) On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can I get the sgml #sources# of the FreeBSD handbook? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wake-on-LAN won't work if FreeBSD/Linux shuts down the system...?
You ask such a question without saying anything about what NIC you are using? Forgot to mention that I tried about 5 diffrent NIC's, and 3 or 4 diffrent pc's to... Sorry about that... I've thought about shutting the machine down with acpiconf to, but since I'm using older systems, which don't have ACPI, I can't use that, I can try experimenting with a newer system though... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: forum software / hosting
1) Which forum software runs on FreeBSD? The Operating system doesn't matter, for most forums the webserver (apache, caudium etc.) needs to have certain modules loaded (php, asp, etc.) and/or a database server(mysql, bdb, etc.). Check the program's site to see what is needed, php and mysql are the most popular at the moment... 3) Is anyone familiar with web forum software? Can you point me to any of: I personly like phpBB, it's been in development for quite some time and has quite a bit of features and good support.ls/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wake-on-LAN won't work if FreeBSD/Linux shuts down the system...?
I'm trying to get WoL working, and actually works quite well as long as windows shuts down the system. However, when FreeBSD or Linux shuts down my system, it won't work, and if I manually turn on the system and shut it down again (even before POST is done) WoL will work again(!?!?) I've tried shutting down my system in every way I could think of, but it doesn't seem to matter... I've been googling for hours on this and didn't get alot wiser, does anyone have any experience or solution for this? Thank you ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
Windows almost runs everything Quite the opposite, try running some application from a few years back on windows 200 or XP, big chance it won't work. Unix has not matured yet to compete with Microsoft. Yeah, let's just forget that UNIX had stuff like network support before windows even existed... Windows has a few edged on Unix, DirectX for example, but on many points UNIX is really in the lead, the fact that you can't get a driver for some specific card doesn't have anything do to with maturing, but with commerce, Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to make drivers for their OS, FreeBSD is non-profit and can't afford such things... Windows has crap driver management, where you can simply use the ICH driver for just about all Intel integrated sound chips, while you have to get(download) a different driver for all the different chips on windows... Who has matured? Unix community simply did not get their act together and try to build an OS for the masses. The main argument for Unix is it is Free, but compatibility and upgrade paths are different issues. Upgrading is a pain on windows, upgrading from 98 to 2000 more or less needs a format and clean install, while on FreeBSD you have much more flexibility, so you can upgrade much easy er. Let's not talk about the windows update site, and 15 reboots required.. Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user friendly GUI. With Windows on the other hand, you *HAVE* to do things as the Microsoft programmers envisioned and liked things, and lacks a lot of flexibility that FreeBSD does have, which makes FreeBSD for the masses, it doesn't matter if your an average end-luser, or a nerd, or whatever, everyone can do what they want the way they want to do it, you really don't have that kind of flexibility with windows. Everyone should use whatever they prefer to use, but there a couple of very good arguments in favor of FreeBSD, and while there are also arguments in favor of windows they are fewer... Say whatever you want, but the Unix permission system is better than Window's, it much more simple and elegant, which means less headache's, less mistakes and more security. The same goes for window's configuration, the registry, it's not a bad idea, but horribly failed, now you have a huge file with a lot of data, half of it redundant, and the worst is that it's undocumented. FreeBSD simply has a set of configuration files, mostly in /etc and /usr/local/etc most of them have a man page, and an example file in /usr/share/examples/etc This again is simpler, which, again, means less headaches, less mistakes and better security, performance etc. There are tons of examples like this, the fact that windows XP is 1.3 GB in size (Minimal!) is enough to know that windows is loaded with complicated shit, while the much simpler and elegant approach in FreeBSD works better. It's same as physics or biology really, I came across this quote recently: If you encounter a formula more that a quarter of a page long, then forget it, nature doesn't make things that complicated. Nature has been In development for billions of years, and learned that simplicity is the key, why do anything different with computers? Windows does... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD vs Linux
Dick Davies = Sorry for sending you this mail twice, accidently pressed enter...(shoudn't eat and write e-mails at the same time...) So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. There's a very big dump of unmaintained software, whenever I want to play an old classic game like cc, x-com or even system shock 2(which is from '99) I have serious problems, and have to resort to emulation software (which is quite different from compat4x for example, which is compatibility and not emulation) I've never had a problem with old software on FreeBSD, there are probably many but much less. Have you ever brought 4.x up to 6.x? It doesn't sound like it. Nope, but I've been reading this mailing list long enough to know it's a real pain, but I'm quite sure it is possible. Note that I used much easy er and not easy There are tools to solve this for windows, and there has been for a long time. Yet another third-party hack? Try updating 200 FreeBSD boxes, then try the same with a decent imaging system for windows. Shell script...? Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user friendly GUI. Then it isn't for the masses. Deal with it. This really wasn't my point, what I tried to say was that UNIX isn't the big user-unfriendly beast some people like you to believe, and that it can serve as user-friendly desktop just as well as Windows can (MacOS is a good example of this) It's also very outdated and has been reinvented several times. RBAC, SeLinux and MAC would indicate it's not flexible enough for most people. Not flexible enough for some people that is, not most, every system has it's ups and downs, and the standard permissions work for just about all desktop PCs and most hobby-servers That's not in itself a good thing. As I understand it, the registry is a central place for storing configuration details. More or less, however, it sucks, open regedit and browse through it and you'll know what I mean, names are cryptic and non-descriptive, the hierarchy doesn't make sense, and worst, it's undocumented.. Which means that hacking the registry is something similair to hacking sendmail.cf Editing ten diffrent files to change one thing is easyer, quicker and leads to less heacache then changing something in the registry... Have a look at things like Solaris SMF and you realise that rcNG isn't as good as it could be either. Never used Solaris so I can't say anything about their SMF, a (very) quick glance reminded me of linux... Anyway, rc isn't perfect, but it works for me, it atleast makes sense... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow 2d performance in X / opera / nvidia drivers
Don't see any XOrg log file, you forgot to attatch it? And what is Xinerama, i thought it was a window manager like KDE or gnome...? Try loading from the open-source driver, or generic vga or vesa, will that improve preformance? You said problems started to occur with Opera 8 and later, did you try using opera 7.x or 6.x? it those work alright I think opera support would be the best place to be On 12/01/06, Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2006 04:25 am, Joseph Kerian wrote: On 1/11/06, Martin Tournoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/01/06, Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *many helpful attachments snipped* I've been having terrible 2d performance with opera (linux-opera and native 8.51 and 9.0) using the nvidia drivers. When I windowshade it and then restore it there is a sizeable delay while it redraws the window. If I rapidly shade and restore the window my idle CPU time goes to 0% and mp3 playback will occassionally skip. The problem first started when Opera 8 was released, I hoped that further releases would address it but so far that has not been the case. Any suggestions for a fix welcome. (Yes, I have been seeking support on opera.com but this feels like a FreeBSD mis-configuration of some sort on my end. :) You might try turning the twinview of, it takes up heaps of resources on my machine, then again, your machine has 300% more RAM and clockspeed, so it should be able to handle it fine Try using freebsd AGP, the nvidia should work better but you might want to try it anyway... The other useful file for this might be your Xorg log. Which window manager do you use, I noted that KDE can be really, really slow even on newer machines (Krap Desktop Enviorment) *bites the troll* Is this problem ONLY with opera? or with other applications to? if you have another QT application you might want try how that runs. Also check you QT version, maybe it's ancient? Did you try using both the static/shared QT versions? If not, it might make a diffrence. I haven't had this problem at all with Opera on the ports KDE, using a far inferior nvidia card. I have had a bit of shared library wierdness, but Opera simply refused to run until I fixed that. If this is a PCI-Express card, note the discussion of 3d performance here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=59981 Well, I think I may have found the problem but can't seem to find a fix to test my theory. Xorg is loading Xinerama and I've found some noise via google that there is a 'nvidia-xinerama' that is faster than the native 'xorg-xinerama'. I've tried disabling xinerama in my Xorg conf file but it loads anyways. Attached is my xorg.log -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow 2d performance in X / opera / nvidia drivers
On 10/01/06, Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gimpy# uname -a FreeBSD gimpy.tcbug.org 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #9: Fri Jan 6 20:26:44 CST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GIMPY i386 dmesg attached Xorg config attached Kernel config attached I've been having terrible 2d performance with opera (linux-opera and native 8.51 and 9.0) using the nvidia drivers. When I windowshade it and then restore it there is a sizeable delay while it redraws the window. If I rapidly shade and restore the window my idle CPU time goes to 0% and mp3 playback will occassionally skip. The problem first started when Opera 8 was released, I hoped that further releases would address it but so far that has not been the case. Any suggestions for a fix welcome. (Yes, I have been seeking support on opera.com but this feels like a FreeBSD mis-configuration of some sort on my end. :) -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might try turning the twinview of, it takes up heaps of resources on my machine, then again, your machine has 300% more RAM and clockspeed, so it should be able to handle it fine Try using freebsd AGP, the nvidia should work better but you might want to try it anyway... Which window manager do you use, I noted that KDE can be really, really slow even on newer machines (Krap Desktop Enviorment) Is this problem ONLY with opera? or with other applications to? if you have another QT application you might want try how that runs. Also check you QT version, maybe it's ancient? Did you try using both the static/shared QT versions? If not, it might make a diffrence. Don't post your dmesg again please, it makes me drool which makes my keyboard dirty.. 95 gig SCSI HDD *drool* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laughing-out-loud
Wrong mailinglist, perhaps, but glad you send it anyway... Might actually go in my mail signature On 06/12/05, Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2005/12/6, Uncle Deejy-Pooh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Windows: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? Oughtn't to post this here, I know, but this is very funny ! Congratulations upon making me laugh on a wet, damp, Tuesday in December. Seasons Greetings to all... Deej I shouldn't get any credits for this, it's not mine, I just found it on the net... Sometimes Internet still offers interesting stuff, doesn't it? ;-) -- Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal www.beansidhe.ch Windows: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spontaneous reboots/ what causes these in general?
You might want to check if your power cables are all firmly and properly connected, both those on the outside and inside. You can also try running from a live-cd, or another harddisk with another installation and see if the problem still occurs, if it does, you know it's a hardware problem and not software... Replace the power supply, maybe it's broken.. My experience is that checking for hardware problems before software problems is the fastest way to fix something like this (example: a few weeks back I spent a hour getting my floppy drive to work only to discover the power cable wasn't connected, DUH!) On 05/12/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:04:05AM -0800, Rob wrote: The idea of running Mozilla or Firefox from a terminal was a very good one. I am getting an error message: (Gecko:40685) Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) I will run that by one of the mozilla.or lists. That's harmless. But I am very curious what causes FreeBSD to reboot immediately? Hardware problems, generally. Search the archives for extensive discussion. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel panic because I pulled a floppy?
It happens, I've experienced quite some problems with floppy's and FreeBSD 5.4 and 6.0 anyway, if you mount a floppy, pull it out and unmount it the kernel might panic, if the floppy if reading writing and you pull it out the kernel might panic, if you mount a floppy which is damaged or has a damaged filesystem the kernel might panic I think i've only seen FreeBSD crach about six times in the year I'm using it, all of those were with floppy problems... My advice: Save all your work before you do anything with a floppy Don't do anything with a floppy on critical machines Think before you act when working with a floppy It sucks, I know, I always use a windows machine when I need to write or read something on a floppy. Using windows instead of freebsd because it's better at something. . . . . . . scary. . . On 05/12/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:37:23AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 12/4/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this true? If so, it would be the very first Unix that I've seen crash from this kind of user-mistake. Turns out it's pretty hard to fix. Well, all I know is that it does happen on Linux, Solaris... I don't recall seeing it on HP-UX... I've popped floppies on those OSs before without incident when I went back to the directory. Luckily it's avoidable, just a little disappointing given FreeBSD's rock-solid reputation. OK. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't reboot
does the halt command work? and the shutdown command? On 05/12/05, Benjamin Sobotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! The messages seem fine to me. However, I have no clue why it doesn't reboot. :) Ben On Monday 05 December 2005 03:59, Jose Borquez wrote: I attempted to reboot my pc using FreeBSD 5.4 and it appears to begin the process of rebooting and then I get the following message. After this message it just hangs and I can't do anything to reboot it. Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...done Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 0 0 0 done No buffers busy after final sync Does anyone have any suggestions on what I need to check or what the problem is? Thank you in advance, Jose ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DualBoot
Dual-boot is always a bit of a risk to install, backup your important data first... I have good experiences with the GAG bootmanager, which can be installed as a port sysutils/gag, and the website is http://gag.sourceforge.net/ You can just create a boot floppy, and either save the config on the floppy or the MBR, it simple and easy, unlike lilo or grub On 04/12/05, martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Albritton wrote: How viable is it to install FreeBSD along side WinXP? (Dual Boot) Also, can the BSD MBR be removed once it's installed? I've tried FIXMBR with the WinXP CD and it didn't work sigh Any suggestions? --- Mike Albritton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you don't have to install fbsd's mbr at all. you could use win nt/xp boot manager. but fot that to work you would need to create a boot sector image to boot fbsd. i've achieved it with software called bootpart. or you can use grub. btw, my winxp stopped working after i tried to install 2nd installation of fbsd -- i had 5.4 and i installed 6.0. most unfortunately, fdisk shuffled partitions and my grub stopped working properly. i managed to fix it by hand (good old norton disk editor) and everything works fine but winxp -- i got a message saying something like it cannot load hal file or something. :-(( martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel panic because I pulled a floppy?
mtools, hmm, might want to check that one out Ok, stupid question perhaps, but what is top-posting, I'm new to the whole mailling list stuff, so if you can explain a bit I won't do it anymore On 06 Dec 2005 10:12:40 -0500, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't top-post, please. Martin Tournoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My advice: Save all your work before you do anything with a floppy Don't do anything with a floppy on critical machines Think before you act when working with a floppy Using the mtools port is a lot easier. It uses the Windows model of separate devices instead of mounting the floppy into a unified filesystem tree, so it avoids the kernel interaction with the mount point. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DualBoot
On 06/12/05, spen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check this out for multi-boot OS: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER particularly 9.10. How can I use the Windows NT loader to boot FreeBSD? so if you choose to edit the boot.ini of windows XP system file you will just have to copy from freebsd /boot/boot1 to some file and then just add it to your boot.ini. It works just fine to my laptop. Whatever works for you, the downside of this is that the config file is saved on the filesystem, not the MBR, so if you do the right thing and remove windows from your PC then you'll have to get another bootmanager anyway ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DualBoot
-- Forwarded message -- From: spen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06-Dec-2005 16:16 Subject: Re: DualBoot To: Martin Tournoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever works for you, the downside of this is that the config file is saved on the filesystem, not the MBR, so if you do the right thing and remove windows from your PC then you'll have to get another bootmanager anyway hadn't thought of that, that's a drawback.. but only in case you remove windows and install some other os, am I right? I had trouble with the dual boot OS before editing the windows boot.ini I have 2 partitions on my laptop --on the first i've installed fbsd WITH the bootMNG (grub) and on the second partition i post-installed winXP. winXP overwrote the mbr and grub did not work. So when the machine booted only winXP started and I had no option to log to my fbsd..that's why i edited the boot.ini To use grub now should I edit the conf file of grub? thank you for the suggestion --spen-- Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DualBoot
Forwarded Well, not entirly, If windows craches, and you to reinstall you'll also need to reinstall the boot manager, not much work, but still... Also, there's a small change of the windows filesystem going bad on the wrong location (where your boot manager is located) and you won't be able to boot into anything... I have no idea how grub actually works, you probably need to run an installer program or boot from a floppy/cd to install it, check the grub documentation On a sidenote, windows(all versions) always overwrite your MBR, without asking or even mentioning it, that, among others, is a good reason to install windows first, and whatever other OS next... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spontaneous reboots/ what causes these in general?
On 06/12/05, Rob Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:19:44 + Martin Tournoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to check if your power cables are all firmly and properly connected, both those on the outside and inside. You can also try running from a live-cd, or another harddisk with another installation and see if the problem still occurs, if it does, you know it's a hardware problem and not software... Replace the power supply, maybe it's broken.. My experience is that checking for hardware problems before software problems is the fastest way to fix something like this (example: a few weeks back I spent a hour getting my floppy drive to work only to discover the power cable wasn't connected, DUH!) On 05/12/05, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:04:05AM -0800, Rob wrote: The idea of running Mozilla or Firefox from a terminal was a very good one. I am getting an error message: (Gecko:40685) Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) I will run that by one of the mozilla.or lists. That's harmless. But I am very curious what causes FreeBSD to reboot immediately? Hardware problems, generally. Search the archives for extensive discussion. Kris Hi Martin, This machine is an HP zd8000 laptop, so I am kind of stuck with the hardware. I went to www.zd7000forums.com and found that people are even having lots of problems on Windows with this laptop. I don't think it has anything to do with FreeBSD. I upgraded the BIOS to the latest so I will see if that stops it. Actually, my problems are not big when compared to other people. Sincerely, Rob Lytle -- -- http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 A SETI-like Search for Intelligent Life in Central Pa. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's probably some sort of mechanical failure, bad components, wiring, connectors, whatever, maybe the HP site or helpdesk will shed some light on it, although componies often tend to ignore problems like this... You can open your laptop, it's basicly just a folded computer, even though laptop's are small, thew number of screws that keep 'em together is huge and it can be a problem to put things back together again properly, which screw goes where and you probably will end up with some leftover screws to(which shoudn't be a problem) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
