Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In
[BCCed others] On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Don Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers accurate? These numbers represent the number of people that have installed a program to report usage, and are almost completely uncorrelated with actual usage rates. There needs to be a big warning at the top of these very misleading reports. Also, the massive spam to many different lists is not ideal. Any guess at actual usage numbers would be many orders of magnitude larger, and PC-BSD would be a rounding error to other BSDs used in large hosting environments (nothing against the great work being done by PC-BSD, just a fact based on desktop vs server focus). I continue to believe that sending out these numbers which massively undercount all operating systems is very counter-productive, but I've said that before. If you want to get better numbers you could try to survey all web servers on the internet, identify the host operating systems by server responses, tcp/ip timing characteristics, or other heuristics. You could alternatively mine google analytics / webserver log data for large websites if you want client numbers, or countless other data sources that would give you far more data than this self reporting mechanism, and with a much better sample than the very biased mechanism used for these numbers. - Murray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
Hi Marc, can you please post these individually to different lists next time rather than one massive cross-post? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? Yes I should think that is pretty obvious. =) I would expect that Yahoo! alone has ~2 orders of magnitude more FreeBSD servers than what is represented there. These numbers have basically no correlation with the number of installed instances of these operating systems. Anyone interested in this effort should submit patches to optionally install/enable this functionality in the installer of the various operating systems - Murray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Article on implementing UFS journaling on desktop PCs (updated)
I'm just getting caught up on my -doc mail. This is a great article. Thanks for writing it up! - Murray On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just updated my recent article on journaling for desktops: http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/gjournal-desktop/article.html Main differences: - The abstract is somewhat shorter - Separate providers for journal and data are needed only when the partition to be journaled is not empty. This is now clarified in the Understanding journaling section. - A new section Journaling new partitions was added (explains how to use a single provider for data / journal on an empty/new partition and how to set the size of the journal) - A further reading section was added with a few links related to journaling. - Various other small fixes in content / markup. Please review this new revision and send me your comments. Thanks Manolis ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: New design
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 05:36:08PM -0700, Micah wrote: For you it's a white background. For me in konqueror is's a pale blue (my default window color) and grey in Firefox (again, my default browser color). By the looks of the rounded buttons, a white background is expected but not provided by the site. This has been fixed in CVS btw, and will go live shortly. - Murray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 5.1, Cups problem
Hi Dr. Hazelton, CUPS is one of over 10,000 optional ports for FreeBSD, and you are correct in assuming that it is not always tested by the port maintainers, FreeBSD developers, or FreeBSD CDROM vendors. After all the excellent investigation you have done on this issue, we should make an addition to the printing chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook to better document this. Can you please submit some text with send-pr(1) so that one of us can incorporate this into the Handbook. That would do far more to help other users than a mailing list post that will get lost with time. Thanks, - Murray On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 05:50:49PM -0700, Dr. Lyman Hazelton wrote: Indeed, we have a big problem getting CUPS to work with FreeBSD 5.1. The root of the problem is in the fact that it does not install properly! (I think this is completely the responsibility of the folks at FreeBSDMall, who clearly didn't test the system they sell in the box!) I suppose I should have (and still should) written all the steps I had to do to get it working. So, here's a list of what I remember having to do, and why: 1) The software expects to be installed in /usr/sbin, but FreeBSD's version puts it in /usr/local/sbin. If that isn't in your path, none of the command line stuff will work, and this includes even starting cupsd or using lpadmin. 2) CUPS expects its config files and other stuff to be in /etc/cups, but FreeBSD puts that stuff in /usr/local/etc/cups. This means that even if you make the path correct for finding the program, it won't find any of its control or configuration files and will die almost instantly if you start it from a shell. 3)CUPS expects its spool file directory to be in /var/spool/cups, but FreeBSD5.1 puts similar stuff below /var/spool/output, so you might want to continue this philosophy by creating /var/spool/output/cups. Neither of these dirs exist or are created when you install cups. You can decide which one of them you want to use and create it... but don't forget to give it and its sub parts (I'll talk about them shortly) the proper owner:group (either root:daemon or daemon:daemon, your choice). You'll need a sub-dir called tmp with the same owner attribs below where ever you create the cups dir. 4) Cups requires (even if you aren't using certificates) a sub-dir to the /usr/local/etc/cups dir called certs, and the ownership requirements are the same as in 3, above. If the dir isn't there, cupsd won't get far before dying somewhat ungracefully, and it isn't created by default... you have to do it. 5) The cupsd.conf that comes with the installation isn't aware of any of the above misplacements or that any of this might be missing. Thus, it has to be edited. I've attached the version I am successfully using now to this message. You'll almost certainly have to change it to fit where you decide to put things, but it's a good start. Be aware of the error reporting level parts of this file, as they can help you a lot when you've finally got to the point where you can start the program. You'll want to tone it down later, after things are up and running smoothly, but having it fairly verbose can really help a lot at first. 6) The printers.conf, mime.types, .convs and other .conf files all go in the /usr/local/etc/cups dir. You'll also probably have to create a ppd directory under /usr/local/etc/cups, as well, as I don't believe it got created automagically. 7) If you're using any of the more recent printers (one of mine is an HP deskjet 960c) that isn't in the hpijs add-on to gs, you'll have to go get them and put them into the ppd dir mentioned in step 6. If you get this far and are having trouble figuring out what needs to go where to do this part, let me know and I'll send another message with the specifics of what I did to get it to work. 8) Finally, cups expects its control script file to be in /etc/rc.d, and that it will be named cups.sh If you look hard enough through the documentation, you can find that there is supposed to be a file there called cups.sh.sample that you can edit and rename or copy for your installation to make it work. This is a really idiotic chicken and egg situation, as you can normally only see the documentation to find this out if you can run the cups daemon and get to the web pages at port 631, but you really should start and control the daemon with the shell script. It's almost funny, in a really sadistic way. In any event, you can either search around and find the sample file, edit it and move it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d, or use the one attached here and put it in that dir. Don't forget where you put it... you may want to either edit it or use it later! 9) With all this done, I believe you will be able to do /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh start and the beast should come alive. You can then point your favorite browser at
Re: New name for Floppy disk devices?
Have you read the creating and using floppy disks section of the Handbook? The device name is '/dev/fd0'. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/floppies.html Hope that helps. - Murray On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:12:40PM -0700, Dr. Lyman Hazelton wrote: OK, so sometimes serial devices that one would expect to have names in /dev like sio0 or sio1 are now called cuaa0 or cuaa1 (for reasons beyond my understanding). Now I can see my floppy disk in the dmesg output, but there doesn't appear to be an fdc0 in /dev. Did floppy disk devices get renamed, too, or is it hiding somewhere else, or did it, for some unknown reason, just vanish? I'm trying to create a floppy disk boot pair, and can't write to a device I can't find. Help? -Lyman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serial Ports are there, but not in /dev
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 08:18:58AM -0700, Dr. Lyman Hazelton wrote: However, they don't show up as devices in /dev. Anyone have some idea why the system might not like them, and how I can get them to show up as devices? I have a serial PalmPilot (actually, a Kyocera phone) I'd like to be able to use with KPilot. Well, are you looking for /dev/cua* and /dev/ttyd* or are you looking for /dev/sio*? The latter is not the correct device name. Please see the Handbook chapter on this subject and let us know if you are still having trouble : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serial.html - Murray ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FBSD PowerPak
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 05:41:01AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: As you noted, it's based on 4.6, so the contents are a year old. If you don't mind getting year-old versions of ports, then go for it. The new PowerPak is based on 5.1 and will be shipping in 2 weeks. It includes 10 CDROMs of ports, packages, and distfiles. www.freebsdmall.com - Murray ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reviewers required for simplified Chinese translations ofFreeBSD books
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 10:49:42AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: In addition, they have also translated the handbook, apparently from the paper copy of the second edition. See http://www.ptpress.com.cn/books/Book_Information.asp?BID=10541 for further details. Yes, we announced that on this list (doc@) about a year ago. I worked with them for about 6 months, sent them the artwork for the English edition, etc. Bob Bruce met with Tommy Liu of PT Press in Beijing, and I even got a nice Christmas card out of the deal. ;) The Handbook translation is half as thick as our English version because they used thinner paper. The book is available for approximately 5 USD in Hong Kong and the mainland. If you haven't seen a physical copy I can show you one at BSDCon. - Murray pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
