Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand
คุณประเสริฐ ดีมากครับ ตอบช้าไปหน่อย ว่า ให้ เอา page ที่โชว์ เอาขึ้น เวป แต่ก็ไม่เป็นไรหรอก ต่อไปนี้ ก็รอ คำตอบ สมนึก - Original Message - From: FreeDesktop FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: doi maesalong ; Pirat SRIYOTHA Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: FreeBSD users of Thailand To whom it may concern : We, among the few advanced FreeBSD users of Thailand, have been using FreeBSD, Desktop mode (with the emphasis on Desktop) for quite sometime. As you may know copyright infringement is a concern in countries like Thailand. In order to avoid such problems, we think using FreeBSD will help. Seeing that the latest FreeBSD version, running in desktop mode is quite stable, a few users myself included, have been using it in the office. We would like to expand our user base in Thailand. Particular problems popped up among the newbies when they start to install, ie, unsucessful installation due to incomplete software in the CD disk (cd error) or an error during port installation (can't find dependency files). In addition, due to the majority of users still using low speed modem, this has created a significant hinderance and discouragement when errors occured due to failure to find dependency files (not FreeBSD's fault though). The other problem is the language problem, since we are not an english speaking country, a lot of users have problems with the manual. As a result, we would like to create a setup FreeBSD CD for desktop users similar to those done in with PC-BSD or DragonFly disks. In addition we will try to add thai language instructions in this special distribution. Since we have never taken on this kind of task before, we would like to ask if any party in charge from FreeBSD organization or anyone else has any suggestion regarding a setup disk similar to the above mentioned distros. So we can begin by distributing to the new users in Thailand for now. We hope that they learn to use this easy-use limited version, and with more experience they will grow to use a full FreeBSD user later on. The plan is to include in the CD only OS & the basic application software deemed necessary ( such as apache, php etc.) for starters so they can be up and running FreeBSD. If there are any step-by-step instructions or person from whom we can get some help, we would be grateful. Attached are our captured screens showing what we have been using and doing. There is an on going project, trying to translate the FreeBSD handbook into thai ( http://www.thai-aec.org/misc/handbook/index.html) Although it is a long way to completion. We hope this is compatible with FreeBSD distribution policies. Again, thanks for any advice and information. Regards Mr. Prasert Tuntiwaraporn Bangkok, Thailand 10500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release Date: 6/12/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand
Dear Mr Nicole Thanks for the response. It is very nice that someone from the local academic institution is interested in this particular problem. We willl need all the helps we can get. I am not sure if you see the underlying problems the new users in Thailand encountered. >From the thai webboard ( such as in www.thaibsd.com. This site is run by one of the staff at teacher college in Pitsanulok,Thailand - though it's domain name ends with dot com , this is not a commercial site. it was for the sake of convenience to get the site up quickly. Another site is http://www.thai-aec.org/forum/ ) , we noticed that the newbies faces a lot of problems during installation. Few commonly encountered problems are : 1 CD error ( burned from download iso ) 2 incomplete software ( again error from either during download or during burning CD) . I encountered this problem myself inspite of correct MD5. So common occuring such that I resorted to obtaining the CD by direct ordering from FreeBSD Mall. And yet , I got error from the purchased disk. Perhaps this might be due to my old hardware. 3 Another very common complaint from the webboard is the failure during porting. This is a very common indeed. And this, in my opiniion having been in the same situation before, is very discouraging for the new users indeed. And as you might know, compounding with the slow modem speed most user had in Thailand,this will certainly discourage the new users to persue the FreeBSD route. I do not think this is FreeBSD problem but rather the unfamiliarity of the FreeBSD and porting system on the new users part ( perhaps they do not have latest port ). 4 the root of all problem is our lack goof background in english. What we have in our plan is to have an autorun cd filled with OS & necessary application softwares. Everything is in the CD so that users do not have to download ( only one option to install the software for users to select ie, from CD). One last important thing is to have instruction to the user in Thai language ( we will definitely need someone to help on this ie. writing command ( in shell script or ???) to automate the whole process, since most of us have no experience or know how.) This approach should have the new users up and running quickly without bandwidth problem or missing dependency files. Thanks in advance for the help. We definitely need your help. Regards, Somner Srivisal ps. I am currently living in the US and having been in contact with Khun presert regarding this matter. This proves that "The world is Flat" ( by Thomas Friedman ) - Original Message - From: "Olivier Nicole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:34 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand > Khun Prasert, > > Good initiative, very good idea. > > Well I have more interest in the server use of FreeBSD and obviously I > cannot read Thai, but if I can help... > > Best regards, > > Olivier > Pathumthani > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3 - Release Date: 6/7/2006 > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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