Re: 4.9 minimal install
Troy Settle wrote: ... Once installed, I grab the cvsup package (via FTP of course), which I use to get the ports collection and bring the box up to -STABLE. FWIW, once you've completed the minimal installation from the mini image, you can change your media from CDROM to FTP, and continue on to add other distributions (including the ports collection) and packages (like cvsup, so you can get the ports collection). -- beautiul. exactly what i was asking for. thank you. lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9 minimal install
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: lee slaughter wrote: from mini cd, just for educational purposes. this is known as the base distribution, right? only 123MB. what does one do next? /usr/ports isn't even there. there is no discussion in handbook. thanks. This has been discussed rather extensively, on this list, over the past few days. well, my recollection is that there are always many discussions on installation. there was recently a large thread on exactly what is ON the mini CD, but there are so many permutations on installation. anyway, Troy Settle gave me what I wanted, which i posted to group also. maybe some other poor newcomer will be helped. rant on.. i'm not stupid but i've been trying to get a handle on both the general installation philosophy AND the confiration management (for FBSD) since January sometime. it is very difficult. rant off. What do you *want* to do? What is your purpose for this box? a. to be a repository for my work stuff (java development, notes, ...) b. to learn c. mail, etc. usual stuff d. not a server I'm up for a while, thanks Kevin. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.9 minimal install
from mini cd, just for educational purposes. this is known as the base distribution, right? only 123MB. what does one do next? /usr/ports isn't even there. there is no discussion in handbook. thanks. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
install: kernel config: NIC ?
I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. needless to say, my NIC is not included (as i suppose are many others not included) in hardware notes, i see my device, a 3c905B, requires xl(4) driver. the closest of the six i can choose from is a line that says: NE1000, NE2000,3C503,WE/SMC80xx Ethernet adapters 3C503 requires ed(4) driver question 2: what do i do now? tks. lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Peter Risdon wrote: lee slaughter wrote: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. I haven't seen this documented either, but reckon these are just the drivers that might need to have resources set explicitly to avoid conflicts. Since that means they're all ISA cards, you can generally just delete them all to remove all conflicts. But see below: I suppose it might be clear from inference and maybe I should have thought of it. But a clarifying note in the handbook would help. snip Just carry on. The drivers for PCI-only cards (like yours) don't need to be listed here because resources conflicts don't occur as they used to with mis-configured ISA setups. This section isn't listing _all_ available drivers, just those (for ISA cards) that might have conflicts and/or need arguments to match resource (irq, base address) settings. Just something to this effect in the handbook. again, thanks all. lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:33:25AM -0800, lee slaughter wrote: ...kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. That configuration screen only shows ancient ISA cards that cannot identify themselves to the system. Any modern NIC (either PCI or Cardbus) will be autodetected. Basically you can just plough on reguardless with your install and all of your network interfaces should be picked up. again, thanks everybody. there should be a note to this effect in handbook. how does one submit a sug for handbook? lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:33:25AM -0800, lee slaughter wrote: I'm trying to do a methodical install (for once). 4.9 from a mini CD. 1st thing, when we get to kernel config menu, visual mode, no network devices show up active. In the inactive drivers section i see a little list of only six. question 1: this is hardly a comprehensive list, is it? there's no explanation in the handbook why it is so short. That configuration screen only shows ancient ISA cards that cannot identify themselves to the system. Any modern NIC (either PCI or Cardbus) will be autodetected. Basically you can just plough on reguardless with your install and all of your network interfaces should be picked up. A note to this effect should be in handbook. How do you make sugs to handbook? Or any docs? (I've cc'd freebsd-doc on ths) In fact it might be safe to say that if you pop the hood of your PC and there are _no_ ISA cards then you can skip kernel config step? lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: kernel config: NIC ?
Peter Risdon wrote: lee slaughter wrote: again, thanks everybody. there should be a note to this effect in handbook. The handbook does mention it, sort of. sort of. it alludes to the antiquity if ISA anyway. i'll use send-pr(8) maybe and complain about it. tks. lee http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html section 2.3.2 onwards. PWR. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
incorrect super blockincorrect super block
doing a backup: burncd -f /dev/acd1 data /home/backups/rtfm.lees.20030311.tar.gz fixate mount /dev/acd1 /cdromgives incorrect super block is an iso9660 format expected? where does one look for error messages? thanks. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: incorrect super block
rtfm. sorry. however mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd1 /cdrom gives cd9660: /dev/acd1: Invalid argument ??? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
burncd args
hi. i make a tar.gz backup file. isburncd -f /dev/acd1 data filename fixate the right syntax? is data the correct type? i cannot tell from burncd manpage. thanks. lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burncd args
Danny Pansters wrote: On Friday 12 March 2004 00:04, lee slaughter wrote: hi. i make a tar.gz backup file. isburncd -f /dev/acd1 data filename fixate the right syntax? is data the correct type? i cannot tell from burncd manpage. What you called filename should be the ISO (top of my head, I think the only exception is if you're creating an audio CD with only WAV/AIFF files that go into tracks). So use mkisofs first, then burncd. hmmm. so you can only burn an ISO image onto a CD. not anything else? like UFS or any other format? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: incorrect super block
There is no filesystem support for mounting gzipped tar files as filesystems, so you'll have to use it as a raw device. tar -xzf /dev/acd1 should extract the data. no, i tried it with tar file. it got maybe 20% of way thru with unexpected eof. with tar.gz: tar: /dev/acd1: Cannot read: Input/output error tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now i just want to back up to a cd. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.9
is empty. ??? the other releases are ok. why might this be? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update utility
Bart Silverstrim wrote: I guess what would really help (especially for newer users) is a reference or howto with definitive steps on how to do this, as in a step by step guide or script on how to keep your system up to date after a fresh install and keeping it up to date thereafter...does this exist somewhere? The documentation I've found seems fragmented between binary installs and source installs and port updates versus OS updates and...sorry, just gets confusing sometimes :-) Amen! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
production box: 4.9, 5.1, 5.2+ ???
I hesitate to ask this because it sounds stupid. I went down to the tech book store and bought freeBSD on CD's. it happened to be 5.1. I, a neophyte, assumed it was kosher. I bought it and installed it on 2 machines and pretty much ok so far. Now I've been reading about the STABLE and CURRENT branches and cvsup and all other kinds of keeping up. What I want is production boxs with of course bug fix and security upgrades, but not needing always the latest app releases. I've tried to grok the release engineering and all but I don't get it. I'm going to put freeBSD on 2 other machines as well, but don't know whether to install 4.9, use my 5.1 CD's (and then presumably have to go to 5.2 + ??? to keep up?), 5.2 or what. Not to mention the 2 already installed. I want to keep all 4 machines pretty much in synch. thanks for any clarification i can get on: 1. which is best production version 2. what is best essential upkeep mechanism (not so much for apps but for bug fixes in OS and security fixes/patches on essential stuff like OpenSsh) thanks much... lee ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Email account utilization warning.
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Re: Email account utilization warning. - yes, it's garbage.
doh! Jonathan T. Sage wrote: Heh. are you goofy? :) j/k. apparently. Note that the original sender address on these was spoofed (see also: faked) In actuallity, it is Netsky-D (probably, I'm not opening it). Courtesy of Yahoo! : http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=581e=3u=/nm/20040301/tc_nm/tech_worm_dc So, newbies out there still checking mail on MS systems, don't open .PIF's from this list or anywhere else, they are bad. ~j fbsd_user wrote: Are you goofy, sending an virus alert and then say open an attachment. That's where virus live and get installed from. If you can not put your complete message in the text of the email body then this is not for real and gets deleted along with all the other spam and junk mail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Email account utilization warning. Dear user, the management of Freebsd.org mailing system wants to let you know that, We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your computer may contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and e-mail account safe, please, follow the instructions. For further details see the attach. The Management, The Freebsd.org team http://www.freebsd.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good comments
Simon Barner wrote: Hi, I just bought BSDfree version 5.1 because I had very good comments about your operating system. Our company is planning to use as a NAT server . I want to know where can I take some courses to have at least the basics that it looks to be an awesome operating system. For a production system, the 5.x branch of FreeBSD (sic!) is not quite ready yet, so you should better go with FreeBSD 4.9 (FreeBSD 4.x is the so-called stable branch at the present). If you insist in deploying FreeBSD 5.x, please note that FreeBSD 5.2 is already out. I too bought shrink-wrapped 5.1 CD set from bookstore and now have it running pretty well. I really don't feel like re-installing it already but the implication is that if you (unwittingly) installed a -CURRENT, you need to keep it up, i.e. go today to 5.2, etc. I don't wanna do that. I'm newbie and my box is production-prone and I don't want bleeding edge and too ignorant to be in the -CURRENT branch. So are we recommended to go to 4.9-STABLE? (implying no updates until next -STABLE comes out? What are the dire consequences of staying with 5.1 until 5-STABLE comes out... and not always upgrading? tks. this is a great os and a great support group, btw. lee slaughter ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error in messages.
this reminds this newbie: is there any documentation on freebsd (system) error messages ? Derrick MacPherson wrote: I started seeing this today: Feb 4 07:00:00 mail /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:2:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 2 c 1 5f 0 0 10 0 Feb 4 07:00:00 mail /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:20c0168 asc:11,0 Feb 4 07:00:00 mail /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:2:0): Unrecovered read error sks:80,35 I umounted the disk, dumped it's contents to a spare disk. Can you suggest some tests for this drive, or should I just get it replaced? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
