Re: Error upgrading KDE with portupgrade

2005-10-05 Thread nbco
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 14:36, edward wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have recently upgraded from FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE using
 cvsup. I then upgraded installed ports using portupgrade -a (after
 running make fetchindex and pkgdb -F).
 Worked for most ports.
 But I have a hard time upgrading KDE from 3.3 to 3.4. Some ports in
 the KDE set upgraded OK, but kdebase among others didn't want to
 upgrade from 3.3.0_4 to 3.4.2_2. Tried :
 #portupgrade kdebase
 then
 #portupgrade -p kdebase
 The package itself donloads OK but I get the following at the end of
snip error message
 Any clue what's going on ?
 Thanks for your help.
 Edward

Hi there, 
It seems as if your problems are dealt with in the 
file /usr/ports/UPDATING.  I have pasted the most relevant 
informational messsge here, but there is at least one other entry for 
KDE which postdates this one. Generally, the UPDATING file is my first 
port of call if there are any errors in upgrades.

I hope this helps
.nbco


20050320:
  AFFECTS: users of x11/kde3, x11/kdelibs3, x11/kdebase3,
x11-themes/kdeartwork3, www/akregator, x11-themes/phase,
multimedia/kdemultimedia3
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In KDE 3.4, a number of files were moved between ports, some ports
  were added, one port has been removed and some applications formerly 
available
  in their own ports were incorporated into KDE. This means that you 
will have
  to take some precautions to update your KDE installation. A simple
  portupgrade -a will not work.

  Portupgrade -R kde can fail as well, depending on what parts of KDE 
you
  have currently installed. We therefore recommend sticking to the 
following
  procedure. The procedure requires you to have sysutils/portupgrade 
installed
  and you to be the superuser (or using sudo). We recommend not being 
logged in
  to a KDE session on the machine you're performing the upgrade on. If 
you
  choose to perform the update while being logged in to KDE, expect 
erratic
  behavior and crashes from applications launched until you log out and 
back
  in.

  1.) Delete installed packages which conflict with the updated KDE
  ports.

pkg_deinstall -f kdeartwork-\[0-9\]\* kdebase-\[0-9\]\* \
kdebase-konqueror-nsplugins-\[0-9\]\* kdewebdev-\[0-9\]\* \
kde-\[0-9\]\* akregator\* phase\*

  2.) Now update the remaining KDE ports.

portupgrade -O arts\* kde\* \*kde-i18n\*

  or, if you want to update KDE along with other updated ports:

portupgrade -a

  3.) Reinstall the KDE ports you deleted in step 1.

portinstall -O kdebase kdeartwork kdewebdev

   Changes in detail:

- www/akregator is now included into deskutils/kdepim3.
- x11-themes/phase is now included in x11-themes/kdeartwork3.
- www/konqueror-nsplugins has been removed and is now integrated 
into
  In mDNSResponder 98_1, mdnsd is no longer started by default due to a
  switch to an rc.subr startup script.  To start it, you must add add
  mdnsd_enable=YES to your /etc/rc.conf or other suitable
  configuration file.

20050320:
  AFFECTS: users of x11/kde3, x11/kdelibs3, x11/kdebase3,
x11-themes/kdeartwork3, www/akregator, x11-themes/phase,
multimedia/kdemultimedia3
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In KDE 3.4, a number of files were moved between ports, some ports
  were added, one port has been removed and some applications formerly 
available
  in their own ports were incorporated into KDE. This means that you 
will have
  to take some precautions to update your KDE installation. A simple
  portupgrade -a will not work.

  Portupgrade -R kde can fail as well, depending on what parts of KDE 
you
  have currently installed. We therefore recommend sticking to the 
following
  procedure. The procedure requires you to have sysutils/portupgrade 
installed
  and you to be the superuser (or using sudo). We recommend not being 
logged in
  to a KDE session on the machine you're performing the upgrade on. If 
you
  choose to perform the update while being logged in to KDE, expect 
erratic
  behavior and crashes from applications launched until you log out and 
back
  in.

  1.) Delete installed packages which conflict with the updated KDE
  ports.

pkg_deinstall -f kdeartwork-\[0-9\]\* kdebase-\[0-9\]\* \
kdebase-konqueror-nsplugins-\[0-9\]\* kdewebdev-\[0-9\]\* \
kde-\[0-9\]\* akregator\* phase\*

  2.) Now update the remaining KDE ports.

portupgrade -O arts\* kde\* \*kde-i18n\*

  or, if you want to update KDE along with other updated ports:

portupgrade -a

  3.) Reinstall the KDE ports you deleted in step 1.

portinstall -O kdebase kdeartwork kdewebdev

   Changes in detail:

- www/akregator is now included into deskutils/kdepim3.
- x11-themes/phase is now included in x11-themes/kdeartwork3.
- www/konqueror-nsplugins has been removed and is now integrated 
into
  x11/kdebase3.
- Juk has been split

re vlc 0.8.2 compile errors on 5.4

2005-09-28 Thread nbco
Hi List,
I am having problems compiling vlc 0.8.2 on 5.4.  I can add it as a 
package but when portupgrade or portmanager tries to update it.  I get 
the following compile error:

smb.c: In function `Close':
smb.c:304: error: structure has no member named `close'
gmake[4]: *** [libaccess_smb_plugin_a-smb.o] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/multimedia/vlc/work/vlc-0.8.2/modules/access'
gmake[3]: *** [all-modules] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/multimedia/vlc/work/vlc-0.8.2/modules/access'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/multimedia/vlc/work/vlc-0.8.2/modules'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/vlc/work/vlc-0.8.2'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script 
-qa /tmp/portupgrade87320.59 make
** Fix the problem and try again.


I have tried deinstalling and reinstalling.  I have also tried making 
vlc-devel but I get the same error. Any ideas would be appreciated, as 
this it totally driving me nuts.
Thanks
.nbco
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Re: re vlc 0.8.2 compile errors on 5.4

2005-09-28 Thread nbco
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 19:13, Alan Gerber wrote:
 nbco wrote:
 Hi List,
 I am having problems compiling vlc 0.8.2 on 5.4.  I can add it as a
 package but when portupgrade or portmanager tries to update it.  I
  get the following compile error:

 [Error text snipped]

snip
 The problem occurs within the smb access module of vlc.  Navigate to
 /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc and do a make config to get to the
 options menu, then uncheck the smb module.  Accept the changes and do
 a make install and things will work for you.

 I'm no expert, but I'm guessing that removing the smb functionality
 in this manner will prevent one from directly accessing smb shares
 via the vlc interface.  If you fall into this situation, I'd suggest
 mounting the share via mount_smbfs.

Thanks very much that resolved the issue for me too.
.nbco
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Re: video surveillance with freebsd

2005-09-03 Thread nbco
On Friday 03 June 2005 23:56, vittorio wrote:
 The aim: with up to 4 small cameras connected to a pci board in a
 freebsd 5.4 box, scattered suitably around to guard, surveille a
 seaside resort flat *** remotely ***. The open-source software I'm
 looking for should: 1) manage the pci board  the cameras;
 2) start,trigger a script for, e.g., a gsm connection to transmit
 images to a remote server via ppp  OR start an alarm *** whener a
 motion is detected ***.

 Is there any software in the ports satisfying these requirements?

 Ciao
 Vittorio

Hhmmm I used to have a landlord like that...
.nbco
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Re: Whats up with KCalc?

2005-07-12 Thread nbco
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 14:41, Ean Kingston wrote:
 On July 12, 2005 08:01 am, Igor Robul wrote:
  Parv wrote:
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  
  
  Well, did you try any other calculating software?  grpn, perl, and
  dc gave me 46(.0...) even after asking for a result upto 20
  digits.
  
  Here is a naive guess: kcalc stores the number in such a way that
   it causes the abnormality as above(?).
 
  I have checked KCalc on Mandrake Linux 10.1 (different version of
  KDE) and it gives correct result.

 I just checked it on FreeBSD 5.4 and it gives the correct answer.
 KCalc 1.8 compiled from  port.

Hi,
My Kcalc gives the also gives the incorrect answer ie . 45 + 1 = 
46.00710542735760100185871124. It will correctly add the 
first two numbers together but not subsequent sums, exactly as 
described by the original poster.

I also am using 5.4.  FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #11: Tue May 10 18:36:45 BST 
2005
.nbco
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Re: not-yet-a-newbie : DL (ftp?) iso image help question

2005-07-06 Thread nbco
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 22:48, datora tehnika wrote:
 Hi folks --
snip

 So, I'm trying to DL the ISO images  have been having a very
 frustrating past three days.  Very minor fluctuations in the local
 connection (including power blips) keep wrecking the ISO image DL via
 web browser.  I'd like very much to use ftp (unless there is
 something better?), but have been unable to connect.  Am using
 winsock ftp 95, but all attempts at connection are being refused (at
 main
 ftp.freebsd.org site  various european ftp mirrors).

 What I see as my need:  how do I connect ?  Anon keeps being
 rejected, I have not been able to locate ftp instructions at
 freebsd.org website; only web browser links.  The ftp links (e.g.
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org etc etc) don't work in WSFTP_95.  It is
 recommended that I use FTP software w/ resume function, but no such
 instructions haave I seen.  

Hello there,
To download the iso image, maybe try using filezilla,  a very easy ftp 
doze client. It has reasonable resume functions:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21558

Or maybe get a torrent client such as Shareaza, and get the iso via P2P:
http://www.shareaza.com/

In terms of documentation, the handbook is the best place to start:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO88http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/59-1/books/handbook/


All the best
.nbco

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Re: Linux move to FreeBSD

2005-07-03 Thread nbco
On Sunday 03 July 2005 00:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
snip
 I would like to know if possible how this came about,
 and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider
 symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically
 and even spiritually.

 Best regards

 Mark

Hi there Mark,
Individuals who come onto this list and ask questions which have 
repeatedly been answered, risk being called trolls.  The briefest of 
searches would have explained the answer to your question.:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#DAEMON-NAME


Please don't initiate a discussion about this as this thread 
demonstrates, the issue has been discussed to death:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/076061.html

Many thanks
.nbco
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Re: Adding my CDRW device to k3b

2005-04-14 Thread nbco
On Friday 15 April 2005 00:00, Justin R. Pessa wrote:
 Allo!

 I'm having problems trying to get k3b to recognize my CDRW drive. I
 went to Settings  COnfigure k3b  Devices. When I add
 /dev/acd0 it says Could not find an additional device at /dev/acd0.

snip

 I realize this is probably more a k3b problem than a FreeBSD problem,
 but I feel as though there is something specific to FreeBSD I have
 either missed or am over looking.

Have you tried running k3b as root, if it sees your device as root.  
Then you can change the permissions for the devices or just run it as 
root
hope this helps
.nbco
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Re: Adding my CDRW device to k3b

2005-04-14 Thread nbco
On Friday 15 April 2005 00:08, Justin R. Pessa wrote:
 On Apr 15 12:06AM, nbco wrote:
  On Friday 15 April 2005 00:00, Justin R. Pessa wrote:
   Allo!
  
   I'm having problems trying to get k3b to recognize my CDRW drive.
   I went to Settings  COnfigure k3b  Devices. When I add
   /dev/acd0 it says Could not find an additional device at
   /dev/acd0.
 
  snip
 
   I realize this is probably more a k3b problem than a FreeBSD
   problem, but I feel as though there is something specific to
   FreeBSD I have either missed or am over looking.
 
  Have you tried running k3b as root, if it sees your device as root.

 When I run an X app as root I get:

 Password:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/jstn $ k3b
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified

 k3b: cannot connect to X server :0.0

 I'm not sure how to give root permission to the X session on this
 display. Any thoughts here?

Well, it seems,  you should check your .xserverrc for your X -nolisten 
tcp r :0 settings or chown the raw devices from root to yourself.
.nbco


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Re: Please help if you can

2005-03-05 Thread nbco
On Saturday 05 March 2005 15:21, Chris wrote:
snip
I am wondering if FreeBSD is compatible to all of the
 endless softwares out there that require you to be using a certain
 version of Microsoft Windows? 
Firstly, If you wanted to say download and install Windows applications 
on FreeBSD, they will not run without being wrapped or run through a 
package such as WINE.  What does this mean to you? You will not be able 
to install and run any Windows software without setting up such a 
program first.

snip
 I'm finally fed up with it. But I'm afraid of one thing...
 that I won't have the capabilities with a Linux based OS that I did
 with Windows. Unfortunately, Microsoft is pretty much a monopoly, we
 all know that, and they pride themselves on forcing others out of
 business, but once again, there's the compatibility issue that I'm
 worried about.
FreeBSD is not a Linux based OS.  I use FreeBSD as a desktop in an 
environment where virtually all of my colleagues and competitors use 
Windows.  I do not use WINE or any Windows products as part of my 
normal working life.  I use substitutes such as: OpenOffice: Word; 
Konqueror: IE; Kmail: Outlook express etc etc.  I have had no issues 
whatsoever with incompatibility between my software suite and that of 
Windows and other users.

The real joy of open OSES is that you find substitutes that frequently 
work better, faster, cleaner than Windows applications.  To learn 
FreeBSD you will be starting again, in many ways, from scratch.  So I 
tend to think that your approach which is to kick out the bad OS and 
keep the good applications will lead you into more of a frustrating 
experience.  

 I read the compatibility section for hardware but really didn't see
 any of mine listed, so I'll list what I have and hopefully, if you
 have time, you can give me a yes or no. I would love you forever if
 you could do that :D.

 My System:
 Shuttle XPC SS56-G Barebones with Intel Socket 478
 Intel Celeron 2.4 Ghz (I know this is supported)
 768MB PC2100 RAM
 nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB AGP video card
 Memorex 48-24-48 CDR/RW
 The following components are all onboard the Shuttle mainboard:
 Advance AC'97 sound card
 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
 USB and USB 2.0
This Hardware is all pretty standard and should work.

snip
 I  wouldn't think of boring you with the endless amounts of software
 that I use, cause I can figure that out on my own later. 
One of the huge advantages of freeBSD is the ports system which has in 
excess of 12,000 programs which you can download and use.  The ports 
will replace your Windows applications.  It is worth finding out what 
people use as, say, media players.  For example, if you wanted a media 
player on Windows most people will use one of the following: BSplayer; 
Mplayer; Mediaplayer Classic or possibly Windows Media Player. On 
freeBSD a lot of people use Mplayer or Vlc. 

I hope this helps
.nbco
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Re: if this ethernet works

2005-03-05 Thread nbco
On Saturday 05 March 2005 16:54, Antoine Solomon wrote:
 I wanted to see if anyone knew of this getting this ethernet working
 on fbsd here is is
 Broadcom BCM5721 PCI Express GbE
Try the bge driver
.nbco
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Re: Openoffice startup question

2005-02-06 Thread nbco
On Sunday 06 February 2005 17:03, Ned Harrison wrote:
snip
 However, the initiall set up instructions don't seam to work.  When I
 type openoffice, I get Command not found for a response.  It
 doesn't matter whether I enter the command as an ordinary user or as
 root.  This is true even when I move to /usr/local/bin where there
 are several openoffice files.

Hi there,
Go to:
/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4

then enter the command (as root)
./spadmin

hope this helps
.nbco
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Re: couldn't start KDE.

2005-02-03 Thread nbco
On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:04, BSD Mail wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:48:13 -0800, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  On Wednesday 02 February 2005 11:28 pm, BSD Mail wrote:
snip
  Did you see the error message about /tmp/.ICE-unix. Check the
  ownership.
 
  Kent

 Sorry I forgot to mention that this is the second thing I tried
 actually. I noticed the permissions for 3 other directory and the
 .ICE-unix under /'tmp as root:wheel I ran chown -R user:user on them
 it got rid of most the errors but still, I was getting an error about
 that .ICE-unix directory. the third thing I did is I rm -rf
 everything under /tmp and started kde again. Less errors and still
 showing the .ICE-unix error and my previous attachment was the least
 error I was able to get.
snip

Hi, 
In relaton to the .ICE_unix directory, UPDATING deals with it in part 
(see below).   I like having clear_tmp_enable=YES so to avoid this 
problem, I created the directory /etc/rc.local with the following line:

mkdir -p -m 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix

This means that I can still clear out my tmp directories automatically 
on reboot and maintain the ICE-unix permissions.  
I hope this helps
.nbco


20041229:
AFFECTS: users of x11/kdebase3, x11-servers/xorg-server
AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If KDE does not start anymore after upgrading Xorg to version 6.8.1
(X restarts when the KDE splash screen has reached the third icon),
please check whether the directory /tmp/.ICE-unix exists, is owned by 
root and has permissions 1777 (read/write/access for everybody + sticky 
bit).

To make sure everything is in working order, do (as root):
mkdir -p /tmp/.ICE-unix  chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix 
chown root:wheel /tmp/.ICE-unix

Also, make sure you do NOT have clear_tmp_enable=YES set 
in /etc/rc.conf,
as it will remove the directory on every reboot and applications will 
re-create it with the wrong ownership.

Users of daily_clean_tmps_enable in /etc/periodic.conf should make sure
daily_clean_tmps_ignore contains /tmp/.ICE-unix.


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Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries

2005-01-18 Thread nbco
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 00:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 16 January 2005 14:15, Rob Lahaye wrote:
  Rob Lahaye wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports.
   Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot
   find its libraries:
  
snip
 
  Meanwhile I've solved the problem with a:
 
   # portupgrade -frRv linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1

more snippage
 I have tried the above suggestions, but I am still getting the
 following error:

 /usr/local/bin/realplay 
 [1] 12982
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while
 loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object
 file: No such file or directory

Hi there,
It seems like this problem is currently being resolved,
check out this thread:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-emulation/2005-January/000733.html
It seems that you should rebuild linux X11 libs
hope this helps
.nbco
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Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports

2005-01-16 Thread nbco
On Sunday 16 January 2005 14:15, Rob Lahaye wrote:
 Rob Lahaye wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports.
  Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot
  find its libraries:
 
  $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep not found
  libX11.so.6 = not found
  libXrandr.so.2 = not found
  libXi.so.6 = not found
  libXext.so.6 = not found
  libXft.so.2 = not found
  libXrender.so.1 = not found
  libX11.so.6 = not found
  libXft.so.2 = not found
  libXrender.so.1 = not found
  libX11.so.6 = not found
  $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
  /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6

 Meanwhile I've solved the problem with a:

  # portupgrade -frRv linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1

Hi,
It appears as though after the recent ports/emulators/linux_base version 
bump ( see ports/UPDATING), that the Linux X11 libraries are not 
appearing in /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache.

realplayer was not the only affected port - acroread was also affected; 
both are linux binaries which run under emulation.

Another fix is to do the following:
1) Add the following line to /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf:
/usr/X11R6/lib
2) Re-run /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig.

This will cause the runtime ELF linker cache for the Linuxolator to be 
regenerated with the location of the Linux X11 libraries added to the 
search path, and thus the libraries should then appear in the cache.

You should then be able to run acroread, realplayer etc. without further 
problems, even after a reboot.
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Re: openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE

2005-01-07 Thread nbco
On Friday 07 January 2005 17:56, albi wrote:
 Duane Winner wrote:
  We generally do a portupgrade -a to upgrade ports unless
  /usr/ports/UPDATING affects us. How can I get around the openoffice
  discrepency since a portupgrade -a will always try build it again
  and end up failing?
 a dirty solution is to press ctrl-c when OOo tries to build, i know
 from experience that portupgrade simply continues with the rest
 without any complaints :)

Alterntively, set openoffice to be held in pkgtools.conf 
in /usr/local/etc.  I have added the following line:  

HOLD_PKGS = ['openoffice-*']

This entry will prevent portupgrade attempting to upgrade the port.  

If you are using portmanager see this thread to see how to avoid 
portmanager attempting to upgrade a held port:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/070055.html

Hope this helps
.nbco


 Portupgrade honours this setting.

 but i assume in the Makefile (in the OOo-portsdir) one can put an
 IGNORE somewhere

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Re: re portmanager, how to prevent upgrade of held ports

2005-01-01 Thread nbco
On Friday 31 December 2004 23:32, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
 On Friday 31 December 2004 09:49 am, nbco wrote:
  Any ideas as to how to make portmanager ignore held ports?

 If you were to move /var/db/pkg/openoffice-1.1.4.20041101_1 (assuming
 that is the version you have installed) directory to someplace safe,
 like in your home directory then portmanager nor any part of the
 ports system would know openoffice-1.1.4.20041101_1 is installed.
 This will only work for a port that is not a dependency for another
 port so only if no other ports depend on openoffice-1.1.4.20041101_1
 will this work. When you want to upgrade it then move the directory
 back
 to /var/db/pkg.

  You can also create a ports/local/editors/openoffice-1.1which is a
 bit more involved and way more elegant, I will be happy to explain
 only if you are truly interested.

Many thanks, the first option worked perfectly, inelegant though it may 
be.
.nbco
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re portmanager, how to prevent upgrade of held ports

2004-12-31 Thread nbco
Hi list,

I am trying out portmanager-0.2.2, on a 5.3-RELEASE box.

I have openoffice-1.1.3.20040810 installed.  I don't want to upgrade 
openoffice at this time, as I don't have the space for a full compile 
and will wait for a new package. 

I have set openoffice to be held in pkgtools.conf in /usr/local/etc.  
Portupgrade honours this setting. Portmanager doesn't, therefore every 
time I attempt to run portmanager it tries to compile 
openoffice-1.1.4.20041101_1

I have looked at portmanager and cannot find a way to prevent it 
updating certain ports, and it doesn't honour the hold_pkgs in 
pkgtools.conf.

Any ideas as to how to make portmanager ignore held ports?

This problem makes portmanager unusable for me, as it updates openoffice 
first, so it never actually gets to the smaller out of date ports.

Many thanks in advance
.nbco

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re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread nbco
Hey list,
I downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1 iso via bittorrent.

The iso (644.91MB) downloaded in about 3 hours, over a  512/256 adsl 
connection. Which I think is pretty good.  

There don't seem to be that many people uploading it from me at the 
moment.

I'm impressed,
.nbco
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread nbco
On Monday 08 November 2004 00:28, Quinn Ellis wrote:
 nbco wrote:
 Hey list,
 I downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1 iso via bittorrent.
 
 The iso (644.91MB) downloaded in about 3 hours, over a  512/256 adsl
 connection. Which I think is pretty good.
 
 There don't seem to be that many people uploading it from me at the
 moment.
 
 I'm impressed,
 .nbco

 Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?
 Quinn.

Hi there,
Well, I suppose one of the main reasons is to keep pressure off the ftp 
servers: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/060205.html
Also it's being released as a torrent on an experimental basis:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/042511.html
The community were interested in it coming out this way too:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/063501.html

.nbco
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Re: GPL vs BSD Licence

2004-10-27 Thread nbco
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 10/27/04 12:59:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 If you buy a product what would you want ? A pretty box or pretty
 software ? Finishing the product is just marketing and trying to
  make a very pretty box to put the software in. When something is
  open source and you want to sell it you are forced to make it the
  best peace of code out there. Its what i call healthy competition.
  For me open source translates into If you think you can do better
  be my guest Finishing a product and making it closed source is
  just plain wrong. Its  like stealing from the church basket. Every
  body shares something and you want to take it and keep it for your
  self.
snip
 Are people who have written custom GUI front ends for Linux stealing?
 They're not stealing, they are getting paid for the value that
 they've added. Are people that sell bottled water stealing? No one is
 forcing you to pay for water. But its been cleaned and nicely
 packaged and it fits in your cupholder, so you buy it.
I have to say I generally really approve of TM4525's  attitude,  but on 
this one, you can't fool all of the people all of the time...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3523303.stm
coca cola no longer sells water in England, even though it be real 
purdy, the punters, don't buy it.
.nbco
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Re: port problem in AMD 64

2004-10-15 Thread nbco
On Friday 15 October 2004 16:32, ann kok wrote:
 1/ I succeed to install cvsup-without-gui by port
 but failed to run it!
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libm.so.3 not
 found

Hi there,
You don't say what version of freeBSD you are running. 

This sounds like a library problem see: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-October/040013.html
.nbco
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em0 problems on t41 after updating to 5.3

2004-10-15 Thread nbco
Hi list,
I have the following problems after updating from 5.1.2.1 to 5.3-BETA7

I have extemely poor and intermittent network connectivity with my 
ethernet card (em0).  My wireless atheros card (ath0) works perfectly. 

I have kde installed.

With em0:
I can ping; I can't telnet; sometimes I can send and receive mail (I 
mean very intermittently I can send a test message in about 12-24 
hours).  In terms of net access, I can access the web but extremely 
slowly with frequent timeouts, freebsd utilities are subject to the 
same issues, such as portupgrade; links; and cvsup, so I don't tend to 
think this is a kde problem.

I have no DHCP entries in my rc.conf.  Interestingly with both em0 and 
eth0, when  executing dhclient I receive the following error message:
dhclient: send_packet: Network is unreachable.  
However, with ath0 this is clearly a lie, as the network works 
perfectly. 


I have tested the ethernet card (em0) in my dual boot windows install, 
it works fine, so it doesn't seem to be a hardware problem.  My other 
box on the network is also fine.

Any ideas would be most gratefully received, I'm totally clueless on 
this.
many thanks
.nbco

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Fwd: Re: em0 problems on t41 after updating to 5.3

2004-10-15 Thread nbco


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Subject: Re: em0 problems on t41 after updating to 5.3
Date: Friday 15 October 2004 21:28
From: nbco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Friday 15 October 2004 21:09, pete wright wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:14:35 +0100, nbco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip

  Any ideas would be most gratefully received, I'm totally clueless
  on this.

 you may want to post a dmesg to the list.  i have had problems with
 em on my X31 with 5.x releases in the past.  seemed like an IRQ
 issue, altho i never investigated it.

Thanks Pete, Interesting that you should have em issues on 5.x, mine
 was fine, it only borked on 5.3.

On Friday 15 October 2004 21:34, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 This is a known problem - you should subscribe to the -current list
 to watch for patches you can test.

Thanks Kris, I do subscribe to current, and if your referring to this 
thread:
network slowness/freez-up since update 10/11
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-October/040227.html
I thought that only referred a problem with if_de cards and Giant-free 
operation.  I wouldn't think it would have applied to em0

Dmesg follows

Thanks 
.nbco


Here's my dmesg.

Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,
 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.3-BETA7 #0: Sun Oct 10 05:01:50 BST 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BMS_EMPIRIC
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz (1594.83-MHz 686-class
 CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x695  Stepping = 5
 
 Features=0xa7e9f9bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CM
OV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,PBE real memory  =
 1073086464 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1040523264 (992 MB)
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: IBM TP-1R on motherboard
acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x1c, ECDT port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU (3 Cx states) on acpi0
acpi_tz0: Thermal Zone on acpi0
acpi_lid0: Control Method Lid Switch on acpi0
acpi_button0: Sleep Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82855 host to AGP bridge mem 0xd000-0xdfff at
device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
drm0: ATI Radeon LW Mobility 7500 M7 port 0x3000-0x30ff mem
0xc010-0xc010,0xe000-0xe7ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on
pci1
info: [drm] AGP at 0xd000 256MB
info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0
uhci0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A port 0x1800-0x181f
irq 11 atdevice 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B port 0x1820-0x183f
irq 11 atdevice 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C port 0x1840-0x185f
irq 11 atdevice 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xc000-0xc3ff
 irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0
ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1
ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2
usb3: EHCI version 1.0
usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2
usb3: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
usb3: USB revision 2.0
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
cbb0: PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0xb000-0xbfff irq 11 at device
0.0 on pci2
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
cbb1: PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0xb100-0xb1000fff irq 11 at device
0.1 on pci2
cardbus1: CardBus bus on cbb1
pccard1: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb1
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection, Version - 1.7.25 port
0x8000-0x803f mem 0xc020-0xc020,0xc022-0xc023 irq 11 at
device 1.0 on pci2
em0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:60:7e:57:16
em0:  Speed:N/A  Duplex:N/A
ath0: Atheros 5212 mem 0xc021-0xc021 irq 11 at device 2.0 on
pci2
ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3
ath0: Ethernet address: 00:05:4e:44:be:20
ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps

Re: Fwd: Re: em0 problems on t41 after updating to 5.3

2004-10-15 Thread nbco
On Friday 15 October 2004 23:23, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 09:51:19PM +0100, nbco wrote:
  On Friday 15 October 2004 21:34, Kris Kennaway wrote:
   This is a known problem - you should subscribe to the -current
   list to watch for patches you can test.
 
  Thanks Kris, I do subscribe to current, and if your referring to
  this thread:
  network slowness/freez-up since update 10/11
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-October/040
 227.html I thought that only referred a problem with if_de cards and
  Giant-free operation.  I wouldn't think it would have applied to
  em0

 No, other emails and PRs report problems with em0 identical to those
 you're describing.
Ok I'm going to file a bug report then,
thanks again.
.nbco

 Kris
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Re: Fwd: Re: em0 problems on t41 after updating to 5.3

2004-10-15 Thread nbco
Hey list,

There has been a patch submitted for this problem, which resolved my 
connectivity problems - see:
kern/72748: em0 problems on t41 after updating to 5.3
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-October/040502.html

Thanks to everyone for all their help.
.nbco
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Re: Downloading FreeBSD

2004-10-05 Thread nbco
On Tuesday 05 October 2004 17:08, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2004-10-05 10:04, Troy Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:52:06 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 2004-10-05 21:06, Marcus Meng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone ever considered setting up a bittorrent tracker for
FreeBSD distributions?
  
   The usual methods (FTP, CVS, CVSup) work fine so far.  What would that
   gain for the end-user who's sitting on a slow dialup link somewhere?
 
  The gain for dialup users would be indirect but ultimately everyone
  would benefit. Those who chose to do CVSup and download ISOs from the
  FTP server may see an indirect gain in speed as the bandwidth load

 I'm asking because I don't know:

 a) What a bittorrent tracker is.
 b) What it takes to install and set up one.
 c) Why would I prefer it over FTP/CVSup?

 Your reply to c) seems to be to save bandwidth.  The next logical
 question is how is bandwidth saved and who is it saved from?

snip
 I've seen BitTorrent being mentioned quite a few times in
 the past.  I'm asking what it is, why one would use it, how it would be
 set up in order to learn more about BitTorrent.

Bittorrent is a type of p2p protocol: http://bittorrent.com/introduction.html 
Bittorrent would take the pressure off the servers as those who use it would 
effectively be getting the isos from those that already have them on their 
own boxes, in short it cuts the servers out of the picture therefore reducing 
congestion.  It's in ports. I use: /usr/ports/net/py-bittornado
home page: http://bittornado.com/

When you seed a torrent, you make your file, whether it is an iso, text etc 
available to the bittorrent community. Most bittorrent clients will do this 
for you.  If you do not seed a torrent. it will not be available to the 
bittorrent comunity even though the isos are on your machine. Other p2p 
networks don't require this tagging and so any files that you wish to share 
are available to the p2p users.

The reduction in pressure on the servers would hold true for any of the p2p 
networks I have the 5.2.1. isos on my box, and accessible to the peer 
networks, but as yet have never noticed anyone downloading them.

Once I move to 5.3 I could seed it and we can see whether it is picked up. I 
don't think there is any real reason to seed 5.2.1.
.nbco
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Re: Question

2004-09-16 Thread nbco
On Thursday 16 September 2004 15:44, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 08:38:19AM -0500, Doug Paquette wrote:
  I was wondering if you have the Handbook in a PDF format that I can
  download to make it easier to print the hand book out?

 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

The handbook is being updated for 5.3 at this time, so it would probably be 
better to wait until the release is cut to print out a copy as it's a pretty 
big book

.nbco
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