Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 03:48:00PM -0700, Tom Connolly wrote:
> >> 
> >> Well Said!
> > 
> > Why is there such a huge influx of idiots as of late? Then the next
> > million dollar question, why?
> 
> They're really starting to come out in force as of late aren't they?
> 
this is only my best swag, obviously, but consider 
the political situation...  globally! more idiots/mm**2
than i've seen in many a moon.  run! hide in your 
bomb shelters!  (*mumble*)

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RE: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of PC GURU
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees
>
>
> So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What
> are my rights? I've emailed Applebees twice, and spoke to them
> twice, but so far they have done nothing.
>
> I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given.
>

Sorry guy, you would have had to have been an employee if you wanted a
share
of that $40,000 settlement.

(Here's the URL to prevent anyone else from wasting any more time on
this)

http://www.thetennesseetribune.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=30929&;
sID=16

Ted

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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, January 21, 2005 6:08 PM -0600 Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
It actually seems to have a purpose, and a pretty lowdown scummy one at
that.  Try to track this down by entering the subject line in the world's
number one search engine.
It's kind of ingenious, I guess, but I am continually amazed by mankind's
capacity for rapacity.
OK, now I'm going to be sick.
Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 01/21/05 06:08 PM, Kevin Kinsey sat at the `puter and typed:
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
> 
> > --On Friday, January 21, 2005 05:41:05 PM -0500 Frank Laszlo 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe.
> >>
> > Oh great.  So now we're getting spam that serves no purpose at all?
> >
> > Gotta love the internet
> 
> 
> It actually seems to have a purpose, and a pretty lowdown scummy one
> at that.  Try to track this down by entering the subject line in the
> world's number one search engine.

Oh my goodness.  I'd have never thought of that.  I'm astounded by the
result - particularly the low number of hits.  This is obviously a
marketing ploy.

> It's kind of ingenious, I guess, but I am continually amazed by
> mankind's capacity for rapacity.

I'm amazed too.  Astounded.  And to think I almost took the OP
seriously.

Lou
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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Friday, January 21, 2005 05:41:05 PM -0500 Frank Laszlo 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe.
Oh great.  So now we're getting spam that serves no purpose at all?
Gotta love the internet

It actually seems to have a purpose, and a pretty lowdown scummy one at
that.  Try to track this down by entering the subject line in the world's
number one search engine.
It's kind of ingenious, I guess, but I am continually amazed by mankind's
capacity for rapacity.
KDK
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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, January 21, 2005 05:41:05 PM -0500 Frank Laszlo 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe.
Oh great.  So now we're getting spam that serves no purpose at all?
Gotta love the internet
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RE: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Tom Connolly
>> 
>> Well Said!
> 
> Why is there such a huge influx of idiots as of late? Then the next
> million dollar question, why?

They're really starting to come out in force as of late aren't they?

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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread cali
This is the wierdest spam I have ever seen, maybe it is to solicit responses 
to harvest email addresses for a particular kind of targeted advertising. Or 
maybe a ludicrous attempt at trolling.

cali

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Happy New Year to you.
Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white 
terrorist in APPLEBEES on December 30.  The reason I'm posting you is to 
seek your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault, 
and hate crime situation like this. What would you do if something this 
devilish had happened to you?

This is the second time this has happened to me in the same Applebees. The 
first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person 
using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from 
me at the bar.

She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that 
things were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and 
then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said 
something so lowlife in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the 
bar and the rest of the tables nearby full as well.

The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five 
years at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she 
couldn't believe her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of 
me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person. They 
are always saying that they are not prejudiced. so this would have been 
the perfect time for some of them to back up their words with action.

They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" 
look that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never 
considered before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask 
him to leave. He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have 
seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to 
his modo di pensare. I did nothing official that time. This time I'm 
trying to determine what the best way to proceed would be. Here are most 
of the facts as to what occurred last Thursday, the 30th of December 2004.

I went out to Applebees here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I 
sat on the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of 
them was named "VanMater" from the Buick family here. I talked to them 
about various subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some 
Frangelico. They had never tasted it so I thought I would let them sample 
something different since they were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year 
young African American. Most whites won't.

Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on 
his cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the 
world and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking 
when it comes to how they view others around the world.

Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to 
my right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked 
it up and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little 
girl that was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I 
hung up and started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female 
friend next to her, and her Canadian boyfriend to her right.

The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a 
salon here.  I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem 
Globetrotter basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets 
named after my mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a 
quick history on some black folks who were highly respected in this area.

After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck 
driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated 
from high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him 
when she graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, 
and one of you is a fucking nigger"

I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the Applebees manager 
was not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would 
do next. After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told 
him that he had to leave the club.

The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets 
all the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and 
talked to the manager of Applebees. He never came over and asked me 
anything; nor did he advise me of my rights in that situation.

I'm one of the charter members of Applebees here. I have been going there 
since about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a 
serious incident like this one

So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were 
talking about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish 
female caught my eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up si

Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Chris
Tom Connolly wrote:
Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your
time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions
if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here.
1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions?  Read the charter. 
This 
isn't a self-help group.

2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the
beam 
from your own.  (white trash?  They?  Most whites?)

3) This is America.  You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid
stuff.
4) Apparently all the white chicks love you.  So at least half of your
"enemies" are your friends.

Well Said!
Why is there such a huge influx of idiots as of late? Then the next 
million dollar question, why?

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Best regards,
Chris
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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Frank Laszlo
Tom Connolly wrote:
Paul Schmehl wrote:
 

--On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your
time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions
if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here.
 

1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions?  Read the charter. 
This 
isn't a self-help group.

2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the
beam 
from your own.  (white trash?  They?  Most whites?)

3) This is America.  You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid
stuff.
4) Apparently all the white chicks love you.  So at least half of your
"enemies" are your friends.
   


Well Said!
 

I recived one of these to my personal address. looks like spam maybe.
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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Pablo Allietti
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 04:07:24PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >

i think this is a "SPAM" dont worry paul just filter his address.


> >I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time
> >to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you
> >think there is a fair and just remedy for me here.
> >
> 1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions?  Read the charter.  This 
> isn't a self-help group.
> 
> 2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the beam 
> from your own.  (white trash?  They?  Most whites?)
> 
> 3) This is America.  You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid 
> stuff.
> 
> 4) Apparently all the white chicks love you.  So at least half of your 
> "enemies" are your friends.
> 
> Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Adjunct Information Security Officer
> The University of Texas at Dallas
> AVIEN Founding Member
> http://www.utdallas.edu
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RE: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Tom Connolly
Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your
>> time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions
>> if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here.
>> 
> 1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions?  Read the charter. 
> This 
> isn't a self-help group.
> 
> 2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the
> beam 
> from your own.  (white trash?  They?  Most whites?)
> 
> 3) This is America.  You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid
> stuff.
> 
> 4) Apparently all the white chicks love you.  So at least half of your
> "enemies" are your friends.
> 


Well Said!

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Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, January 21, 2005 03:27:29 PM -0600 PC GURU 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time
to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you
think there is a fair and just remedy for me here.
1) Why are you posting this to freebsd-questions?  Read the charter.  This 
isn't a self-help group.

2) Before removing the mote in your neighbor's eye, first remove the beam 
from your own.  (white trash?  They?  Most whites?)

3) This is America.  You know, free speech and all that sort of stupid 
stuff.

4) Apparently all the white chicks love you.  So at least half of your 
"enemies" are your friends.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu
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1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees

2005-01-21 Thread PC GURU
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], 

Happy New Year to you.

Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white 
terrorist in APPLEBEES on December 30.  The reason I'm posting you is to seek 
your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault,  and hate 
crime situation like this. What would you do if something this devilish had 
happened to you? 

This is the second time this has happened to me in the same Applebees. The 
first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person  
using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from me at 
the bar. 

She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that things 
were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and then said "I 
hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said something so lowlife 
in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the bar and the rest of the 
tables nearby full as well. 

The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five years 
at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she couldn't believe 
her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of me, and asked them if 
they were going to say something to the person. They are always saying that 
they are not prejudiced. so this would have been the perfect time for some of 
them to back up their words with action.

 They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" look 
that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never considered 
before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask him to leave. 
He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have seen the fellow in 
other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to his modo di pensare. I did 
nothing official that time. This time I'm trying to determine what the best way 
to proceed would be. Here are most of the facts as to what occurred last 
Thursday, the 30th of December 2004.

I went out to Applebees here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I sat on 
the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of them was 
named "VanMater" from the Buick family here. I talked to them about various 
subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some Frangelico. They had never 
tasted it so I thought I would let them sample something different since they 
were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year young African American. Most whites 
won't.

Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on his 
cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the world 
and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking when it 
comes to how they view others around the world.

Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to my 
right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked it up 
and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little girl that 
was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I hung up and 
started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female friend next to her, 
and her Canadian boyfriend to her right.

The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a salon 
here.  I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem Globetrotter 
basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets named after my 
mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a quick history on some 
black folks who were highly respected in this area.

After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck 
driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated from 
high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him when she 
graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, and one of you 
is a fucking nigger"

 I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the Applebees manager was 
not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would do next. 
After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told him that he 
had to leave the club.

The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets all 
the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and talked to the 
manager of Applebees. He never came over and asked me anything; nor did he 
advise me of my rights in that situation.

I'm one of the charter members of Applebees here. I have been going there since 
about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a serious 
incident like this one 

So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were talking 
about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish female caught my 
eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up sign. Apparently she was happy that he 
was gone.

 After about 20 minutes, another young white female stopped behind me and told 
me that the fellow was still in the parking lot in his truck.