Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-23 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-01-23 19:18, Doug Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:12:40 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>On 2003-01-22 16:52, Doug Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
>>> >Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
>>> >not have a mount_msdos command.  It's no biggie, I just used 'mount
>>> >-t msdos' and got what I wanted, but I was wondering why this was
>>> >missing?  Is there a reason why it was removed, or is it some
>>> >oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight, as the man page is missing
>>> >as well.
>>>
>>> afaik:
>>>
>>> [root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
>>> FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
>>> 20:21:37 EST 2003
>>>
>>> [root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
>>> usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
>>>[-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir
>>>
>>> and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.
>>
>>Strange.  This has been changed a while ago:
>>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefile.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18
>>
>>and the only mount_msdos binary that I have in my system is a rather
>>stale copy from Oct 9 2002 (boy, I need to clean up this installation
>>one of these days):
>
> seems so.  is there any automated way to prune the old stuff?

I don't know of any automated way.  The best way I can think of is to
use a spare partition that has enough space for installing the base
system, which is mounted under /mnt, and used as a temporary root
filesystem while the real /, /var, /usr or any other filesystems are
cleaned up.


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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-23 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:42:47 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

>On 2003-01-23 00:12, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Strange.  This has been changed a while ago:
>> 
>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefile.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18
>>
>> and the only mount_msdos binary that I have in my system is a rather
>> stale copy from Oct 9 2002 (boy, I need to clean up this installation
>> one of these days):
>>
>> giorgos@gothmog[00:11]/home/giorgos$ ls -lT /sbin/mount_msdos*
>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 183776 Oct  9 15:45:24 2002 /sbin/mount_msdos
>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 378172 Jan 22 18:47:00 2003 /sbin/mount_msdosfs
>
>Which was the date that I installed a 4.4-RELEASE copy and tried to
>upgrade using the source to 5.0-CURRENT.  Sorry for forgetting to
>mention that.  Reading the commit log reference above and the date of
>the binary someone could have thought that somehow mount_msdos was
>still there in Oct 19 2002 in the 5.X branch.  It wasn't...

kinda weird though, the date on my file was Dec 24 2002, the date of my
last 4.7-STABLE buildworld.. hmmm

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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-23 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:12:40 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

>On 2003-01-22 16:52, Doug Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
>> >Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
>> >not have a mount_msdos command.  It's no biggie, I just used 'mount
>> >-t msdos' and got what I wanted, but I was wondering why this was
>> >missing?  Is there a reason why it was removed, or is it some
>> >oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight, as the man page is missing
>> >as well.
>>
>> afaik:
>>
>> [root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
>> FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
>> 20:21:37 EST 2003
>>
>> [root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
>> usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
>>[-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir
>>
>> and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.
>
>Strange.  This has been changed a while ago:
>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefile.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18
>
>and the only mount_msdos binary that I have in my system is a rather
>stale copy from Oct 9 2002 (boy, I need to clean up this installation
>one of these days):

seems so.  is there any automated way to prune the old stuff?

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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-23 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:12:30 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:

>Doug Reynolds wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>Not a critical question, but ...
>>>
>>>Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
>>>not have a mount_msdos command.
>>>It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t msdos' and got what I wanted,
>>>but I was wondering why this was missing?  Is there a reason why
>>>it was removed, or is it some oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight,
>>>as the man page is missing as well.
>>>
>>>Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
>>>mistake.
>> 
>> 
>> afaik:
>> 
>> [root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
>> FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
>> 20:21:37 EST 2003
>> 
>> [root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
>> usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
>>[-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir
>> 
>> and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.
>
>Hmmm ... did you upgrade this machine from 4.X?  The machine in question
>is a clean 5.0-RELEASE install.

yes, more reseach shows that:

-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  184776 Dec 24 12:05 mount_msdos*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  394716 Jan 20 19:26 mount_msdosfs*

seems that mount_msdosfs has replaced mount_msdos

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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 04:52:16PM -0500, Doug Reynolds wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
> >Not a critical question, but ...
> >
> >Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
> >not have a mount_msdos command.
> >It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t msdos' and got what I wanted,
> >but I was wondering why this was missing?  Is there a reason why
> >it was removed, or is it some oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight,
> >as the man page is missing as well.
> >
> >Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
> >mistake.
> 
> afaik:
> 
> [root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
> FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
> 20:21:37 EST 2003
> 
> [root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
> usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
>[-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir
> 
> and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.

You have stale binaries lying around.

> which mount_msdos
mount_msdos: Command not found.
> which mount_msdosfs
/sbin/mount_msdosfs

The mount_* utilities were renamed to be named consistently.

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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-01-23 00:12, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strange.  This has been changed a while ago:
> 
>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefile.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18
>
> and the only mount_msdos binary that I have in my system is a rather
> stale copy from Oct 9 2002 (boy, I need to clean up this installation
> one of these days):
>
> giorgos@gothmog[00:11]/home/giorgos$ ls -lT /sbin/mount_msdos*
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 183776 Oct  9 15:45:24 2002 /sbin/mount_msdos
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 378172 Jan 22 18:47:00 2003 /sbin/mount_msdosfs

Which was the date that I installed a 4.4-RELEASE copy and tried to
upgrade using the source to 5.0-CURRENT.  Sorry for forgetting to
mention that.  Reading the commit log reference above and the date of
the binary someone could have thought that somehow mount_msdos was
still there in Oct 19 2002 in the 5.X branch.  It wasn't...


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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-01-22 16:52, Doug Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> >Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
> >not have a mount_msdos command.  It's no biggie, I just used 'mount
> >-t msdos' and got what I wanted, but I was wondering why this was
> >missing?  Is there a reason why it was removed, or is it some
> >oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight, as the man page is missing
> >as well.
>
> afaik:
>
> [root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
> FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
> 20:21:37 EST 2003
>
> [root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
> usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
>[-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir
>
> and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.

Strange.  This has been changed a while ago:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefile.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18

and the only mount_msdos binary that I have in my system is a rather
stale copy from Oct 9 2002 (boy, I need to clean up this installation
one of these days):

giorgos@gothmog[00:11]/home/giorgos$ ls -lT /sbin/mount_msdos*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 183776 Oct  9 15:45:24 2002 /sbin/mount_msdos
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 378172 Jan 22 18:47:00 2003 /sbin/mount_msdosfs


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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Bill Moran
Doug Reynolds wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:



Not a critical question, but ...

Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
not have a mount_msdos command.
It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t msdos' and got what I wanted,
but I was wondering why this was missing?  Is there a reason why
it was removed, or is it some oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight,
as the man page is missing as well.

Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
mistake.



afaik:

[root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
20:21:37 EST 2003

[root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
   [-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir

and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.


Hmmm ... did you upgrade this machine from 4.X?  The machine in question
is a clean 5.0-RELEASE install.

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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:08 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:

>Not a critical question, but ...
>
>Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
>not have a mount_msdos command.
>It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t msdos' and got what I wanted,
>but I was wondering why this was missing?  Is there a reason why
>it was removed, or is it some oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight,
>as the man page is missing as well.
>
>Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
>mistake.

afaik:

[root@/usr/bin]>uname -a
FreeBSD ## 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 20
20:21:37 EST 2003

[root@/usr/bin]>mount_msdos
usage: mount_msdos [-o options] [-u user] [-g group] [-m mask]
   [-s] [-l] [-9] [-L locale] [-W table] bdev dir

and man mount_msdos brings up the manpage.


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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Bill Moran
Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Jan 22), Bill Moran said:

Not a critical question, but ...

Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
not have a mount_msdos command. It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t
msdos' and got what I wanted, but I was wondering why this was
missing?  Is there a reason why it was removed, or is it some
oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight, as the man page is missing as
well.

Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
mistake.


It's been mount_msdosfs since:

/usr/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefile		revision 1.18
date: 2001/06/01 10:57:26;  author: ru;  state: Exp;  lines: +4 -4


I see.  Although I don't understand why it still isn't called
mount_fat, but that's just me ;)

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: 5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 22), Bill Moran said:
> Not a critical question, but ...
> 
> Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
> not have a mount_msdos command. It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t
> msdos' and got what I wanted, but I was wondering why this was
> missing?  Is there a reason why it was removed, or is it some
> oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight, as the man page is missing as
> well.
> 
> Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
> mistake.

It's been mount_msdosfs since:

/usr/src/sbin/mount_msdosfs/Makefilerevision 1.18
date: 2001/06/01 10:57:26;  author: ru;  state: Exp;  lines: +4 -4
- VFS_SET(msdos) -> VFS_SET(msdosfs)
- msdos.ko -> msdosfs.ko
- mount_msdos(8) -> mount_msdosfs(8)
- "msdos" -> "msdosfs" compatibility glue in mount(8)

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5.0-RELEASE and mount_msdos

2003-01-22 Thread Bill Moran
Not a critical question, but ...

Working on my spiffy test machine, I noticed that 5.0-RELEASE does
not have a mount_msdos command.
It's no biggie, I just used 'mount -t msdos' and got what I wanted,
but I was wondering why this was missing?  Is there a reason why
it was removed, or is it some oversight?  I doubt it's an oversight,
as the man page is missing as well.

Mostly curious, but I thought I'd point it out in case it was a
mistake.

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