5.3 and HT with SMP

2004-12-27 Thread J.D. Bronson
How stable and successful is HT support via SMP?
(I presume it is supported)
I have a P4-3.06 with HT support
I had a 5.3 machine with an HT/SMP kernel (no other customizations)
and the server would randomly reboot. Could be a few hours
or could be a week.
I setup a new machine (same exact model and hardware) and installed 5.3 
again on this machine and the same thing happened.

So thinking it was the network, I disconnected the ethernet and still it 
reboots within some time. I then ran a debug kernel and it ran for weeks 
with no crash.

When it did crash, there was no logs and no errors. The servers are on a 
huge stable UPS. Solaris runs on these machines for months.

Anyone see this? anyone have any ideas?

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Re: 5.3 and HT with SMP

2004-12-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 06:49:35PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> How stable and successful is HT support via SMP?
> (I presume it is supported)
> 
> I have a P4-3.06 with HT support
> 
> I had a 5.3 machine with an HT/SMP kernel (no other customizations)
> and the server would randomly reboot. Could be a few hours
> or could be a week.
> 
> I setup a new machine (same exact model and hardware) and installed 5.3 
> again on this machine and the same thing happened.
> 
> So thinking it was the network, I disconnected the ethernet and still it 
> reboots within some time. I then ran a debug kernel and it ran for weeks 
> with no crash.
> 
> When it did crash, there was no logs and no errors. The servers are on a 
> huge stable UPS. Solaris runs on these machines for months.
> 
> Anyone see this? anyone have any ideas?

Try a BIOS update.  Many early revisions of BIOSes with HTT support
were buggy.

Also, make sure you have crashdumps enabled (see handbook and
developers' handbook for more details), because your "randomly
reboot"ing may actually be the server panicking because of a kernel
bug.

Kris

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Re: 5.3 and HT with SMP

2004-12-27 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 06:52 PM 12/27/2004, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> When it did crash, there was no logs and no errors. The servers are on a
> huge stable UPS. Solaris runs on these machines for months.
>
> Anyone see this? anyone have any ideas?
Try a BIOS update.  Many early revisions of BIOSes with HTT support
were buggy.
This bios is right up to dateso unless there is some fix out that has 
not been releasedI am at as high as I can be.

Also, make sure you have crashdumps enabled (see handbook and
developers' handbook for more details), because your "randomly
reboot"ing may actually be the server panicking because of a kernel
bug.
I had crashdumps enabled and since the machine never crashed even after 2 
weeks I Was unable to capture anything.

I wanted to add that I had never had any issues running 5.2.1 on this 
machine even with the same bios. So I am left to think something changed in 
5.3 that somehow now I am hitting.

I cannot rule out my scsi cards/drives...so this week I will be doing a new 
install on this hardware with IDE only and then see if anything changes for 
the better.

although as I stated before..solaris runs on these machines for a very long 
time with no unexpected reboots

Very hard to find out this error!
Jeff 

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Re: 5.3 and HT with SMP

2004-12-28 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 12/27/04 06:49 PM, J.D. Bronson sat at the `puter and typed:
> How stable and successful is HT support via SMP?
> (I presume it is supported)
> 
> I have a P4-3.06 with HT support
> 
> I had a 5.3 machine with an HT/SMP kernel (no other customizations)
> and the server would randomly reboot. Could be a few hours
> or could be a week.
> 
> I setup a new machine (same exact model and hardware) and installed 5.3 
> again on this machine and the same thing happened.
> 
> So thinking it was the network, I disconnected the ethernet and still it 
> reboots within some time. I then ran a debug kernel and it ran for weeks 
> with no crash.
> 
> When it did crash, there was no logs and no errors. The servers are on a 
> huge stable UPS. Solaris runs on these machines for months.
> 
> Anyone see this? anyone have any ideas?

I had all kinds of problems with 5.2.1 - disk controller related.  I'm
running 5.3 RELEASE now on a P4-3.0 with HT support, and it's fine.

I assume there are no log entries in /var/logs/messages?

And, are you running a generic or custom kernel?

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Re: 5.3 and HT with SMP

2004-12-28 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 08:42 AM 12/28/2004, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
I had all kinds of problems with 5.2.1 - disk controller related.  I'm
running 5.3 RELEASE now on a P4-3.0 with HT support, and it's fine.
I assume there are no log entries in /var/logs/messages?
Nothing!!! - just the fsck on the way back up...
And, are you running a generic or custom kernel?
I was running a custom kernel...so I rebuilt the generic kernel
and it still rebooted
I will be trying this again..fresh install (no custom kernel) and IDE.
If it still crashes, I will be asking the group for some help..I can even 
hook a laptop up to the console to capture things 24/7 if needed.

5.2.1 was rock solid. Although 5.3 performs better overall :)


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Re: 5.3 and HT with SMP

2004-12-28 Thread Gianluca
on a general note (as a newbie) what's the recommended setup for HT?
right now I have it disabled w/ 5.3 GENERIC and I haven't seen any
strange behavior. should I try enabling it and switch to the SMP
kernel?

thanks, 

g.
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