Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
RW wrote: On Friday 30 December 2005 13:54, Greg Barniskis wrote: distribution ISOs as packages. Again, if you simply must have sources not packages, then at your high speed location, do something like: portupgrade -F '*' Then burn your own ISOs any which way you like. Try to be more specific about what you want than '*' or you may be sorry due to the sheer volume -- do you really want all of the sources for nearly 14,000 ports? "*" is a package glob that applies only to the entries in the package database, so you wont get the source 14,000 ports, unless you've already installed them all. Yeah, I guess I knew that wasn't quite right, thus the hedge language: "something like". I suppose I should have just said "see man portupgrade" or taken the time to do that myself. Thanks for the clarification. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On Friday 30 December 2005 13:54, Greg Barniskis wrote: > distribution ISOs as packages. Again, if you simply must have > sources not packages, then at your high speed location, do something > like: > > portupgrade -F '*' > > Then burn your own ISOs any which way you like. Try to be more > specific about what you want than '*' or you may be sorry due to the > sheer volume -- do you really want all of the sources for nearly > 14,000 ports? "*" is a package glob that applies only to the entries in the package database, so you wont get the source 14,000 ports, unless you've already installed them all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 05:10:25PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My point was that I don't have a fast Internet link at home to fetch all > the (new) sources for the distfiles and I was looking for distfiles on > CD which match exactly the 6.0-REL ports collection requirements; Since the full set of distfiles is something like 15GB, hoping for a CD that contains them is .. ambitious :-) Kris pgpTSsScu3lC7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On 2005-12-30 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the company, where I'm at the moment, I've an uplink to Internet of > 2 mb, at home I've 64 kbit; so my idea was to fetch, lets say 4 CD at > high speed, burn them and use them at home for the needed disfiles This is where the -F option of portupgrade becomes *very* useful: - On the system with the fast connection, you update your /usr/ports tree and then run portupgrade: # portupgrade -a -vuN -F - Copy over both /usr/ports and /usr/ports/distfiles Now updates from the disconnected system should be easy as long as you use the same options when building the ports on the two systems (since some of the port options may affect the number and version of distfiles downloaded). Another way to update systems that use similar versions of FreeBSD on the same architecture is to use pkg_create(1) (with the -b option) to save the packages of one system and pkg_add(1) to install them on another. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On 2005-12-29 16:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > El d?a Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 04:58:14PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas > escribi?: > > They are not specific to a single release. You can just copy over > > the distfiles from the older notebook and rebuild your ports. > > That's not true. I copied over the /usr/ports/distfiles from my > 5.4-REL to the 6.0-REL but the ports-collection which comes with > 6.0-REL will use other sources while doing 'make install' in > /usr/ports/x11/kde: > > 5.4-REL: > > $ ls -lutr libtoo* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2699923 29 dic 13:17 libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 538884 29 dic 13:18 libtool-1.3.5.tar.gz > $ cd KDE > $ ls -lutr kdeba* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 22670772 29 dic 13:18 kdebase-3.4.0.tar.bz2 > > 6.0-REL: > > $ ls -lutr libtoo* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2699923 Dec 29 13:17 libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2780846 Dec 29 13:28 libtool-1.5.18.tar.gz > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 538884 Dec 29 14:10 libtool-1.3.5.tar.gz This is because some of the ports have been updated since 5.4-RELEASE was cut. Ports are constantly updated and upgraded to newer, better versions of the packages. Using the same /usr/ports tree will always build the same packages from the same sources though. Sorry for not making this explicit in my original post. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 11:13:50AM -0600, Greg Barniskis escribió: ... My point was that I don't have a fast Internet link at home to fetch all the (new) sources for the distfiles and I was looking for distfiles on CD which match exactly the 6.0-REL ports collection requirements; ... Anyway, do you think you could download an ISO of the sources all that much faster than just downloading the sources directly from their respective repositories around the world as is normally done? OK, maybe a little bit faster, but not that much. Now you're close to my point :-) In the company, where I'm at the moment, I've an uplink to Internet of 2 mb, at home I've 64 kbit; so my idea was to fetch, lets say 4 CD at high speed, burn them and use them at home for the needed disfiles; it seems that this would be a good idea to place somewhere a start collection of the disfiles matching exactly the versions which will be fetched by the ports, at least for the the most common parts of the ports collection, don't you think so? No, I don't. It's one thing for the individual port maintainers to try to keep pace with updating the ports Makefiles telling you where you can download each distfile from, and quite another to try to create a central repository for these distfiles. Would you like to volunteer to host it and keep it current? ;) Also, the "most common parts of the ports collection" are on the distribution ISOs as packages. Again, if you simply must have sources not packages, then at your high speed location, do something like: portupgrade -F '*' Then burn your own ISOs any which way you like. Try to be more specific about what you want than '*' or you may be sorry due to the sheer volume -- do you really want all of the sources for nearly 14,000 ports? Or perhaps this is what you want? http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdtool?id=yvFGn3kw&mv_pc=26 -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 11:13:50AM -0600, Greg Barniskis escribió: ... > > > >My point was that I don't have a fast Internet link at home to fetch all > >the (new) sources for the distfiles and I was looking for distfiles on > >CD which match exactly the 6.0-REL ports collection requirements; > ... > > Anyway, do you think you could download an ISO of the sources all > that much faster than just downloading the sources directly from > their respective repositories around the world as is normally done? > OK, maybe a little bit faster, but not that much. Now you're close to my point :-) In the company, where I'm at the moment, I've an uplink to Internet of 2 mb, at home I've 64 kbit; so my idea was to fetch, lets say 4 CD at high speed, burn them and use them at home for the needed disfiles; it seems that this would be a good idea to place somewhere a start collection of the disfiles matching exactly the versions which will be fetched by the ports, at least for the the most common parts of the ports collection, don't you think so? some wweks ago I was in Havana giving talks about FreeBSD and after that I let my 5.4-REL disfiles there in some central servers so that the folks can setup a 5.4-REL desktop system with KDE and so on, and without needing access to Internet... Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 04:54:42PM +0100, Andreas Rudisch escribió: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:10:00 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Just install FreeBSD 6.0 and use the packages provided with the RELEASE, or cvsup your ports tree and do a fresh install of the ports you need. My point was that I don't have a fast Internet link at home to fetch all the (new) sources for the distfiles and I was looking for distfiles on CD which match exactly the 6.0-REL ports collection requirements; If you don't have a fast connection you might want to consider installing the ports from packages (which *are* on the release ISO images, at least for popular ports) rather than compiling all your ports from source. Anyway, do you think you could download an ISO of the sources all that much faster than just downloading the sources directly from their respective repositories around the world as is normally done? OK, maybe a little bit faster, but not that much. If you simply must have sources not packages, you might consider using something like portupgrade -F to prefetch the sources you want separately from doing compilation, and just batch it to do that fetching overnight or something. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:10:25 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My point was that I don't have a fast Internet link at home to fetch all the (new) sources for the distfiles and I was looking for distfiles on CD which match exactly the 6.0-REL ports collection requirements; In that case use the packages from the install CDs and do _not_ use ports. Andreas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 04:54:42PM +0100, Andreas Rudisch escribió: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:10:00 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 04:58:14PM +0200, Giorgos > >Keramidas escribió: > > > >>The distfiles are the sources of the ported programs. > > > >I know. > > > >>They are > >>not specific to a single release. You can just copy over the > >>distfiles from the older notebook and rebuild your ports. > > > >That's not true. I copied over the /usr/ports/distfiles from my > >5.4-REL to the 6.0-REL but the ports-collection which comes with > >6.0-REL will use other sources while doing 'make install' in > >/usr/ports/x11/kde: > > Well, since 6.0 came out much after 5.4, it uses updated ports/ > packages (new features, bugfixes), so the versions of some ports > of 6.0 will be higher than of 5.4. Yes, that's the reason and that was what I discovered a few seconds after fireing up 'make install' in /usr/ports/x11/kde; to give one example: it is building KDE 3.4.2 and not 3.4.0 which was used by 5.4-REL; > What is the point in installing a > new release of FreeBSD and using 'old' ports. > > Just install FreeBSD 6.0 and use the packages provided with the RELEASE, > or cvsup your ports tree and do a fresh install of the ports you need. My point was that I don't have a fast Internet link at home to fetch all the (new) sources for the distfiles and I was looking for distfiles on CD which match exactly the 6.0-REL ports collection requirements; matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:10:00 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 04:58:14PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas escribió: The distfiles are the sources of the ported programs. I know. They are not specific to a single release. You can just copy over the distfiles from the older notebook and rebuild your ports. That's not true. I copied over the /usr/ports/distfiles from my 5.4-REL to the 6.0-REL but the ports-collection which comes with 6.0-REL will use other sources while doing 'make install' in /usr/ports/x11/kde: Well, since 6.0 came out much after 5.4, it uses updated ports/ packages (new features, bugfixes), so the versions of some ports of 6.0 will be higher than of 5.4. What is the point in installing a new release of FreeBSD and using 'old' ports. Just install FreeBSD 6.0 and use the packages provided with the RELEASE, or cvsup your ports tree and do a fresh install of the ports you need. Andreas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 04:58:14PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas escribió: > On 2005-12-29 15:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm installing a brand new notebook and have to do it with 6.0-REL > > because the SATA support; so I can't use my 1 GByte distfiles of the > > 5.4-REL which I have on the older notebook; is there somehow a place > > to download isos of the distfiles? I know that I could buy them but > > not right now here in Germany before the weekend :-( > > The distfiles are the sources of the ported programs. I know. > They are > not specific to a single release. You can just copy over the > distfiles from the older notebook and rebuild your ports. That's not true. I copied over the /usr/ports/distfiles from my 5.4-REL to the 6.0-REL but the ports-collection which comes with 6.0-REL will use other sources while doing 'make install' in /usr/ports/x11/kde: 5.4-REL: $ ls -lutr libtoo* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2699923 29 dic 13:17 libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 538884 29 dic 13:18 libtool-1.3.5.tar.gz $ cd KDE $ ls -lutr kdeba* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 22670772 29 dic 13:18 kdebase-3.4.0.tar.bz2 6.0-REL: $ ls -lutr libtoo* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2699923 Dec 29 13:17 libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2780846 Dec 29 13:28 libtool-1.5.18.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 538884 Dec 29 14:10 libtool-1.3.5.tar.gz $ cd KDE $ ls -lutr kdeba* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 22670772 Dec 29 13:18 kdebase-3.4.0.tar.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 22466433 Dec 29 15:37 kdebase-3.4.2.tar.bz2 > There is no such thing as "an ISO of distfiles". Thx. matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
On 2005-12-29 15:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm installing a brand new notebook and have to do it with 6.0-REL > because the SATA support; so I can't use my 1 GByte distfiles of the > 5.4-REL which I have on the older notebook; is there somehow a place > to download isos of the distfiles? I know that I could buy them but > not right now here in Germany before the weekend :-( The distfiles are the sources of the ported programs. They are not specific to a single release. You can just copy over the distfiles from the older notebook and rebuild your ports. There is no such thing as "an ISO of distfiles". ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
El día Thursday, December 29, 2005 a las 09:44:54AM -0500, Jerry McAllister escribió: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm installing a brand new notebook and have to do it with 6.0-REL > > because the SATA support; so I can't use my 1 GByte distfiles of > > the 5.4-REL which I have on the older notebook; is there somehow > > a place to download isos of the distfiles? I know that I could buy > > them but not right now here in Germany before the weekend :-( > > Check out the handbook on the FreeBSD website. IT will tell you what > you need to know. That's exactly what I did before: reading chap. "4.5.2.1 Installing Ports from a CD-ROM" and so I know what I do and what I'm asking for (it's not the 1st FreeBSD installation); > Anyway, the ISOs are all available at ftp.freebsd.org > There are mirror sites in various places around the world too. > Log in as anonymous with a password of your Email address. that was the second step looking around below ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.0 (and other places) but I only see the isos for CD1, CD2 and CD-bootonly, but not the ports; Pls. be so kind and send me the correct URL. Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
> > > Hi, > > I'm installing a brand new notebook and have to do it with 6.0-REL > because the SATA support; so I can't use my 1 GByte distfiles of > the 5.4-REL which I have on the older notebook; is there somehow > a place to download isos of the distfiles? I know that I could buy > them but not right now here in Germany before the weekend :-( Check out the handbook on the FreeBSD website. IT will tell you what you need to know. Anyway, the ISOs are all available at ftp.freebsd.org There are mirror sites in various places around the world too. Log in as anonymous with a password of your Email address. jerry > > Thx > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH > ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) > D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g > Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 > http://www.sisis.de/ > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
6.0-REL && isos of distfiles
Hi, I'm installing a brand new notebook and have to do it with 6.0-REL because the SATA support; so I can't use my 1 GByte distfiles of the 5.4-REL which I have on the older notebook; is there somehow a place to download isos of the distfiles? I know that I could buy them but not right now here in Germany before the weekend :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
