Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Kris Kennaway wrote: > Ivan Voras wrote: >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> What do you expect is wrong with the 6.x jdk running under >>> compatibility? >> >> I don't expect it, I'm talking from personal experience (confirmed by >> occasional reports on mailing lists). > > Fine, so in your personal experience, what is the problem? "Just like > with ZFS", bug reports that do not contain sufficient details are useless. > > It's sort of tiresome to keep receiving these vague complaints wrapped > up in insinuations from someone with sufficient development experience > to do better. You're right, sorry about that. The thing is that I sometimes get carried away and try to use new shiny things in production, where I can't spend downtime debugging problems that, in theory, shouldn't exist. That's why my reports are sometimes (though not always - I've sent a lot of tracebacks and offered many kernel core dumps for ZFS) are vague. I find that many of the problems I encountered are difficult to reproduce in controlled environment. Yes, ZFS was always tagged experimental, and strictly speaking I really shouldn't use java on 7.0 at all since there are no Sun-blessed binaries. Though I think that as an early adopter my reports at least showed future users what *not* to do :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Ivan Voras wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: What do you expect is wrong with the 6.x jdk running under compatibility? I don't expect it, I'm talking from personal experience (confirmed by occasional reports on mailing lists). Fine, so in your personal experience, what is the problem? "Just like with ZFS", bug reports that do not contain sufficient details are useless. It's sort of tiresome to keep receiving these vague complaints wrapped up in insinuations from someone with sufficient development experience to do better. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Kris Kennaway wrote: > What do you expect is wrong with the 6.x jdk running under compatibility? I don't expect it, I'm talking from personal experience (confirmed by occasional reports on mailing lists). (What's wrong with it is that if it's not near 100% reliable, it's unusable, much like ZFS :), and for purely selfish reasons - if it crashes, I get called in the middle of the night to fix it). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
El día Wednesday, April 09, 2008 a las 05:12:05PM +0200, Kris Kennaway escribió: > Ivan Voras wrote: > >Matthias Apitz wrote: > >>Hello, > >> > >>I'm used to use 'freemind' (and used 0.8.0 a lot in FreeBSD 6.2); since > >>the update to 7.0-REL and freemind as 0.8.1 from ports it is unusable > >>because it crashes randomly, sometimes it does not even comes up without > >>any message, sometimes it crashes by its own while I'm working in some > >>other part of the KDE 3.5.8 desktop; does someone face the same problem? > >>thanks in advance for a tip; > > > >FreeMind is a java application and since there's still no official Java > >for FreeBSD 7, you're probably lucky it works at all :) > > > > What do you expect is wrong with the 6.x jdk running under compatibility? > > Kris I have 'make install'ed /usr/ports/java/jdk15 and adjusted the the launcher script /usr/local/bin/freemind to its Java engine: JAVA_VERSION="1.4+" "/usr/local/jdk1.5.0/bin/java" -cp "${CLASSPATH}" freemind.main.FreeMind "${FILE}" works now without any crash so far; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Ivan Voras wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm used to use 'freemind' (and used 0.8.0 a lot in FreeBSD 6.2); since the update to 7.0-REL and freemind as 0.8.1 from ports it is unusable because it crashes randomly, sometimes it does not even comes up without any message, sometimes it crashes by its own while I'm working in some other part of the KDE 3.5.8 desktop; does someone face the same problem? thanks in advance for a tip; FreeMind is a java application and since there's still no official Java for FreeBSD 7, you're probably lucky it works at all :) What do you expect is wrong with the 6.x jdk running under compatibility? Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
El día Wednesday, April 09, 2008 a las 03:35:09PM +0200, Ivan Voras escribió: > Yes, it's expected that it will work with a supported version of the > operating system. Remember, you changed the entire operating system by > going from 6.2 to 7.0. > > Try building native java and all its dependencies from ports. > ok, I will try to build /usr/ports/java/jdk15 thx for the tip matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Wednesday, April 09, 2008 a las 02:48:18PM +0200, Ivan Voras escribió: > >> Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm used to use 'freemind' (and used 0.8.0 a lot in FreeBSD 6.2); since >>> the update to 7.0-REL and freemind as 0.8.1 from ports it is unusable >>> because it crashes randomly, sometimes it does not even comes up without >>> any message, sometimes it crashes by its own while I'm working in some >>> other part of the KDE 3.5.8 desktop; does someone face the same problem? >>> thanks in advance for a tip; >> FreeMind is a java application and since there's still no official Java >> for FreeBSD 7, you're probably lucky it works at all :) >> > > but it worked fine with the Java engine I've had in FreeBSD 6.2R; will > test some others of the Java engines from the ports... Yes, it's expected that it will work with a supported version of the operating system. Remember, you changed the entire operating system by going from 6.2 to 7.0. Try building native java and all its dependencies from ports. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
El día Wednesday, April 09, 2008 a las 02:48:18PM +0200, Ivan Voras escribió: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm used to use 'freemind' (and used 0.8.0 a lot in FreeBSD 6.2); since > > the update to 7.0-REL and freemind as 0.8.1 from ports it is unusable > > because it crashes randomly, sometimes it does not even comes up without > > any message, sometimes it crashes by its own while I'm working in some > > other part of the KDE 3.5.8 desktop; does someone face the same problem? > > thanks in advance for a tip; > > FreeMind is a java application and since there's still no official Java > for FreeBSD 7, you're probably lucky it works at all :) > but it worked fine with the Java engine I've had in FreeBSD 6.2R; will test some others of the Java engines from the ports... matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I'm used to use 'freemind' (and used 0.8.0 a lot in FreeBSD 6.2); since > the update to 7.0-REL and freemind as 0.8.1 from ports it is unusable > because it crashes randomly, sometimes it does not even comes up without > any message, sometimes it crashes by its own while I'm working in some > other part of the KDE 3.5.8 desktop; does someone face the same problem? > thanks in advance for a tip; FreeMind is a java application and since there's still no official Java for FreeBSD 7, you're probably lucky it works at all :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly
Hello, I'm used to use 'freemind' (and used 0.8.0 a lot in FreeBSD 6.2); since the update to 7.0-REL and freemind as 0.8.1 from ports it is unusable because it crashes randomly, sometimes it does not even comes up without any message, sometimes it crashes by its own while I'm working in some other part of the KDE 3.5.8 desktop; does someone face the same problem? thanks in advance for a tip; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"