Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
Hi, 2) please advice me If I buy this machine is that a wise decision or refurbished machines are of high risk ? You have to ponder the fact that notebook are always fragile machines: - they are moved around often, so more subject to miss handeling (a notebook is more likely to fall from your lap than a desktop is likely to fall from your desk) - they are compact, less ventilation, more subject to over heating = component aging faster - they use smaller components, so less robusts I would always buy a new machine if I can. I hope you have a waranty that comes with your refurbished machine. Bests, olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
I need an advice from FreeBSD users. I would like to buy a refurbished notebook from IBM. Model IBM T60I heard T60 series are excellent ? i heard too. but my T23 is :) Please see this URL and apecifications of the notebook http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018425958881storeId=1langId=-1categoryId=2576396dualCurrId=73catalogId=-840 I want to know 1) whether this notebook go well with FreeBSD-7.x versions ? should work. buying used older machine is actually low risk route. newer are usually less compatible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
My loader.conf includes a few thinkpad-specific bits, like: # Intel wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN driver options. legal.intel_iwn.license_ack=1 if_iwn_load=YES # Autoloaded modules. acpi_ibm_load=YES snd_hda_load=YES i needed only last 2 lines on my T31. Anyway acpi_ibm is really useful, like dev.acpi_ibm sysctl node - setting manual/automatic fan speeds etc. It is not obvious from the webpage you pasted if the T60 you are going to buy uses an Intel or ATI VGA chipset. I generally opt for Intel VGA At least intels are really supported with open sources. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
You have to ponder the fact that notebook are always fragile machines: - they are moved around often, so more subject to miss handeling (a notebook is more likely to fall from your lap than a desktop is likely to fall from your desk) - they are compact, less ventilation, more subject to over heating = component aging faster - they use smaller components, so less robusts And the newer notebook is - the more cheaply it's made.. If you have old and new laptop, most probably new one will break first ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
On Fri 10 Jul 2009 at 07:10:20 PDT Wojciech Puchar wrote: You have to ponder the fact that notebook are always fragile machines: - they are moved around often, so more subject to miss handeling (a notebook is more likely to fall from your lap than a desktop is likely to fall from your desk) - they are compact, less ventilation, more subject to over heating = component aging faster - they use smaller components, so less robusts And the newer notebook is - the more cheaply it's made.. If you have old and new laptop, most probably new one will break first ;) In my experience, electronic parts fail within a year of manufacture if they're going to fail at all. Heat-related problems are mainly of two kinds: bad solder joints and parts that are drawing more current than they're spec'd to do. Both kinds of problems usually shake out in the first year. Mechanical problems, otoh, are the bane of portable devices. If I were buying a used notebook, I'd take a close look at the hinges, switches, keyboard and any other moving parts. I'd factor in the cost of a new harddrive as it's very likely to need one -- if not now, soon. I've also had numerous problems with the sockets for the AC adaptor plug. I think that design was intended for stationary devices, not devices that you're holding on your lap and moving around a lot while they're plugged in. (Not to mention tripping over the cord!) After a while they seem to come loose and the plug no longer makes good contact. In one case, I had to open up the machine and resolder the socket to the board. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
Fellow BSDians, I need an advice from FreeBSD users. I would like to buy a refurbished notebook from IBM. Model IBM T60I heard T60 series are excellent ? Please see this URL and apecifications of the notebook http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018425958881storeId=1langId=-1categoryId=2576396dualCurrId=73catalogId=-840 I want to know 1) whether this notebook go well with FreeBSD-7.x versions ? I want to use only FreeBSD on this notebook with X window system + Gnome Desktop, 2) please advice me If I buy this machine is that a wise decision or refurbished machines are of high risk ? any thoughts most welcome. Thanks in advance Dhanesh _ Live Search extreme As India feels the heat of poll season, get all the info you need on the MSN News Aggregator http://news.in.msn.com/National/indiaelections2009/aggregator/default.aspx___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:59:43 +, dhaneshk k dhanes...@hotmail.com wrote: Fellow BSDians, I need an advice from FreeBSD users. I would like to buy a refurbished notebook from IBM. Model IBM T60I heard T60 series are excellent ? I'm using FreeBSD/GNOME as my main environment on a Thinkpad X61s, and my experience so far has been excellent. The *only* bit of hardware that doesn't attach to a working driver is the fingerprint reader, which I don't really have a use for. My loader.conf includes a few thinkpad-specific bits, like: # Intel wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN driver options. legal.intel_iwn.license_ack=1 if_iwn_load=YES # Autoloaded modules. acpi_ibm_load=YES snd_hda_load=YES and I disable the internal Bluetooth support in sysctl.conf: # Disable the internal Bluetooth device of Thinkpad X61s by default. dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth=0 but other than these pretty simple configuration options, everything 'Just Works(TM)' :) One last thing that is worth mentioning: It is not obvious from the webpage you pasted if the T60 you are going to buy uses an Intel or ATI VGA chipset. I generally opt for Intel VGA chipsets, when I have a choice. They tend to work slightly better on the laptop's I've seen so far. I want to know 1) whether this notebook go well with FreeBSD-7.x versions ? I want to use only FreeBSD on this notebook with X window system + Gnome Desktop, This should work fine. 2) please advice me If I buy this machine is that a wise decision or refurbished machines are of high risk ? This is something I cannot really answer. I bought mine from a friend, whom I trusted enough. Depending on the source, there is an inherent risk in buying 'used' parts, but it all boils down to how much you trust the seller. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Advise for buying a Refurbished machine
Hi, you must cosinder only one thing. I have seen some of them with horizontal lines in their LCD. I could not find out the real cause if it. Just check it before you get it. I think, you should get a good deal as those machines are robust. Erich On 10 July 2009 pm 12:59:43 dhaneshk k wrote: Fellow BSDians, I need an advice from FreeBSD users. I would like to buy a refurbished notebook from IBM. Model IBM T60I heard T60 series are excellent ? Please see this URL and apecifications of the notebook http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ default/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018425958881storeId=1l angId=-1categoryId=2576396dualCurrId=73catalogId=-840 I want to know 1) whether this notebook go well with FreeBSD-7.x versions ? I want to use only FreeBSD on this notebook with X window system + Gnome Desktop, 2) please advice me If I buy this machine is that a wise decision or refurbished machines are of high risk ? any thoughts most welcome. Thanks in advance Dhanesh ___ __ Live Search extreme As India feels the heat of poll season, get all the info you need on the MSN News Aggregator http://news.in.msn.com/National/indiaelections2009/aggregator/d efault.aspx___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
