Re: BIOS update saga - the end

2012-11-13 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From lenzi.ser...@gmail.com Tue Nov 13 16:17:49 2012

That is one of the reasons I stop buying HP products
specially laptops.. and sony vaio as well..

the last one I have is a z6000 that is still working very well with
FreeBSD10.

HP notebooks are "closed"  works only with windows, are expensive
consumes too much power, the bateries did not last...

regarding the power and weak batteries - this is my experience too.

I live in Brazil and here one HP costs about 750 euros... a sony vaio is
about 800 euros,

I bought recently a Lenovo G475 (14inch LED display) notebook brand new,
for 350 euros with 2Gb of memory,
320Gb of HD, atheros wifi, dvd rw, AMD radeon video, dual core... I
bought more 4Gb of memory
for 30 euros, and the notebook is now with 6Gb...

ok, I might look at this model, thanks for the hint.

Last week I bought a 15 inch notebook at the shopping near my home,
with the same amd chip, wifi, large keyboard with separated numeric key,
4Gb memory, 500Gb disk for 320 euros (no brand name)...

any of them works very well with FreeBSD, NetBSD or Linux...

A friend of mine bought 10 of those for his company employees.. 
it is cheapper than upgrade de desktops


That is my experience


Sergio

Anton

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Re: BIOS update saga - the end

2012-11-13 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
That is one of the reasons I stop buying HP products
specially laptops.. and sony vaio as well..

the last one I have is a z6000 that is still working very well with
FreeBSD10.

HP notebooks are "closed"  works only with windows, are expensive
consumes too much power, the bateries did not last...

I live in Brazil and here one HP costs about 750 euros... a sony vaio is
about 800 euros,


I bought recently a Lenovo G475 (14inch LED display) notebook brand new,
for 350 euros with 2Gb of memory,
320Gb of HD, atheros wifi, dvd rw, AMD radeon video, dual core... I
bought more 4Gb of memory
for 30 euros, and the notebook is now with 6Gb...

Last week I bought a 15 inch notebook at the shopping near my home,
with the same amd chip, wifi, large keyboard with separated numeric key,
4Gb memory, 500Gb disk for 320 euros (no brand name)...

any of them works very well with FreeBSD, NetBSD or Linux...

A friend of mine bought 10 of those for his company employees.. 
it is cheapper than upgrade de desktops


That is my experience


Sergio

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BIOS update saga - the end

2012-11-04 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I can't find my original thread, so
starting a new one.

So I bought a spare laptop disk,
installed freedos on it, made
a usb memstick with HP BIOS updating
executable, and booted from it, only
to stop at:

"The BIOS on your notebook PC can not be updated.
Refer to HP Customer Advisory C01457784"

So I found this customer advisory
and there it is: "WinBond customers
cannot update the BIOS" [1].

So not only I am stuck with a broken
BIOS, but I can't update to a fixed
one either (nevermind the wasted hours
spent following HP instructions on
how to update the BIOS on my laptop!).

I quickly found another thread 
where somebody claims that HP asked
for nearly 400 euros to update the
motherboard, "to be able to update the BIOS!" [2].

I was angry at HP for this initially,
then I started laughing. This is a ridiculous
situation.

Anyway, now I'm wondering - I wanted
to buy an HP laptop because I've used
quite a lot of Compaq/HP server gear and
it generally is/was of excellent quality.
And the manuals still are of very high quality too.
So I wonder, am I just unlucky,
or did I want a good quality too cheaply?

Anton

[1] 
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=125&prodSeriesId=3368540&prodTypeId=321957&objectID=c01457784

[2] 
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-HP-ProBook-EliteBook/6715s-black-screen-problem/td-p/915244/page/5#.UJRCK1JvmnI
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