Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-11-03 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Reference:
> From: Snoop  
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100 
> Message-id:   <1320304710.17303.11.ca...@blackfriar.inhio.eu> 

Snoop wrote:
> Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for.
> 
> On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate.
> I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list.
> "Working instructions" are the most important information and have to be
> there. I also think that the "arp load balancing" section of CARP is not
> that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very
> specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open
> BSD man pages.

Man pages are easy to fix !
Just edit the source & send in a diff with send-pr.

Handbook pages are harder to edit, cos it uses a tool chain that always breaks 
for me, so editing source for that is harder,
but you can still use send-pr.

If necessary let the www@ team reverse your HTML diffs back to their
SGML or whatever ;-)


> 
> Thank you all for your time, have a good day.
> 
> On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Reference:
> > > From: Damien Fleuriot  
> > > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 
> > > Message-id:   <4eb16572.4080...@my.gd> 
> > 
> > Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> > > On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote:
> > > > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive 
> > > > reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow.
> > > > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel.
> > 
> > Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list.
> > Snoop wrote :
> > There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel
> > So Snoop must install modules !
> > # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC
> > cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install
> > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.
> > > > 
> > > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
> > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: 
> > > > __
> > > > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
> > > > described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
> > > > device carp
> > > > 
> > > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
> > > > following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
> > > > if_carp_load="YES" "
> > > > __
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
> > > > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
> > > > loader.conf.
> > > > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
> > > > working on any node.
> > > > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.
> > > > 
> > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > Any tip would be appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had
> > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* files .
> > > I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or 
> > > not.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > mybsd root  /boot/kernel
> > > 
> > >  # uname 
> > > -a
> > > FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST
> > > 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM  amd64
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  mybsd
> > > root  /boot/kernel
> > > 
> > ># ls -la
> > > /boot/kernel/if_carp*
> > > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko
> > > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  197856 Oct 12 17:11
> > > /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols
> > > 
> > > 
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> > Cheers,
> > Julian
> 
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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-11-03 Thread Snoop
Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for.

On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate.
I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list.
"Working instructions" are the most important information and have to be
there. I also think that the "arp load balancing" section of CARP is not
that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very
specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open
BSD man pages.

Thank you all for your time, have a good day.

On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> Hi,
> Reference:
> > From:   Damien Fleuriot  
> > Date:   Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 
> > Message-id: <4eb16572.4080...@my.gd> 
> 
> Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> > On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote:
> > > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive 
> > > reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow.
> > > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel.
> 
> Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list.
> Snoop wrote :
>   There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel
> So Snoop must install modules !
>   # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC
>   cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install
> 
> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi everybody,
> > > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.
> > > 
> > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: 
> > > __
> > > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
> > > described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
> > > device carp
> > > 
> > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
> > > following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
> > > if_carp_load="YES" "
> > > __
> > > 
> > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
> > > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
> > > loader.conf.
> > > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
> > > working on any node.
> > > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.
> > > 
> > > Am I missing something?
> > > Any tip would be appreciated.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had
> > /boot/kernel/if_carp* files .
> > I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not.
> > 
> > 
> > Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box:
> > 
> > 
> > mybsd root  /boot/kernel
> > 
> >  # uname -a
> > FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST
> > 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM  amd64
> > 
> > 
> >  mybsd
> > root  /boot/kernel
> > 
> ># ls -la
> > /boot/kernel/if_carp*
> > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko
> > -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  197856 Oct 12 17:11
> > /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols
> > 
> > 
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> 
> Cheers,
> Julian


 
 
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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-11-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Reference:
> From: Damien Fleuriot  
> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 
> Message-id:   <4eb16572.4080...@my.gd> 

Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote:
> > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive 
> > reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow.
> > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel.

Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list.
Snoop wrote :
There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel
So Snoop must install modules !
# cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC
cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install


> > 
> > 
> > Hi everybody,
> > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.
> > 
> > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: 
> > __
> > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
> > described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
> > device carp
> > 
> > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
> > following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
> > if_carp_load="YES" "
> > __
> > 
> > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
> > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
> > loader.conf.
> > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
> > working on any node.
> > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.
> > 
> > Am I missing something?
> > Any tip would be appreciated.
> > 
> 
> 
> You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had
> /boot/kernel/if_carp* files .
> I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not.
> 
> 
> Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box:
> 
> 
> mybsd root  /boot/kernel
> 
>  # uname -a
> FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST
> 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM  amd64
> 
> 
>  mybsd
> root  /boot/kernel
> 
># ls -la
> /boot/kernel/if_carp*
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  197856 Oct 12 17:11
> /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols
> 
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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-11-02 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote:
> Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. 
> I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow.
> P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel.
> 
> 
> Hi everybody,
> I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.
> 
> In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: 
> __
> "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
> described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
> device carp
> 
> Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
> following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
> if_carp_load="YES" "
> __
> 
> I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
> while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
> loader.conf.
> I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
> working on any node.
> I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> Any tip would be appreciated.
> 


You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had
/boot/kernel/if_carp* files .
I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not.


Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box:


mybsd root  /boot/kernel

 # uname -a
FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST
2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM  amd64


 mybsd
root  /boot/kernel

   # ls -la
/boot/kernel/if_carp*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  197856 Oct 12 17:11
/boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols


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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-11-01 Thread claudiu vasadi
What;s the reason for not being able to load the module ?
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CARP related trivial question

2011-11-01 Thread Snoop
Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I 
can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow.
P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel.


Hi everybody,
I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.

In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: 
__
"To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
device carp

Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
if_carp_load="YES" "
__

I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
loader.conf.
I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
working on any node.
I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.

Am I missing something?
Any tip would be appreciated.


 
 
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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-10-28 Thread Snoop
Thanks for replying Dave,
that's the problem. There's no module and apparently it's supposed to be
there. Ready to be loaded. :-O
Mistake in the FreeBSD handbook?

On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 14:14 -0700, Robison, Dave wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 12:20, Snoop wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.
> >
> > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html:
> > __
> > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
> > described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
> > device carp
> >
> > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
> > following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
> > if_carp_load="YES" "
> > __
> >
> > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
> > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
> > loader.conf.
> > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
> > working on any node.
> > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> > Any tip would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> Does if_carp.ko exist under /boot/kernel/ ?
> 
> If so:
> [root@lefty] ~# ls -lart /boot/kernel | grep if_carp
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel197392 Feb 16  2011 if_carp.ko.symbols
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 44336 Feb 16  2011 if_carp.ko
> [root@lefty] ~# kldload if_carp.ko
> [root@lefty] ~# kldstat | grep if_carp.ko
> 471 0x814fe000 4dd0 if_carp.ko
> [root@lefty] ~#
> 
> should work.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 


 
 
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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-10-26 Thread Robison, Dave

On 10/26/2011 12:20, Snoop wrote:

Hi everybody,
I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.

In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html:
__
"To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
device carp

Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
if_carp_load="YES" "
__

I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
loader.conf.
I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
working on any node.
I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.

Am I missing something?
Any tip would be appreciated.



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Does if_carp.ko exist under /boot/kernel/ ?

If so:
[root@lefty] ~# ls -lart /boot/kernel | grep if_carp
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel197392 Feb 16  2011 if_carp.ko.symbols
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 44336 Feb 16  2011 if_carp.ko
[root@lefty] ~# kldload if_carp.ko
[root@lefty] ~# kldstat | grep if_carp.ko
471 0x814fe000 4dd0 if_carp.ko
[root@lefty] ~#

should work.

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CARP related trivial question

2011-10-26 Thread Snoop
Hi everybody,
I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.

In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: 
__
"To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
device carp

Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
if_carp_load="YES" "
__

I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
loader.conf.
I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
working on any node.
I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.

Am I missing something?
Any tip would be appreciated.

 
 
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