DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-25 Thread Fierman
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 15:03, Volker Kindermann wrote:
> > ACD0 is only the DVD , CD-RW (a Liteon 52x 24x 52x)
> > isn't found at all!! Literally from DMESG:
> > 
> > ata0-slave: ATA identify retries excedeed
> > 
> > and sometimes it doesn't find my DVD too , with the
> > message :
> > 
> > ata1-slave: ATA identify retries excedeed
> > 
> > so, I'm without CD and DVD :cry:
> > 
> > What I can do??
> 
> first, you should check if the jumpers on all (!) ATA devices are set
> correctly:
> 
> Set the masters to "master" and the DVD and CDRW to "slave" (not
> cable-select).
> 
> If that doesn't help, check the cables. Perhaps you have some spare
> cables and you can change them.
> 
> If that doesn't help, provide us with your complete dmesg.
>  -volker
> ___

this problem sounds like the exact one as i am having, (see my mail to
this list:

  Subject: 
ATA identify retries exceeded
(still!)
 Date: 
24 Jul 2003 23:59:57 +


jumpersettings are all ok, no possible signs of hardware itself being
faulty.

dmesg :

Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Wed Jul  9 15:27:44 CEST 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kernel100703
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Intel Celeron (1002.28-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x68a  Stepping = 10
 
Features=0x383f9ff
real memory  = 133169152 (130048K bytes)
config> di bt0
config> di aic0
config> di aha0
config> di adv0
config> q
avail memory = 123887616 (120984K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc058f000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc058f09c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 4 entries at 0xc00fdf30
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0:  on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
agp0:  mem
0xd600-0xd607,0xd000-0xd3ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0
pcib1:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
sis0:  port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem
0xd500-0xd5000fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1
sis0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:09:84:d3:2c
miibus0:  on sis0
ukphy0:  on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
pcm0:  port 0xc400-0xc4ff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci1
pci1:  (vendor=0x13f6, dev=0x0211) at 5.1 irq 3
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 31.1
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0:  port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 4 at
device 31.2 on pci0
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
orm0:  at iomem 0xc-0xc9fff,0xcc000-0xc on isa0
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on
isa0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus0
ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded
ad0: 38172MB  [77557/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a



thnx in advance, 
fierman



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Re: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-25 Thread Mica Telodico
Yes , your message is identical to mine .
 
And the dmesg is also similar too ( but the drives are
different)

What is your HW? (CPU , MoBo and drive with problems) 

Bye

Marcello


--- Fierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Fri,
2003-07-25 at 15:03, Volker Kindermann
> wrote:
> > > ACD0 is only the DVD , CD-RW (a Liteon 52x 24x
> 52x)
> > > isn't found at all!! Literally from DMESG:
> > > 
> > > ata0-slave: ATA identify retries excedeed
> > > 
> > > and sometimes it doesn't find my DVD too , with
> the
> > > message :
> > > 
> > > ata1-slave: ATA identify retries excedeed
> > > 
> > > so, I'm without CD and DVD :cry:
> > > 
> > > What I can do??
> > 
> > first, you should check if the jumpers on all (!)
> ATA devices are set
> > correctly:
> > 
> > Set the masters to "master" and the DVD and CDRW
> to "slave" (not
> > cable-select).
> > 
> > If that doesn't help, check the cables. Perhaps
> you have some spare
> > cables and you can change them.
> > 
> > If that doesn't help, provide us with your
> complete dmesg.
> >  -volker
> > ___
> 
> this problem sounds like the exact one as i am
> having, (see my mail to
> this list:
> 
>   Subject: 
> ATA identify retries exceeded
> (still!)
>  Date: 
> 24 Jul 2003 23:59:57 +
> 
> 
> jumpersettings are all ok, no possible signs of
> hardware itself being
> faulty.
> 
> dmesg :
> 
> Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,
> 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> The Regents of the University of California.
> All rights
> reserved.
> FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Wed Jul  9 15:27:44 CEST 2003
>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kernel100703
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Intel Celeron (1002.28-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x68a  Stepping = 10
>  
>
Features=0x383f9ff
> real memory  = 133169152 (130048K bytes)
> config> di bt0
> config> di aic0
> config> di aha0
> config> di adv0
> config> q
> avail memory = 123887616 (120984K bytes)
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc058f000.
> Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at
> 0xc058f09c.
> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
> md0: Malloc disk
> Using $PIR table, 4 entries at 0xc00fdf30
> npx0:  on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> pcib0:  bridge> on motherboard
> pci0:  on pcib0
> agp0: 
> mem
> 0xd600-0xd607,0xd000-0xd3ff irq 11
> at device 1.0 on pci0
> pcib1:  at
> device 30.0 on pci0
> pci1:  on pcib1
> sis0:  port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem
> 0xd500-0xd5000fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1
> sis0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:09:84:d3:2c
> miibus0:  on sis0
> ukphy0:  on
> miibus0
> ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX,
> 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> pcm0:  port 0xc400-0xc4ff irq 10 at
> device 5.0 on pci1
> pci1:  (vendor=0x13f6, dev=0x0211) at
> 5.1 irq 3
> isab0:  at
> device 31.0 on pci0
> isa0:  on isab0
> atapci0:  port
> 0xf000-0xf00f at device 31.1
> on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> uhci0:  port
> 0xd000-0xd01f irq 4 at
> device 31.2 on pci0
> usb0:  on uhci0
> usb0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
> 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> orm0:  at iomem
> 0xc-0xc9fff,0xcc000-0xc on isa0
> fdc0:  at port
> 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
> isa0
> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
> atkbdc0:  at port
> 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
> kbd0 at atkbd0
> psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
> 0xa-0xb on
> isa0
> sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs
> 0
> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> sio0: type 8250
> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs
> 0
> ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on
> isa0
> ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE
> mode
> ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold
> plip0:  on ppbus0
> lpt0:  on ppbus0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> ppi0:  on ppbus0
> ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded
> ad0: 38172MB  [77557/16/63] at
> ata0-master UDMA33
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> 
> 
> 
> thnx in advance, 
> fierman
> 
> 
> 
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RE: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-25 Thread Fierman
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 16:48, Joshua Lokken wrote:

> >
> > this problem sounds like the exact one as i am having, (see
> > my mail to
> > this list:
> >
> >   Subject:
> > ATA identify retries exceeded
> > (still!)
> >  Date:
> > 24 Jul 2003 23:59:57 +
> >
> >
> > jumpersettings are all ok, no possible signs of hardware
> > itself being faulty.
> > dmesg :
> 
> > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> > ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded
> > ad0: 38172MB  [77557/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
> > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> 
> 
> ???  Except that the board won't detect it?  I think, if you've
> checked
> cables and jumpers (and they're proper), that the likely possibility
> is
> hardware damage.  I don't know whether or not the drive is new, but
> new certainly doesn't equal good.  Maybe at least consider it.  If you
> can find another drive to test, try that.  HTH,
> 
> Joshua
> 

dont know if you didn't send this mail to the list intentionally, but
thanx for the reply anyway :)

yes, like I said in my previous mail to this list as well, I DID try
other DVD players.. all with the same result. Also, the POST never gives
any error message, as I suppose it should do with broken hardware.

there are 2 possible solutions in my mind:
1. ATA driver is still somewhat broken,
2. There should be a way to adjust the time-out in the authentification
routine in the ATA driver (if there is any, that is). 


cheers, Fierman


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RE: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-26 Thread Mica Telodico
Hi all again :D

I've made some triee , and these are the results:

Normal Configuration
ATA1 Master: MAXTOR HD 60GB
 Slave : Liteon 52x 24x 52x

ATA2 Master: Quantum Fireball HD 30GB
 Slave : NEC DV-5800 

I get the problems described in the previous messages

New Conf
ATA1 Master: Maxtor HD 60GB
 Slave : Quantum Fireball HD 30GB
ATA2 Master: Liteon 52x 24x 52x
 Slave : NEC DV-5800

No problems. All works correctly (both CD drives are
initialized) 

I don't know why this, probably my MoBo is a bit slow
in responding with ATA devices when have to initialize
them. I had some problems with my precedent CDRW (a
philips 8x 4x 32x) , but this time with Linux too
(hang at boot) . Linux have solved this problem (I've
posted a bug report to Vojitek Pavlik that have worked
to eliminate this problem) , but FreeBSD have this
again (but with my old CDRW the drive didn't work with
all possible configuration , with this one changing
the position of the drives solves the problem ) now ,
I think that could be a good idea increase the timeout
time , in order to eliminate this problem in the
future and make FreeBSD more compatible with ATA
drives and ATA Controllers, at the cost of some
millisecond longer boot-time :)

Bye 
Marcello


 --- Fierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Fri,
2003-07-25 at 16:48, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > this problem sounds like the exact one as i am
> having, (see
> > > my mail to
> > > this list:
> > >
> > >   Subject:
> > > ATA identify retries exceeded
> > > (still!)
> > >  Date:
> > > 24 Jul 2003 23:59:57 +
> > >
> > >
> > > jumpersettings are all ok, no possible signs of
> hardware
> > > itself being faulty.
> > > dmesg :
> > 
> > > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> > > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> > > ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded
> > > ad0: 38172MB  [77557/16/63] at
> ata0-master UDMA33
> > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> > 
> > 
> > ???  Except that the board won't detect it?  I
> think, if you've
> > checked
> > cables and jumpers (and they're proper), that the
> likely possibility
> > is
> > hardware damage.  I don't know whether or not the
> drive is new, but
> > new certainly doesn't equal good.  Maybe at least
> consider it.  If you
> > can find another drive to test, try that.  HTH,
> > 
> > Joshua
> > 
> 
> dont know if you didn't send this mail to the list
> intentionally, but
> thanx for the reply anyway :)
> 
> yes, like I said in my previous mail to this list as
> well, I DID try
> other DVD players.. all with the same result. Also,
> the POST never gives
> any error message, as I suppose it should do with
> broken hardware.
> 
> there are 2 possible solutions in my mind:
> 1. ATA driver is still somewhat broken,
> 2. There should be a way to adjust the time-out in
> the authentification
> routine in the ATA driver (if there is any, that
> is). 
> 
> 
> cheers, Fierman
> 
> 
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Re: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-26 Thread Peter Rosa
It's because (as I know from some old articles) if you connect
one device with high-speed, and second with lower speed
onto the same cable, they will BOTH use the lower speed.
And it may be problematic for some new HDD, to be
as slow as CD is (using PIO, or UDMA-33) (although
they all say about standards conformity etc.).

Peter Rosa


- Original Message -
From: "Mica Telodico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Joshua Lokken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)


> Hi all again :D
>
> I've made some triee , and these are the results:
>
> Normal Configuration
> ATA1 Master: MAXTOR HD 60GB
>  Slave : Liteon 52x 24x 52x
>
> ATA2 Master: Quantum Fireball HD 30GB
>  Slave : NEC DV-5800
>
> I get the problems described in the previous messages
>
> New Conf
> ATA1 Master: Maxtor HD 60GB
>  Slave : Quantum Fireball HD 30GB
> ATA2 Master: Liteon 52x 24x 52x
>  Slave : NEC DV-5800
>
> No problems. All works correctly (both CD drives are
> initialized)
>
> I don't know why this, probably my MoBo is a bit slow
> in responding with ATA devices when have to initialize
> them. I had some problems with my precedent CDRW (a
> philips 8x 4x 32x) , but this time with Linux too
> (hang at boot) . Linux have solved this problem (I've
> posted a bug report to Vojitek Pavlik that have worked
> to eliminate this problem) , but FreeBSD have this
> again (but with my old CDRW the drive didn't work with
> all possible configuration , with this one changing
> the position of the drives solves the problem ) now ,
> I think that could be a good idea increase the timeout
> time , in order to eliminate this problem in the
> future and make FreeBSD more compatible with ATA
> drives and ATA Controllers, at the cost of some
> millisecond longer boot-time :)
>
> Bye
> Marcello
>
>
>  --- Fierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Fri,
> 2003-07-25 at 16:48, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > this problem sounds like the exact one as i am
> > having, (see
> > > > my mail to
> > > > this list:
> > > >
> > > >   Subject:
> > > > ATA identify retries exceeded
> > > > (still!)
> > > >  Date:
> > > > 24 Jul 2003 23:59:57 +
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > jumpersettings are all ok, no possible signs of
> > hardware
> > > > itself being faulty.
> > > > dmesg :
> > >
> > > > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> > > > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> > > > ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded
> > > > ad0: 38172MB  [77557/16/63] at
> > ata0-master UDMA33
> > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> > >
> > >
> > > ???  Except that the board won't detect it?  I
> > think, if you've
> > > checked
> > > cables and jumpers (and they're proper), that the
> > likely possibility
> > > is
> > > hardware damage.  I don't know whether or not the
> > drive is new, but
> > > new certainly doesn't equal good.  Maybe at least
> > consider it.  If you
> > > can find another drive to test, try that.  HTH,
> > >
> > > Joshua
> > >
> >
> > dont know if you didn't send this mail to the list
> > intentionally, but
> > thanx for the reply anyway :)
> >
> > yes, like I said in my previous mail to this list as
> > well, I DID try
> > other DVD players.. all with the same result. Also,
> > the POST never gives
> > any error message, as I suppose it should do with
> > broken hardware.
> >
> > there are 2 possible solutions in my mind:
> > 1. ATA driver is still somewhat broken,
> > 2. There should be a way to adjust the time-out in
> > the authentification
> > routine in the ATA driver (if there is any, that
> > is).
> >
> >
> > cheers, Fierman
> >
> >
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Re: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-26 Thread Mica Telodico
Do you think that? That I've used my HD as UDMA 33
Devices until now :eek: :O ??

Anyway I think that should be better resolve this
problem anyway , at least for compatibility reason

Bye

Marcello

 --- Peter Rosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > It's
because (as I know from some old articles) if
> you connect
> one device with high-speed, and second with lower
> speed
> onto the same cable, they will BOTH use the lower
> speed.
> And it may be problematic for some new HDD, to be
> as slow as CD is (using PIO, or UDMA-33) (although
> they all say about standards conformity etc.).
> 
> Peter Rosa
> 
> 

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Re: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-26 Thread Fierman
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 08:46, Peter Rosa wrote:
> It's because (as I know from some old articles) if you connect
> one device with high-speed, and second with lower speed
> onto the same cable, they will BOTH use the lower speed.
> And it may be problematic for some new HDD, to be
> as slow as CD is (using PIO, or UDMA-33) (although
> they all say about standards conformity etc.).
> 
> Peter Rosa
> 

sounds plausible, but then again,
I DID try :

- hw.ata.atapi_dma to "0" or "1" in /boot/loader.conf
- hw.ata.ata_dma to "0" or "1" in /boot/loader.conf

the HDD (a 2 year old 40 GB maxtor) works fine in pio mode..

It would be great if the ATA driver author could find some time/energy
to look into this..

cheers, Fierman
 




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Re: DVD/CD-RW not recognized (was: Re:)

2003-07-27 Thread Fierman
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 08:46, Peter Rosa wrote:
> It's because (as I know from some old articles) if you connect
> one device with high-speed, and second with lower speed
> onto the same cable, they will BOTH use the lower speed.
> And it may be problematic for some new HDD, to be
> as slow as CD is (using PIO, or UDMA-33) (although
> they all say about standards conformity etc.).
> 
> Peter Rosa
> 

sounds plausible, but then again,
I DID try :

- hw.ata.atapi_dma to "0" or "1" in /boot/loader.conf
- hw.ata.ata_dma to "0" or "1" in /boot/loader.conf

the HDD (a 2 year old 40 GB maxtor) works fine in pio mode..

It would be great if the ATA driver author could find some time/energy
to look into this..

cheers, Fierman
 




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