Re: Documentation Error?
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:19:07AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/confi > > > gtuning-v irtual-hosts.html > > > > > > states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: > > > > > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > > > > Shouldn't it be this instead? > > > > > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > > No. The actual command to make one is: > > > > ifconfig fxp0 inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias > > > > So you do need to pass the "inet" to ifconfig. The _alias0 makes > > the script pass the trailing "alias" > > H, So what is happening when no 'inet' is in the string? > It seems to work fine.Is something still not right and just > waiting to explode?We have lots of servers configured that way. Looking at ifconfig(8), I believe it's purely optional, ifconfig can reconize what address type your giving it. It's more useful when using ifconfig to display information. I've done it both ways and if your servers work now, I doubt they'll blow up later. It is probably something that was required in the past. > > jerry > > > > > Ted > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgpYQNExwthl0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Documentation Error?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason D. > Montgomery > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:55 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Jerry McAllister > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Documentation Error? > > > > Well one thing is that the 3c905 adapter (xl0) is known for > > problems under FreeBSD. > > Ah, that's sad - ALL of our older Dell servers use this NIC (and I only > run FreeBSD on them) - this could also explain odd intermittent network > problems I'm having on our mail server. > Yes, Dell liked these cards because 3com has always worked overtime to produce good stable windows drivers and as a result has a very good reputation among Windows admins. However, 3com (like other vendors) has in some cases made up for shortcomings in their hardware by writing patches into their drivers, and they DON'T seem to document most of these problems in any of their programming documentation. If you take a look at /sys/pci/if_xl.c you will find things like: /* * Pretend that PHYs are only available at MII address 24. * This is to guard against problems with certain 3Com ASIC * revisions that incorrectly map the internal transceiver * control registers at all MII addresses. This can cause * the miibus code to attach the same PHY several times over. */ * Note II, The Sequel: _CURRENT_ versions of the 3c905B have a * 256 bit hash table. This means we have to use all 8 bits regardless. * On older cards, the upper 2 bits will be ignored. G */ /* Wait a little while for the chip to get its brains in order. */ DELAY(10); /* * This routine is a kludge to work around possible hardware faults * or manufacturing defects that can cause the media options register * (or reset options register, as it's called for the first generation * 3c90x adapters) to return an incorrect result. I have encountered * Note: my 3c575C cardbus card lies. It returns a value * of 0x1578 for its capabilities word, which is somewhat * nonsensical. Another way to distinguish a 3c90x chip Now, most ethernet controller chips do have differences in revisions - but unless those differences are documented, you have to guess when you run into these things. The presence of differences in board revisions isn't cause for alarm, what is cause for alarm is when you see statements like: "certain 3Com ASIC revisions" (if he knew which revisions he would have written around the problem) "possible hardware faults or manufacturing defects" (you better believe 3com knows all about the conditions that cause this and isn't sharing) and "my 3c575C cardbus card lies" (shorthand for WTF is this damn thing doing?) And these are just the ones that our group found, I would imagine that there's plenty of others that 3com knows about and isn't telling. I've also seen trouble with these under Linux. > What's your favorite NIC on FreeBSD then? > For 10Base T ISA only: WD or SMC 8013 (these aren't produced anymore) For 10/100 PCI: device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes (except for the "LC82C115 PNIC II 10/100BaseTX", the "82c168 PNIC 10/100BaseTX" and the "82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX" I will leave it as a homework assignment for you to find out why this is. hint, read the code) device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) See the following for a list of vendors that use these chips: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/hardware-i386.html#ETHERNET Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Documentation Error?
> Well one thing is that the 3c905 adapter (xl0) is known for > problems under FreeBSD. Ah, that's sad - ALL of our older Dell servers use this NIC (and I only run FreeBSD on them) - this could also explain odd intermittent network problems I'm having on our mail server. What's your favorite NIC on FreeBSD then? Thanks again for all the feedback. later, jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Documentation Error?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason D. > Montgomery > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:56 AM > To: Jerry McAllister > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt > Subject: RE: Documentation Error? > > > Odd. I'm no guru, so it may just be my lack of understanding... > > I had this in my rc.config file to setup an alias on a NIC: > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.20.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.168.20.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > And the alias'd address would NOT load at boot time. Couldn't get it to > work. > > But when I changed it to this, it worked just fine: > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.20.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl0_alias0="alias 192.168.20.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" > Try: ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.168.20.3 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias" and see if that works. Possibly something broken in your rc script that isn't inserting the "alias" keyword into the ifconfig command it's issuing when it sees alias0 in the rc.conf line? > The ifconfig command wouldn't work either until I replaced alias with > inet on the command line. > Correct, the ifconfig command needs the alias keyword to create an alias interface. > Am I just missing something else? > Well one thing is that the 3c905 adapter (xl0) is known for problems under FreeBSD. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Documentation Error?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Hodgins > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:39 AM > To: Jerry McAllister > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt; Jason D. Montgomery > Subject: Re: Documentation Error? > > > man rc.conf and search for "network_interfaces". The reason it still > works is that if you do a simple test with your ifconfig both: > > ifconfig wi0 192.168.0.6 > ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.6 > > work as you would expect. > I think /stand/sysinstall sets the alias interfaces up with the "inet" Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Documentation Error?
Cool, I thought I had tried that as well without success, but I'll take your word and experience over mine any day. :) Thanks for the clarification and actually responding to a random email. later, jason -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 5:54 PM To: Jason D. Montgomery Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Documentation Error? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-v > irtual-hosts.html > > states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > Shouldn't it be this instead? > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > (keyword passed to ifconfig is alias instead of inet) > It shouldn't be either. It should be: ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" With neither 'inet' or 'alias' within the quotes for the alias definition. At least that is the way it works for us on about 75 servers. jerry > > > later, > > jason > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > jason d. montgomery > > ATGi > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Documentation Error?
Odd. I'm no guru, so it may just be my lack of understanding... I had this in my rc.config file to setup an alias on a NIC: ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.20.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_xl0_alias0="inet 192.168.20.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" And the alias'd address would NOT load at boot time. Couldn't get it to work. But when I changed it to this, it worked just fine: ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.20.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_xl0_alias0="alias 192.168.20.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" The ifconfig command wouldn't work either until I replaced alias with inet on the command line. Am I just missing something else? FYI: # uname -a FreeBSD ns2.atgi.com 4.9-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p1 #0: Fri Dec 5 15:13:58 EST 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NS2 i386 later, jason -Original Message- From: Chris Hodgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:39 AM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason D. Montgomery Subject: Re: Documentation Error? Jerry McAllister wrote: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/confi >>>gtuning-v irtual-hosts.html >>> >>>states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: >>> >>>ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" >>>ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" >>> >>>Shouldn't it be this instead? >>> >>>ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" >>>ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" >> >>No. The actual command to make one is: >> >>ifconfig fxp0 inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias >> >>So you do need to pass the "inet" to ifconfig. The _alias0 makes >>the script pass the trailing "alias" > > > H, So what is happening when no 'inet' is in the string? > It seems to work fine.Is something still not right and just > waiting to explode?We have lots of servers configured that way. > > jerry > > >>Ted >> > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > man rc.conf and search for "network_interfaces". The reason it still works is that if you do a simple test with your ifconfig both: ifconfig wi0 192.168.0.6 ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.6 work as you would expect. HTH Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Documentation Error?
Jerry McAllister wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/confi gtuning-v irtual-hosts.html states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" Shouldn't it be this instead? ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" No. The actual command to make one is: ifconfig fxp0 inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias So you do need to pass the "inet" to ifconfig. The _alias0 makes the script pass the trailing "alias" H, So what is happening when no 'inet' is in the string? It seems to work fine.Is something still not right and just waiting to explode?We have lots of servers configured that way. jerry Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" man rc.conf and search for "network_interfaces". The reason it still works is that if you do a simple test with your ifconfig both: ifconfig wi0 192.168.0.6 ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.6 work as you would expect. HTH Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Documentation Error?
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/confi > > gtuning-v irtual-hosts.html > > > > states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: > > > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > > Shouldn't it be this instead? > > > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > No. The actual command to make one is: > > ifconfig fxp0 inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias > > So you do need to pass the "inet" to ifconfig. The _alias0 makes > the script pass the trailing "alias" H, So what is happening when no 'inet' is in the string? It seems to work fine.Is something still not right and just waiting to explode?We have lots of servers configured that way. jerry > > Ted > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Documentation Error?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/confi > gtuning-v irtual-hosts.html > > > > states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > Shouldn't it be this instead? > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > No. The actual command to make one is: ifconfig fxp0 inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias So you do need to pass the "inet" to ifconfig. The _alias0 makes the script pass the trailing "alias" Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Documentation Error?
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-v > irtual-hosts.html > > states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > Shouldn't it be this instead? > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > (keyword passed to ifconfig is alias instead of inet) > It shouldn't be either. It should be: ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" With neither 'inet' or 'alias' within the quotes for the alias definition. At least that is the way it works for us on about 75 servers. jerry > > > later, > > jason > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > jason d. montgomery > > ATGi > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Documentation Error?
I don't know what the difference is between passing inet and alias, but all my configs have inet, and it works fine. On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:07:26 -0500, Jason D. Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-v > irtual-hosts.html > > states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > Shouldn't it be this instead? > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > (keyword passed to ifconfig is alias instead of inet) > > later, > > jason > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > jason d. montgomery > > ATGi > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Documentation Error?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-v irtual-hosts.html states that adding a virtual address is done in rc.conf like this: ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" Shouldn't it be this instead? ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="alias 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" (keyword passed to ifconfig is alias instead of inet) later, jason -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jason d. montgomery ATGi -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
