Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP - PROBLEM SOLVED

2003-08-01 Thread James A. Coulter

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From: "Jud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP - PROBLEM


> On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:09:30 -0700 (PDT), "John DeStefano"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > "James A. Coulter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John DeStefano"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP
> [snip]
> > GAG worked great on my Dell Inspirion 2650 FreeBSD - XP/setup, but when
I
> > installed it on an old Gateway with Win98 - FreeBSD, it did something
> > funky.
> >
> > I get the GAG boot screen and regardless of whether I choose Win98 or
> > FreeBSD the system states it is starting Windows 98 and then, after
> > attempting to access the floppy drive, asks "Type the name of the
Command
> > Interpreter (e.g., C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM)" and finishes with the A>
> > prompt.
> >
> > Entering C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM is not recoginized by the system (it
> > repeats
> > the request for the command interpreter) and inserting a floppy with
> > COMMAND.COM results in the system freezing.
> >
> > I tried booting from floppy, worked fine, but system will not recoginize
> > the
> > c: drive.
> >
> > Uninstalling GAG only removes the GAG start-up screen, system still asks
> > for
> > the command interpreter.
> >
> > Read the GAG instructions and FAQ - no luck.
> >
> > Anyone had a problem like this? Any suggestions on how to restore my
hard
> > drive without losing any data?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > I'm no guru, but this could be as simple as re-installing GAG, removing
> > all file systems from the menu, and starting from scratch to re-add your
> > OS selections (which will take all of a minute's time).  This worked for
> > me once when I had a problem booting; something had changed on the disk
> > and GAG just needed to adjust to the change.  Give it a try.
> >
> > Failing that... I don't know whether 98 has a 'repair install' option
> > like XP does, but if so, that might be a solution.  Also might work to
> > let BSD write its boot menu to the MBR.  Maybe someone else can chime in
> > with more info.
> >
> > ~John
>
> When you get to the A: prompt, type fdisk /mbr.  If it gives you an
> error, start up the next time with a Windows restore floppy and try it
> again.  That will restore your Win98 bootloader.  Then you can try
> reinstalling GAG.  If it doesn't work, you can try FreeBSD's bootloader,
> Grub (/usr/ports/sysutils/grub), or any of several other options.
>
> Since this isn't a GAG helpline  ;-), future correspondence should
> probably be sent off-list.
>
> Jud

The Windows restore floppy worked.  Problem was caused by the hard drive
restore program (GoBack).  Once I disabled it and restored the mbr
everything worked fine.

Thanks for your help and sorry about going off-topic.  I got the GAG idea
from the -questions list and figured it might be the place to find someone
who had had the problem before.

Jim

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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP - PROBLEM

2003-08-01 Thread Jud
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:09:30 -0700 (PDT), "John DeStefano"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> "James A. Coulter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John DeStefano" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP
[snip]
> GAG worked great on my Dell Inspirion 2650 FreeBSD - XP/setup, but when I
> installed it on an old Gateway with Win98 - FreeBSD, it did something
> funky.
> 
> I get the GAG boot screen and regardless of whether I choose Win98 or
> FreeBSD the system states it is starting Windows 98 and then, after
> attempting to access the floppy drive, asks "Type the name of the Command
> Interpreter (e.g., C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM)" and finishes with the A>
> prompt.
> 
> Entering C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM is not recoginized by the system (it
> repeats
> the request for the command interpreter) and inserting a floppy with
> COMMAND.COM results in the system freezing.
> 
> I tried booting from floppy, worked fine, but system will not recoginize
> the
> c: drive.
> 
> Uninstalling GAG only removes the GAG start-up screen, system still asks
> for
> the command interpreter.
> 
> Read the GAG instructions and FAQ - no luck.
> 
> Anyone had a problem like this? Any suggestions on how to restore my hard
> drive without losing any data?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> I'm no guru, but this could be as simple as re-installing GAG, removing
> all file systems from the menu, and starting from scratch to re-add your
> OS selections (which will take all of a minute's time).  This worked for
> me once when I had a problem booting; something had changed on the disk
> and GAG just needed to adjust to the change.  Give it a try.
> 
> Failing that... I don't know whether 98 has a 'repair install' option
> like XP does, but if so, that might be a solution.  Also might work to
> let BSD write its boot menu to the MBR.  Maybe someone else can chime in
> with more info.
> 
> ~John

When you get to the A: prompt, type fdisk /mbr.  If it gives you an
error, start up the next time with a Windows restore floppy and try it
again.  That will restore your Win98 bootloader.  Then you can try
reinstalling GAG.  If it doesn't work, you can try FreeBSD's bootloader,
Grub (/usr/ports/sysutils/grub), or any of several other options.

Since this isn't a GAG helpline  ;-), future correspondence should
probably be sent off-list.

Jud
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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP - PROBLEM

2003-08-01 Thread John DeStefano
"James A. Coulter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "John DeStefano" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP


> >"Jud" wrote:
> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:55:25 -0400 (EDT), "Jerry McAllister"
> > said:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I have a computer with Windows XP installed on it.
> >> > I want to dual boot it with FreeBSD.
> >> > My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
> >> > Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is
> >this
> >> > true?
> >>
> >> I believe both statements are true.
> >> Anyway, you can boot XP with FreeBSD's MBR and that's the important
> >one.
> >>
> >> jerry
> >
> >I see most of the usual suspects have weighed in - may as well complete
> >the list. :-)
> >
> >Jerry's right and so's Adam. I happen to be using GAG right now,
> >because
> >it's pretty automagic and I have a slightly complicated setup.
> >
> >I'd recommend that even if you decide to use the FreeBSD bootloader or
> >GAG that you also have a look at the online FAQ and Google this list.
> >These resources as well as the man pages and the online Handbook will
> >stand you in good stead as you continue with FreeBSD.
> >
> >Jud
>
> And yet another vote for GAG, this time from a newbie! ;)
> I have a FreeBSD/Windows 98/Windows XP system, and although I
> once had it booting from a FBSD loader, GAG was so easy to install and
> configure that I've switched over. It works very well, and it's very easy
to
> use. Just copy the program to a floppy and boot with it. Use the setup
> menu to add your OS selections, add a descriptive name for each (and
> even a different icon to distinguish them!), install your choices to the
> hard drive from the menu, and off you go.
> ~John
>

GAG worked great on my Dell Inspirion 2650 FreeBSD - XP/setup, but when I
installed it on an old Gateway with Win98 - FreeBSD, it did something funky.

I get the GAG boot screen and regardless of whether I choose Win98 or
FreeBSD the system states it is starting Windows 98 and then, after
attempting to access the floppy drive, asks "Type the name of the Command
Interpreter (e.g., C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM)" and finishes with the A> prompt.

Entering C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM is not recoginized by the system (it repeats
the request for the command interpreter) and inserting a floppy with
COMMAND.COM results in the system freezing.

I tried booting from floppy, worked fine, but system will not recoginize the
c: drive.

Uninstalling GAG only removes the GAG start-up screen, system still asks for
the command interpreter.

Read the GAG instructions and FAQ - no luck.

Anyone had a problem like this? Any suggestions on how to restore my hard
drive without losing any data?

Thanks,

Jim


I'm no guru, but this could be as simple as re-installing GAG, removing all file 
systems from the menu, and starting from scratch to re-add your OS selections (which 
will take all of a minute's time).  This worked for me once when I had a problem 
booting; something had changed on the disk and GAG just needed to adjust to the 
change.  Give it a try.

Failing that... I don't know whether 98 has a 'repair install' option like XP does, 
but if so, that might be a solution.  Also might work to let BSD write its boot menu 
to the MBR.  Maybe someone else can chime in with more info.

~John


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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP

2003-07-31 Thread JacobRhoden

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 02:29 am, Jud wrote:
> > > My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
> > > Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is this
> > > true?
> >
> > I believe both statements are true.
> > Anyway, you can boot XP with FreeBSD's MBR and that's the important one.
>
> Jerry's right and so's Adam.  I happen to be using GAG right now, because
> it's pretty automagic and I have a slightly complicated setup.

I installed XP, then FreeBSD on my machine and it all works fine with the 
FreeBSD boot loader. That said maybe I should try GAG, the font is a bit 
ugly, but at least the XP partion on boot time wouldnt appear as '??'.

(:
 

JacobRhoden - http://rhoden.id.au/
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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP

2003-07-31 Thread John DeStefano
>"Jud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:55:25 -0400 (EDT), "Jerry McAllister"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> > 
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > I have a computer with Windows XP installed on it.
>> > I want to dual boot it with FreeBSD.
>> > My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
>> > Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is 
>this
>> > true?
>> 
>> I believe both statements are true.
>> Anyway, you can boot XP with FreeBSD's MBR and that's the important 
>one.
>> 
>> jerry
>
>I see most of the usual suspects have weighed in - may as well complete
>the list.  :-)
>
>Jerry's right and so's Adam.  I happen to be using GAG right now, 
>because
>it's pretty automagic and I have a slightly complicated setup.
>
>I'd recommend that even if you decide to use the FreeBSD bootloader or
>GAG that you also have a look at the online FAQ and Google this list. 
>These resources as well as the man pages and the online Handbook will
>stand you in good stead as you continue with FreeBSD.
>
>Jud

And yet another vote for GAG, this time from a newbie! ;)
I have a FreeBSD/Windows 98/Windows XP system, and although I 
once had it booting from a FBSD loader, GAG was so easy to install and 
configure that I've switched over.  It works very well, and it's very easy to 
use.  Just copy the program to a floppy and boot with it.  Use the setup 
menu to add your OS selections, add a descriptive name for each (and 
even a different icon to distinguish them!), install your choices to the 
hard drive from the menu, and off you go.
~John


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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP

2003-07-31 Thread Jud
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:55:25 -0400 (EDT), "Jerry McAllister"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have a computer with Windows XP installed on it.
> > I want to dual boot it with FreeBSD.
> > My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
> > Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is this
> > true?
> 
> I believe both statements are true.
> Anyway, you can boot XP with FreeBSD's MBR and that's the important one.
> 
> jerry

I see most of the usual suspects have weighed in - may as well complete
the list.  :-)

Jerry's right and so's Adam.  I happen to be using GAG right now, because
it's pretty automagic and I have a slightly complicated setup.

I'd recommend that even if you decide to use the FreeBSD bootloader or
GAG that you also have a look at the online FAQ and Google this list. 
These resources as well as the man pages and the online Handbook will
stand you in good stead as you continue with FreeBSD.

Jud
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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP

2003-07-30 Thread Adam
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 12:41, Aviv wrote:
> I have a computer with Windows XP installed on it.
> I want to dual boot it with FreeBSD.
> My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
> Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is this
> true?

Save yourself hassle and just use GAG. It's easy and it works.

http://gag.sourceforge.net/

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Re: Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP

2003-07-30 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a computer with Windows XP installed on it.
> I want to dual boot it with FreeBSD.
> My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
> Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is this
> true?

I believe both statements are true.
Anyway, you can boot XP with FreeBSD's MBR and that's the important one.

jerry

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Dual booting FreeBSD and Windows XP

2003-07-30 Thread Aviv
Hello,

I have a computer with Windows XP installed on it.
I want to dual boot it with FreeBSD.
My question is: does FreeBSD's boot loader support loading XP?
Because I've heard XP doesn't like it's MBR being overwritten. Is this
true?




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