Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 12:34 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > > Have you tried LyX? I'm aware of it, and will indeed try it one of these days, but that is not the issue. I'm fine with troff -- I've used it for so many years that I can get it to jump through hoops. Time has passed it by, though, so moving to TeX (or LaTeX or Lyx) one of these days is probably a good idea. The issue is the skill of the people with whom I collaborate, and their inclination to change. They won't, at least not for me alone. This is not a battle worth fighting. You are of course welcomed to disagree for your own case. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 20:13 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all > i'm not top-flight scientist but i was able to learn latex... That may be true, but trust me, the faculty with whom I work just would not do it. No way, no how, never. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all i'm not top-flight scientist but i was able to learn latex... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On 10/4/07, Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > > On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good > > > enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a > VM > > > and am done with it. > > > > Have you tried LyX? > > I think "this purpose", in this case, means "collaborating with people > using MS Word". That being the case, LyX is sort of the opposite of what > he needs, even if it handles equation work excellently for print -- > because, of course, it *doesn't* handle MS Word DOC format at all. > > At least, it didn't the last time I checked. I imagine the LyX > maintainers haven't suddenly jumped on the "interoperate with MS Office" > bandwagon lately. > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] > Brian K. Reid: "In computer science, we stand on each other's feet." > You are so right about that. I saw "equations" in the subject line and jumped a little to quickly. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good > > enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM > > and am done with it. > > Have you tried LyX? I think "this purpose", in this case, means "collaborating with people using MS Word". That being the case, LyX is sort of the opposite of what he needs, even if it handles equation work excellently for print -- because, of course, it *doesn't* handle MS Word DOC format at all. At least, it didn't the last time I checked. I imagine the LyX maintainers haven't suddenly jumped on the "interoperate with MS Office" bandwagon lately. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Brian K. Reid: "In computer science, we stand on each other's feet." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe > > you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. > > Sorry I can't really be of much help with OO.o equations. > > What I do personally is a kludge, but it works well enough. For > documents that I create for read-only use, I use groff and friends. For > those that require collaboration, I use Wordperfect to create the > equations (it has an equation mode like troff's eqn), export them into > Word format, and then read them into Word. The equation mode in Word is > crippled, and you need to purchase MathType (I think that is the name) > to make it usable. > > The same goes for references, BTW: you really need to purchase an add-on > to make Word usable. In troff I just use refer together with Refbase. > > I've just not had much luck with OO.o's equation mode. If often crashes > Word, and since all the people I collaborate with use Word, well, I use > Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all > top-flight scientists and engineers at major US research Universities, > their computer literacy is surprisingly low. > > I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good > enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM > and am done with it. Have you tried LyX? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
> Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe > you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. Sorry I can't really be of much help with OO.o equations. What I do personally is a kludge, but it works well enough. For documents that I create for read-only use, I use groff and friends. For those that require collaboration, I use Wordperfect to create the equations (it has an equation mode like troff's eqn), export them into Word format, and then read them into Word. The equation mode in Word is crippled, and you need to purchase MathType (I think that is the name) to make it usable. The same goes for references, BTW: you really need to purchase an add-on to make Word usable. In troff I just use refer together with Refbase. I've just not had much luck with OO.o's equation mode. If often crashes Word, and since all the people I collaborate with use Word, well, I use Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all top-flight scientists and engineers at major US research Universities, their computer literacy is surprisingly low. I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM and am done with it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
