Re: FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-21 Thread Murray Stokely
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 05:41:01AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> As you noted, it's based on 4.6, so the contents are a year old.  If
> you don't mind getting year-old versions of ports, then go for it.

The new PowerPak is based on 5.1 and will be shipping in 2 weeks.  It
includes 10 CDROMs of ports, packages, and distfiles.

 www.freebsdmall.com

 - Murray
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Re: FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:09:07PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> I posted a message a few days ago regarding my frustrations to obtain an
> up-to-date PowerPak for FreeBSD 5.1. Because I don't have broadband, I
> really would like to have the entire ports collection on CD-R.
> Unfortunately, the PowerPak sold by FreeBSDmall is version 4.6, a full
> year (and four versions) out of date.
> 
> Since I posted that message, one kind member of this list contacted me
> and offered to attempt to create a homemade PowerPak by downloading the
> distfiles and burning them to CD-R.
> 
> So, (forgive the pun) the burning question:
> 
> Exactly what directory from Freebsd servers should one download to
> create a PowerPak?

"A PowerPak" doesn't really mean anything.  The question is what do
you want.
 
> Perhaps the distfile directory? The gentlemen who
> volunteered to do this isn't exactly sure, and I'm pretty clueless. I
> assume there are no ready-made ISO files for producing a PowerPak, so
> what would be the best procedure?

The distfiles directory contains most of the distfiles that have been
associated to every version of the ports collection going back several
years.  It's unlikely you want all that.  Unfortunately there's no
easy way to only obtain only the distfiles for the current ports
collection (unless your volunteer wants to fetch them all himself,
about 12-15GB worth).  Instead you might like to just grab the full
package set, which runs to about 7.2GB on i386 for the latest 4.x set.

Kris




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FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-20 Thread Robert Storey
I posted a message a few days ago regarding my frustrations to obtain an
up-to-date PowerPak for FreeBSD 5.1. Because I don't have broadband, I
really would like to have the entire ports collection on CD-R.
Unfortunately, the PowerPak sold by FreeBSDmall is version 4.6, a full
year (and four versions) out of date.

Since I posted that message, one kind member of this list contacted me
and offered to attempt to create a homemade PowerPak by downloading the
distfiles and burning them to CD-R.

So, (forgive the pun) the burning question:

Exactly what directory from Freebsd servers should one download to
create a PowerPak? Perhaps the distfile directory? The gentlemen who
volunteered to do this isn't exactly sure, and I'm pretty clueless. I
assume there are no ready-made ISO files for producing a PowerPak, so
what would be the best procedure?

regards,
Robert

> I recently ordered and received the 4-CD set of FBSD 5.1.
> 
> I had presumed that this would give me a pretty complete
> desktop setup.  Alas, I was wrong. A lot of very commmon
> apps are missing, such as Xemacs and Mplayer. It's
> disappointing. I only have a dialup modem. I don't have
> broadband and have no hope of getting it where I live, so I
> was counting on the 4-CD set to fill in the gaps.
> 
> I noticed on the FreeBSDmall web site that they sell a
> PowerPak with 10 CDs. This is supposed to be the entire
> ports collection. Sounds like just what I need - except it's
> based on FBSD 4.6 which is one year old.
> 
> So my question - I am wondering if the distfiles in this
> PowerPak are going to be of much use? Shelling out $40 isn't
> such a great hardship if the disfiles work as advertised,
> but I'm going to be more than a little pissed if it
> generates nothing but error messages. Does anybody know if
> the PowerPak will work with 5.1? Has anyone actually tried
> it?
> 
> TIA,
> Robert
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Re: FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-18 Thread W. J. Williams
Rob,

I can download the Ports collection and burn to DVD or CD-R.  Would you be
willing to pay for this?

Will

--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:37:48PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> > I recently ordered and received the 4-CD set of FBSD 5.1.
> > 
> > I had presumed that this would give me a pretty complete desktop
> setup.
> > Alas, I was wrong. A lot of very commmon apps are missing, such as
> > Xemacs and Mplayer. It's disappointing. I only have a dialup modem. I
> > don't have broadband and have no hope of getting it where I live, so I
> > was counting on the 4-CD set to fill in the gaps.
> 
> xemacs21 is scheduled for disc1 if possible, but I suppose it was
> bumped because of lack of space.  There are some xemacs and mplayer
> support packages on disc 3 and 4, but xemacs and mplayer themselves
> are missing.  It looks like the CD layout could do with some tweaking.
> 
> > I noticed on the FreeBSDmall web site that they sell a PowerPak with
> 10
> > CDs. This is supposed to be the entire ports collection. Sounds like
> > just what I need - except it's based on FBSD 4.6 which is one year
> old.
> > 
> > So my question - I am wondering if the distfiles in this PowerPak are
> > going to be of much use? Shelling out $40 isn't such a great hardship
> if
> > the disfiles work as advertised, but I'm going to be more than a
> little
> > pissed if it generates nothing but error messages. Does anybody know
> if
> > the PowerPak will work with 5.1? Has anyone actually tried it?
> 
> As you noted, it's based on 4.6, so the contents are a year old.  If
> you don't mind getting year-old versions of ports, then go for it.
> 
> Kris

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Re: FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 06:11:03AM -0400, Jud wrote:

> >As you noted, it's based on 4.6, so the contents are a year old.  If
> >you don't mind getting year-old versions of ports, then go for it.
> >
> >Kris
> 
> Is there a possibility that some of the older ports may not build or run on 
> top of 5.x?

Yes, a lot of them won't.

Kris


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Re: FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-18 Thread Jud
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:41:01 -0700, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:37:48PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
I recently ordered and received the 4-CD set of FBSD 5.1.

I had presumed that this would give me a pretty complete desktop setup.
Alas, I was wrong. A lot of very commmon apps are missing, such as
Xemacs and Mplayer. It's disappointing. I only have a dialup modem. I
don't have broadband and have no hope of getting it where I live, so I
was counting on the 4-CD set to fill in the gaps.
[snip]

Another possibility is to do what I do with my 28.8K dialup - let big stuff 
run overnight.  I just built XFree86 last night, in fact.  The package for 
OpenOffice was an overnight download as well.  I don't know as I would want 
to build the entire KDE or GNOME environments like this, but I've always 
preferred lighter weight applications (Blackbox, Windowmaker, XFCE4) 
anyway.  Java is a bit of a bugger, since you can't just let it run - have 
to answer questions along the way.  On the other hand, the same licensing 
requirements that necessitate this prevent it from being distributed on a 
FreeBSD CD, at least as I understand it.

As you noted, it's based on 4.6, so the contents are a year old.  If
you don't mind getting year-old versions of ports, then go for it.
Kris
Is there a possibility that some of the older ports may not build or run on 
top of 5.x?

Jud



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Re: FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:37:48PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> I recently ordered and received the 4-CD set of FBSD 5.1.
> 
> I had presumed that this would give me a pretty complete desktop setup.
> Alas, I was wrong. A lot of very commmon apps are missing, such as
> Xemacs and Mplayer. It's disappointing. I only have a dialup modem. I
> don't have broadband and have no hope of getting it where I live, so I
> was counting on the 4-CD set to fill in the gaps.

xemacs21 is scheduled for disc1 if possible, but I suppose it was
bumped because of lack of space.  There are some xemacs and mplayer
support packages on disc 3 and 4, but xemacs and mplayer themselves
are missing.  It looks like the CD layout could do with some tweaking.

> I noticed on the FreeBSDmall web site that they sell a PowerPak with 10
> CDs. This is supposed to be the entire ports collection. Sounds like
> just what I need - except it's based on FBSD 4.6 which is one year old.
> 
> So my question - I am wondering if the distfiles in this PowerPak are
> going to be of much use? Shelling out $40 isn't such a great hardship if
> the disfiles work as advertised, but I'm going to be more than a little
> pissed if it generates nothing but error messages. Does anybody know if
> the PowerPak will work with 5.1? Has anyone actually tried it?

As you noted, it's based on 4.6, so the contents are a year old.  If
you don't mind getting year-old versions of ports, then go for it.

Kris

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FBSD PowerPak

2003-07-16 Thread Robert Storey
I recently ordered and received the 4-CD set of FBSD 5.1.

I had presumed that this would give me a pretty complete desktop setup.
Alas, I was wrong. A lot of very commmon apps are missing, such as
Xemacs and Mplayer. It's disappointing. I only have a dialup modem. I
don't have broadband and have no hope of getting it where I live, so I
was counting on the 4-CD set to fill in the gaps.

I noticed on the FreeBSDmall web site that they sell a PowerPak with 10
CDs. This is supposed to be the entire ports collection. Sounds like
just what I need - except it's based on FBSD 4.6 which is one year old.

So my question - I am wondering if the distfiles in this PowerPak are
going to be of much use? Shelling out $40 isn't such a great hardship if
the disfiles work as advertised, but I'm going to be more than a little
pissed if it generates nothing but error messages. Does anybody know if
the PowerPak will work with 5.1? Has anyone actually tried it?

TIA,
Robert
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