Re: firefox+flash = i'cant got to my shell

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Shute
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 10:12:04PM -0800, Viktor Penkov wrote:

 Hello.I want to install flash and using it with firefox.I used this
 guide -
 http://freebsdgirl.com/2005/06/freebsd_firefox_flash.html

That guide is almost 3 yrs old. Totally useless.

 When i rebooted my system i got this message  /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:
 shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found,  required by
 -sh /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so
 not found, required by sh Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN
 for /bin/sh: I can't get into my shell.  I tryed to use /rescue.
 When it asked me again for the pathname i typed this /rescue/sh.I
 wanted to edit the libmap.conf with vi but when i typed vi i got
 this vi: no terminal database found  

 How to fix this? Thnx

When you get the prompt to hit return for /bin/sh, do so. You will be
given a prompt, then you can mount your partitions, fire up vi  undo
everything you did to install flash. After that reboot into the
normal, multi-user mode.

To install flash, search the archive of this list. In the last few
months the installation of flash has come up more than once. It's
fairly straightforward: install linux-flashplugin  then
nspluginwrapper  run it. It works with native firefox.

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Re: firefox+flash = i'cant got to my shell

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Shute
Hi Viktor,

Looking at that page, you don't need to mount your partitions. You
should be able to edit /etc/libmap.conf directly.

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firefox+flash = i'cant got to my shell

2007-11-18 Thread Viktor Penkov
Hello.I want to install flash and using it with firefox.I used this
guide - http://freebsdgirl.com/2005/06/freebsd_firefox_flash.html.When
i rebooted my system i got this message
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not
found,  required by -sh
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not
found, required by sh Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for
/bin/sh:
I can't get into my shell.
I tryed to use /rescue.
When it asked me again for the pathname i typed this /rescue/sh.I
wanted to edit the libmap.conf with vi but when i typed vi i got this
vi: no terminal database found


How to fix this? Thnx
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linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread kalin mintchev
hi all

i wanted to put linux-firefox because i read somewhere it can use the
flash plugin. so i got the the linux-firefox on. the thing downloaded and
installed the plugin through the browser plugin interface. now every time
i go to youtube (or any other flash site) the browser crashes
immediately...

what's the trick?

thanks...

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Re: linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 04:25:18AM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:
 hi all
 
 i wanted to put linux-firefox because i read somewhere it can use the
 flash plugin. so i got the the linux-firefox on. the thing downloaded and
 installed the plugin through the browser plugin interface. now every time
 i go to youtube (or any other flash site) the browser crashes
 immediately...
 
 what's the trick?

The trick is flash9 is still very unstable. Try removing it and
installing www/linux-flashplugin7 from ports.
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RE: linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Well, I have tried both plugins 7 and 9, they both seem to be giving me 
difficulties, I try installing from ports/packages, but still the same issues. 
Installation for version 7 seems a pain hence I have to crease symbolic links 
to browser_plugins in order for firefox to pick them up. I am not sure if the 
development team is working in a functional port for this for the upcoming 
release 7.0, I switch my desktop completely to FreeBSD 6.2-Release with updated 
xorg 7.2, still doing some of the administrative work in the Win boxes using 
rdesktop, but this OS seems pretty stable and when I am ready I am thinking of 
migrating all my Win Servers to FBSD, BSD rocks. The next thing that needs some 
work is Quicktime and Flash, what would be a desktop without those plugins? Any 
ideas are welcome on making these two things to work.

BTW, you guys are doing a wonderful job in the mailing list. Lisandro Grullon



 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:38:25 +0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: linux-firefox+flash=crash
 
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 04:25:18AM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:
  hi all
  
  i wanted to put linux-firefox because i read somewhere it can use the
  flash plugin. so i got the the linux-firefox on. the thing downloaded and
  installed the plugin through the browser plugin interface. now every time
  i go to youtube (or any other flash site) the browser crashes
  immediately...
  
  what's the trick?
 
 The trick is flash9 is still very unstable. Try removing it and
 installing www/linux-flashplugin7 from ports.
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Re: linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:36:00 Lisandro Grullon wrote:
 Well, I have tried both plugins 7 and 9, they both seem to be giving me
 difficulties, I try installing from ports/packages, but still the same
 issues. 

So far, swfdec (graphics/swfdec and the plugin www/swfdec-plugin) is the only 
one that works reliably and it has a nice feature (I consider it a feature) 
that it gives you a pause screen when a flash is loaded, so that you don't 
get the flashy ads flickering your screen.

Movies from youtube work, but they have a huge lag and it's more like a 
slideshow then a movie. However, it's more promising then any of the 
linux-flashplugin* stuff I've seen past few years and it looks like it's 
actively developed from scratch rather then trying to make Macromedia linux 
spaghetti work.

I had one crash, when a page loaded 5 different movies and during loading I 
clicked a slider control in the non-flash part of the page.
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RE: linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Thank you Mel,
I guess is tie to start looking into a different direction hence Macromedia do 
not want to open the code for us, I will give swfdec a try and see if the lag 
time is good enough for me to play animate pages. Thanks again for your input.



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 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:27:02 +0200
 Subject: Re: linux-firefox+flash=crash
 
 On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:36:00 Lisandro Grullon wrote:
  Well, I have tried both plugins 7 and 9, they both seem to be giving me
  difficulties, I try installing from ports/packages, but still the same
  issues. 
 
 So far, swfdec (graphics/swfdec and the plugin www/swfdec-plugin) is the only 
 one that works reliably and it has a nice feature (I consider it a feature) 
 that it gives you a pause screen when a flash is loaded, so that you don't 
 get the flashy ads flickering your screen.
 
 Movies from youtube work, but they have a huge lag and it's more like a 
 slideshow then a movie. However, it's more promising then any of the 
 linux-flashplugin* stuff I've seen past few years and it looks like it's 
 actively developed from scratch rather then trying to make Macromedia linux 
 spaghetti work.
 
 I had one crash, when a page loaded 5 different movies and during loading I 
 clicked a slider control in the non-flash part of the page.
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Re: linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:41:08AM -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
 Thank you Mel,
 I guess is tie to start looking into a different direction
 hence Macromedia do not want to open the code for us, I will
 give swfdec a try and see if the lag time is good enough for me
 to play animate pages. Thanks again for your input.

I haven't seen a single bit of flash in months on any of my
desktops. Would youtube make me more productive? Possibly, but I
have to doubt it...
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Re: linux-firefox+flash=crash

2007-09-18 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:32:51 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:

 I haven't seen a single bit of flash in months on any of my
 desktops. Would youtube make me more productive? Possibly, but I
 have to doubt it...

I'm sure this is message is classified as productive.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-19 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:38:48 -0400
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for User
 Mode Emulation.   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
 I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

sure, works fine under freebsd. I just did a pkg_info -R qemu* and it doesn't
*seem* to depend on anything linux... the Makefile doesnt make any reference to
it either.

I've only used it for hosting a WinXP-Pro guest - it's not as fast as
VMWare,but i'm switching to linux just for that reason. And i wont be buying
vmware workstation linux licenses (needed for VmWare Workstaion 3.x on FreeBSD
host) - my Wkstation-Windows licenses are just fine (but not valid for linux,
according to vmware's support).

B

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-19 Thread Paul Chvostek
 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for User
  Mode Emulation.   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
  I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

It's a proper virtual machine, not like jail(8).  Check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines for a list
of alternatives.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 04:01:01PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:

 I've only used it for hosting a WinXP-Pro guest - it's not as fast as
 VMWare,but i'm switching to linux just for that reason. And i wont be buying
 vmware workstation linux licenses (needed for VmWare Workstaion 3.x on FreeBSD
 host) - my Wkstation-Windows licenses are just fine (but not valid for linux,
 according to vmware's support).

QEMU can read and write vmdk files, so you may have an easy migration
path.  But if your issue is speed, have you looked at the kqemu-kmod
port?  It's the bit that allows guest code to run directly on the host
cpu.  YMMV, but it seems to allow QEMU to run Windows guests at about
the same speed as VMWare.  http://qemu.org/qemu-accel.html for details.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-19 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:45:03 -0400
Paul Chvostek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 QEMU can read and write vmdk files, so you may have an easy migration
 path. 
Well, i tried loading a pre-existing vmdk from Windows Vmware Wkstation 4.5 and
it just didnt work (it'd stall). I have to admit I couldn't spend much more
time on it so I moved on.

 But if your issue is speed, have you looked at the kqemu-kmod
 port?  It's the bit that allows guest code to run directly on the host
 cpu.  YMMV, but it seems to allow QEMU to run Windows guests at about
 the same speed as VMWare.  http://qemu.org/qemu-accel.html for details.

Definitely using kqemu-kmod. I was developing with eclipse under win32 and it
was rather painful... interestingly enough, the clock
inside the vm was ticking like crazy (4 or so times as fast as normal ) - i
ended up syncwing via ntp every 90 seconds :D. It could well be a fault in my
qemu config (pretty vanilla one )  but for what I need(ed) it, it does its
job.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-19 Thread John Nielsen
On Saturday 16 September 2006 12:38, Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
 At Sat, 16 Sep 2006 it looks like Viswas Nair composed:
  I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm.
  Just go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the
  plugin and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin
  in the adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it
  to some location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so
  file to /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again
  and enjoy the world of flash
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 Hello Family,

 I'm running 6.1, installed linux-opera from ports in order to test
 the above, and the ports install seemed to go fine but I got this
 error when trying to start Opera, anyone seen this before?

 ##

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera

 opera: Preference initialization failure. File not found or could
 not be opened (-7)

 ##

Why are you trying to run it that way?  What happens if you just 
type linux-opera from an xterm? (/usr/local/bin/linux-opera on my machine).

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:

 On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 
 
 Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash does work under
 wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out of trouble
 the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i just give up
 altogether on the site.

Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for User
Mode Emulation.   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 18 Sep Jerry McAllister wrote:
 Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for User
 Mode Emulation.   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if I
 am hosting it under FreeBSD?
 
 This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

Qemu is great. I have a few systems in a qemu directory which I simply
call from a command windows with the right options.
At the moment I run XP/pro, Win98se, FreeDOS and a 'real' MS-DOS system
under Qemu *on_FreeBSD*. They all run great. Sound, networking, all.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)


On 18 September 2006, at 09:38, Jerry McAllister wrote:


On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash.


Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash  
does work under
wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out  
of trouble
the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i  
just give up

altogether on the site.


Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for User
Mode Emulation.   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
I am hosting it under FreeBSD?


If it needs linux, use linux compatibility.



This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

jerry



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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Viswas Nair

I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm. Just
go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the plugin
and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin in the
adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it to some
location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so file to
/usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again and enjoy
the world of flash
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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread ajm
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 08:33:11PM +0530, Viswas Nair wrote:
 I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm. Just
 go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the plugin
 and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin in the
 adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it to some
 location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so file to
 /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again and enjoy
 the world of flash

I also use linux-opera...but there some site that are running flash 8 
that won't work with the most current adobe flash version 7.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday 16 September 2006 11:38, ajm wrote:

 I also use linux-opera...but there some site that are running flash 8
 that won't work with the most current adobe flash version 7.

A somewhat similar problem is starting to crop up with mplayer and the 
latest version of WMV codecs. I seems that a few sites are using the new 
code and mplayer is unable to interpret it correctly. I was just on the 
mplayer forum where it was being discussed along with the URLs of some of 
those sites.

It is my belief though that mplayer will get the necessary changes make to 
remedy this problem faster than a fully functioning and current version of 
flash for FBSD is available.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Bill-Schoolcraft
At Sat, 16 Sep 2006 it looks like Viswas Nair composed:

 I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm. Just
 go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the plugin
 and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin in the
 adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it to some
 location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so file to
 /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again and enjoy
 the world of flash
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Hello Family,

I'm running 6.1, installed linux-opera from ports in order to test
the above, and the ports install seemed to go fine but I got this
error when trying to start Opera, anyone seen this before?

##

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera

opera: Preference initialization failure. File not found or could
not be opened (-7)

##

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread RW
On Saturday 16 September 2006 16:03, Viswas Nair wrote:
 I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm.

For the third time, it has multiple critical vulnerabilities. If you use it 
your computer may work like a charm for someone else. 
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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 06:45:56PM +0100, RW wrote:
 On Saturday 16 September 2006 16:03, Viswas Nair wrote:
  I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm.
 
 For the third time, it has multiple critical vulnerabilities. If you use it 
 your computer may work like a charm for someone else. 

I heard you the first time.  Adobe have released a patched version (7.0.68)
that addresses these vulnerabilities. The Freshmeat notice went out yesterday,
so I'm sure it is just a matter of time before the maintainer revs the FreeBSD
port.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread felix.schalck
Is the language/interpreter used by FLASH copyrighted, so that there 
isn't any possibility for an open source player ?

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Bob M.
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:57 -0700, White Hat wrote:
 FreeBSD 6.1
 
 I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
 FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
 major problems is the inability to get flash to work
 properly to display videos available on Google. I know
 that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
 out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
 persuade them to try FBSD?
 
 I have KDE and Firefox installed obviously. I tried
 loading a few of the flash packages available in the
 ports, but they did not not seem to work.
 
 Thanks!
 
This works for me, make sure you have the src tree under /usr/src.

http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081

There's an english translation somewhere, but if you just follow the
commands you'll be ok.

Bob

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread michael johnson

On 9/14/06, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.

 Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

 I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
 install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.

 --
 -Chuck

Unfortunately a lot of consumer sites are starting to use flash as a
semi-static and predictable way to deliver content to people; it's
incredibly annoying, and becomes very noticeable once you install
stuff that blocks SWF files: http://www.noscript.net/whats :). Thus,
that is one solution to get rid of your ads (adblock+ is another, but
meh), so you can keep Flash functionality and get rid of crappy Flash
animations, while surfing the net.

Also, FYI: a lot of sites have built animations with (Adobe) Flash 9,
so unless you have a Windows or Mac PC nearby you probably won't be
able to load up animations on a Unix PC as the latest version
available is 7.



Go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and
ask adobe for a native version of flash for FreeBSD.


-Garrett

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread RW



--On Thursday, September 14, 2006 14:57:28 -0700 White Hat 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



FreeBSD 6.1

I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
major problems is the inability to get flash to work
properly to display videos available on Google. I know
that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
persuade them to try FBSD?


Adobe have announced that Flash 8 and all previous versions have multiple 
critical vulnerabilities. Presumably Adobe have been sitting on these bugs 
for some time; a month or so after the release of Flash 9 is pretty 
convenient for them.


Since the highest version of the linux plugin is 7, there is currently no 
Adobe version that can be run safely on Linux, BSD or Solaris. I understand 
that Adobe have indicated that there will eventually be a Linux Flash 9, 
and hopefully it will work on FreeBSD.


There are open source versions, but they aren't much good in my experience, 
I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:54:38PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
 
 Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
 
 I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
 install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.

I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos programs
that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic demonstrations.
So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me to have
to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.

jerry

 
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Eric Schuele

On 09/15/06 03:31, felix.schalck wrote:
Is the language/interpreter used by FLASH copyrighted, so that there 
isn't any possibility for an open source player ?


There is Gnash:
  http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:

 Chuck Swiger wrote:
  On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
  Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
  friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
  
  Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
  
  I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
  install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
 
 I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
 provide their videos in a proper way.
 I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
 of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
 Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.

Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.

By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.

jerry

 
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday 15 September 2006 10:34, Jerry McAllister wrote:

 I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos
 programs that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic
 demonstrations. So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me
 to have to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.

I concure; having to use a different PC just to view a web page is a 
negative factor. I have also noticed that several sites, one bing CBSNews. 
is now doing streaming real-time video; however, it is only viewable via MS 
Media Player. It specifically states on the web page that 'realplayer' is 
not fully compatible and not used for many of the feeds.

It would be nice if a fully compatible player were available for FBSD. I 
hate switching between PCs.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
 
 Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
 Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

 I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
 install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
 I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
 provide their videos in a proper way.
 I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
 of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
 Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.
 
 Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.
 
 By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
 it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.

It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox
(even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from
version 8 on.

--jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
michael johnson wrote:
 On 9/14/06, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

  On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
  Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
  friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
 
  Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
 
  I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
  install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
 
  --
  -Chuck

 Unfortunately a lot of consumer sites are starting to use flash as a
 semi-static and predictable way to deliver content to people; it's
 incredibly annoying, and becomes very noticeable once you install
 stuff that blocks SWF files: http://www.noscript.net/whats :). Thus,
 that is one solution to get rid of your ads (adblock+ is another, but
 meh), so you can keep Flash functionality and get rid of crappy Flash
 animations, while surfing the net.

 Also, FYI: a lot of sites have built animations with (Adobe) Flash 9,
 so unless you have a Windows or Mac PC nearby you probably won't be
 able to load up animations on a Unix PC as the latest version
 available is 7.
 
 
 Go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and
 ask adobe for a native version of flash for FreeBSD.

Great! I bet if everybody fills out this form and asks for a FreeBSD
native version they will perhaps pay attention.

--jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 05:52:45PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:

 Jerry McAllister wrote:
  On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
  
  Chuck Swiger wrote:
  On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
  Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
  friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
  Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
 
  I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
  install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
  I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
  provide their videos in a proper way.
  I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
  of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
  Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.
  
  Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.
  
  By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
  it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.
 
 It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
 Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox
 (even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from
 version 8 on.

OK.   I see it.  But since I am running Firefox, it doesn't do much.
Are you proposing to add SVG to Firefox or create a 'plugin' for
Firefox?

jerry

 
 --jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Gerard Seibert wrote:
 On Friday 15 September 2006 10:34, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
 I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos
 programs that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic
 demonstrations. So, it is a feature that is desired by many. �It pains me
 to have to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.
 
 I concure; having to use a different PC just to view a web page is a 
 negative factor. I have also noticed that several sites, one bing CBSNews. 
 is now doing streaming real-time video; however, it is only viewable via MS 
 Media Player. It specifically states on the web page that 'realplayer' is 
 not fully compatible and not used for many of the feeds.
 
 It would be nice if a fully compatible player were available for FBSD. I 
 hate switching between PCs.

MPlayer handles wmv streams just fine.
You may want to check out www/mplayer-plugin, it works perfectly for
mozilla.

--jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Robert Huff

Jerry McAllister writes:

  Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it
  annoys me.

I am running into an increasing number of web sites - including
those of mega-corporations - where the home page is 100% Flash,
leaving no way to get inside if you don't do .swf.
Short of a native Flash Player (not holding my breath), the
correct long-term solution is for someone with the right skill-set
(regrettably not me) to fix www/linuxpluginwrapper.  This will not
only make using Linux Flash players feasible, but will bring joy to
the hearts of the many who want to use other Linux plugins.


Robert Huff




 

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday 15 September 2006 12:01, Jona Joachim wrote:

[...]

 MPlayer handles wmv streams just fine.
 You may want to check out www/mplayer-plugin, it works perfectly for
 mozilla.

OK, I all ready have that installed. How am I suppose to configure it so 
that when I click on a link that is suppose to require MS Media Player it 
intercepts it and displays the streaming video?


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread George Allan
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:54:38PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 
  On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
  Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
  friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
  
  Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
  
  I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
  install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
 
 I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos programs
 that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic demonstrations.
 So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me to have
 to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.

You can visit www.linuxcbt.com (cue the Linux jokes) for an illustrative 
example.  All the videos are in swf format, most likely generated using 
vnc2swf (available in ports, FWIW) or something similar.  As a side 
note, mplayer doesn't support the swf format either.

I once subscribed to the notion that Flash was wholly unecessary and the 
domain of ad companies, all the while knowing that there are amazingly 
creative sites (targeted at creative types or folks with creative 
budgets) done entirely in Flash that most people, myself included, 
couldn't fault.  It wasn't too long before I ended up installing the 
requisite browser plugin.

Flash is now more popular than ever.  And with Adobe's recent purchase 
of Macromedia, it would be naive to believe that Flash is going to fade 
away, or be relegated to a corner somewhere.  Unwelcome ads of any sort 
can be blocked with little trouble -- it's the remaining content that's 
the problem, and there's more of it out there every day.  That said, the 
linux-firefox approach does work surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) 
well, as does acroread (a must for those of us with notebooks or LCD 
screens).  Doesn't mean I'm any less annoyed at the state of affairs.  
Or any more inclined to install Linux.  ;-)

Cheers.





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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Gerard Seibert wrote:
 On Friday 15 September 2006 12:01, Jona Joachim wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 MPlayer handles wmv streams just fine.
 You may want to check out www/mplayer-plugin, it works perfectly for
 mozilla.
 
 OK, I all ready have that installed. How am I suppose to configure it so 
 that when I click on a link that is suppose to require MS Media Player it 
 intercepts it and displays the streaming video?

The MPlayer plugin loads the streams on the cbsnews.com front page just
fine. What browser are you using? I know that the plugin works fine with
Mozilla and Firefox but it doesn't work in Opera (unfortunately). Type
about:plugins in the location bar and check for the Windows Media
Player Plugin entry. If you can't find it in the list then the browser
can't find the plugin, reinstalling may help.

--jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 05:52:45PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
 
 Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:

 Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
 Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

 I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
 install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
 I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
 provide their videos in a proper way.
 I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
 of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
 Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.
 Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.

 By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
 it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.
 It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
 Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox
 (even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from
 version 8 on.
 
 OK.   I see it.  But since I am running Firefox, it doesn't do much.
 Are you proposing to add SVG to Firefox or create a 'plugin' for
 Firefox?

SVG 1.1 Tiny became a W3C recommendation on 14th January 2003 so I
believe they will implement it sonner or later

--jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday 15 September 2006 13:38, Jona Joachim wrote:

 The MPlayer plugin loads the streams on the cbsnews.com front page just
 fine. What browser are you using? I know that the plugin works fine with
 Mozilla and Firefox but it doesn't work in Opera (unfortunately). Type
 about:plugins in the location bar and check for the Windows Media
 Player Plugin entry. If you can't find it in the list then the browser
 can't find the plugin, reinstalling may help.

There is nothing there about MPLayer. I have both Firefox and linux-firefox 
installed.

MPlayer works fine when I use it directly. How can I get it added to the 
plugins for Firefox?

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Sep 15, 2006, at 10:29 AM, George Allan wrote:

I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.


I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos  
programs
that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic  
demonstrations.

So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me to have
to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.


You can visit www.linuxcbt.com (cue the Linux jokes) for an  
illustrative
example.  All the videos are in swf format, most likely generated  
using

vnc2swf (available in ports, FWIW) or something similar.  As a side
note, mplayer doesn't support the swf format either.


That site seems to be selling instructional videos for $200 a pop.

While I suppose some people would pay that much to watch something in  
Flash like how to configure sendmail, rather than read the docs that  
come with the sendmail source tarball (or buy the O'Reilly Bat  
book, or subscribe to comp.mail.sendmail and ask there), and they are  
welcome to make such a decision, it would not be the decision I would  
make myself.


Responding to another point made in this thread:

On Sep 15, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Robert Huff wrote:

I am running into an increasing number of web sites - including
those of mega-corporations - where the home page is 100% Flash,
leaving no way to get inside if you don't do .swf.


The major problem with such an approach is that pure-Flash-based  
sites prevent critical aspects of browser functionality from working  
as designed-- things like bookmarks, the back button, and so forth.


Once in a while, I send a polite message to  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] indicating that a pure Flash site is  
a problem for those people who do not have Flash, and that if they  
decide to exclude potential customers (or partners, or investors,  
etc) as a result, well, doing so is their loss.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread RW



--On Friday, September 15, 2006 14:27:37 -0400 Gerard Seibert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Friday 15 September 2006 13:38, Jona Joachim wrote:


The MPlayer plugin loads the streams on the cbsnews.com front page just
fine. What browser are you using? I know that the plugin works fine with
Mozilla and Firefox but it doesn't work in Opera (unfortunately). Type
about:plugins in the location bar and check for the Windows Media
Player Plugin entry. If you can't find it in the list then the browser
can't find the plugin, reinstalling may help.


There is nothing there about MPLayer. I have both Firefox and
linux-firefox  installed.

MPlayer works fine when I use it directly. How can I get it added to the
plugins for Firefox?



Use:

www/mplayer-plugin

www/linux-mplayer-plugin

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 

Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash does work under
wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out of trouble
the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i just give up
altogether on the site.

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Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread White Hat
FreeBSD 6.1

I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
major problems is the inability to get flash to work
properly to display videos available on Google. I know
that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
persuade them to try FBSD?

I have KDE and Firefox installed obviously. I tried
loading a few of the flash packages available in the
ports, but they did not not seem to work.

Thanks!

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Peter

--- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FreeBSD 6.1
 
 I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
 FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
 major problems is the inability to get flash to work
 properly to display videos available on Google. I know
 that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
 out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
 persuade them to try FBSD?

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.

Peter

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.


Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread michael johnson

On 9/14/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FreeBSD 6.1

 I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
 FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
 major problems is the inability to get flash to work
 properly to display videos available on Google. I know
 that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
 out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
 persuade them to try FBSD?

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.



You can always just use www/linux-firefox and use flash with it.
It works quite well.


Peter


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread White Hat
--- michael johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install
linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the
ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all
work? 


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread michael johnson

On 9/14/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--- michael johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install
linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the
ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all
work?



Don't deinstall firefox. just install linux-firefox with
firefox.

www/linux-flashplugin7 has the plugin you want



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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Jona Joachim
Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
 
 Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
 
 I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
 install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.

I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
provide their videos in a proper way.
I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.

--jona
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread ajm
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:56:30PM -0400, michael johnson wrote:
 On 9/14/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 --- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FreeBSD 6.1
 
  I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
  FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
  major problems is the inability to get flash to work
  properly to display videos available on Google. I know
  that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
  out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
  persuade them to try FBSD?
 
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
 
 
 You can always just use www/linux-firefox and use flash with it.
 It works quite well.
 

I use www/linux-opera.  No problems here...

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.


Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.


--
-Chuck


Unfortunately a lot of consumer sites are starting to use flash as a  
semi-static and predictable way to deliver content to people; it's  
incredibly annoying, and becomes very noticeable once you install  
stuff that blocks SWF files: http://www.noscript.net/whats :). Thus,  
that is one solution to get rid of your ads (adblock+ is another, but  
meh), so you can keep Flash functionality and get rid of crappy Flash  
animations, while surfing the net.


Also, FYI: a lot of sites have built animations with (Adobe) Flash 9,  
so unless you have a Windows or Mac PC nearby you probably won't be  
able to load up animations on a Unix PC as the latest version  
available is 7.


-Garrett
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Bill-Schoolcraft
At Thu, 14 Sep 2006 it looks like White Hat composed:

 --- michael johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install
 linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the
 ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all
 work? 
 

Yes, I just went to test my bandwidth at
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest in order to see their gauge for
I was told it was nice, but it would not fly, had to switch to
another Unix variant to get it to work.

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 the speed of light, does anything happen? 

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firefox + flash translation

2006-07-18 Thread Christopher Hobbs
Greetings all!

I was thumbing through the archives and noticed that someone posted a link to
the following site:

http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081

They mentioned they couldn't read the language it was written in, so I
translated it.  Hopefully this will help some people.  It was written in
Brazilian portuguese.  My translation is available at:

http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/unixlike_translation.txt


Warm regards,
cmh
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Re: firefox + flash translation

2006-07-18 Thread Sergio Lenzi
Em Ter, 2006-07-18 às 14:14 +, Christopher Hobbs escreveu:

 Greetings all!
 
 I was thumbing through the archives and noticed that someone posted a link to
 the following site:
 
 http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081
 
 They mentioned they couldn't read the language it was written in, so I
 translated it.  Hopefully this will help some people.  It was written in
 Brazilian portuguese.  My translation is available at:
 
 http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/unixlike_translation.txt
 
 
 Warm regards,
 cmh


Thanks Cmh... it was time to translate to some more international
language...
even if portuguese is an easy language (here the kids about 3 years old
speak it very well...)
the information should be shared in english

Thanks again...
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Firefox + Flash work

2006-02-27 Thread Chandan Haldar

Anyone looking for a quick solution, this is what worked for me
on FreeBSD 6.0 Release.

I have /usr/ports extracted from the 6.0 Release ISO CD.  I also
have a directory which I named /home/newports extracted from
the latest portsnap download:
 portsnap -p /home/newports fetch
 portsnap -p /home/newports extract
followd by
 portsnap -p /home/newports update

The following steps gave me firefox 1.0.7 with a working flash 6
plugin:

 cd /usr/ports/www/firefox
 make install clean
 cd  /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6
 make install clean
 cd /home/newports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
 make install clean
 cp -i 
/usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD6 
/etc/libmap.conf


Finally edit /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh and add
 /usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6 to MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH
 (near the end of the script) (colon-separated path components)

Now run firefox as usual.

That was it for me.  Hope this or some variation of this helps
anyone who needs a working setup quickly.  Various linux
compatibility packages got installed in the process as
dependencies (list below) but none gave me any trouble.

linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_3 XFree86 libraries, Linux binary
linux-expat-1.95.5_3 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library
linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 The official Macromedia Flash Player for 
Linux Mozilla and
linux-flashplugin-7.0r61 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux 
Mozilla and

linux-fontconfig-2.1_3 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig
linux-glib2-2.2.1_3 Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port of GLib
linux_base-8-8.0_6  Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (only for 
i386)
linuxpluginwrapper-20051113 A wrapper allowing use of linux-plugins with 
native applica


Unfortunately the build of firefox 1.5 in /home/newports breaks
for me, so I cannot get firefox 1.5 and flash working together in
this manner yet.  Also, I installed linux-flashplugin7 the same
way, however, it crashes firefox 1.0.7 immediately at start, so I
removed the plugin path for flash 7 from MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH.

Firefox 1.0.7 + Flash 6 will keep me running until the new
versions stabilize.

Chandan

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Fwd: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems

2005-10-03 Thread Vladimir Tsvetkov
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From: Vladimir Tsvetkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005-10-3 11:02
Subject: Re: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems
To: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The Flash problem is solved!!!
The problem was in step 2:

 2. Install linuxpluginwrapper:
 # cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
 # make WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes install clean

I just explored the /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper/Makefile and I saw this:

.if !defined(WITHOUT_PLUGINS)
RUN_DEPENDS=${X11BASE}/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so:${PORTSDIR}/
www/linux-flashplugin6
RUN_DEPENDS+=   ${X11BASE}/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so:${PORTSDIR}/mult
imedia/linux-realplayer
#RUN_DEPENDS+=  ${LINUXBASE}/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf
.so:${PORTSDIR}/print/acroread7

.if ${OSVERSION}  50
USE_MOTIF=  yes
.endif

.endif

I had defined WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes, which meant that the nested .if
expession about using Motif on my system was not executed. My system
needs Motif to get the Flash plugin running. So I deinstalled it, and
installed it without defining this configuration variable:

# cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
# make install clean

Now, Flash works!!!

You can see also that I've commented out the line that will install
Acroread7 as a dependency, because I thought that Acroread5 will work
just fine for me. Obviously I am mistaken, because I still can't open
*.PDF in an embeded browser. And now, I'm just going to try another
install and maybe will use Acroread7.

Best Regards,
Vladimir
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Re: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems

2005-10-03 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/3/05, Vladimir Tsvetkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Vladimir Tsvetkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005-10-3 11:02
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems
 To: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 The Flash problem is solved!!!
 The problem was in step 2:

  2. Install linuxpluginwrapper:
  # cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
  # make WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes install clean

 I just explored the /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper/Makefile and I saw this:

 .if !defined(WITHOUT_PLUGINS)
 RUN_DEPENDS=
 ${X11BASE}/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so:${PORTSDIR}/
 www/linux-flashplugin6
 RUN_DEPENDS+=   
 ${X11BASE}/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so:${PORTSDIR}/mult
 imedia/linux-realplayer
 #RUN_DEPENDS+=  
 ${LINUXBASE}/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf
 .so:${PORTSDIR}/print/acroread7

 .if ${OSVERSION}  50
 USE_MOTIF=  yes
 .endif

 .endif

 I had defined WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes, which meant that the nested .if
 expession about using Motif on my system was not executed. My system
 needs Motif to get the Flash plugin running. So I deinstalled it, and
 installed it without defining this configuration variable:

 # cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
 # make install clean

 Now, Flash works!!!

 You can see also that I've commented out the line that will install
 Acroread7 as a dependency, because I thought that Acroread5 will work
 just fine for me. Obviously I am mistaken, because I still can't open
 *.PDF in an embeded browser. And now, I'm just going to try another
 install and maybe will use Acroread7.

 Best Regards,
 Vladimir
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A pr should be sent for the if's to be unnested.
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FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems

2005-10-02 Thread Vladimir Tsvetkov
I did everything like it was described in the how-to's about
installing plugins for native Firefox on FreeBSD. I use FreeBSD 4.9
Release, which at this moment is unsupported.

1. Install firefox:
# cd /usr/ports/www/firefox ; make install clean

2. Install linuxpluginwrapper:
# cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
# make WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes install clean

I use WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes, because I don't need acroread7 - I have
acroread5 and it perfectly fits my needs.
I got the following message:

Please enable libmap.conf(5) feature for rtld(1).
4-stable user:
You can get a following patch.
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/libmap_4stable.diff
   Please apply on /usr/src and make install on /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf:
   # cd /usr/src ; patch -p0  /tmp/libmap_4stable.diff
   # cd libexec/rtld-elf ; make clean all install
5.1-RELEASE user:
Please see /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper.

3. Patching:
I've downloaded the patch:
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/libmap_4stable.diff and than I tried
to apply it:
# cd /usr/src ; patch -p0  /tmp/libmap_4stable.diff

I got the following message:
Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--
|diff -urN libexec/rtld-elf.old/Makefile libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile
|--- libexec/rtld-elf.old/Makefile  Sun Jun 23 06:32:35 2002
|+++ libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile  Wed Oct  8 02:50:10 2003
--
File to patch:

Obviously, I don't have /usr/src/libexec sources installed.

4. Install the libexec sources:
I put the FreeBSD 4.9 Release installation CD in the CD-ROM.
# /stand/sysinstall
Configure-Distributions-src-libexec

5. Patch again:
# cd /usr/src ; patch -p0  /tmp/libmap_4stable.diff
# cd libexec/rtld-elf ; make clean all install

This now works.

6. Another try to install linuxpluginwrapper:
# cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
# make WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes install clean

No problems at all.

7. Install linux-flashplugin6:
# cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6
# make install clean

No problems at all.

8. Editing /etc/libmap.conf:
# /etc/libmap.conf for FreeBSD 4.x

# Flash6 with Mozilla Firefox
[/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so]
libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so
libdl.so.2  pluginwrapper/flash6.so
libz.so.1   libz.so.2
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.3
libm.so.6   libm.so.2
libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/flash6.so

# Acrobat5 with Mozilla Firefox
[/usr/X11R6/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so]
libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/acrobat.so

# Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla Firefox
[/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so]
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.3
libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/realplayer.so

I've checked every single Shared Object that is listed in my /etc/libmap.conf.

But there are no indications at all, that Firefox is using the
installed plugins. Still Firefox continues to inform me about missing
plugins.
I tried also, to configure Konqueror (3.1.4) to use the new plugins:
Settings-Configure Konqueror..-Plugins-Scan for new plugins
And I got the following error message:

The nspluginscan executable cannot be found. Netscape plugins will
not be scanned.

I searched the web for this problem and I found this on the
freebsd-questions maillist:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/053298.html

You have to compile /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3 with motif support. Run
'make config' to change that option, then recompile and install it.

I tried this, but the message above is outdated (Thu Jul 22 02:13:13
PDT 2004). Currently in the configuration of the kdebase3 port there
is only one option:

[X] Suid wrapper for aRts, req'd for realtime prio

I am aware that the version of FreeBSD that I use is no longer
supported, but is there any way to workaround the necessity of moving
to 4Stable, and to get a working plugins for the Firefox browser?

Best Regards,
Vladimir Tsvetkov
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Re: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems

2005-10-02 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/2/05, Vladimir Tsvetkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did everything like it was described in the how-to's about
 installing plugins for native Firefox on FreeBSD. I use FreeBSD 4.9
 Release, which at this moment is unsupported.

 1. Install firefox:
 # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox ; make install clean

 2. Install linuxpluginwrapper:
 # cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
 # make WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes install clean

 I use WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes, because I don't need acroread7 - I have
 acroread5 and it perfectly fits my needs.
 I got the following message:

 Please enable libmap.conf(5) feature for rtld(1).
 4-stable user:
 You can get a following patch.
 http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/libmap_4stable.diff
Please apply on /usr/src and make install on /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf:
# cd /usr/src ; patch -p0  /tmp/libmap_4stable.diff
# cd libexec/rtld-elf ; make clean all install
 5.1-RELEASE user:
 Please see /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper.

 3. Patching:
 I've downloaded the patch:
 http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/libmap_4stable.diff and than I tried
 to apply it:
 # cd /usr/src ; patch -p0  /tmp/libmap_4stable.diff

 I got the following message:
 Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
 The text leading up to this was:
 --
 |diff -urN libexec/rtld-elf.old/Makefile libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile
 |--- libexec/rtld-elf.old/Makefile  Sun Jun 23 06:32:35 2002
 |+++ libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile  Wed Oct  8 02:50:10 2003
 --
 File to patch:

 Obviously, I don't have /usr/src/libexec sources installed.

 4. Install the libexec sources:
 I put the FreeBSD 4.9 Release installation CD in the CD-ROM.
 # /stand/sysinstall
 Configure-Distributions-src-libexec

 5. Patch again:
 # cd /usr/src ; patch -p0  /tmp/libmap_4stable.diff
 # cd libexec/rtld-elf ; make clean all install

 This now works.

 6. Another try to install linuxpluginwrapper:
 # cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper
 # make WITHOUT_PLUGINS=yes install clean

 No problems at all.

 7. Install linux-flashplugin6:
 # cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6
 # make install clean

 No problems at all.

 8. Editing /etc/libmap.conf:
 # /etc/libmap.conf for FreeBSD 4.x

 # Flash6 with Mozilla Firefox
 [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so]
 libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so
 libdl.so.2  pluginwrapper/flash6.so
 libz.so.1   libz.so.2
 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.3
 libm.so.6   libm.so.2
 libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/flash6.so

 # Acrobat5 with Mozilla Firefox
 [/usr/X11R6/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so]
 libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/acrobat.so

 # Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla Firefox
 [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so]
 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.3
 libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/realplayer.so

 I've checked every single Shared Object that is listed in my /etc/libmap.conf.

 But there are no indications at all, that Firefox is using the
 installed plugins. Still Firefox continues to inform me about missing
 plugins.
 I tried also, to configure Konqueror (3.1.4) to use the new plugins:
 Settings-Configure Konqueror..-Plugins-Scan for new plugins
 And I got the following error message:

 The nspluginscan executable cannot be found. Netscape plugins will
 not be scanned.

 I searched the web for this problem and I found this on the
 freebsd-questions maillist:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/053298.html

 You have to compile /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3 with motif support. Run
 'make config' to change that option, then recompile and install it.

 I tried this, but the message above is outdated (Thu Jul 22 02:13:13
 PDT 2004). Currently in the configuration of the kdebase3 port there
 is only one option:

 [X] Suid wrapper for aRts, req'd for realtime prio

 I am aware that the version of FreeBSD that I use is no longer
 supported, but is there any way to workaround the necessity of moving
 to 4Stable, and to get a working plugins for the Firefox browser?

 Best Regards,
 Vladimir Tsvetkov
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Re: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems

2005-10-02 Thread RW
On Sunday 02 October 2005 15:31, Vladimir Tsvetkov wrote:

 But there are no indications at all, that Firefox is using the
 installed plugins. Still Firefox continues to inform me about missing
 plugins.

Did you follow all the instruction that were displayed when linuxpluginwrapper 
was installed. I didn't see any mention of the last one:

$ tail -n 4 /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper/pkg-message

Now start browser and go to 'about:plugins' and the new plugins
are enabled!
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