Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-19 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:45:03 -0400
Paul Chvostek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> QEMU can read and write vmdk files, so you may have an easy migration
> path. 
Well, i tried loading a pre-existing vmdk from Windows Vmware Wkstation 4.5 and
it just didnt work (it'd stall). I have to admit I couldn't spend much more
time on it so I moved on.

> But if your issue is speed, have you looked at the kqemu-kmod
> port?  It's the bit that allows guest code to run directly on the host
> cpu.  YMMV, but it seems to allow QEMU to run Windows guests at about
> the same speed as VMWare.  http://qemu.org/qemu-accel.html for details.

Definitely using kqemu-kmod. I was developing with eclipse under win32 and it
was rather painful... interestingly enough, the clock
inside the vm was ticking like crazy (4 or so times as fast as normal ) - i
ended up syncwing via ntp every 90 seconds :D. It could well be a fault in my
qemu config (pretty vanilla one )  but for what I need(ed) it, it does its
job.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Chvostek
> Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
> > Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
> > I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

It's a proper virtual machine, not like jail(8).  Check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines for a list
of alternatives.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 04:01:01PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
>
> I've only used it for hosting a WinXP-Pro guest - it's not as fast as
> VMWare,but i'm switching to linux just for that reason. And i wont be buying
> vmware workstation linux licenses (needed for VmWare Workstaion 3.x on FreeBSD
> host) - my Wkstation-Windows licenses are just fine (but not valid for linux,
> according to vmware's support).

QEMU can read and write vmdk files, so you may have an easy migration
path.  But if your issue is speed, have you looked at the kqemu-kmod
port?  It's the bit that allows guest code to run directly on the host
cpu.  YMMV, but it seems to allow QEMU to run Windows guests at about
the same speed as VMWare.  http://qemu.org/qemu-accel.html for details.

p

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:38:48 -0400
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
> Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
> I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

sure, works fine under freebsd. I just did a pkg_info -R qemu* and it doesn't
*seem* to depend on anything linux... the Makefile doesnt make any reference to
it either.

I've only used it for hosting a WinXP-Pro guest - it's not as fast as
VMWare,but i'm switching to linux just for that reason. And i wont be buying
vmware workstation linux licenses (needed for VmWare Workstaion 3.x on FreeBSD
host) - my Wkstation-Windows licenses are just fine (but not valid for linux,
according to vmware's support).

B

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)


On 18 September 2006, at 09:38, Jerry McAllister wrote:


On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash.


Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash  
does work under
wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out  
of trouble
the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i  
just give up

altogether on the site.


Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
I am hosting it under FreeBSD?


If it needs linux, use linux compatibility.



This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

jerry



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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 18 Sep Jerry McAllister wrote:
> Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
> Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if I
> am hosting it under FreeBSD?
> 
> This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

Qemu is great. I have a few "systems" in a qemu directory which I simply
call from a command windows with the right options.
At the moment I run XP/pro, Win98se, FreeDOS and a 'real' MS-DOS system
under Qemu *on_FreeBSD*. They all run great. Sound, networking, all.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
> RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 
> 
> Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash does work under
> wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out of trouble
> the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i just give up
> altogether on the site.

Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

jerry

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