Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:47:59 +0400 Dmitry Mityugov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/25/05, Z.C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good heat sink. What heat sink, what model? Just in case I need to buy one. Just to know what to avoid. I forget what model it is, but is a nice all copper one with a 60mm fan on it. Not taken the time to fully look at it, but I suspect it is something in odd with that board possibly. I've never had that proc getting that hot in other boards before. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On 6/22/05, Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? You sure you don't want to stick with Micro and FlexATX form facters? They are cheap, plentifully, and come in any configuration you can think of compared to mini-ITX ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good heat sink. As for a place to shop, I've found newegg.com to be nice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:51:42 -0500 Z.C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good heat sink. As for a place to shop, I've found newegg.com to be nice. N/M just noticed the question was about mini-itx, not micro-atx. ^_^ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On 6/25/05, Z.C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700 Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good heat sink. What heat sink, what model? Just in case I need to buy one. Just to know what to avoid. -- Dmitry We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what unless low performance (relative to CPU clocking) of periferals and memory isn't a problem for you all ITX boards should work. this lower end (800Mhz if i remember well) doesn't have cooler at all which is nice. but these VIA chipset is a bad thing. especially disk performance suffer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
Benjamin Keating wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I bought a VIA EPIA CL1000 (now PD, dual NIC) and a Morex Cubid 3688 case one year ago from mini-itx.com. I installed FBSD 4.10 and later FBSD 5.3-5.4 with out any problems. I haven't installed X11, I don't see the point as it's a server remotely controled with ssh, and I don't have a spare monitor anyway. The only issues I have had are: 'halt -p' reboots instead of powerdown, so I had to 'halt' then powerdown manually. ACPI doesn't read cpu temperature. I use it at home as my mail/web/whatever server with a DSL connection, generally with a load of 0.00. The DSL limits the traffic so it simply can't get too much network load. I have had one problem that gave me some grey hairs, which I initially thought it to be MB or disk problem, but it turned out to be ip-filter rather than hardware. mini-itx.com reports noice of 25dB. The fans may produce that level of noice if they were not mounted. I found resonances causing the box to be quite noicy, in particular the cpu fan. You can buy some stuff to make the fan run slower and it helps. But what really helps is to reduce vibrations: Raise the cpu fan a bit from the cooler plates using some heat tolerable silicon, this makes the fan run more freely and transfers less resonances to the cooler plates and onto the MB. Also place the box on rubber feet so it won't pass on vibrations. I run my box with only the cpu fan, no others, the box is hot but it runs without problems. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD mini-ITX
I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? Thanks! - bpk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Benjamin Keating wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I've got a VIA EPIA-M1000, a 1GHz VIA CentaurHauls C3 and 512MB of RAM. It mostly worked out-of-the-box (in textmode only, I haven't really tried getting X11 to work with the integrated video). Firewire and USB ports worked well, the vr0 (VIA Rhine II?) NIC worked OK but seemed to get a little flakey under high load and would drop traffic. I'm not unhappy with the hardware, but it's reliability under load is questionable compared to a Soekris 4511 or a generic Dell/Compaq/HP/ whatever box. I'd probably get a Mac Mini instead if I had to redo the choice today. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
Benjamin Keating wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? I've tried several of the VIA mini-itx boards (not with FreeBSD tho). Not bad. But: 1: cases aren't super plentiful and the nice ones aren't cheap 2: for a file server, I want gig-E, something not built on to the VIA boards, at least not since I've last checked (could be available now) 3: I think it actually ends up being cheaper to buy a little cube system w/ a standard AMD/Intel chip 4: Many of the cases for the via boards don't have multiple drive bays... since you mention file server, I assume you'd want to at least mirror 2 drives 5: for the price, you may just want to consider buying a USB-NAS adapter (Linksys and Dlink both have them) or getting a Buffalo Terrastation (or similar) and save yourself a lot of work assembling, etc. Of course, this assumes you only want to use the box as a fileserver. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:43 -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote: I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)? Thanks! - bpk I have tested a Via EPIA M1 a while ago. X installed and worked fine, but the internal graphic was to slow to playback xvid-movies with mplayer, an external pci-graphic card should solve this. The soundchip was supported out of the box too. Right now I have a Via EPIA PD1 (with two 10/100MBit LAN adapters onboard) with 512MB RAM running as a home dsl router / gateway / print-/fileserver but only for a small amount of not important data with one harddisk drive. I am quite happy with it, since it get its job done and does not use much electricity. To give you an idea of its speed: a 'make buildworld' of FreeBSD 5.4 is done in about 2 hours. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part