Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-26 Thread Z.C.B.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:47:59 +0400
Dmitry Mityugov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/25/05, Z.C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700
  Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a
   quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board
   (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not
   supported? I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are
   still a little new and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase
   from (in the US)?
  
  
  I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather
  nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz
  Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a
  good heat sink.
 
 What heat sink, what model?
 
 Just in case I need to buy one. Just to know what to avoid.

I forget what model it is, but is a nice all copper one with a 60mm
fan on it. Not taken the time to fully look at it, but I suspect it
is something in odd with that board possibly. I've never had that
proc getting that hot in other boards before.
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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-26 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 6/22/05, Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
 little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what
 model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go
 for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and
 pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?


You sure you don't want to stick with Micro and FlexATX form facters?
They are cheap, plentifully, and come in any configuration you can
think of compared to mini-ITX
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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-25 Thread Z.C.B.
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700
Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a
 quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board
 (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported?
 I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new
 and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?


I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather
nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz
Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good
heat sink.

As for a place to shop, I've found newegg.com to be nice.
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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-25 Thread Z.C.B.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:51:42 -0500
Z.C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700
 Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a
  quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board
  (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported?
  I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new
  and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?
 
 
 I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather
 nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz
 Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good
 heat sink.
 
 As for a place to shop, I've found newegg.com to be nice.

N/M just noticed the question was about mini-itx, not micro-atx. ^_^
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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-25 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 6/25/05, Z.C.B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:38 -0700
 Benjamin Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a
  quite little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board
  (what model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported?
  I'd go for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new
  and pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?
 
 
 I have a ASUS A7V400-MX. I use it for a router and it works rather
 nicely, but does run unusually hot for some reason. Got a 1.3GHz
 Durron in it and it runs at 64C idle, with the case open and a good
 heat sink.

What heat sink, what model?

Just in case I need to buy one. Just to know what to avoid.

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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what


unless low performance (relative to CPU clocking) of periferals and memory 
isn't a problem for you all ITX boards should work. this lower end (800Mhz 
if i remember well) doesn't have cooler at all which is nice.



but these VIA chipset is a bad thing. especially disk performance suffer.
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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-23 Thread Erik Nørgaard

Benjamin Keating wrote:

I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what
model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go
for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and
pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?


I bought a VIA EPIA CL1000 (now PD, dual NIC) and a Morex Cubid 3688 
case one year ago from mini-itx.com.


I installed FBSD 4.10 and later FBSD 5.3-5.4 with out any problems. I 
haven't installed X11, I don't see the point as it's a server remotely 
controled with ssh, and I don't have a spare monitor anyway.


The only issues I have had are: 'halt -p' reboots instead of powerdown, 
so I had to 'halt' then powerdown manually. ACPI doesn't read cpu 
temperature.


I use it at home as my mail/web/whatever server with a DSL connection, 
generally with a load of 0.00. The DSL limits the traffic so it simply 
can't get too much network load.


I have had one problem that gave me some grey hairs, which I initially 
thought it to be MB or disk problem, but it turned out to be ip-filter 
rather than hardware.


mini-itx.com reports noice of  25dB. The fans may produce that level of 
noice if they were not mounted. I found resonances causing the box to be 
quite noicy, in particular the cpu fan.


You can buy some stuff to make the fan run slower and it helps. But what 
really helps is to reduce vibrations: Raise the cpu fan a bit from the 
cooler plates using some heat tolerable silicon, this makes the fan run 
more freely and transfers less resonances to the cooler plates and onto 
the MB. Also place the box on rubber feet so it won't pass on vibrations.


I run my box with only the cpu fan, no others, the box is hot but it 
runs without problems.


Cheers, Erik
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FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-22 Thread Benjamin Keating
I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what
model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go
for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and
pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?

Thanks!
- bpk
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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-22 Thread Charles Swiger

On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Benjamin Keating wrote:

I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what
model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go
for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and
pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?


I've got a VIA EPIA-M1000, a 1GHz VIA CentaurHauls C3 and 512MB of  
RAM.  It mostly worked out-of-the-box (in textmode only, I haven't  
really tried getting X11 to work with the integrated video).   
Firewire and USB ports worked well, the vr0 (VIA Rhine II?) NIC  
worked OK but seemed to get a little flakey under high load and would  
drop traffic.


I'm not unhappy with the hardware, but it's reliability under load is  
questionable compared to a Soekris 4511 or a generic Dell/Compaq/HP/ 
whatever box.  I'd probably get a Mac Mini instead if I had to redo  
the choice today.


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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-22 Thread Brent Wiese

Benjamin Keating wrote:


I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what
model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go
for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and
pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?
 

I've tried several of the VIA mini-itx boards (not with FreeBSD tho). 
Not bad. But:


1: cases aren't super plentiful and the nice ones aren't cheap
2: for a file server, I want gig-E, something not built on to the VIA 
boards, at least not since I've last checked (could be available now)
3: I think it actually ends up being cheaper to buy a little cube system 
w/ a standard AMD/Intel chip
4: Many of the cases for the via boards don't have multiple drive 
bays... since you mention file server, I assume you'd want to at least 
mirror 2 drives
5: for the price, you may just want to consider buying a USB-NAS adapter 
(Linksys and Dlink both have them) or getting a Buffalo Terrastation (or 
similar) and save yourself a lot of work assembling, etc. Of course, 
this assumes you only want to use the box as a fileserver.


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Re: FreeBSD mini-ITX

2005-06-22 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:43 -0700, Benjamin Keating wrote:
 I've been eyeing up these mini-ITX boards - would like to make a quite
 little file server. Does anyone here run a mini-ITX board (what
 model)? Does it work out of the box? Anything not supported? I'd go
 for one of VIA's as AMD's and others are still a little new and
 pricey. Recommend a shop to purchase from (in the US)?
 
 Thanks!
 - bpk

I have tested a Via EPIA M1 a while ago. X installed and worked
fine, but the internal graphic was to slow to playback xvid-movies with
mplayer, an external pci-graphic card should solve this. The soundchip
was supported out of the box too.

Right now I have a Via EPIA PD1 (with two 10/100MBit LAN adapters
onboard) with 512MB RAM running as a home dsl router / gateway /
print-/fileserver but only for a small amount of not important data with
one harddisk drive.

I am quite happy with it, since it get its job done and does not use
much electricity. 

To give you an idea of its speed: a 'make buildworld' of FreeBSD 5.4 is
done in about 2 hours. 

Andreas

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