Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

--On February 9, 2011 1:31:45 PM -0500 Alfredo Perez 
 wrote:



Sorry for my question

But if I am reading correclty, you can run Freebsd as host,
install virtuabox and then run Mac OS X as guest?



No.  Mac OS X is the host.  FreeBSD is a guest virtual machine.

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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Matthew Seaman]

On 09/02/2011 18:31, Alfredo Perez wrote:
> But if I am reading correclty, you can run Freebsd as host,
> install virtuabox and then run Mac OS X as guest?

"Can" in an engineering sense -- yes, it's possible.

"Can" in a legal sense -- probably not.  You get a 'right to use' MacOS
X with the hardware you buy.  Even if you run MacOS X in a VM on your
original Mac hardware (which you've re-installed with some other OS),
you'ld be on rather dodgy ground, as the only way to make that work is
to use an illegally hacked version of MacOS X.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Alfredo Perez]

Sorry for my question

But if I am reading correclty, you can run Freebsd as host,
install virtuabox and then run Mac OS X as guest?

Thanks

The Sauce

On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 05:37:13PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On February 8, 2011 8:41:14 PM + Matthew Seaman 
>  wrote:
> 
> > On 08/02/2011 15:33, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> >> I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X
> >> 10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When
> >> you setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you
> >> to point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the
> >> OS. Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.
> >
> > Works for me on much the same kit.  As I recall, you need to play with
> > the CPU etc. settings a bit to find some combination that will boot.
> > Let's see...
> >
> >OS Type  FreeBSD (64 bit)
> >As much RAM as you want
> >One CPU
> >  Enable PAE/NX
> >VT-x/AMD-V Enabled
> >Nested Paging Enabled
> >  Enable IO APIC
> ^^^
> 
> That was the critical piece.  Once I did that the old familiar setup 
> routine came up.  I'm installing now.  Thanks for everyone's help.
> 
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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

--On February 8, 2011 8:41:14 PM + Matthew Seaman 
 wrote:



On 08/02/2011 15:33, Paul Schmehl wrote:

I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X
10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When
you setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you
to point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the
OS. Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.


Works for me on much the same kit.  As I recall, you need to play with
the CPU etc. settings a bit to find some combination that will boot.
Let's see...

   OS Type  FreeBSD (64 bit)
   As much RAM as you want
   One CPU
 Enable PAE/NX
   VT-x/AMD-V Enabled
   Nested Paging Enabled
 Enable IO APIC

^^^

That was the critical piece.  Once I did that the old familiar setup 
routine came up.  I'm installing now.  Thanks for everyone's help.


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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

--On February 8, 2011 8:14:19 PM +0200 George Liaskos 
 wrote:



The system is booting, but when it gets to

md0: Preloaded image  4194304 bytes at 0x80e6aa98
it stops and goes no further.


Try enabling IO APIC under System > Motherboard.


That solved the problem.  Thank you very much!

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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Matthew Seaman]

On 08/02/2011 15:33, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X
> 10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When
> you setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you
> to point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the
> OS. Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.

Works for me on much the same kit.  As I recall, you need to play with
the CPU etc. settings a bit to find some combination that will boot.
Let's see...

   OS Type  FreeBSD (64 bit)
   As much RAM as you want
   One CPU
 Enable PAE/NX
   VT-x/AMD-V Enabled
   Nested Paging Enabled
 Enable IO APIC
 Hardware clock in UTC time
 Enable absolute pointing device

   IDE Controller --> CD/DVD
   SATA Controller --> HardDrive.vdi

Most of these aren't mandatory other than (I think) IO APIC, but I can't
remember for sure.

I went the whole hog and installed this VM with ZFS as the root
filesystem, which works well enough, but isn't really particularly
clever as the VM only has 1GB RAM.  It's great for testing the v28 ZFS
patches though.

> That's not working for me.  I've tried both the disc iso and the dvd iso
> without success.  I haven't tried it, but I assume that if I burned the
> iso and popped it in a box that I would get the setup menu and be able
> to install the OS.

You can just save the .iso to your Mac's hard drive -- I created a
directory ~/Library/System-Images -- then use the VirtualBox media
manager to "mount" the .iso into your VM.  I'd use the DVD .iso simply
because it has more stuff in it.  Since you're not constrained by the
capacity of a physical drive, there's no reason to use anything smaller.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

--On February 8, 2011 12:00:23 PM -0600 Paul Schmehl 
 wrote:




I've attached a screenshot of the vm.  It's hung at this point and will
not go any further.


Screenshot may be found here:



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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[George Liaskos]

The system is booting, but when it gets to
> md0: Preloaded image  4194304 bytes at 0x80e6aa98 it
> stops and goes no further.

Try enabling IO APIC under System > Motherboard.
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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

--On February 8, 2011 10:24:47 AM -0600 Adam Vande More 
 wrote:



On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paul Schmehl
wrote:


I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X
10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When you
setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you to
point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the
OS. Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.

That's not working for me.  I've tried both the disc iso and the dvd iso
without success.  I haven't tried it, but I assume that if I burned the
iso and popped it in a box that I would get the setup menu and be able to
install the OS.

Is there some kind of trick required to get this working inside VB?



What's the difference between a disk iso and a dvd iso?


My assumption is that the former is in CD format and the latter is in DVD 
format.  I wouldn't think a vm would care either way.  It should be able to 
read both.



 From the VM's
settings page, chose storage.  Make sure the virtual DVD drive has the
correct iso.  Start the VM.  If you can't find the iso in the drop down
list it means you have to add it to the storage manager.  You could also
put the disc in the drive and and tell the VM to use the drive.



The iso was listed as secondary IDE, so I made it primary.  No difference. 
I then tried booting with ACPI disabled due to the errors I was seeing, but 
that made no difference either.  The system is booting, but when it gets to 
md0: Preloaded image  4194304 bytes at 0x80e6aa98 it 
stops and goes no further.



It's not anymore complicated than that really.  If that doesn't work, I'd
start looking at the disc and see if works.


I'm not using a disc.  I'm using an iso file.

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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

--On February 9, 2011 2:01:46 AM +0900 Hyogeol Lee  
wrote:





I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X
10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When you
setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you to
point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the OS.
Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.

That's not working for me.  I've tried both the disc iso and the dvd iso
without success.  I haven't tried it, but I assume that if I burned the
iso
and popped it in a box that I would get the setup menu and be able to
install the OS.

Is there some kind of trick required to get this working inside VB?




Did you try 8.1-i386 ?


I have failed to install 8.1-i386 under OSX VB. But 8.1-amd64 works fine
for me.



I tried amd since it's a 64 bit machine.

I've attached a screenshot of the vm.  It's hung at this point and will not 
go any further.


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FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Hyogeol Lee]

> I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X 
> 10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When you 
> setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you to 
> point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the OS. 
> Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.
> 
> That's not working for me.  I've tried both the disc iso and the dvd iso 
> without success.  I haven't tried it, but I assume that if I burned the iso 
> and popped it in a box that I would get the setup menu and be able to 
> install the OS.
> 
> Is there some kind of trick required to get this working inside VB?

Did you try 8.1-i386 ?

I have failed to install 8.1-i386 under OSX VB. But 8.1-amd64 works fine for me.


Regards,
Hyogeol Lee

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Re: FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Adam Vande More]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:

> I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X
> 10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When you
> setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you to point
> to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the OS. Then,
> when you boot the machine, setup begins.
>
> That's not working for me.  I've tried both the disc iso and the dvd iso
> without success.  I haven't tried it, but I assume that if I burned the iso
> and popped it in a box that I would get the setup menu and be able to
> install the OS.
>
> Is there some kind of trick required to get this working inside VB?
>

What's the difference between a disk iso and a dvd iso?  From the VM's
settings page, chose storage.  Make sure the virtual DVD drive has the
correct iso.  Start the VM.  If you can't find the iso in the drop down list
it means you have to add it to the storage manager.  You could also put the
disc in the drive and and tell the VM to use the drive.

It's not anymore complicated than that really.  If that doesn't work, I'd
start looking at the disc and see if works.



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FreeBSD 8.1 as a Virtualbox Guest OS

[Paul Schmehl]

I'm trying to setup a FreeBSD VM in Virtualbox.  The host OS is Mac OS X 
10.6.6.  I'm already running Windows 7 64 bit with no problems.  When you 
setup a new VM, you get a first time startup scenario that asks you to 
point to a file (iso usually) that contains the setup program for the OS. 
Then, when you boot the machine, setup begins.


That's not working for me.  I've tried both the disc iso and the dvd iso 
without success.  I haven't tried it, but I assume that if I burned the iso 
and popped it in a box that I would get the setup menu and be able to 
install the OS.


Is there some kind of trick required to get this working inside VB?

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