Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-22 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:00:19 -0500, matt donovan  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
> > >>
> > >> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
> > >> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
> > >
> > > I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
> > > import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then move
> > > them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
> > > Thunderbird there?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> > > Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
> > > account of tempests during fair weather."
> >
> > I don't know. I haven't used OE in over 10 years.
> >
> 
> From what I heard no since Windows thunderbird is different then the layout
> of the *nix thunderbird. but that was a while ago I heard that

As far as I know - it's been a long time, please mind this - OE
uses a proprietary mail storage system, while TB uses the standard
mbox system. The FreeBSD ports do contain a converter OE -> mbox,
and after transforming the OE boxes into mbox format, they should
be importable without problems.

Another idea would be to "manually import" them, this means that
you would not use TB's import function, but instead locate where
it stores mail, check file naming conventions and then put the mail
in there manually, hoping that TB would recognize and maybe index
them at next startup.

I'm not sure about how the OE -> mbox converter from the ports
collection was called, but I remember having read it somewhere...

Sorry for being such unprecise, but I haven't used any MICROS~1
product for more than 20 years now... =^_^=



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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-21 Thread matt donovan
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
> >>
> >> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
> >> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
> >
> > I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
> > import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then move
> > them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
> > Thunderbird there?
> >
> > --
> > Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> > Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
> > account of tempests during fair weather."
>
> I don't know. I haven't used OE in over 10 years.
>
> Kurt
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>From what I heard no since Windows thunderbird is different then the layout
of the *nix thunderbird. but that was a while ago I heard that
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-21 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>
>> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
>> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
>
> I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
> import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then move
> them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
> Thunderbird there?
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
> account of tempests during fair weather."

I don't know. I haven't used OE in over 10 years.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
> 
> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
> by George Davidovich is your best bet.

I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then move
them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import them to
Thunderbird there?

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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Grant Peel  wrote:
> Kurt Buff wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Chuck Swiger  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Grant Peel wrote:
>>>

 A couple of more questions if anyone has the time.
 2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know it
 can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature (running
 Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is there a way?

>>>
>>> Aside from doing the import on Windows?  Unix versions of T'bird have no
>>> knowledge of Microsoft's PST files, but I suppose you could upload your
>>> Outlook email to an IMAP server and then download those messages normally
>>> from there.
>>>
>>
>> Outlook != Outlook Express. OE, last I looked, stores its mail in a
>> .mbx file, which isn't compatible with .pst files.
>>
>> Beyond that, I can't say.
>>
>> Kurt
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> Hi Guys,
>
> Looking at the folders on Outlook Express, they are in *.dbx format.
>
> Does this help?
>
> -Grant

Sorry, my memory led me astray - they are .dbx files.

And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure described
by George Davidovich is your best bet.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread cwt

George Davidovich wrote:

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 07:47:38PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
  

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:54:24PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
 


2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know
it can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature
(running Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is
there a way?
  

The /usr/ports/mail/libpst port contains a tool called readpst which
can convert them to e.g. mailbox (mbox) format. Thunderbird should be
able to import mbox files.



Never used Outlook Express, but its file format, IIRC, is different than
that used by Outlook (.pst).
  

shoulf be easy to import outlook express into outlook

Either way, the best option would be to install Thunderbird on the
Windows machine and use Thunderbird there to import the OE mail.  The
resulting mbox file(s) can then be simply copied over to his FreeBSD
box.

  


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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Grant Peel

Kurt Buff wrote:

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Chuck Swiger  wrote:
  

On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Grant Peel wrote:


A couple of more questions if anyone has the time.
2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know it
can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature (running
Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is there a way?
  

Aside from doing the import on Windows?  Unix versions of T'bird have no
knowledge of Microsoft's PST files, but I suppose you could upload your
Outlook email to an IMAP server and then download those messages normally
from there.



Outlook != Outlook Express. OE, last I looked, stores its mail in a
.mbx file, which isn't compatible with .pst files.

Beyond that, I can't say.

Kurt
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Hi Guys,

Looking at the folders on Outlook Express, they are in *.dbx format.

Does this help?

-Grant
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread George Davidovich
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 07:47:38PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:54:24PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
>  
> > 2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know
> > it can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature
> > (running Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is
> > there a way?
> 
> The /usr/ports/mail/libpst port contains a tool called readpst which
> can convert them to e.g. mailbox (mbox) format. Thunderbird should be
> able to import mbox files.

Never used Outlook Express, but its file format, IIRC, is different than
that used by Outlook (.pst).

Either way, the best option would be to install Thunderbird on the
Windows machine and use Thunderbird there to import the OE mail.  The
resulting mbox file(s) can then be simply copied over to his FreeBSD
box.

A randomly-selected HowTo link:

http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/support/Getting%20mail%20from%20Outlook%20to%20Thunderbird/

Also, given that he's already using Thunderbird, I'd suggest the
following be done first:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/dictionaries.html

:-)

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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Roland Smith  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:54:24PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
>
>> 2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know it
>> can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature (running
>> Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is there a way?
>
> The /usr/ports/mail/libpst port contains a tool called readpst which can
> convert them to e.g. mailbox (mbox) format. Thunderbird should be able
> to import mbox files.

Outlook != Outlook Express.

libpst might be able to read OE's .mbx files, but I doubt it.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Chuck Swiger  wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Grant Peel wrote:
>>
>> A couple of more questions if anyone has the time.
>> 2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know it
>> can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature (running
>> Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is there a way?
>
> Aside from doing the import on Windows?  Unix versions of T'bird have no
> knowledge of Microsoft's PST files, but I suppose you could upload your
> Outlook email to an IMAP server and then download those messages normally
> from there.

Outlook != Outlook Express. OE, last I looked, stores its mail in a
.mbx file, which isn't compatible with .pst files.

Beyond that, I can't say.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:54:24PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

> 1. I have been searching for a iTunes client. i.e. a player that I can 
> play my iTunes on. Does such a thing exist? 

There are lots of players capabable of playing mp3 in
/usr/ports/multimedia/, e.g. audacious, amarok, xmms2, xmms (old).

Only iTunes can play restricted (DRM encumbered) aac files.

> Is there an iTunes client that can connect to the iTunes store?

Not natively. You could try running the windows version of iTunes under
the wine emulator (/usr/ports/emulators/wine).
 
> 2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know it 
> can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature (running 
> Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is there a way?

The /usr/ports/mail/libpst port contains a tool called readpst which can
convert them to e.g. mailbox (mbox) format. Thunderbird should be able
to import mbox files.
 
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Grant Peel wrote:

A couple of more questions if anyone has the time.

1. I have been searching for a iTunes client. i.e. a player that I  
can play my iTunes on. Does such a thing exist?


Mplayer and xine should understand and be able to play unprotected AAC  
files.  A more complete list is available here:


  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding#Other_software_media_players


Is there an iTunes client that can connect to the iTunes store?


Not aside from iTunes itself, no.  If you are interested in seeing a  
Linux or BSD version of iTunes, consider filing an enhancement request  
against https://bugreport.apple.com


2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know  
it can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature  
(running Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is  
there a way?


Aside from doing the import on Windows?  Unix versions of T'bird have  
no knowledge of Microsoft's PST files, but I suppose you could upload  
your Outlook email to an IMAP server and then download those messages  
normally from there.


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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Grant Peel

Ricardo Jesus wrote:

Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

Well, over the past few days I have made the transition to FreeBSD 
(6.4) as the primary OS on my home computer. I am currently running 
GNOME as a desktop, and it seems to be running well. Indeed, I am 
using Thunderbird to write this email!


I have a couple of questions regarding the transition:

1. Does there exist a port or package, a messenger program, that is 
compatible with Windoze Live Messenger? i.e. can I log in similar to 
live messenger and see my contacts and collaborate with them?
Pidgin is a nice GTK program that works well with Windows Live Message 
network.


2. Can I use any type of pictures for the desktop wallpaper? Where 
might I find some good wallpaper depicting the FreeBSD Daemon and Logo?

Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/art.html


3. How does one add a device to the desktop as an icon? i.e. an 
external USB drive?
Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html. I'm sure it 
will answer (or point you to) your Gnome related questions.


TIA,

-Grant
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Thanks Richard,

A couple of more questions if anyone has the time.

1. I have been searching for a iTunes client. i.e. a player that I can 
play my iTunes on. Does such a thing exist? Is there an iTunes client 
that can connect to the iTunes store?


2. I want to import my Oulook express folders to Thinderbird. I know it 
can be done on windows, but when I try the impirt feature (running 
Thunderbord on FreeBSD), there is no option to do this. Is there a way?


-Grant
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Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Ricardo Jesus

Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

Well, over the past few days I have made the transition to FreeBSD (6.4) 
as the primary OS on my home computer. I am currently running GNOME as a 
desktop, and it seems to be running well. Indeed, I am using Thunderbird 
to write this email!


I have a couple of questions regarding the transition:

1. Does there exist a port or package, a messenger program, that is 
compatible with Windoze Live Messenger? i.e. can I log in similar to 
live messenger and see my contacts and collaborate with them?
Pidgin is a nice GTK program that works well with Windows Live Message 
network.


2. Can I use any type of pictures for the desktop wallpaper? Where might 
I find some good wallpaper depicting the FreeBSD Daemon and Logo?

Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/art.html


3. How does one add a device to the desktop as an icon? i.e. an external 
USB drive?
Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html. I'm sure it will 
answer (or point you to) your Gnome related questions.


TIA,

-Grant
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FreeBSD Transition Questions.

2009-01-13 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

Well, over the past few days I have made the transition to FreeBSD (6.4) 
as the primary OS on my home computer. I am currently running GNOME as a 
desktop, and it seems to be running well. Indeed, I am using Thunderbird 
to write this email!


I have a couple of questions regarding the transition:

1. Does there exist a port or package, a messenger program, that is 
compatible with Windoze Live Messenger? i.e. can I log in similar to 
live messenger and see my contacts and collaborate with them?


2. Can I use any type of pictures for the desktop wallpaper? Where might 
I find some good wallpaper depicting the FreeBSD Daemon and Logo?


3. How does one add a device to the desktop as an icon? i.e. an external 
USB drive?


TIA,

-Grant
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