Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:51:40 +0300, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good point.  I'm too sleepy right now (the coffee hasn't started kicking
 in yet from a very early wake up), but it would be nice if we also added
 a note to the article saying that it is important to have the correct
 locale environment *before* the X server fires up, to make sure that all
 X11 programs grok Greek.

 Manolis, if you feel like it, and you get to it before I do later today,
 can you add a note like this?  If you don't, I'll get around to it when
 I finish some early morning errands.

 Done, and pushed along with a few minor other fixes.

In CVS now too.  Thanks! :-)

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Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-18 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Tore Lund wrote:

Dimitris Giakoudis wrote:
  

...
applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and 
everything is in Greek now. I have a problem though when viewing

web pages that are encoded with el_GR, there are spaces among the
letters and it is really ugly.



Have you got examples of such web pages?  I read some Greek things on
the Net, and I have no problem with spaces among the letters.
  


I know the symptom Dimitris describes and it is easily solved by 
installing truetype fonts like the webfonts port or your own truetype 
fonts in ~/.fonts
Dimitris you may allso want to check your settings in your shell startup 
scripts i.e. (assuming bash)


export LANG=el_GR.ISO8859-7
or
export LANG=el_GR.UTF-8
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Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:39:19 +0300, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tore Lund wrote:
 Dimitris Giakoudis wrote:
 applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and
 everything is in Greek now. I have a problem though when viewing web
 pages that are encoded with el_GR, there are spaces among the
 letters and it is really ugly.

 Have you got examples of such web pages?  I read some Greek things on
 the Net, and I have no problem with spaces among the letters.

 I know the symptom Dimitris describes and it is easily solved by
 installing truetype fonts like the webfonts port or your own truetype
 fonts in ~/.fonts Dimitris you may allso want to check your settings
 in your shell startup scripts i.e. (assuming bash)

 export LANG=el_GR.ISO8859-7
 or
 export LANG=el_GR.UTF-8

Good point.  I'm too sleepy right now (the coffee hasn't started kicking
in yet from a very early wake up), but it would be nice if we also added
a note to the article saying that it is important to have the correct
locale environment *before* the X server fires up, to make sure that all
X11 programs grok Greek.

Manolis, if you feel like it, and you get to it before I do later today,
can you add a note like this?  If you don't, I'll get around to it when
I finish some early morning errands.

- Giorgos

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Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-18 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:39:19 +0300, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Tore Lund wrote:


Dimitris Giakoudis wrote:
  

applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and
everything is in Greek now. I have a problem though when viewing web
pages that are encoded with el_GR, there are spaces among the
letters and it is really ugly.


Have you got examples of such web pages?  I read some Greek things on
the Net, and I have no problem with spaces among the letters.
  

I know the symptom Dimitris describes and it is easily solved by
installing truetype fonts like the webfonts port or your own truetype
fonts in ~/.fonts Dimitris you may allso want to check your settings
in your shell startup scripts i.e. (assuming bash)

export LANG=el_GR.ISO8859-7
or
export LANG=el_GR.UTF-8



Good point.  I'm too sleepy right now (the coffee hasn't started kicking
in yet from a very early wake up), but it would be nice if we also added
a note to the article saying that it is important to have the correct
locale environment *before* the X server fires up, to make sure that all
X11 programs grok Greek.

Manolis, if you feel like it, and you get to it before I do later today,
can you add a note like this?  If you don't, I'll get around to it when
I finish some early morning errands.

- Giorgos

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Done, and pushed along with a few minor other fixes.

Manolis
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RE: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-16 Thread Dimitris Giakoudis
Hi Giorgos.
I like the changes you made and I think you should include this part to the
article. It will help many Greek users out there :)

Regards,
Dimitris

-Original Message-
From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:27 AM
To: Dimitris Giakoudis
Cc: Nikos Kokkalis; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:59:10 +0300, Dimitris Giakoudis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, x11-fonts/webfonts was the missing part of the puzzle :)
 Now, greek web pages seem pretty nice.

 Nikos, I think you should include this to the article.

Hi Dimitris.  Thanks for taking the time to post a [SOLVED] message.

I've prepared a proposed change/addition to the article, which is now
online in diff/patch format at:

http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/96b47edf541f

The text is in Greek, so it would be nice if you could review the
section I added (the 'green' lines).  Then if both you and Nikos like
the changes, I can commit it to the main CVS tree too.

Cheers,
Giorgos

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Re: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:37:38 +0300, Dimitris Giakoudis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 Hi Dimitris.  Thanks for taking the time to post a [SOLVED] message.

 I've prepared a proposed change/addition to the article, which is now
 online in diff/patch format at:

 http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/96b47edf541f

 The text is in Greek, so it would be nice if you could review the
 section I added (the 'green' lines).  Then if both you and Nikos like
 the changes, I can commit it to the main CVS tree too.

 Hi Giorgos.
 I like the changes you made and I think you should include this
 part to the article. It will help many Greek users out there :)

Committed, thanks!  The changes should appear online after the
next automated rebuild of our docs :)

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FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-15 Thread Dimitris Giakoudis
Hello, 

 

I use FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 i386 with custom kernel, xfce4 for gui and
firefox

(everything is installed using ports) for my desktop computer. I recently
found this

article
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7/articles/greek-language-support/a
rticle.html,

applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and everything
is in Greek now. I

have a problem though when viewing web pages that are encoded with el_GR,
there are spaces

among the letters and it is really ugly. Well, these spaces existed before
making the changes

that the article suggests.

 

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

 

Thanks in advance, Dimitris.

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Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-15 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:41:28 +0300, Dimitris Giakoudis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Hello,

 I use FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 i386 with custom kernel, xfce4 for gui and
 firefox

 (everything is installed using ports) for my desktop computer. I recently
 found this

 article
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7/articles/greek-language-support/a
 rticle.html,

 applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and everything
 is in Greek now. I

You don't really need specifically the urwfonts collection, since any
TTF font works fine in X11.  The webfonts collection should work too,
I guess.

 have a problem though when viewing web pages that are encoded with
 el_GR, there are spaces among the letters and it is really ugly. Well,
 these spaces existed before making the changes that the article
 suggests.

I'm not sure what spaces these are.  Can you show us a screenshot of
what you see?

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Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-15 Thread Tore Lund
Dimitris Giakoudis wrote:
 ...
 applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and 
 everything is in Greek now. I have a problem though when viewing
 web pages that are encoded with el_GR, there are spaces among the
 letters and it is really ugly.

Have you got examples of such web pages?  I read some Greek things on
the Net, and I have no problem with spaces among the letters.
-- 
Tore

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Re: FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-15 Thread Nikos Kokkalis
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Dimitris Giakoudis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,



 I use FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 i386 with custom kernel, xfce4 for gui and
 firefox

 (everything is installed using ports) for my desktop computer. I recently
 found this

 article
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7/articles/greek-language-support/a
 rticle.html,

 applied the settings and installed 'ports/x11-fonts/urwfonts' and everything
 is in Greek now.
Try to install 'ports/x11-fonts/webfonts' too.
I am very happy listening that my article helped you.
 I

 have a problem though when viewing web pages that are encoded with el_GR,
 there are spaces

 among the letters and it is really ugly. Well, these spaces existed before
 making the changes

 that the article suggests.



 Does anyone know how I can fix this?



 Thanks in advance, Dimitris.

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[SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-15 Thread Dimitris Giakoudis
So, x11-fonts/webfonts was the missing part of the puzzle :)
Now, greek web pages seem pretty nice.

Nikos, I think you should include this to the article.

Thank you all,
Dimitris.

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Re: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-15 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:59:10 +0300, Dimitris Giakoudis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 So, x11-fonts/webfonts was the missing part of the puzzle :)
 Now, greek web pages seem pretty nice.

 Nikos, I think you should include this to the article.

Hi Dimitris.  Thanks for taking the time to post a [SOLVED] message.

I've prepared a proposed change/addition to the article, which is now
online in diff/patch format at:

http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/96b47edf541f

The text is in Greek, so it would be nice if you could review the
section I added (the 'green' lines).  Then if both you and Nikos like
the changes, I can commit it to the main CVS tree too.

Cheers,
Giorgos

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