Re: FreeBSD has Two Firewalls?

2004-02-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Loren M. Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It looks like ipfilter is a newer and more improved over ipfw

They're independent implementations.

> It looks like ipfilter is a newer and more improved over ipfw, but I'm
> not sure.  I'm looking for a good firewall with similar functionality to
> linux's netfilter.

Which, as I understand it, is a descendent of ipchains.  ipchains is a
descendent of an older version of ipfw.

> linux's netfilter.  Previously I was doing some somewhat sophisticated
> things like disabling or limiting internet access for certain indivuals
> depending on the time of day, as well as using connection helpers for
> ftp, irc, etc.  What's the best firewall to use for this?

There's a lot of Linux-specific terminology in there, so I can't
really unwind it very well.  I don't know of any support for
time-of-day modifications, but I'd expect that somebody out there has
written it.  Depending on the exact requirements, it may even be
trivial.  "Connection helpers" sounds like automatic proxy support,
which I'm not crazy about but which I know ipfilter does somewhat more
extensively than ipfw.

The big advantage of ipfw is that dummynet(4) hooks in through it.
Dummynet is a traffic shaper, as well as a framework that sort of
resembles (as far as I understand) netfilter.

Also note that it's perfectly possible and often quite convenient to
use more than one firewall program...
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Re: FreeBSD has Two Firewalls?

2004-02-11 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 08:43:26AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> "Loren M. Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm trying to learn how to configure my firewall on FreeBSD and there
> > seems to be quite a few commands related to it.  It looks like, though,
> > that FreeBSD has two different implentations of firewalls.  One uses
> > ipfw to configure it and has natd for nat, the other uses ipf and has
> > ipmon, ipnat, ipfs for controlling it.  Is this true?
> 
> Pretty much.
> 
> There are some more firewall implementations in the ports, as well.

It looks like ipfilter is a newer and more improved over ipfw, but I'm
not sure.  I'm looking for a good firewall with similar functionality to
linux's netfilter.  Previously I was doing some somewhat sophisticated
things like disabling or limiting internet access for certain indivuals
depending on the time of day, as well as using connection helpers for
ftp, irc, etc.  What's the best firewall to use for this?

> 
> > Where are some good references for learning the packet filter on
> > FreeBSD?
> 
> The FreeBSD Handbook and the manual are usually plenty.

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Re: FreeBSD has Two Firewalls?

2004-02-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Loren M. Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to learn how to configure my firewall on FreeBSD and there
> seems to be quite a few commands related to it.  It looks like, though,
> that FreeBSD has two different implentations of firewalls.  One uses
> ipfw to configure it and has natd for nat, the other uses ipf and has
> ipmon, ipnat, ipfs for controlling it.  Is this true?

Pretty much.

There are some more firewall implementations in the ports, as well.

> Where are some good references for learning the packet filter on
> FreeBSD?

The FreeBSD Handbook and the manual are usually plenty.
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FreeBSD has Two Firewalls?

2004-02-11 Thread Loren M. Lang
I'm trying to learn how to configure my firewall on FreeBSD and there
seems to be quite a few commands related to it.  It looks like, though,
that FreeBSD has two different implentations of firewalls.  One uses
ipfw to configure it and has natd for nat, the other uses ipf and has
ipmon, ipnat, ipfs for controlling it.  Is this true?

Where are some good references for learning the packet filter on
FreeBSD?

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I sense much NT in you.
NT leads to Bluescreen.
Bluescreen leads to downtime.
Downtime leads to suffering.
NT is the path to the darkside.
Powerful Unix is.

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