Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: HP Officejet Printer


 On 05 Jul Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  
  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4300
  
  ...these printers are supported by the hpijs driver beginning from
  version 1.3. The driver supports resolutions only up to 600 dpi, head
  alignment settings stored in the printer are not made use of, so use a
  one-cartridge (CMY) printing mode in case of mis-alignments
  
  perfectly?
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   This printer works perfectly with apsfilter. The latter does /not/
   need cups (luckely imho) but works very well with the standard unix
   lpd.
 
 OK, the definition for perfectly does not agree with my statement.
 Otoh, my laserjet uses 600dpi and that is (for normal use) quite good.
 If I need higher qualities I use a printshop.
 As I understood the OP is a home user and in that sence 600dpi is ok.
 As for the heads: you have a point there.
 I could live with that and would buy a one-head-cartridge though;-)
 
 And, most importantly (to me), NO cups ;-)
 

Yeah, they are uncomfortable things to wear, aren't they? ;-)

A long time ago I posted instructions to the list on how to replace
cups with lpr, given -any- printer, -any- driver.  What I have observed
is the prevelance of the use of cups in the online guides for hooking
up printers is because most people writing most of those guides out
there really don't understand how all the programs interrelate with
each other, and are merely copying other people's guides in how
to set the things up.

Just about all the online printer setup guides that use cups in the
examples are tracable back to the instructions for setting up a printer
in gnome, on a Linux box where the distribution had gnome 
preinstalled, since cups is also preinstalled.

All cups does is muck with config files, it does not actually do
any conversion.  The engines that do the heavy lifting are
ghostscript, which either converts postscript input direct to
printerspeak, for the limited number of drivers compiled into
it, or converts it to an intermediate format that is massaged
by gimpprint, or the manufacturers driver (ie: hp's driver for
example) into the printerspeak needed by the particular printer
model.  You do not need cups, or apsfilter for that matter, to
plug the engines into each other.

The other thing that is often missed is that for printers like the
Epson stylus c84 that I have, or the officejet that the OP has,
to get from postscript into the gross muck that these winprinters
can understand, takes a huge amount of CPU cycles for anything
complex.  Pentium systems under 1Ghz need not apply.

Ted
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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-07 Thread doug

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



- Original Message -
From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: HP Officejet Printer



On 05 Jul Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4300

...these printers are supported by the hpijs driver beginning from
version 1.3. The driver supports resolutions only up to 600 dpi, head
alignment settings stored in the printer are not made use of, so use a
one-cartridge (CMY) printing mode in case of mis-alignments

perfectly?



- Original Message -
From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This printer works perfectly with apsfilter. The latter does /not/
need cups (luckely imho) but works very well with the standard unix
lpd.


OK, the definition for perfectly does not agree with my statement.
Otoh, my laserjet uses 600dpi and that is (for normal use) quite good.
If I need higher qualities I use a printshop.
As I understood the OP is a home user and in that sence 600dpi is ok.
As for the heads: you have a point there.
I could live with that and would buy a one-head-cartridge though;-)

And, most importantly (to me), NO cups ;-)



Yeah, they are uncomfortable things to wear, aren't they? ;-)

A long time ago I posted instructions to the list on how to replace
cups with lpr, given -any- printer, -any- driver.  What I have observed
is the prevelance of the use of cups in the online guides for hooking
up printers is because most people writing most of those guides out
there really don't understand how all the programs interrelate with
each other, and are merely copying other people's guides in how
to set the things up.

Just about all the online printer setup guides that use cups in the
examples are tracable back to the instructions for setting up a printer
in gnome, on a Linux box where the distribution had gnome
preinstalled, since cups is also preinstalled.

All cups does is muck with config files, it does not actually do
any conversion.  The engines that do the heavy lifting are
ghostscript, which either converts postscript input direct to
printerspeak, for the limited number of drivers compiled into
it, or converts it to an intermediate format that is massaged
by gimpprint, or the manufacturers driver (ie: hp's driver for
example) into the printerspeak needed by the particular printer
model.  You do not need cups, or apsfilter for that matter, to
plug the engines into each other.

The other thing that is often missed is that for printers like the
Epson stylus c84 that I have, or the officejet that the OP has,
to get from postscript into the gross muck that these winprinters
can understand, takes a huge amount of CPU cycles for anything
complex.  Pentium systems under 1Ghz need not apply.

Ted


Could you either repost your lpr email or if you remember the subject? I have 
access to questions back toOct 1999 with 2.115 posts from you :) We have 
FreeBSDing on workstations pretty weill in hand (thanks Xorg/KDE) but printing 
remains beyond our grasp.

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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-06 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 05 Jul Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4300
 
 ...these printers are supported by the hpijs driver beginning from
 version 1.3. The driver supports resolutions only up to 600 dpi, head
 alignment settings stored in the printer are not made use of, so use a
 one-cartridge (CMY) printing mode in case of mis-alignments
 
 perfectly?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  This printer works perfectly with apsfilter. The latter does /not/
  need cups (luckely imho) but works very well with the standard unix
  lpd.

OK, the definition for perfectly does not agree with my statement.
Otoh, my laserjet uses 600dpi and that is (for normal use) quite good.
If I need higher qualities I use a printshop.
As I understood the OP is a home user and in that sence 600dpi is ok.
As for the heads: you have a point there.
I could live with that and would buy a one-head-cartridge though;-)

And, most importantly (to me), NO cups ;-)

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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-06 Thread E. J. Cerejo
Unfortunately it doesn't work with mine.  I probably need to go with CUPS I 
just have no idea where to start, I haven't found any tutorial easy to 
understand yet.

Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: E. J. Cerejo wrote:
 I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer 
  for my birthday, it's an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to
  have an old HP Deskjet 842c and worked fine using apsfilter but I
  can't make this one print, I don't see any drivers for it using
  apsfilter either, is there a way to make this thing work?
 

Dunno if it helps, but I print to an HP 6110 all-in-one
with the ijs/DESKJET_930 driver and apsfilter with fairly
decent results.

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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-05 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 04 Jul Anish Mistry wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 July 2006 20:53, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
   Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Tuesday 04 
 July 2006 20:35, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer for my
birthday, it's an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to have
an old HP Deskjet 842c and worked fine using apsfilter but I
can't make this one print, I don't see any drivers for it using
apsfilter either, is there a way to make this thing work?
  
   print/hplip
 
  Installing it is easy but how do I have to do to make it work, what
  files I have to configure?  Does it work using apsfilter?
 I missed the apsfilter part.  It uses cups.  You need to have the 
 printer attach as a ugen device, make the changes to devfs.rules in 
 the pkg-message and add the necessary lines to rc.conf to start it 
 all.

This printer works perfectly with apsfilter. The latter does /not/ need
cups (luckely imho) but works very well with the standard unix lpd.

Install apsfilter with portinstall -rR apsfilter and you'll be happy.
You can also go for cups, but make sure you read some installation papers
on the net very carefully. Google is your friend.

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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-05 Thread Kevin Kinsey

E. J. Cerejo wrote:
I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer 

 for my birthday, it's an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to
 have an old HP Deskjet 842c and worked fine using apsfilter but I
 can't make this one print, I don't see any drivers for it using
 apsfilter either, is there a way to make this thing work?




Dunno if it helps, but I print to an HP 6110 all-in-one
with the ijs/DESKJET_930 driver and apsfilter with fairly
decent results.

Kevin Kinsey

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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4300

...these printers are supported by the hpijs driver beginning from
version 1.3. The driver supports resolutions only up to 600 dpi, head
alignment settings stored in the printer are not made use of, so use a
one-cartridge (CMY) printing mode in case of mis-alignments

perfectly?

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: HP Officejet Printer


 On 04 Jul Anish Mistry wrote:
  On Tuesday 04 July 2006 20:53, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Tuesday 04
  July 2006 20:35, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
 I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer for my
 birthday, it's an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to have
 an old HP Deskjet 842c and worked fine using apsfilter but I
 can't make this one print, I don't see any drivers for it using
 apsfilter either, is there a way to make this thing work?
   
print/hplip
  
   Installing it is easy but how do I have to do to make it work, what
   files I have to configure?  Does it work using apsfilter?
  I missed the apsfilter part.  It uses cups.  You need to have the
  printer attach as a ugen device, make the changes to devfs.rules in
  the pkg-message and add the necessary lines to rc.conf to start it
  all.

 This printer works perfectly with apsfilter. The latter does /not/ need
 cups (luckely imho) but works very well with the standard unix lpd.

 Install apsfilter with portinstall -rR apsfilter and you'll be happy.
 You can also go for cups, but make sure you read some installation papers
 on the net very carefully. Google is your friend.

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HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-04 Thread E. J. Cerejo
I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer for my birthday, it's 
an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to have an old HP Deskjet 842c and 
worked fine using apsfilter but I can't make this one print, I don't see any 
drivers for it using apsfilter either, is there a way to make this thing work?


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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-04 Thread Anish Mistry
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 20:35, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
 I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer for my
 birthday, it's an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to have an
 old HP Deskjet 842c and worked fine using apsfilter but I can't
 make this one print, I don't see any drivers for it using apsfilter
 either, is there a way to make this thing work?
print/hplip

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Re: HP Officejet Printer

2006-07-04 Thread Anish Mistry
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 20:53, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
  Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Tuesday 04 
July 2006 20:35, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
   I'm running FBSD 6.1 release and just got a new printer for my
   birthday, it's an HP Officejet 4315 all-in-one, I used to have
   an old HP Deskjet 842c and worked fine using apsfilter but I
   can't make this one print, I don't see any drivers for it using
   apsfilter either, is there a way to make this thing work?
 
  print/hplip

 Installing it is easy but how do I have to do to make it work, what
 files I have to configure?  Does it work using apsfilter?
I missed the apsfilter part.  It uses cups.  You need to have the 
printer attach as a ugen device, make the changes to devfs.rules in 
the pkg-message and add the necessary lines to rc.conf to start it 
all.

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