Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: there will no no next language. there is no need to have C follower. C is perfect Which C are you referring to here? The original KR, ANSI, or some other variant? ANSI C is different enough from KR C -- in strength of typing if nothing else -- that some would say ANSI C _is_ the next language following KR C. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: there will no no next language. there is no need to have C follower. C is perfect Which C are you referring to here? The original KR, ANSI, or some other variant? ANSI C is different enough from KR C -- in strength of typing if nothing else -- that some would say ANSI C _is_ the next language following KR C. Chat about flavours of C, better on chat@ not questi...@. ( The daemons noise was enough old FAQ ) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/x92.html Before submitting a question You can (and should) do some things yourself before asking a question on one of the mailing lists: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists Chat: Random topics (sometimes) related to FreeBSD. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not HTML, quoted-printable base 64 spam formats. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? there will no no next language. there is no need to have C follower. C is perfect ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On 11/14/10 20:44, Gary Kline wrote: TWo questions: didn't IBM create CPL? And doesn't BCPL Stand for British Computer Programming Language? (I did have both editions of the C book by Brian and DEnnis; then loaned the 2nd edition and never got ti back.) I think Dennis gives credit to BCPL Somewhere. Pretty sure those guys are all retired to somewhere *warm and sunny* by now! According to Wikipedia: The Combined Programming Language (CPL) was a computer programming language developed jointly between the Mathematical Laboratory at the University of Cambridge and the University of London Computer Unit during the 1960s hence CPL gained the nickname Cambridge Plus London Martin Richards, who invented/first implemented BCPL is technically retired but still active here in Cambridge (the UK one): http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/index.html [Note the address of Cambridge Computer Lab :-)] -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 337, Issue 1, Message: 19 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:29:10 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was _the_ new language that it was a good move. Then I realized how you could spend a lifetime learning C++ I backed off and kept it simple. Deftly avoiding the whirlpool. Delphi was the similar suck from Pascal. Hardly new. It hasn't been the Next Big Thing since the '80s. Java was the Next Big Thing in the '90s. We don't exactly have a new Next Big Thing for the '00s, from what I can see -- and maybe that's a good thing. Agile development is the Next Big Thing for development methodologies, but that's a somewhat separate issue. Whatever that means, I'll take your word for it :) Yeah, it's on amazon.com, but my bible {seriously!} is good enough. Dog-earned and coffee-stained; but it's the same as the 2nd Ed. The 2nd is ANSI-ified, IIRC. That's correct -- 2nd Ed is the ANSI C version of basically the same text. Hey, didn't know I had a rare '78 first ed; ANSI not even in the index. I confess to buying it secondhand in '94 from a likely sorry bloke, and wonder if anyone's published a diff (ono) to the 2nd ed? But my most dog-eared, tabbed and note-stuffed reference is Kernighan Plauger's Software Tools in Pascal ('81) - lovely if only for quality of the writing and typesetting. Appropriate thread for a little heresy? :) cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:32:04PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: should the one-leter name for 'c++' be 'd' or 'p'? (nobody could decide/agree, which *IS* why it is 'c++' to this day) ... D is already another programming language ... It wasn't back then :) I don't know what this P has to do with it. You have revealed yourself as a newbie :) In the beginning there was CPL, the Combined Programming Language. It was large enough to be infeasible to implement using then-current technologies, so the Bootstrap Combined Programming Language (BCPL) was invented, with the intent that the first CPL compiler would be written in BCPL. CPL never amounted to much -- I don't know whether it was ever implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
CPL never amounted to much -- I don't know whether it was ever implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? Wow!!! I had forgotten... I have done some projects using BCPL... in a mainframe (S370) running MVS in the 70's... it was lightning fast. we had made a kind of TSO (time sharing option) that runs on top of VTAM, to bring online compile and run cobol programs to the desktop... while a batch work responds in 3 hours, a TSO (written in bcpl) responds in seconds... Thanks for remember the good old days ... it is still active!!! = http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/BCPL.html Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun Nov 14 03:09:59 2010 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:00:35 -0800 From: per...@pluto.rain.com To: per...@apotheon.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?) Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:32:04PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: should the one-leter name for 'c++' be 'd' or 'p'? (nobody could decide/agree, which *IS* why it is 'c++' to this day) ... D is already another programming language ... It wasn't back then :) I don't know what this P has to do with it. You have revealed yourself as a newbie :) In the beginning there was CPL, the Combined Programming Language. It was large enough to be infeasible to implement using then-current technologies, so the Bootstrap Combined Programming Language (BCPL) was invented, with the intent that the first CPL compiler would be written in BCPL. CPL never amounted to much -- I don't know whether it was ever implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Trivia: BCPL was the _first_ programming language to use 'curly braces' to group statements. It also used '//' to indroduce a 'single-line comment'. Someone (at Bell Labs?) Ken Thompson, 1969 produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Mostly one. Dennis Ritchie, circa 1972. Brian Kernighan contributed, and Ken stuck his oar in occasionally. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:00:35AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: ... D is already another programming language ... It wasn't back then :) It is now, though, so it's a little late. So sorry. I don't know what this P has to do with it. You have revealed yourself as a newbie :) No -- I've revealed myself as someone who doesn't care nearly as much about C++ as about C. In the beginning there was CPL, the Combined Programming Language. It was large enough to be infeasible to implement using then-current technologies, so the Bootstrap Combined Programming Language (BCPL) was invented, with the intent that the first CPL compiler would be written in BCPL. CPL never amounted to much -- I don't know whether it was ever implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? . . . and there was a flamewar over it, blah blah blah, and finally it was C++. Okay. Good historical reference. Thanks. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp5bl4l2AkvF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:00:35AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 02:32:04PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: should the one-leter name for 'c++' be 'd' or 'p'? (nobody could decide/agree, which *IS* why it is 'c++' to this day) ... D is already another programming language ... It wasn't back then :) I don't know what this P has to do with it. You have revealed yourself as a newbie :) In the beginning there was CPL, the Combined Programming Language. It was large enough to be infeasible to implement using then-current technologies, so the Bootstrap Combined Programming Language (BCPL) was invented, with the intent that the first CPL compiler would be written in BCPL. CPL never amounted to much -- I don't know whether it was ever implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following. Someone (at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few researchers at Murray Hill derived C. Thus the question: should the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically) or P (next letter of BCPL)? I'd vote for E since that might have more positive connotations that D. :-) Skip F altogether. Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. TWo questions: didn't IBM create CPL? And doesn't BCPL Stand for British Computer Programming Language? (I did have both editions of the C book by Brian and DEnnis; then loaned the 2nd edition and never got ti back.) I think Dennis gives credit to BCPL Somewhere. Pretty sure those guys are all retired to somewhere *warm and sunny* by now! gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://journey.thought.org For non-text MUA's http://theopenpress.com/index.php?a=printcode=00id=88532 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:44:50PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: I'd vote for E since that might have more positive connotations that D. :-) Skip F altogether. That might be a good point. Google has taught me that single-letter names for programming languages (or anything else, apparently) are not so good for the Internet age, however. Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. Perhaps ironically, some called C++ C With Classes early on, as I recall. Meanwhile, Objective-C ended up being what C++ initially claimed it would be (a strict superset of C that provided facilities for OOP), while C++ failed to live up to its own promises while expanding into all kinds of things that were not actually desired in those early days (like a politician once elected to office). This is, of course, largely the perspective of an outsider, so take it for what it's worth. TWo questions: didn't IBM create CPL? And doesn't BCPL Stand for British Computer Programming Language? (I did have both editions of the C book by Brian and DEnnis; then loaned the 2nd edition and never got ti back.) I think Dennis gives credit to BCPL Somewhere. Pretty sure those guys are all retired to somewhere *warm and sunny* by now! The second edition is still in stores all over the place. It's the first edition that would be difficult to find these days, I think. My father tells me he has a copy, though I've never seen it; I only have the second edition. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpBjOf4A6ihn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. The inventor of C++ is Bjarne Stroustrop. I had the chance opportunity to sit down at a table with him and have a conversation prior to an SD West conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense of humor -- but even he admits C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpmezCqzSzcR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:41:41PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:44:50PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: I'd vote for E since that might have more positive connotations that D. :-) Skip F altogether. That might be a good point. Google has taught me that single-letter names for programming languages (or anything else, apparently) are not so good for the Internet age, however. I won't argue the point! but how about IEEE? I subscribed to that for years and some people noted that spoken as a word, Ieee was like the primal scream! Hm maybe the EEE language?! Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. Perhaps ironically, some called C++ C With Classes early on, as I recall. Meanwhile, Objective-C ended up being what C++ initially claimed it would be (a strict superset of C that provided facilities for OOP), while C++ failed to live up to its own promises while expanding into all kinds of things that were not actually desired in those early days (like a politician once elected to office). This is, of course, largely the perspective of an outsider, so take it for what it's worth. About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was _the_ new language that it was a good move. Then I realized how you could spend a lifetime learning C++ I backed off and kept it simple. TWo questions: didn't IBM create CPL? And doesn't BCPL Stand for British Computer Programming Language? (I did have both editions of the C book by Brian and DEnnis; then loaned the 2nd edition and never got ti back.) I think Dennis gives credit to BCPL Somewhere. Pretty sure those guys are all retired to somewhere *warm and sunny* by now! The second edition is still in stores all over the place. It's the first edition that would be difficult to find these days, I think. My father tells me he has a copy, though I've never seen it; I only have the second edition. Yeah, it's on amazon.com, but my bible {seriously!} is good enough. Dog-earned and coffee-stained; but it's the same as the 2nd Ed. The 2nd is ANSI-ified, IIRC. gary -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://journey.thought.org For non-text MUA's http://theopenpress.com/index.php?a=printcode=00id=88532 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. The inventor of C++ is Bjarne Stroustrop. I had the chance opportunity to sit down at a table with him and have a conversation prior to an SD West conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense of humor -- but even he admits C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup There's always the theory that Bjarne Stroustrup actually meant C++ as a joke: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all It's generally regarded as a hoax, and there is an actually published interview that corresponds with this time period in IEEE's Computer Magazine that reads quite differently from this. Still . . . if this is real, it would certainly explain a lot. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp1ZRsKuA2As.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. The inventor of C++ is Bjarne Stroustrop. I had the chance opportunity to sit down at a table with him and have a conversation prior to an SD West conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense of humor -- but even he admits C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup I'm sure I had my share of disasters with C++ hacking test code , but OMG, the head banging was nothing compared to heavy C coding in the early days. The number of segv's brings back evil memories:-) That, and having to take a notebook and draw out where you were [or _thought_ you were] pointing to. --Things they can't teach very well in the classroom-- that sort of stuff. Great quote! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://journey.thought.org For non-text MUA's http://theopenpress.com/index.php?a=printcode=00id=88532 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:37:15PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis what the deal was with C++; I remember him dodging the thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's about it. The inventor of C++ is Bjarne Stroustrop. I had the chance opportunity to sit down at a table with him and have a conversation prior to an SD West conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense of humor -- but even he admits C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup There's always the theory that Bjarne Stroustrup actually meant C++ as a joke: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all It's generally regarded as a hoax, and there is an actually published interview that corresponds with this time period in IEEE's Computer Magazine that reads quite differently from this. Still . . . if this is real, it would certainly explain a lot. Hmmm. I'll ck out the quote when I'm using evo. I honestly doesn't see C++ as any joke--or attempt to be. What I can't grok is the supposed re-useability. Was/Isn't a big part of C++ supposed to be that you could easily reuse part of proven, flawless code? I probably never got that far into learning the language. I have and still do edit, cut/paste, hammer and saw away at my C examples to get at functions that are reusable. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://journey.thought.org For non-text MUA's http://theopenpress.com/index.php?a=printcode=00id=88532 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was _the_ new language that it was a good move. Then I realized how you could spend a lifetime learning C++ I backed off and kept it simple. Hardly new. It hasn't been the Next Big Thing since the '80s. Java was the Next Big Thing in the '90s. We don't exactly have a new Next Big Thing for the '00s, from what I can see -- and maybe that's a good thing. Agile development is the Next Big Thing for development methodologies, but that's a somewhat separate issue. Yeah, it's on amazon.com, but my bible {seriously!} is good enough. Dog-earned and coffee-stained; but it's the same as the 2nd Ed. The 2nd is ANSI-ified, IIRC. That's correct -- 2nd Ed is the ANSI C version of basically the same text. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpr3nBarPs1j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun 14 Nov 2010 at 16:29:10 PST Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was _the_ new language that it was a good move. Then I realized how you could spend a lifetime learning C++ I backed off and kept it simple. Hardly new. It hasn't been the Next Big Thing since the '80s. Java was the Next Big Thing in the '90s. We don't exactly have a new Next Big Thing for the '00s, from what I can see -- and maybe that's a good I'd say the Next Big Thing in the '00s was Python ... or was it XML? BTW, it's now the '10s. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:54:42PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: I'd say the Next Big Thing in the '00s was Python ... or was it XML? Python hasn't been dominant enough. *Maybe* XML -- but that might be a bit of a stretch. It might be a couple years before we can identify it. Hm. Maybe JavaScript . . . ? You know, that AJAXy thing. BTW, it's now the '10s. ;-) Yeah, but there obviously hasn't been a Next Big Thing programming language for the '10s yet. Give it time. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp7rDO0QKypC.pgp Description: PGP signature