RE: How to add unused space to an existing install
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: On 7 Feb 2013, Paul Schmehl wrote: I've been doing some more research on this problem, and I've discovered that bsdlabel has a 2 to the 32nd limit on disk size. It appears I have to use gpart instead. Is that not correct? Only if your disk is larger than 2TB (or 2048GB). If you try to partition a >2TB disk with fdisk the most you can hope to access is 2TB (the rest will be forever unused). I was noticing that that the total size for all your partitions is about 744.95GB -- far short of the maximum addressable of 2TB. So you *could* gain access to more space with the tricks discussed here, but yes... You will be required to use gpart to address more than 2TB of storage on a single discrete disk. gpart creates a GPT layout versus fdisk which creates an MBR layout. GPT uses length identifiers double that of MBR so you should be able to address up to 16 million terabytes on any single discrete disk with gpart. That ought to be enough for a while (the largest storage array known to exist today is in the Petabytes ... thousands of terabytes -- nobody has yet produced a single storage device of contiguous addressable space matching-or-exceeding 1024 petabytes or 1M terabytes; so we have a ways to go before anybody reaches the limit of 2^64). To be exact: fdisk can only deal with MBR partitioning. bsdlabel only deals with FreeBSD partitions. Both align partitions to CHS values, which don't apply to disks made in the last couple of decades. This means that partitions created by these two tools will almost certainly be misaligned when created on an Advanced Format (4K) hard drive or an SSD. gpart(8) can do GPT *and* MBR *and* bsdlabel and other partition schemes. It does all the things that fdisk and bsdlabel do, and more. For examples of creating both GPT and MBR/bsdlabel partitioning with gpart: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: How to add unused space to an existing install
On 7 Feb 2013, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > --On February 6, 2013 5:21:39 PM -0600 dte...@freebsd.org wrote: > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > >> questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:59 AM > >> To: FreeBSD Questions List > >> Subject: How to add unused space to an existing install > >> > >> I have a FreeBSD 8.3 RELEASE box that we recently discovered only has > >> part of the "disk" being used. This box has four 1TB drives in RAID 5, > >> and df only shows 500MB of disk available. > >> > >> fdisk shows this: > >> # fdisk -p > >> # /dev/mfid0 > >> g c364602 h255 s63 > >> p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 > >> a 1 > >> > >> When I run the fdisk editor in sysinstall I see this: > >> > >> Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition > >> Editor > >> DISK Geometry: 364602 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 5857331130 sectors > >> (2860024MB) > >> > >> Offset Size(ST)End Name PType Desc Subtype > >> Flags > >> > >> 0 63 62- 12 unused0 > >> 63 1562363771 1562363833 mfid0s1 8freebsd 165 > >> 1562363834 4294981702 5857345535- 12 unused0 > >> > >> I want to capture all that unused space and add it to the server. > >> > >> fstab has this: > >> # cat /etc/fstab > >> # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > >> Pass# > >> /dev/mfid0s1bnoneswapsw 0 > >> 0 > >> /dev/mfid0s1a/ ufs rw 1 > >> 1 > >> /dev/mfid0s1e/home ufs rw 2 > >> 2 > >> /dev/mfid0s1d/tmpufs rw 2 > >> 2 > >> /dev/mfid0s1f/usrufs rw 2 > >> 2 > >> /dev/mfid0s1g/varufs rw 2 > >> 2 > >> /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > >> > >> When I try to create a new slice using fdisk, it doesn't seem to work. > > > > Did you try something like: > > > > echo "p 2 165 * *" | sudo fdisk -f- /dev/mfid0 > > > > ?? > > Thank you for your detailed and informative answer. > > I did not. I'm a neophyte in the disk world. I've always used sysinstall > to setup partitions and mount points. > > > > > Afterward "fdisk -p" should show something like... > > > ># /dev/mfid0 > > g c364602 h255 s63 > > p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 > > p 2 0xa5 > > a 1 > > > > And then you'll have /dev/mfid0s2 which you can do-with what you like > > (directly newfs the slice or create BSD partitions underneath that to > > further sub-divide into as many as 8 smaller units, /dev/mfid0s2[a-h]). > > > > I've been doing some more research on this problem, and I've discovered > that bsdlabel has a 2 to the 32nd limit on disk size. It appears I have to > use gpart instead. Is that not correct? > Only if your disk is larger than 2TB (or 2048GB). If you try to partition a >2TB disk with fdisk the most you can hope to access is 2TB (the rest will be forever unused). I was noticing that that the total size for all your partitions is about 744.95GB -- far short of the maximum addressable of 2TB. So you *could* gain access to more space with the tricks discussed here, but yes... You will be required to use gpart to address more than 2TB of storage on a single discrete disk. gpart creates a GPT layout versus fdisk which creates an MBR layout. GPT uses length identifiers double that of MBR so you should be able to address up to 16 million terabytes on any single discrete disk with gpart. That ought to be enough for a while (the largest storage array known to exist today is in the Petabytes ... thousands of terabytes -- nobody has yet produced a single storage device of contiguous addressable space matching-or-exceeding 1024 petabytes or 1M terabytes; so we have a ways to go before anybody reaches the limit of 2^64). > > > >> If I move to the label editor, I get this: > >> > >> FreeBSD Disklabel Editor > >> > >> Disk
RE: How to add unused space to an existing install
--On February 6, 2013 5:21:39 PM -0600 dte...@freebsd.org wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:59 AM To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: How to add unused space to an existing install I have a FreeBSD 8.3 RELEASE box that we recently discovered only has part of the "disk" being used. This box has four 1TB drives in RAID 5, and df only shows 500MB of disk available. fdisk shows this: # fdisk -p # /dev/mfid0 g c364602 h255 s63 p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 a 1 When I run the fdisk editor in sysinstall I see this: Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 364602 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 5857331130 sectors (2860024MB) Offset Size(ST)End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62- 12 unused0 63 1562363771 1562363833 mfid0s1 8freebsd 165 1562363834 4294981702 5857345535- 12 unused0 I want to capture all that unused space and add it to the server. fstab has this: # cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/mfid0s1b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/mfid0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mfid0s1e /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s1d /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s1g /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 When I try to create a new slice using fdisk, it doesn't seem to work. Did you try something like: echo "p 2 165 * *" | sudo fdisk -f- /dev/mfid0 ?? Thank you for your detailed and informative answer. I did not. I'm a neophyte in the disk world. I've always used sysinstall to setup partitions and mount points. Afterward "fdisk -p" should show something like... # /dev/mfid0 g c364602 h255 s63 p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 p 2 0xa5 a 1 And then you'll have /dev/mfid0s2 which you can do-with what you like (directly newfs the slice or create BSD partitions underneath that to further sub-divide into as many as 8 smaller units, /dev/mfid0s2[a-h]). I've been doing some more research on this problem, and I've discovered that bsdlabel has a 2 to the 32nd limit on disk size. It appears I have to use gpart instead. Is that not correct? If I move to the label editor, I get this: FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs - - - - mfid0s1a 2000MB * mfid0s1d65536MB * mfid0s1e 4096MB * mfid0s1b swap65536MB SWAP mfid0s1f10240MB * mfid0s1g 601GB * As you can see mfid0s1g is 601GB, and according to fstab that's /var. Yet df -h shows: # df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mfid0s1a1.9G726M1.0G41%/ devfs1.0k1.0k 0B 100%/dev /dev/mfid0s1e3.9G 38M3.5G 1%/home /dev/mfid0s1d 62G6.6M 57G 0%/tmp /dev/mfid0s1f9.7G7.5G1.4G84%/usr /dev/mfid0s1g582G 39G496G 7%/var So apparently I'm not creating this new slice? It should be /dev/mfid0s1h, correct? Let's not confuse slices (DOS partitions) with disklabels (BSD partitions). OK. I've clearly done that. As I say, I'm a neophyte in the disk geometry and configuration field. DOS partitions are (maximum 4 per disk): mfid0s1 mfid0s2 mfid0s3 mfid0s4 (according to your "fdisk -p" output, you're mfid0 disk is currently only using mfid0s1) BSD partitions are (maximum 8 per "slice" aka DOS partition): mfid0s1a mfid0s1b mfid0s1c mfid0s1d mfid0s1e mfid0s1f mfid0s1g mfid0s1h (according to your sysinstall output, you're mfid0s1 slice has 5 BSD partitions -- a, e, d, f, and g) I see. How to I "recapture" the remaining 2+TB of space that's not being used? The easiest way to use your extra space is to not adjust one of those 5 BSD partitions, but instead create a new DOS partition (mfid0s2 as previously discussed above). However, if you *really* want to "grow" an existing BSD partition, this can be done (very carefully). I'm all for taking the easy way out. :-) First, you'll want to save the output of "disklabel -r mfid0s1" to a text file. Next, you'll have to re-fdisk mfid0 so that the first slice covers the enti
RE: How to add unused space to an existing install
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:59 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions List > Subject: How to add unused space to an existing install > > I have a FreeBSD 8.3 RELEASE box that we recently discovered only has part > of the "disk" being used. This box has four 1TB drives in RAID 5, and df > only shows 500MB of disk available. > > fdisk shows this: > # fdisk -p > # /dev/mfid0 > g c364602 h255 s63 > p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 > a 1 > > When I run the fdisk editor in sysinstall I see this: > > Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition > Editor > DISK Geometry: 364602 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 5857331130 sectors > (2860024MB) > > Offset Size(ST)End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 63 62- 12 unused0 > 63 1562363771 1562363833 mfid0s1 8freebsd 165 > 1562363834 4294981702 5857345535- 12 unused0 > > I want to capture all that unused space and add it to the server. > > fstab has this: > # cat /etc/fstab > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > Pass# > /dev/mfid0s1b noneswapsw 0 0 > /dev/mfid0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/mfid0s1e /home ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mfid0s1d /tmpufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mfid0s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mfid0s1g /varufs rw 2 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > When I try to create a new slice using fdisk, it doesn't seem to work. Did you try something like: echo "p 2 165 * *" | sudo fdisk -f- /dev/mfid0 ?? Afterward "fdisk -p" should show something like... # /dev/mfid0 g c364602 h255 s63 p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 p 2 0xa5 a 1 And then you'll have /dev/mfid0s2 which you can do-with what you like (directly newfs the slice or create BSD partitions underneath that to further sub-divide into as many as 8 smaller units, /dev/mfid0s2[a-h]). > If I move to the label editor, I get this: > > FreeBSD Disklabel Editor > > Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) > > Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs > - - - - > mfid0s1a 2000MB * > mfid0s1d65536MB * > mfid0s1e 4096MB * > mfid0s1b swap65536MB SWAP > mfid0s1f10240MB * > mfid0s1g 601GB * > > As you can see mfid0s1g is 601GB, and according to fstab that's /var. > > Yet df -h shows: > > # df -h > Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/mfid0s1a1.9G726M1.0G41%/ > devfs1.0k1.0k 0B 100%/dev > /dev/mfid0s1e3.9G 38M3.5G 1%/home > /dev/mfid0s1d 62G6.6M 57G 0%/tmp > /dev/mfid0s1f9.7G7.5G1.4G84%/usr > /dev/mfid0s1g582G 39G496G 7%/var > > So apparently I'm not creating this new slice? It should be /dev/mfid0s1h, > correct? > Let's not confuse slices (DOS partitions) with disklabels (BSD partitions). DOS partitions are (maximum 4 per disk): mfid0s1 mfid0s2 mfid0s3 mfid0s4 (according to your "fdisk -p" output, you're mfid0 disk is currently only using mfid0s1) BSD partitions are (maximum 8 per "slice" aka DOS partition): mfid0s1a mfid0s1b mfid0s1c mfid0s1d mfid0s1e mfid0s1f mfid0s1g mfid0s1h (according to your sysinstall output, you're mfid0s1 slice has 5 BSD partitions -- a, e, d, f, and g) > How to I "recapture" the remaining 2+TB of space that's not being used? > The easiest way to use your extra space is to not adjust one of those 5 BSD partitions, but instead create a new DOS partition (mfid0s2 as previously discussed above). However, if you *really* want to "grow" an existing BSD partition, this can be done (very carefully). First, you'll want to save the output of "disklabel -r mfid0s1" to a text file. Next, you'll have to re-fdisk mfid0 so that the first slice covers the entire disk. Of course, re-mastering the slices does not affect the data, but it _will_ wipe out the BSD partition map (the disklabels; in other words, after using fdisk to adjust the slice size of the first DOS partition, "disklabel -r mfid0s1" will no
Re: How to add unused space to an existing install
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:58:56 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: When I try to create a new slice using fdisk, it doesn't seem to work. If I move to the label editor, I get this: FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs - - - - mfid0s1a 2000MB * mfid0s1d65536MB * mfid0s1e 4096MB * mfid0s1b swap65536MB SWAP mfid0s1f10240MB * mfid0s1g 601GB * As you can see mfid0s1g is 601GB, and according to fstab that's /var. Yet df -h shows: # df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mfid0s1a1.9G726M1.0G41%/ devfs1.0k1.0k 0B 100%/dev /dev/mfid0s1e3.9G 38M3.5G 1%/home /dev/mfid0s1d 62G6.6M 57G 0%/tmp /dev/mfid0s1f9.7G7.5G1.4G84%/usr /dev/mfid0s1g582G 39G496G 7%/var So apparently I'm not creating this new slice? It should be /dev/mfid0s1h, correct? If you're creating a new slice, that would be mfid0s2, because mfid0s1 is the 1st slice ("DOS primary partition") carrying the partitions a, swap, d, e, f, g. If I remember correctly, h is the last partition letter that can be assigned, so this one should be available. Problem: The 1st slice mfid0s1 is already of fixed size, so you cannot add a new partition here without growint that slice first. Attention, that step isn't free of danger and should be done with a backup at hand, just in case, and because you _always_ need a backup. :-) This problem is not a problem if you create a 2nd slice mfid0s2 to use it separately. If you can _really_ create mfid0s2 as a slice, you only need to format it, e. g. "newfs -U /dev/mfid0s2" which creates mfid0s2c which in turn is called mfid0s2). You can then assign that new partition (the one covering the whole slice) to a new mountpoint, e. g. /data, /stuff or whatever you want. Yes, but creating FreeBSD partitions inside that slice allows them to be aligned. That may not be a problem on these 1T drives, some 1T drives have 512-byte blocks. Or the slow misaligned speed might be disguised by the slow RAID5 speed... fdisk and bsdlabel always align to fictional CHS values. gpart can align FreeBSD partitions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to add unused space to an existing install
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:58:56 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > When I try to create a new slice using fdisk, it doesn't seem to work. If > I move to the label editor, I get this: > > FreeBSD Disklabel Editor > > Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) > > Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs > - - - - > mfid0s1a 2000MB * > mfid0s1d65536MB * > mfid0s1e 4096MB * > mfid0s1b swap65536MB SWAP > mfid0s1f10240MB * > mfid0s1g 601GB * > > As you can see mfid0s1g is 601GB, and according to fstab that's /var. > > Yet df -h shows: > > # df -h > Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/mfid0s1a1.9G726M1.0G41%/ > devfs1.0k1.0k 0B 100%/dev > /dev/mfid0s1e3.9G 38M3.5G 1%/home > /dev/mfid0s1d 62G6.6M 57G 0%/tmp > /dev/mfid0s1f9.7G7.5G1.4G84%/usr > /dev/mfid0s1g582G 39G496G 7%/var > > So apparently I'm not creating this new slice? It should be /dev/mfid0s1h, > correct? If you're creating a new slice, that would be mfid0s2, because mfid0s1 is the 1st slice ("DOS primary partition") carrying the partitions a, swap, d, e, f, g. If I remember correctly, h is the last partition letter that can be assigned, so this one should be available. Problem: The 1st slice mfid0s1 is already of fixed size, so you cannot add a new partition here without growint that slice first. Attention, that step isn't free of danger and should be done with a backup at hand, just in case, and because you _always_ need a backup. :-) This problem is not a problem if you create a 2nd slice mfid0s2 to use it separately. If you can _really_ create mfid0s2 as a slice, you only need to format it, e. g. "newfs -U /dev/mfid0s2" which creates mfid0s2c which in turn is called mfid0s2). You can then assign that new partition (the one covering the whole slice) to a new mountpoint, e. g. /data, /stuff or whatever you want. There are also means to "merge" this partition into some mountpoint that is already occupied, e. g. /home, maybe via "mount -o union" including all possibly negative consequences). > How to I "recapture" the remaining 2+TB of space that's not being used? Without wiping the whole disk(s)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
How to add unused space to an existing install
I have a FreeBSD 8.3 RELEASE box that we recently discovered only has part of the "disk" being used. This box has four 1TB drives in RAID 5, and df only shows 500MB of disk available. fdisk shows this: # fdisk -p # /dev/mfid0 g c364602 h255 s63 p 1 0xa5 63 1562363771 a 1 When I run the fdisk editor in sysinstall I see this: Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 364602 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 5857331130 sectors (2860024MB) Offset Size(ST)End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62- 12 unused0 63 1562363771 1562363833 mfid0s1 8freebsd 165 1562363834 4294981702 5857345535- 12 unused0 I want to capture all that unused space and add it to the server. fstab has this: # cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# /dev/mfid0s1b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/mfid0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mfid0s1e /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s1d /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s1g /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 When I try to create a new slice using fdisk, it doesn't seem to work. If I move to the label editor, I get this: FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs - - - - mfid0s1a 2000MB * mfid0s1d65536MB * mfid0s1e 4096MB * mfid0s1b swap65536MB SWAP mfid0s1f10240MB * mfid0s1g 601GB * As you can see mfid0s1g is 601GB, and according to fstab that's /var. Yet df -h shows: # df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mfid0s1a1.9G726M1.0G41%/ devfs1.0k1.0k 0B 100%/dev /dev/mfid0s1e3.9G 38M3.5G 1%/home /dev/mfid0s1d 62G6.6M 57G 0%/tmp /dev/mfid0s1f9.7G7.5G1.4G84%/usr /dev/mfid0s1g582G 39G496G 7%/var So apparently I'm not creating this new slice? It should be /dev/mfid0s1h, correct? How to I "recapture" the remaining 2+TB of space that's not being used? -- Paul Schmehl (pa...@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/infosecurity/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"