Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Matthew Graybosch wrote: FreeBSD has nothing whatsoever to do with Ahriman, Hades, Lucifer Son of Morning, Nyarlathotep the Crawling Chaos, Duke Arioch of the Seven Darks, or even big ol' Satan himself. you can never be sure about that... We just use the red cartoon imp because it's a cute mascot; his name is Beastie, by the way. The pitchfork represents the fork() system call. Beastie: cute version of The Beast? For sure: A clerver satanist or even Satan himself would use FBSD ;) Ciao, Mark Weinem ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
On Sunday 27 July 2003 06:49 am, Mark Weinem wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Matthew Graybosch wrote: FreeBSD has nothing whatsoever to do with Ahriman, Hades, Lucifer Son of Morning, Nyarlathotep the Crawling Chaos, Duke Arioch of the Seven Darks, or even big ol' Satan himself. you can never be sure about that... Well, I just had a word with my mistress Xiombarg, who says that Arioch prefers unpatched installations of Windows NT 4.0. I won't speak for the others, though I have it on good authority that Satan is computer illiterate and lets his lover Saddam Hussein handle that stuff. Yes, that as all a joke. ^..^ Beastie: cute version of The Beast? Or what you get if you say BSD really fast. For sure: A clerver satanist or even Satan himself would use FBSD Well, I have it on decent authority (a gent named Malaclypse the Youngest) that most of the US Government is in the half of left-hand path satanists, and it's still mostly a Windows shop. Oh well, government intelligence and all that. -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net I am become root, shatterer of kernels. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Rissland, Thorsten wrote: ...i'm a christian. I hope this helps, freebsd is really a great operating system and I hope you wont let religion or politics stop you from using it. I thought this was a joke the first time I read it.. People are really this stupid? Wow. I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. Your comment is insulting, unfair, hostile to encouraging the spread of BSD, and hostile to those who both happen to be Christian and need to use BSD. (note: I am atheist, and would say the same if you had labeled any religion - Muslim, Hindi, Marxism, etc, as stupid. ) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Your comment is insulting, unfair, hostile to encouraging the spread of BSD, and hostile to those who both happen to be Christian and need to use BSD. (note: I am atheist, and would say the same if you had labeled any religion - Muslim, Hindi, Marxism, etc, as stupid. ) Please let this thread die. I never said any religion was stupid. I appologized to the parties involved. For the love of god (heh) die thread die! --Charlie ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Rissland, Thorsten wrote: ...i'm a christian. Why is the Logo of FreeBSD an devil What have an oparating System to do with the devil Of course, there is something like daemon's (under Windows called services) but this is not the meaning of deamon!!! I think the meaning of daemon is d=disk a=and e=? (i don't know) mon=monotoring So what has this to with an Deamon??? Please answer me. This is explained at the FreeBSD website at http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html The symbolic refers to daemon, not deamon, and it has nothing to do with satan, the devil, evil powers or anything even remotely religious. From the FreeBSD website: `Daemon'' is actually a much older form of ``demon''; daemons have no particular bias towards good or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept of a ``personal daemon'' was similar to the modern concept of a ``guardian angel'' --- ``eudaemonia'' is the state of being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. I hope this helps, freebsd is really a great operating system and I hope you wont let religion or politics stop you from using it. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
...i'm a christian. Why is the Logo of FreeBSD an devil What have an oparating System to do with the devil Of course, there is something like daemon's (under Windows called services) but this is not the meaning of deamon!!! I think the meaning of daemon is d=disk a=and e=? (i don't know) mon=monotoring DiskAndExecuteMONitor :) relax, Rissland So what has this to with an Deamon??? Please answer me. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Rissland, Thorsten wrote: ...i'm a christian. I hope this helps, freebsd is really a great operating system and I hope you wont let religion or politics stop you from using it. I thought this was a joke the first time I read it.. People are really this stupid? Wow. I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
At 2003-07-25T14:33:09Z, Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. On the behalf of Christian FreeBSD users everywhere: screw you. -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: I want using FreeBSD, but...
I am a Christian too. I go to church in the DFW area, and have friends in the Internet business that are also Christians using FreeBSD for their web servers, mail servers, etc. Nothing in the Bible says you cannot use FreeBSD. I use it for a web server and firewall, and I never see the Daemon image. Do you plan to look at the little Daemon logo every time you use your computer? God gave you a brain to reason and think with, and to acquire knowledge with. These types of statements are based on pure ignorance and potentially give Christians a bad name. (As seen in previous responses) The only caveat I can think of is in 1st Corinthians 10:31-33 where it says Do not cause anyone to stumble... Again, I do not display the little Daemon logo anywhere, so I think I'm OK. So in the future, I hope any Christian that wishes to use a far superior OS for their server / workstation needs, will consider FreeBSD and get a glimpse of this email. If questions remain, pray about your issue. Any responses, flames, etc can be sent to me directly, please do not clutter this list with topic any longer. Thanks, Ron Clark mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2003-07-25T14:33:09Z, Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. On the behalf of Christian FreeBSD users everywhere: screw you. Isn't that a sin, to screw (anything other than screws)? Is it ok to be a Christian and encourage sin? :-) Also... I've always thought Christian people should be nice to all people, even those who don't deserve it (and hence deserve it even more). ;-) Have a nice day/night! (And now I hope no one will take these small jokes to build a giant flame war.) Best regards, Paul ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
At 2003-07-25T14:48:36Z, Paul Everlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't that a sin, to screw (anything other than screws)? Is it ok to be a Christian and encourage sin? :-) I was politely requesting that the poster contort himself uncomfortably. Any implied meaning is in the mind of the reader. ;-) Also... I've always thought Christian people should be nice to all people, even those who don't deserve it (and hence deserve it even more). ;-) Call me a giant sack of conflicting impulses. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
From: Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: I want using FreeBSD, but... --- I suppose I might be offended by the comment, but: On the behalf of Christian FreeBSD users everywhere: screw you. That's not *our* job... Kevin Kinsey Daleco, S.P. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a Christian too. I go to church in the DFW area, and have friends in the Internet business that are also Christians using FreeBSD for their web servers, mail servers, etc. Nothing in the Bible says you cannot use FreeBSD. When the bible was written I don't think anyone had heard about servers and FreeBSD, hence there's nothing there to say you should not use FreeBSD. :-) The only caveat I can think of is in 1st Corinthians 10:31-33 where it says Do not cause anyone to stumble... Again, I do not display the little Daemon logo anywhere, so I think I'm OK. You're OK. If I display it when ever I can I'm not? :-) Just had to write a response to your e-mail, and I hope there's no hard feelings. I whish you a wonderful day/night! Best regards, Paul ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
At 2003-07-25T14:53:36Z, Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's not *our* job... LOL! Good point. :) -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
At 2003-07-25T14:33:09Z, Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. On the behalf of Christian FreeBSD users everywhere: screw you. Kirk Strauser That is at least as ignorant and worthless a comment as the original poster who at least was just asking a question even if it was coming from ignorance and possibly a limited outlook. Worse, it is abusive and the original poster was not that. Why don't you grow up? By the way, I wear my T-shirt with the FreeBSD daemon to church occasionally when we are working on something or having meetings. No one even seems to notice or care. A few know the origin of the logo, but most do not. jerry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
At 2003-07-25T15:05:17Z, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] write= s: That is at least as ignorant and worthless a comment as the original poster who at least was just asking a question... I don't follow. ...even if it was coming from ignorance and possibly a limited outlook. Worse, it is abusive and the original poster was not that. The person who replied, however, *was* being abusive. I was clearly replying to them, not the original poster. I am not sure which person is which - the include marks and signatures are not always clear or relate well. But, I was responding to the comment suggesting inserting a mechanical device inscribed with a circular inclined plane. jerry Why don't you grow up? I'm at a loss. Someone implied that Christianity =3D=3D stupidity, and I expressed my displeasure at that notion. Apparently you agree with me. Do you only disagree, then, with my method of expressions? By the way, I wear my T-shirt with the FreeBSD daemon to church occasionally when we are working on something or having meetings. No one even seems to notice or care. A few know the origin of the logo, but most do not. I'm a new resident in a pretty small town. I'm sure that anybody who asked me about such a shirt would be satisfied with the answer, but more than a few tongues would be wagging in the mean time. Some would be entertained in my area too. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
At 11:05 AM 7/25/2003, Jerry McAllister wrote: At 2003-07-25T14:33:09Z, Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. On the behalf of Christian FreeBSD users everywhere: screw you. Kirk Strauser That is at least as ignorant and worthless a comment as the original poster who at least was just asking a question even if it was coming from ignorance and possibly a limited outlook. Worse, it is abusive and the original poster was not that. Why don't you grow up? By the way, I wear my T-shirt with the FreeBSD daemon to church occasionally when we are working on something or having meetings. No one even seems to notice or care. A few know the origin of the logo, but most do not. What about the first follow-up poster who called the Christian stupid? Funny how tolerance is such a one-way street. -- Bob ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Le Vendredi, 25 juil 2003, à 17:18 Europe/Zurich, Bob Collins a écrit : At 11:05 AM 7/25/2003, Jerry McAllister wrote: At 2003-07-25T14:33:09Z, Charlie Schluting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. On the behalf of Christian FreeBSD users everywhere: screw you. Kirk Strauser That is at least as ignorant and worthless a comment as the original poster who at least was just asking a question even if it was coming from ignorance and possibly a limited outlook. Worse, it is abusive and the original poster was not that. Why don't you grow up? By the way, I wear my T-shirt with the FreeBSD daemon to church occasionally when we are working on something or having meetings. No one even seems to notice or care. A few know the origin of the logo, but most do not. What about the first follow-up poster who called the Christian stupid? Funny how tolerance is such a one-way street. -- Bob And funny how that kind of argument served to start of the bloodiest war of religion in the past. With folks like you guys, we'll sure have others in the future... Now can we talk about FreeBSD here? Raphael ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
On Friday 25 July 2003 10:33 am, Charlie Schluting wrote: I thought this was a joke the first time I read it.. People are really this stupid? Wow. I guess ...i'm a christian speaks for itself. Never blame on stupidity something that can be attributed to ignorance. That said, it *is* a bit rude to bash other people's beliefs in public. -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net I am become root, shatterer of kernels. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Why is the Logo of FreeBSD an devil What have an oparating System to do with the devil Of course, there is something like daemon's (under Windows called services) but this is not the meaning of deamon!!! I think the meaning of daemon is d=disk a=and e=? (i don't know) mon=monotoring It is a play on words. the letters in daemon don't stand for anything. It's basically because the meaning of the word daemon isn't necessarily bad, but it means some kind of spirit that does things but can't be seen. The background processes that service network requests, etc... are called daemons because they sit quietly in the background doing things but can't be seen (unless looked for). FreeBSD uses the demon as a logo as a pun on the word daemon. It has no religious meaning at all, and should be taken for what it is, just a pun. Ken ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:57:12PM +0200, Paul Everlund wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing in the Bible says you cannot use FreeBSD. When the bible was written I don't think anyone had heard about servers and FreeBSD, hence there's nothing there to say you should not use FreeBSD. :-) What about the bit where it says thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's OS? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
