Re: Installing problems. No Desktop.

2004-06-15 Thread Hendrik Hasenbein
Lloyd Hayes wrote:
I installed FreeBSD on an older Gateway laptop. 128 MB/ 233 MHz/ 800x600 
screen/ 6 GB Hard driver with 4 GB on the hard drive set aside for 
FreeBSD. Windows 98 SE is installed in the other 2 GB. FreeBSD appears 
to be installed correctly, but I cannot  get the KDE desktop to come up. 
In fact, all I can get is the command line. I can pull up the 
installation files. But that is pretty much it. I am very familiar with 
DOS commands, but UNIX commands appears to be nothing like them, and I 
don't know any UNIX commands. It seems that I can not pull up even the 
directory.
The commands are very similar at the command line, but you invoke a 
directory listing with 'ls' instead of 'dir'. Copy and move just lost 
their vocals ('cp', 'mv').

I have managed to get my mail saying that I have incomplete 
modifications from trying to change things. I get to a point where I 
can't even figure our how to close the program, so I hit the power power 
which closes things down.
But this is frustrating, and makes a good case for why people are 
staying with Windows. In going from the old C-64/C-128 to Apple, to IBM, 
to a CP/M operating system, the system commands reminded very much the 
same. Even in going from the old GEOS (On both the C-64/C-128 or the PC) 
to them MAC, to Windows, things stayed very close to the same between 
them. Here everything is completely different. It's like going from 
English to being told to fill out a form in Chinese without ever having 
seen or heard the language.
Your situation is more like being stuck in MSDOS 6.0 before starting 
Windows 3.1(1). You have to start up the X-Windows system.

'XFree86 -configure' generates you a template config for your system.
After you have moved your config to /etc/X11 you should be able to fire 
up kde by entering 'kdm'.

If all is successful you can enter the command in /etc/ttys for 
automatic startup. There is a template line for xdm.

I've installed the FreeBSD software 4 times coming to the same end. How 
do I get from this Chinese line item stuff to an environment that I can 
deal with? KDE seems to be installed, but is not coming up by default, 
nor by any other way or reason.

I've tried several things, but I tried something to manually bring up 
KDE the other day by switching to it's directory. Whatever I was doing 
was something out of the FreeBSD Handbook. I was logged in as 'root'. I 
got errors saying that I did not have permission. This puzzled me. I 
didn't think this was supposed to happen while logged in as root.
It is possible to restrict even root for security reasons.
I have version 5.2.1 which I had downloaded a couple of weeks ago.
Hendrik
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Installing problems. No Desktop.

2004-06-14 Thread Lloyd Hayes
I installed FreeBSD on an older Gateway laptop. 128 MB/ 233 MHz/ 800x600 
screen/ 6 GB Hard driver with 4 GB on the hard drive set aside for 
FreeBSD. Windows 98 SE is installed in the other 2 GB. FreeBSD appears 
to be installed correctly, but I cannot  get the KDE desktop to come up. 
In fact, all I can get is the command line. I can pull up the 
installation files. But that is pretty much it. I am very familiar with 
DOS commands, but UNIX commands appears to be nothing like them, and I 
don't know any UNIX commands. It seems that I can not pull up even the 
directory. I have managed to get my mail saying that I have incomplete 
modifications from trying to change things. I get to a point where I 
can't even figure our how to close the program, so I hit the power power 
which closes things down.

But this is frustrating, and makes a good case for why people are 
staying with Windows. In going from the old C-64/C-128 to Apple, to IBM, 
to a CP/M operating system, the system commands reminded very much the 
same. Even in going from the old GEOS (On both the C-64/C-128 or the PC) 
to them MAC, to Windows, things stayed very close to the same between 
them. Here everything is completely different. It's like going from 
English to being told to fill out a form in Chinese without ever having 
seen or heard the language.

I've installed the FreeBSD software 4 times coming to the same end. How 
do I get from this Chinese line item stuff to an environment that I can 
deal with? KDE seems to be installed, but is not coming up by default, 
nor by any other way or reason.

I've tried several things, but I tried something to manually bring up 
KDE the other day by switching to it's directory. Whatever I was doing 
was something out of the FreeBSD Handbook. I was logged in as 'root'. I 
got errors saying that I did not have permission. This puzzled me. I 
didn't think this was supposed to happen while logged in as root.

I have version 5.2.1 which I had downloaded a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: Installing problems. No Desktop.

2004-06-14 Thread LW Ellis
Just went thru this myself.
Have you sent up the Xserver.
KDE won't run with out it.
Chapter 5 of teh handbook cover this,
and you can do it thru
stand/sysinstall

Leon

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Subject: Installing problems. No Desktop.


 I installed FreeBSD on an older Gateway laptop. 128 MB/ 233 MHz/ 800x600
 screen/ 6 GB Hard driver with 4 GB on the hard drive set aside for
 FreeBSD. Windows 98 SE is installed in the other 2 GB. FreeBSD appears
 to be installed correctly, but I cannot  get the KDE desktop to come up.
 In fact, all I can get is the command line. I can pull up the
 installation files. But that is pretty much it. I am very familiar with
 DOS commands, but UNIX commands appears to be nothing like them, and I
 don't know any UNIX commands. It seems that I can not pull up even the
 directory. I have managed to get my mail saying that I have incomplete
 modifications from trying to change things. I get to a point where I
 can't even figure our how to close the program, so I hit the power power
 which closes things down.

 But this is frustrating, and makes a good case for why people are
 staying with Windows. In going from the old C-64/C-128 to Apple, to IBM,
 to a CP/M operating system, the system commands reminded very much the
 same. Even in going from the old GEOS (On both the C-64/C-128 or the PC)
 to them MAC, to Windows, things stayed very close to the same between
 them. Here everything is completely different. It's like going from
 English to being told to fill out a form in Chinese without ever having
 seen or heard the language.

 I've installed the FreeBSD software 4 times coming to the same end. How
 do I get from this Chinese line item stuff to an environment that I can
 deal with? KDE seems to be installed, but is not coming up by default,
 nor by any other way or reason.

 I've tried several things, but I tried something to manually bring up
 KDE the other day by switching to it's directory. Whatever I was doing
 was something out of the FreeBSD Handbook. I was logged in as 'root'. I
 got errors saying that I did not have permission. This puzzled me. I
 didn't think this was supposed to happen while logged in as root.

 I have version 5.2.1 which I had downloaded a couple of weeks ago.

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