Iomega REV Drive

2009-11-16 Thread Dean Weimer
I have recently found a used Iomega REV drive for a cheap price, and thought it 
might work as a good low cost backup solution on my home FreeBSD server.  
However, I haven't been able to figure out how to make it work with FreeBSD.  
FreeBSD finds it as a CDROM drive, has anyone managed to make one of these 
drives work on FreeBSD?  This is the 36G IDE version of the drive, I picked the 
drive up cheap, along with one used disk, if it doesn't work it's no big loss.  
I have tried searching the lists, and have found people asking questions in the 
past, but never found an answer to them.

The dmesg output for the drive shows it as:
acd0: CDROM  at ata0-slave UDMA66

Thanks,
 Dean Weimer
 Network Administrator
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Iomega REV drive support on freebsd.

2006-03-08 Thread Alvaro Rosales
Hi guys, Have any of you successfullly set up and configured an Iomega Rev
drive on FreebSD?. Is there support for it?.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Re: Contradicting the answer to Re: Answering my own question Re: Iomega REV drive, FreeBSD 4.11

2005-08-18 Thread Bob Johnson
On 8/17/05, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:21:55AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron
> collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> > I'm answering my own question on the mailing list, just to get what I
> found
> > into the archives in case anyone else has this question.
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:33:47PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron
> collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.11.  I last updated from STABLE in January:
> > > 
> > > FreeBSD bogodyn.org 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 22
> 13:10:32 MST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/users2/obj/usr/src/sys/BOGODYN 
> i386
> > > 
> > > I just purchased an external SCSI Iomga REV 35MB removable medium drive.
>  
> > > 
> > [...]
> > > When I attach the device and camcontrol rescan all, I get this in the 
> > > /var/log/messages:
> > > 
> > > Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1:  Removable CD-ROM
> SCSI-4 
> > > device 
> > [...]
> > > That is, the drive is detected, but as a removable CDROM, 
> > 
> > This is not peculiar to BSD.  Low-level SCSI utilities in the SCSI
> controller
> > at boot time also fail to recognize this thing as a disk drive, and even 
> > on Windows it shows up as a CD-ROM.  The only way to write data to it is
> to
> > use a windows-only driver.  And since it doesn't use an ISO-9660 file
> system,
> > the only way to read data off of it is with a windows-only driver, too. 
> So
[...]
> Which leads to a final question:  Is there any work being done on
> read/write
> support for UDF filesystems?  Might 6.0 get this capability?
> 

Someone referred to UDF in 6.0 as if it were read/write, but I don't
see any evidence of that in the man page (it doesn't say it isn't
read/write, either).  If I have time this evening I will try to
investigate that.

ports/sysutils/udfclient might support that drive in write mode.  If
so, it will give you some ability to do useful things with it,
although it doesn't appear that it will make it look like a mountable
filesystem.

- Bob
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Contradicting the answer to Re: Answering my own question Re: Iomega REV drive, FreeBSD 4.11

2005-08-17 Thread Tom Russo
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:21:55AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> I'm answering my own question on the mailing list, just to get what I found
> into the archives in case anyone else has this question.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:33:47PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
> collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> > I'm running FreeBSD 4.11.  I last updated from STABLE in January:
> > 
> > FreeBSD bogodyn.org 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 22 13:10:32 
> > MST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/users2/obj/usr/src/sys/BOGODYN  i386
> > 
> > I just purchased an external SCSI Iomga REV 35MB removable medium drive.  
> > 
> [...]
> > When I attach the device and camcontrol rescan all, I get this in the 
> > /var/log/messages:
> > 
> > Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1:  Removable CD-ROM 
> > SCSI-4 
> > device 
> [...]
> > That is, the drive is detected, but as a removable CDROM, 
> 
> This is not peculiar to BSD.  Low-level SCSI utilities in the SCSI controller
> at boot time also fail to recognize this thing as a disk drive, and even 
> on Windows it shows up as a CD-ROM.  The only way to write data to it is to
> use a windows-only driver.  And since it doesn't use an ISO-9660 file system,
> the only way to read data off of it is with a windows-only driver, too.  So
> the thing is a paperweight unless one is using Windows.  One can use 
> the windows explorer to copy files into it, and one could use it to back up
> files if they're on a BSD machine shared by Samba.  Useless for system 
> recovery,
> but perhaps barely functional as a data backup.  
> 
> Live and learn.

I just received a note from a member of the amanda-users mailing list, 
contradicting what I wrote above several weeks ago.  Apparently the Iomega REV 
drive uses a UDF filesystem and functions as a DVD-RAM at the system level, even
though it probes as a CD-ROM drive.  This person has been using one as a 
backup device on a SuSE Linux box for a while.  

Since posting the original query I finally upgraded to FreeBSD 5.4.
Unfortunately, to use it one requires read/write access to UDF filesystems, 
and BSD 5.4 has only read-only support for UDF.  

So to amend my earlier report of the uselessness of the Iomega REV drive:
 FreeBSD 4.11 can't use it because it lacks UDF support
 FreeBSD 5.x might be able to read them
 It would be possible, were there read/write support for UDF, to use the thing
 It is not limited to Windows, one needs only read/write UDF support.

Which leads to a final question:  Is there any work being done on read/write
support for UDF filesystems?  Might 6.0 get this capability?

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Answering my own question Re: Iomega REV drive, FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-24 Thread Tom Russo
I'm answering my own question on the mailing list, just to get what I found
into the archives in case anyone else has this question.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:33:47PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> I'm running FreeBSD 4.11.  I last updated from STABLE in January:
> 
> FreeBSD bogodyn.org 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 22 13:10:32 
> MST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/users2/obj/usr/src/sys/BOGODYN  i386
> 
> I just purchased an external SCSI Iomga REV 35MB removable medium drive.  
> 
[...]
> When I attach the device and camcontrol rescan all, I get this in the 
> /var/log/messages:
> 
> Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1:  Removable CD-ROM 
> SCSI-4 
> device 
[...]
> That is, the drive is detected, but as a removable CDROM, 

This is not peculiar to BSD.  Low-level SCSI utilities in the SCSI controller
at boot time also fail to recognize this thing as a disk drive, and even 
on Windows it shows up as a CD-ROM.  The only way to write data to it is to
use a windows-only driver.  And since it doesn't use an ISO-9660 file system,
the only way to read data off of it is with a windows-only driver, too.  So
the thing is a paperweight unless one is using Windows.  One can use 
the windows explorer to copy files into it, and one could use it to back up
files if they're on a BSD machine shared by Samba.  Useless for system recovery,
but perhaps barely functional as a data backup.  

Live and learn.

-- 
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Tijeras, NM  QRPL#1592 K2#398  SOC#236 AHTB#1 
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  worth the effort." -- Norton Juster
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Iomega REV drive, FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-21 Thread Tom Russo
I'm running FreeBSD 4.11.  I last updated from STABLE in January:

FreeBSD bogodyn.org 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 22 13:10:32 MST 
2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/users2/obj/usr/src/sys/BOGODYN  i386

I just purchased an external SCSI Iomga REV 35MB removable medium drive.  I 
took the chance that since it was a SCSI device it would Just Work, since that
has been my experience most of the time with SCSI devices and BSD.  It doesn't.

When I attach the device and camcontrol rescan all, I get this in the 
/var/log/messages:

Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1:  Removable CD-ROM SCSI-4 
device 
Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 14
)
Jul 21 19:22:52 bogodyn /kernel: cd1: cd present [17090880 x 2048 byte records]

That is, the drive is detected, but as a removable CDROM, not a direct access
device.  Does anyone have one of these things, and has anyone gotten it to
work?  Would updating to a more recent 4.11-STABLE be likely to get it right?
I can't find anything in any of the FreeBSD-Questions archives that mentions
this drive except for one from December, where someone asked if it worked and
never got answered on-list.

Pity to have such an expensive paperweight right now.  Can anyone help?
Does this thing work in FreeBSD 5.x?  I have been avoiding upgrading to that.
Ironically, getting the REV drive was part of a plan to start backing up my
stuff so I could wipe the drive and install 5.x on a clean disk instead of
having to deal with cleaning up 4.x mess --- I keep finding bits of cruft
from the time I upgraded from 2.x...


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Iomega REV drive

2004-12-09 Thread Damien Hull
Does anyone know if the Iomega REV drive works with FreeBSD? I would
also like to know if this thing is any good. 

If it's not I'll have to look for another backup solution. 
-- 
Damien Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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