Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-03-07 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 3/6/12 12:30 PM, krad wrote:
> 
> apart from a major bump in the version of pf.

Still the old syntax though, what I'm eager for is 10.0 with the upgrade
to 4.8 openbsd PF.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-03-06 Thread krad
On 6 March 2012 09:49, Damien Fleuriot  wrote:

>
>
> On 3/6/12 7:01 AM, Allen wrote:
> > On 2/28/2012 3:03 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> >> This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can
> answer.
> >>
> >> For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
> >> lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
> >> time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
> >
> > I don't think it's a good idea to let what you see on a mailing list be
> > your end all be all of what you use... This isn't an insult or anything,
> > but I've seen some pretty damn stupid people who try to install stuff
> > into Swap And that isn't even close to the stupidest thing I've ever
> > seen on a list. Trust me, the best way to figure out of you personally
> > would benefit from upgrading, is doing it yourself.
> >
>
> I get your point, however, reports of NICs malfunctionning or stuff like
> that are pretty distressing when running frontend firewall boxes.
>
> Seeing 9.0 doesn't bring much to the table, imo, in terms of firewalling
> and CARP novelty, I'm probably going to stick with 8.3 for some time :)
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apart from a major bump in the version of pf.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-03-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 3/6/12 7:01 AM, Allen wrote:
> On 2/28/2012 3:03 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
>> This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.
>>
>> For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
>> lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
>> time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
> 
> I don't think it's a good idea to let what you see on a mailing list be
> your end all be all of what you use... This isn't an insult or anything,
> but I've seen some pretty damn stupid people who try to install stuff
> into Swap And that isn't even close to the stupidest thing I've ever
> seen on a list. Trust me, the best way to figure out of you personally
> would benefit from upgrading, is doing it yourself.
> 

I get your point, however, reports of NICs malfunctionning or stuff like
that are pretty distressing when running frontend firewall boxes.

Seeing 9.0 doesn't bring much to the table, imo, in terms of firewalling
and CARP novelty, I'm probably going to stick with 8.3 for some time :)

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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-03-05 Thread Allen
On 2/28/2012 3:03 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.
> 
> For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
> lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
> time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.

I don't think it's a good idea to let what you see on a mailing list be
your end all be all of what you use... This isn't an insult or anything,
but I've seen some pretty damn stupid people who try to install stuff
into Swap And that isn't even close to the stupidest thing I've ever
seen on a list. Trust me, the best way to figure out of you personally
would benefit from upgrading, is doing it yourself.

I use and read these lists, and I admit, sometimes, it's for
entertainment value, but again, I've also received more than my share of
help from people who DO know WTF they're doing.

It doesn't cost you more than a CD or DVD, so why not just download 9
and try it out? I have every version of FreeBSD I've ever downloaded, or
paid for, starting with 4.0 back in 2000 or so, and I am now running 9.0
on my main FreeBSD machine, and PC-BSD 8.2 on a Desktop, and PC-BSD 9 on
my Laptop. I've had NO issues with any of them.

So for whatever it's worth to you; I am using FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, and I
like it.

-Allen
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Feb 28, 2012 4:13 AM, "Erich Dollansky" 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even
branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here
runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.
>
> But for technical reasons, I have left one machine on 7 after the upgrade
from 6 to 8 failed. It is a very old machine and some hardware support got
dropped.
>
> Erich
>
> On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:03:45 Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> >
> > On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote:
> > >> uname -a
> > > FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
> > > 15:23:56 CST 2011
> > > r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
 i386
> > >
> > > I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.
> > >
> > >
> > > Any suggestion is appreciated!
> > >
> >
> > This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can
answer.
> >
> > For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
> > lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
> > time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
> >
> > You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether
> > they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28)
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10.0-CURRENT works pretty good for me, i'm running it on an intel 32
machine and an amd64 machine. i have some servers running 7, i totally
skipped 8 and tried 9 for a couple of months. but i wanted better wireless
hardware support so i started pulling cvs head.

For kicks i'm merging updated gnu and gpl software (that's been frozen
since GPLv3 hit) into 10 src (ie /usr/src/gnu and /usr/src/contrib) just to
see what kind of trouble it will cause.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:52:32 -0800 (PST),
sw2wolf  a écrit :

Hello,

> I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.

If it works don't break it :)

I don't use 9.0 on production server, but as far I can see on my
desktops (at home and at work) that works fine (with USF2 journal
and ZFS). This is the first step for me.

Regards.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread RW
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:52:24 +0100
Damien Fleuriot wrote:

> On 2/28/12 2:14 PM, Stas Verberkt wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> >> I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the
> >> even branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the
> >> machine here runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will
> >> arrive at the scene.
> >>
> > Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an
> > uneven branch?
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Stas Verberkt
> > 
> 
> To be honest, there shouldn't be.
> 
> There's an old saying that goes along the lines of "uneven are
> unstable/experimental" but recent comments on the ML have claimed
> otherwise.

That's a Linux thing surely. I've never seen it claimed for FreeBSD.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/02/2012 13:14, Stas Verberkt wrote:
> Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven
> branch?

No.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/28/12 2:14 PM, Stas Verberkt wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>> I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even 
>> branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here 
>> runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.
>>
> Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven
> branch?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Stas Verberkt
> 

To be honest, there shouldn't be.

There's an old saying that goes along the lines of "uneven are
unstable/experimental" but recent comments on the ML have claimed otherwise.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Stas Verberkt
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even 
> branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here 
> runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.
> 
Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven
branch?

Kind regards,

Stas Verberkt



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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even branches 
until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here runs 8.3 and 
will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.

But for technical reasons, I have left one machine on 7 after the upgrade from 
6 to 8 failed. It is a very old machine and some hardware support got dropped.

Erich

On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:03:45 Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> 
> On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote:
> >> uname -a
> > FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
> > 15:23:56 CST 2011
> > r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
> > 
> > I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.
> > 
> > 
> > Any suggestion is appreciated!
> > 
> 
> This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.
> 
> For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
> lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
> time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
> 
> You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether
> they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28)
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote:
>> uname -a
> FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
> 15:23:56 CST 2011
> r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
> 
> I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.
> 
> 
> Any suggestion is appreciated!
> 

This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.

For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.

You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether
they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28)
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Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-27 Thread sw2wolf
>uname -a
FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
15:23:56 CST 2011
r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.


Any suggestion is appreciated!

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