Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On 5/14/06, Tom Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone, I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? I just found out about xrdp: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/ It's not ported yet, though. FWIW, xrdp compiles with minor mods to the Makefiles (remove all references to -ldl). After install it appears to require a VNC server running on localhost:5910. After pointing krfb to listen on 5910, I was able to connect to my FreeBSD box using mstsc.exe from a Windows XP box. There's hope that it's a relatively easy port. HTH, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
On 5/14/06, Tom Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone, I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? I just found out about xrdp: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/ It's not ported yet, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
On Sun, 14 May 2006 00:01:02 +0100 Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have a Win2k3 server and I can't tell you how many times I've > nearly kicked it to pieces because we used the TWO remote sessions > and couldn't log in you should still be able to connect to the console via RDP (-console in mstsc or -0 in rdesktop). or setup expiry /idle timers for sessions. or just not use it ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Semi-technical discussion of Remote Access (was "Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?")
Garrett Cooper wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See <http://www.nomachine.com/> for a licensed version and <http://freenx.berlios.de/> for a GNU opensource version. So if you really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would look into this solution. The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it shot down. But he can certainly try. Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive, and get shot down again. And most times we never hear from the OP again with a followup. Ted True... I was just offering a suggestion, just in case. I figured that if the boss doesn't like Unix (which it seems he probably doesn't) though-like you said, so he won't support this. -Garrett I didn't really look into the technical details behind NoMachineNX until now, but if anyone considers writing a plugin for RDP to work with NoMachineNX, they might as well write a separate server daemon for RDP since it would be more fruitful timewise to do that. Considering that the NoMachineNX protocol is so intertwined with X11 and SSH (I stress the later as opposed to the former), the minuses to writing a plugin to allow a Windows RDP client to connect to a plugin enabled NoMachineNX server are that maintaining a connection would require an SSH tunnel to be running with the proper port(s) being forwarded to the server, and that would lead to unnecessary encryption to between the client <-> server since Windows RDP has built in encryption to prevent data from being sent clear-text across a network (whereas straight VNC or non-forwarded-via-SSH X11 does not). Given the fact that an SSH connection would have to be open would eliminate the Windows crowd that "Just Likes Stuff to Work on Command With Minimal Effort", and the solution would be slower and more CPU intensive, which would make such a scheme less feasible in a corporate environment since the move from a Windows to a Unix solution is usually to make things run more stable and have the solution run much longer than it would in a Windows environment. Just a semi-technical discussion of the original topic for anyone else that may consider porting Windows RDP to NoMachineNX to convince others to choose an alternate path, just to save time. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See <http://www.nomachine.com/> for a licensed version and <http://freenx.berlios.de/> for a GNU opensource version. So if you really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would look into this solution. The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it shot down. But he can certainly try. Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive, and get shot down again. And most times we never hear from the OP again with a followup. Ted True... I was just offering a suggestion, just in case. I figured that if the boss doesn't like Unix (which it seems he probably doesn't) though-like you said, so he won't support this. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper >Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts >Microsoft RDP connections? > > > However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol >to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See ><http://www.nomachine.com/> for a licensed version and ><http://freenx.berlios.de/> for a GNU opensource version. So if you >really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would >look into this solution. The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it shot down. But he can certainly try. Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive, and get shot down again. And most times we never hear from the OP again with a followup. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Norris Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:41 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections? Hello everyone, I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? Hell-lo! Clue phone ringing! Your boss doesen't want you to use any other solution than Windows, get the picture? If such a thing as an RDP<->XWindows conversion daemon existed, your boss would find some other nit picky thing that he would hold up as a deal-breaker. Then if that was fixed he would find some other thing. And on and on and on. What you need to do is recognize that the place your working at is hopelessly borked as long as your boss is working there, and just keep your head down and look for a better job somewhere else. If you put the same effort looking for a better place to work as your putting into trying to convince your boss to do something he's simply afraid of doing, you would surely find one. People like your boss are only convinced by evolutionary changes. What will happen one of these days is a problem will come up that cannot be fixed by the old Microsoft standbys, and your boss will be fired for incompetence. Then when he goes to find another job everyone will be asking him if he has any Linux experience, and at that time he will suddenly start thinking it might be a good idea to start looking into this yoo-niks thing. Ted No solution for the RDP protocol exists on Unix as its a proprietary protocol that I think would be difficult to implement given X11's setup on Unix. However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See <http://www.nomachine.com/> for a licensed version and <http://freenx.berlios.de/> for a GNU opensource version. So if you really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would look into this solution. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Norris >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:41 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft >RDP connections? > > >Hello everyone, > >I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD >system as file >server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP >client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his >whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? > Hell-lo! Clue phone ringing! Your boss doesen't want you to use any other solution than Windows, get the picture? If such a thing as an RDP<->XWindows conversion daemon existed, your boss would find some other nit picky thing that he would hold up as a deal-breaker. Then if that was fixed he would find some other thing. And on and on and on. What you need to do is recognize that the place your working at is hopelessly borked as long as your boss is working there, and just keep your head down and look for a better job somewhere else. If you put the same effort looking for a better place to work as your putting into trying to convince your boss to do something he's simply afraid of doing, you would surely find one. People like your boss are only convinced by evolutionary changes. What will happen one of these days is a problem will come up that cannot be fixed by the old Microsoft standbys, and your boss will be fired for incompetence. Then when he goes to find another job everyone will be asking him if he has any Linux experience, and at that time he will suddenly start thinking it might be a good idea to start looking into this yoo-niks thing. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
On Sat, 13 May 2006 18:40:55 -0400 Tom Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as > file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's > RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine > at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP > connections? Since he wants RDP, I doubt it would go by, but you may want to check out xming. I use that for connecting to my FBSD workstation at work from my windows workstation when I do not have my FBSD laptop with me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
On May 13, 2006, at 11:40 pm, Tom Norris wrote: I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? I think your boss is missing the point slightly ... he hasn't got an MCSE has he? ;) I'm 99% sure the only RDP servers come with windoze. Why don't you install KDE on your file server (ick) and install another windows box under your desk permanently VNC'd into it. Then he can RDP to that and he will never know the difference :) We have a Win2k3 server and I can't tell you how many times I've nearly kicked it to pieces because we used the TWO remote sessions and couldn't log in. Once, we used up both RDP sessions, the VNC server crashed, and when I plugged the mouse and keyboard in it wouldn't respond (bloody PS2!!!) I lost my rag and yanked the power cord. On a less it's-late-and-I'm-feeling-sarcastic note, perhaps you could just set the server up to e-mail him the output of essential stats, like du -h. I still don't see why he feels the need to monitor the file server though. Surely that's your job! Just my opinionated twopence... Ashley ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
Jonathan Horne wrote: WOW!! what an incredibly closed minded person you boss must be! i wonder what he thinks he will do, if he *could* get an rdp session to a freebsd box? (btw, the answer is no, he cannot have a port 3389 terminal services session to a freebsd box... but there are a million other things, from ssh, to webmin that can be used to achieve the same thing and more, for a lot less cash). jonathan Yeah, tell me about it :\ I'lll run the webmin idea by him on Monday though. Thanks :) -- Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
On Saturday 13 May 2006 17:40, Tom Norris wrote: > Hello everyone, > He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP > client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his > whim. ... > > > > Thanks, > Tom Norris WOW!! what an incredibly closed minded person you boss must be! i wonder what he thinks he will do, if he *could* get an rdp session to a freebsd box? (btw, the answer is no, he cannot have a port 3389 terminal services session to a freebsd box... but there are a million other things, from ssh, to webmin that can be used to achieve the same thing and more, for a lot less cash). jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?
Hello everyone, I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file server. He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his whim. Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections? Thanks, Tom Norris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"