Re: Just want to ask
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:36:00 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: > On 29 June 2010 19:18, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman > > wrote: > >> > >> Whether or not he agrees with them is a matter of philosophical > >> interest only, so long as he keeps to the terms. > > > > Agree TO them, not agree WITH them. > > ___ > > As I remember, agree _to_ is valid only when followed by a verb > infinitive (which is indeed where the `to' comes from); To can be part of an infinitive, but in this case it's a preposition. "Agree to them" and "agree with them" have different meanings: roughly comply and concur. I presume he was trying to precis the answer, rather than correct the grammar. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
> From utis...@gmail.com Sat Jul 3 09:36:02 2010 > From: Chris Rees > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:36:00 +0100 > Subject: Re: Just want to ask > To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" > Cc: Matthew Seaman , > "questi...@freebsd.org" , > "esra_peranginan...@yahoo.com" , > Robert Bonomi > > On 29 June 2010 19:18, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman > > wrote: > >> > >> Whether or not he agrees with them is a matter of philosophical interest > >> only, so long as he keeps to the terms. > > > > Agree TO them, not agree WITH them. > > ___ > > As I remember, agree _to_ is valid only when followed by a verb > infinitive (which is indeed where the `to' comes from); False to fact. To 'agree to' a _thing_, means you will comply with the permissions, terms, limitations, restrictions, etc. that that 'thing' specifies -- e.g., "I agree to the terms of your offer." Note, the 'to' above, is a preposition, _not_ part of an infinitive verb. :) To 'agree with' something is merely a satement of 'emotional viewpoint', and is not binding in any way. To 'agree to' something is a binding (to whatever degree) commitment to comply with the constraints that that 'something' lays out. > > I agree to abide by these terms. > > -- and -- > > I agree with these terms. > > Chris > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
On 29 June 2010 19:18, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> >> Whether or not he agrees with them is a matter of philosophical interest >> only, so long as he keeps to the terms. > > Agree TO them, not agree WITH them. > ___ As I remember, agree _to_ is valid only when followed by a verb infinitive (which is indeed where the `to' comes from); I agree to abide by these terms. -- and -- I agree with these terms. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
On 29 June 2010 12:38, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jun 29 06:13:19 2010 >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:36:09 -0700 (PDT) >> From: esra perangin angin >> To: questi...@freebsd.org >> Cc: >> Subject: Just want to ask >> >> Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer=A0to FreeBSD, =0AIs=A0FreeBSD Completely Free = >> for USE? > > NO. > > You have to read, *understand*, and agree to the license terms. > > This isn't the GPL. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Whether or not he agrees with them is a matter of philosophical interest > only, so long as he keeps to the terms. Agree TO them, not agree WITH them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/06/2010 17:38:46, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jun 29 06:13:19 2010 >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:36:09 -0700 (PDT) >> From: esra perangin angin >> To: questi...@freebsd.org >> Cc: >> Subject: Just want to ask >> >> Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer=A0to FreeBSD, =0AIs=A0FreeBSD Completely Free = >> for USE? > > NO. > > You have to read, *understand*, and agree to the license terms. There is no such stipulation. He only has to abide by the copyright terms -- which is obviously a lot easier to do if he can read and understand them, but not too hard even if he can't. Whether or not he agrees with them is a matter of philosophical interest only, so long as he keeps to the terms. Not that the FreeBSD license has anything in it that would be thought objectionable by any reasonable person. Basically it boils down to: do what you want with this, so long as you keep the license text with any derived works and so long as you credit the original authors with creating it; Oh, and don't try to sue FreeBSD if it all goes horribly wrong. Practically speaking the answer to the OP's original question is "Yes. You can use this freely." Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwqN9YACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzhmgCfTZ6MjhrquoUZQPeMDTmHDKY6 XjkAn2Y6h8rDGD7J5A1nahDH4Z65inwe =jQLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jun 29 06:13:19 2010 > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:36:09 -0700 (PDT) > From: esra perangin angin > To: questi...@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Just want to ask > > Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer=A0to FreeBSD, =0AIs=A0FreeBSD Completely Free = > for USE? NO. You have to read, *understand*, and agree to the license terms. > =0AThanks =0A=A0=0A=0A=0AEsra Peran= > ginangin=A0 CCNA=0Awww.rsamedan.org=0ACell Phone : +62 812 6384 6907=0A=A0= > =0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0Chief Accountant=0AMedan Adventist Hosp= > ital=0AJl. Gatot Subroto Km 4.5 Medan - Indonesia=0A20118=0A=0A=0A ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
Absolutely, copyleft is copyright by another name! Chris Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote. There's a bug report on it! On 29 Jun 2010 15:51, "Alejandro Imass" wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:36 AM, esra perangin angin wrote: > Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer to FreeBSD, > Is FreeBSD Completely Free for USE? Is actually even _free-er_ than any GNU-based system > Thanks > > > > Esra Peranginangin CCNA > www.rsamedan.org > Cel... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:36 AM, esra perangin angin wrote: > Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer to FreeBSD, > Is FreeBSD Completely Free for USE? Is actually even _free-er_ than any GNU-based system > Thanks > > > > Esra Peranginangin CCNA > www.rsamedan.org > Cell Phone : +62 812 6384 6907 > > > > > > > Chief Accountant > Medan Adventist Hospital > Jl. Gatot Subroto Km 4.5 Medan - Indonesia > 20118 > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Just want to ask
On 29 June 2010 07:36, esra perangin angin wrote: > Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer to FreeBSD, > Is FreeBSD Completely Free for USE? > Thanks > Free for use, free for distribution, free for editing and changing. Read http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Just want to ask
Hello FreeBSD, i'm new comer to FreeBSD, Is FreeBSD Completely Free for USE? Thanks Esra Peranginangin CCNA www.rsamedan.org Cell Phone : +62 812 6384 6907 Chief Accountant Medan Adventist Hospital Jl. Gatot Subroto Km 4.5 Medan - Indonesia 20118 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
