KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Stankevitz

Installation instructions for GNOME and KDE:
 http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1
 http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php

GNOME:
 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2, make install clean
 2. Add 'gnome_enable=YES' to rc.conf

KDE:
 1. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, make install clean
 2. [none listed]

Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2?

Thank you,

Chris




  
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Re: KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT), Chris Stankevitz 
chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2?

I think KDE also relies on DBUS and HAL (which need to be installed
and enabled via /etc/rc.conf), and activating the KDE login manager
for X (kdm) requires an entry in /etc/ttys similar to the one that
is suggested for Gnome; if it's not desired, use startkde (I think
it is the correct name, or startkde4 maybe) in ~/.xinitrc or in
~/.xsession respectively.

And a general note: The Step 2 does not belong to the installation,
it already belongs to configuration (i. e. enabling the just installed
piece of software).



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Re: KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Stankevitz
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 I think KDE also relies on DBUS and HAL

Ok

 and activating the KDE login manager
 for X (kdm) requires an entry in /etc/ttys similar to the
 one that is suggested for Gnome;

GNOME installation docs suggest adding gnome_enable=YES to rc.conf.  There is 
no suggestion regarding /etc/ttys.

 (I think it is the correct name, or startkde4 maybe)

Ok


With respect from someone who wants to get it right and not be dependent on 
the mailing list, I have a question:

The KDE installation page make does not describe:
- rc.conf entries, if any
- tty settings, if any
- KDM start procedures, if any
- the name of the .xinitrc command to start KDE, if any

Does this mean:
a) KDE setup is obvious and I am dumb for not knowing
b) I didn't read the man page well enough
c) KDE is meant for power users, I should stick with GNOME.
d) [your idea here]

 And a general note: The Step 2 does not belong to the
 installation,
 it already belongs to configuration (i. e. enabling the
 just installed
 piece of software).

I see.  Maybe

e) I'm looking in the wrong place.  Read the docs on KDE configuration not 
KDE installation.

Thank you all for helping me these last few days,

Chris


  
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Re: KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Stankevitz
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote:
 KDE:
  1. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, make install clean
  2. [none listed]
 
 Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2?

2. Add these lines to ~/.xinitrc:
PATH=/usr/local/kde4/bin:$PATH
export PATH
startkde4

3. Use 'startx' to launch KDE.

Chris


  
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Re: KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@yahoo.comwrote:

 --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
  I think KDE also relies on DBUS and HAL

 Ok

  and activating the KDE login manager
  for X (kdm) requires an entry in /etc/ttys similar to the
  one that is suggested for Gnome;

 GNOME installation docs suggest adding gnome_enable=YES to rc.conf.
  There is no suggestion regarding /etc/ttys.

  (I think it is the correct name, or startkde4 maybe)

 Ok


 With respect from someone who wants to get it right and not be dependent
 on the mailing list, I have a question:

 The KDE installation page make does not describe:
 - rc.conf entries, if any
 - tty settings, if any
 - KDM start procedures, if any
 - the name of the .xinitrc command to start KDE, if any

 Does this mean:
 a) KDE setup is obvious and I am dumb for not knowing
 b) I didn't read the man page well enough
 c) KDE is meant for power users, I should stick with GNOME.
 d) [your idea here]

  And a general note: The Step 2 does not belong to the
  installation,
  it already belongs to configuration (i. e. enabling the
  just installed
  piece of software).

 I see.  Maybe

 e) I'm looking in the wrong place.  Read the docs on KDE configuration
 not KDE installation.

 Thank you all for helping me these last few days,


What you should be doing is following the freebsd handbook, it's
specifically written for these types of issues.

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

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Re: KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Carl Johnson
Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com writes:

 Installation instructions for GNOME and KDE:
  http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q1
  http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php

 GNOME:
  1. cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2, make install clean
  2. Add 'gnome_enable=YES' to rc.conf

 KDE:
  1. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4, make install clean
  2. [none listed]

 Q: Does KDE installation have a Step 2?

Others have mentioned ways of enabling KDE4, but I just added the
following two lines to /etc/rc.conf:
  local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d
  kdm4_enable=YES

Or you can omit the local_startup line if you do a:
  ln -s /usr/local/kde4/etc/rc.d/kde4 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/

The local_startup wouldn't be necessary if the startup script were put
in /usr/local/etc/rc.d where it should be.
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Re: KDE post-install steps

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Stankevitz
--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
 What you should be doing is following the freebsd handbook,
 it's specifically written for these types of issues.
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

Adam,

Thank you.  I started out with the handbook but before I reached section 
5.7.2.2, wandered to the FreeBSD Projects: GNOME page, then to FreeBSD 
Projects: KDE.  I should have headed back to the handbook.

Thank you,

Chris


  
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